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Some code[edit]

I saw, late, that you've been doing a few trial runs on the bot vis-a-vis the featured content importer for the Signpost. Me and Dispenser did some work on this problem as well but we have trouble with the script when it comes to dealing with encoding. Still, the source code may be of use to you. Before checking your bots on a whim I wasn't aware you were actively working on this problem in parallel!

I spent several hours last week downloading and (mostly) setting up pywikibot. ResMar 04:22, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

To decline or not that is the question[edit]

Hi, I've been reviewing AFCs I took your advise and looked for articles that are obviously not notable. An observation. I notice one person keeps leaving comments rather than making a decision to decline articles. I've found over 30 such entries. I think the person has enough experience since they joined in 2012 to review well. Most time authors do not correct their articles, maybe they didn't receive the comment? It seems a waste of time having to come behind a reviewer, read the article, especially when the comment says to research the citations. Just want to make sure the AFC pending articles doesn't backlog. Here is an example..

Thank you. Adyoo3 (talk) 01:14, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Adyoo3, if reviewers don't want to make a definite decision about accepting or declining an article (for instance, if they're unsure about the decision, or someone with the right permissions is needed to create a page over a redirect or something), they will often leave a comment instead. I don't really see a problem with that; I've done it a few times myself. The comments left in this way are helpful to both the author of the draft as well as to future reviewers. The helper script has an option to notify drafts' authors when you're leaving a comment, and it looks like this option was used in the case you pointed to. TL;DR: no problem. APerson (talk!) 18:47, 15 May 2015 (UTC)


Removal from AfC Participants[edit] I'm very sorry for having to do this, but I'm afraid you don't yet seem to have a good grasp of policy or the ability to communicate well with newcomers. AfC is a very important process for the English language Wikipedia, and I have received several complaints of confusing and inaccurate comments left on drafts by you. I really appreciate your contributions, but perhaps it is best for you to come back when you are more experienced and have gotten more of your own drafts through AfC as well. Again, I apologize, and please come back in the future, but you do not seem to have the necessary experience and grasp of Wikipedia policy at this time. Thank you for your understanding. Winner 42 Talk to me! 17:58, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure exactly why I am denied reviewing articles, how many complains did I get. I am aware of the policies. I have had interactions with authors that have been fruitful. I have left comments with out declining articles. I took the advice of peers about finding AFC pending articles that can be declined right away. I've approve good articles. I have worked hard on submitting my own articles. Am I suppose to comment on submissions before making a choice to accept or decline? If I can't review, is it okay for me to help authors by editing their articles and advising them? I've real world experience as a writer on a newspaper, about 1000 edits and nearly 6 months of edits, English is my first language. I've asked for someone to come behind me to aid in my decisions. Is it possible I get a mentor? Can I be on probation? Did I review too many articles a day. I admit I am excited to help with Wilipedia, perhaps too enthusiastic

Adyoo3 (talk) 20:33, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Adyoo3, it looks like you ran into one of the most important things to notice about Articles for Creation: when reviewers review drafts, they're shaping the very first experience many people have with Wikipedia. So, it's extremely important that reviewers are there to help new editors as much as possible, to encourage new editors to come back and contribute more to Wikipedia.
The theme of Winner 42's comments about your reviewing was communication. Winner 42 didn't feel like you were adequately communicating with the authors of drafts you reviewed. Unfortunately, I have to say that I agree; at press time, I count six queries from draft authors that you haven't responded to. It's pretty important to respond to requests for advice on how to improve drafts you decline.
To go back to those complaints about your reviews, I can spot one complaint on Winner 42's talk page about your reviewing. On the draft in question, you left a comment that sounds a bit confusing. I'm guessing that once Winner 42 saw what he or she considered a pattern of these sorts of comments, you got taken off the review list.
Winner 42 said to come back when you are more experienced and have gotten more of your own drafts through AfC as well. I agree that getting some more drafts through the process shows that you have knowledge of the process and can be trusted to review some more drafts. Regarding mentorship, I'm of the opinion that you should probably get more experience with the process through ways other than reviewing (e.g. helping new authors with their articles or, as I said before, getting more articles through the process). No hard feelings at all! APerson (talk!) 19:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK nom notice[edit]

Hi, can I please opt out of being spam noticed for every single DYK nom? I've just removed 3 kb of messages from your bot. I don't see the point it in in all honesty, everytime somebody noms with a name linked it pings people anyway.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:21, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Dr. Blofeld, as indicated on my bot's user page, it's exclusion compliant. So, all you have to do is edit the {{bots}} transclusion on your talkpage so that it reads {{bots|deny=Theo's Little Bot,APersonBot}} instead of {{bots|deny=Theo's Little Bot}}. APerson (talk!) 23:46, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Future Reviewer[edit]

I did answer the queries on the authors talk pages. Would it be okay if I help with AFC pending articles and ask you for advice? Thank you.Adyoo3 (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

New layout[edit]

I have made some changes to reduce the visual impact of the relist template on AfD pages and AfD log pages. The plan is to use a boxed format, to avoid the lines going all the way across the page as the previous version did and to encapsulate it on the page, again, avoiding the layout with lines. I would really like to try it out for awhile with this format, so reverting the recent change that added back the lines. North America1000 17:12, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Cool, no problem if you'd like to try it out for some time. Personally, I prefer the air version without side borders because it resembles some <hr>'s around the text, but again, I agree with reducing the visual impact of the template. APerson (talk!) 18:20, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
A discussion is occurring at Template talk:Relist#New layout that involves changes to the template. (It was reverted to a previous version other than the one I created and the one that you created). North America1000 22:24, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification! APerson (talk!) 18:13, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian states[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian states. Legobot (talk) 00:03, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Please comment on Template talk:H:IPA[edit]

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Template talk:H:IPA. Legobot (talk) 00:03, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

FC Importer[edit]

Hey APerson, I wanted to ask about the status of your FC importer script. In particular I wanted to know if this is still something you are working on, or something you have currently on the backburner, or something that you're no longer interested in (no shame in it—really). I ask because I feel that it's a pretty important piece of tech (cuts down on perhaps 30 mins/week of manual labor) that I want to keep track of the progress on. ResMar 05:38, 28 May 2015 (UTC)