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DYK for Forest Grove Fire and Rescue[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:52, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks and a Question[edit]

Aboutmovies, Lately I've seen you rating various WP:BIOGRAPHY articles I've been working on. Thank you, I appreciate this! I'm a bit curious, I'm currently working on Amadeus IV, Count of Savoy. He's rated Stub right now, but when I'm finished, I hope to at least have him up to Start. What's the best way to get an article re-rated? Is there a more formal method to seek the rating of a page, or is using the talk infobox the best way? Thanks again! 1bandsaw (talk) 23:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

There is a formal process, list it here. Aboutmovies (talk) 18:37, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll post him there when I've finished my current work. 1bandsaw (talk) 00:24, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Can you the article "Alexander Hannett" again?[edit]

The article Alexander Hannett has added additional information from before. It was reviewed before, but since them, a good amount of information has been added. I saw that you reviewed it before.

I would appreciate it.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexhannett (talkcontribs) 15:40, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

In looking at it, it is still a C class article. It went from a low C to a high C with the additions, but not quite at B. ITems that need to be addressed: newspaper titles are italicized; we do not use ® in articles; the infobox does not match the text as to where he was born; and identical refs should not be listed separately, but instead named (see Thomas O. Bales Jr. for how it would look). Aboutmovies (talk) 18:43, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

My bio[edit]

My bio, John Krige, contains several factual errors (e.g. regarding my nationality, my research etc). I have tried to edit it online without success. Please advise — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkrige (talkcontribs) 10:01, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I've made some changes, are those correct? Is there anything else? Aboutmovies (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for 400 SW Sixth Avenue[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 04:32, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Selected Oregon biography[edit]

My compliments for your work updating components of the Oregon Portal, but please compare Portal:Oregon/Selected biography/56 with Portal:Oregon/Selected biography/52, which as of this writing are spotlighting the same article. I assume this was unintentional. SJ Morg (talk) 07:54, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Paul G. Risser[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Paul G. Risser at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:41, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Paul G. Risser[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 15:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Lugansk fascist Republic[edit]

I don't think my edits were vandalism. The Lugansk and Donetsk "republics" are a fiction and the leaders behind are fascists, as the events with Malaysia Airlines flight 17 show.

Undoing Edits[edit]

Hi There

I was at the meeting held by Concordia University School of Law where this news was announced. I am a 1L that will now be transferring because of this (to Univ. of Idaho SoL). Please stop undoing my edits.

The ABA does not post releases about denials. Case in point - LMU Duncan SoL. It was denied accreditation. Try and find a press release on the ABA site announcing the denial - you won't find one (because they do not issue them). LMU Duncan chose to sue (unsuccessfully) the ABA over the denial. This lawsuit is the only thing that brought LMU's denial into the public domain. You won't ever find a press release on the ABA site about this ever - and Concordia is trying to sweep this under the rug so as to prevent students in their incoming class from learning the news while they have enough time to potentially transfer to an accredited institution.

Please take this into consideration. This is hot off the presses so it is a bit premature to expect to find much in the media yet - but you will. Concordia is trying to suppress the news but they will not be able to. Call around. Call your alma mater Willamette's admissions office - I'd bet they know about it because they are probably fielding calls from CU SoL students looking to transfer. Call Carol Cochran at Seattle U. SoL - I KNOW she is aware of it because several of my cohort are exploring transferring to Seattle U SoL and have spoken with her directly. In fact, call CU's SoL admissions office and ask them. They are going to great lengths to keep this quiet, but their admissions people ARE REQUIRED to tell you if you ask. If they do not the ABA would be very interested to know that. They will surely sugar coat with some blather about appealing the decision (they have 30 days) but this is not ethical. They are milking this 30 day window in order to hopefully run the clock out on the incoming class being able to transfer.

I will not engage in a tit for tat edit and undo-edit game. This is relevant information that needs to be out there. If you chose to enforce a narrow interpretation of what a reliable source is then fine - you win. But what is more credible than a CU SoL student that was at the meeting they held announcing this?


Snuffleupagus14 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snuffleupagus14 (talkcontribs) 21:34, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Die Rhöner Säuwäntzt[edit]

Hallo Aboutmovies - I am glad about the interest in the article and the various contributions. I have added the assessement for WikiProject Germany. The article developmenet has just started, but I believe the article is neither "quite incomplete" nor does it "lack adequate reliable sources". Gerda helped me with some of the English wording and she went over the structure as well. I havent found English speaking sources so far, but thats not a reason to underassess the quality. Its more complete and up to date as the german article, which formed the base. I would be happy if you thought over your assessement respectively gave me an indication what is to be delivered. Best regards Serten (talk) 06:34, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

That is truely a start class article. Look at a few FA class articles such as Insane Clown Posse, R.E.M., and Metallica for examples of what a fully developed article should look like about a band/musical group. And frankly, if there are not enough English sources, then that actually would be a reason, as we judge the completeness based upon the topic, not the sources available in a certain language. Sort of like we don't promote one paragraph articles on ancient Romans to FA just because it is as complete as it can get. Aboutmovies (talk) 07:44, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
I would assess it a B at least. FA is to be ruled out completely since the sources are far from scientific. Shades of grey ;) Serten (talk) 07:58, 3 August 2014 (UTC)


Hi, This is just to inform you that Dianna Gernatt Saraf, an article that you rated, has been nominated by another editor for deletion. Daniellagreen (talk) (cont) 17:56, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Using/Purchasing Photo[edit]


I work at an ad agency and we have a client that makes solar racking. I love the photo you have of the solar panels in the Hillsboro Intermodal Transit Facility. We would like to use this in one of our ads but we cannot put any accreditation on the ad.

Could we use this photo with no accreditation, or could we purchase this photo from you?

Let me know if you have any questions.


Brockmonahan (talk) 19:07, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Award 4 U[edit]

awarded to Aboutmovies for being a member of a very exclusive Wikipedia club
Vjmlhds (talk) 00:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

C.T. Loo review[edit]

Thanks for taking the time and care to review C.T. Loo, but I'm wondering if a "C" isn't low. The C criteria mention:

  • "still missing important content or contains much irrelevant material." I'd be happy to hear what might be missing.
  • the article should have "some references to reliable sources." This shouldn't be a problem, since there are monographs and articles, but if you think there could be others, I'd be happy to hear what they might possibly be.
  • "may still have significant problems or require substantial cleanup."

Reading the "B" criteria, the article seems to meet or surpass them.

Cheers and thanks in any case, ch (talk) 03:22, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

It is a very high C to me, and borderline B. But, there are a few issues. 1) the lede is too short for the length of the article; 2) you are missing punctuation at the end of several sentences; 3) there are a few footnote issues (1st one has a space between the period and the cite; first multi-cite sentence the lower numbered one needs to first; why cite the 1st sentence of the early life section twice to the same source?); 4) there should be no external links in the body; 5) the part on his death should be more robust, as you do not even have the date of death listed there or cause of death or place of internment/cremated; and 6) "orphaned of both parents" is redundant, as orphaned covers it is both parents (and there are other examples where a good copy edit is needed). Again, a very nice article and borderline B, but few too many minor issues for me to make it B. On the plus side, if you address only a couple of these issues and you would be at B, and if you address all of them (plus add an infobox) then I think you would be at GA. Aboutmovies (talk) 03:50, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Paul Mendelson[edit]

Hi, do you know there's another Paul Mendelson? He's also a writer. More info here: — Preceding unsigned comment added by VanTransit (talkcontribs) 20:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

A request[edit]

Hello Aboutmovies,

By now it should be quite obvious to you that I'm a novice at editing on Wikipedia. I was planning on continuing to expand on some of the Oregon history articles, but I don't wish to step on anyone's toes while doing so. To help avoid causing any ill feelings in the community, could I possibly seek your input on what I am working on in the future? Thanks. Voltaire's Vaquero (talk) 21:15, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Favorite (steamboat)[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Legacy Mount Hood Medical Center[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:03, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Aboutmovies[edit]

Thanks for extending your warm welcome on my entry to Wikipedia.

Of course, I would be having some teething issues as I am learning. I would like to seek help of administrators like you, whenever required.

Regards, Dsachdeva123 (talk) 05:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Eva (sternwheeler)[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Drain-Coos Bay stage line[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:03, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Telegraph (sternwheeler 1914)[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:04, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Hooky hooks[edit]

Although Mtsmallwood did most of the work, I'm sure you'll agree, I have to congratulate you on coming up with such obviously successful hooks for the DYKs of Favorite (steamboat) and Eva (sternwheeler). Both received around 6,000 page views (give or take), even though they were not the lead entries in DYK! SJ Morg (talk) 09:36, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Wolverine (motor vessel)[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 22:39, 27 August 2014 (UTC) 12:03, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Your resent edit to Dina Rae[edit]

Thank you for your edit; I really appreciate the helping hand; just thought I'd be grateful and tell you :) Bling$Bling$Blang$Blang$ (talk) 15:34, 28 August 2014 (UTC)

Feminist+Queer Art Wikipedia Edit-a-thon: Saturday, September 13, Portland, Oregon[edit]


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Seek Page deletion understanding and guidance[edit]

Hi Aboutmovies.

I am new to Wikipedia and I created a page as under;

If you recall, you made some edits to the same page and offered your expert advice to help the new comers understand the standards of Wikipedia.

If you see, as under, the page is now deleted citing the reasons of promotional content.

4 September 2014 RHaworth (talk | contribs) deleted page Great Lakes Institute of Management (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

The content written by me was pretty basic without any promotional intent and it was a basic information.

There are management colleges which have a lot of promotional content and still exists in Wikipedia.

I would like to seek your guidance and support as to how to approach here and get the page back up and running there.

Your kind support will be highly appreciated.

Dsachdeva123 (talk) 11:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Levi L. Rowland.gif[edit]


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Thanks for the welcoming post![edit]

Thank you! I was anxiously awaiting for the first post on my Talk page. :) F Camp (talk) 20:39, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm Lost![edit]

Sorry to bother you but I'm lost!

I'm trying to write a biography for a published author and I can't find anywhere how to show my work so far to her?

Could you please either answer my question or direct me to a specific location where I can find an answer?

Many thanks!

web — Preceding unsigned comment added by Webspelunker (talkcontribs) 01:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry still trying to find my way around!

I'm working with my subject, I'm trying to understand how we can collaborate together on the article I've started.

Appreciate your earlier reply!


web (talk) 22:19, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the guidance[edit]

Thanks for your guidance. I have read the details on the links shared by you. I cant re-create a page now, as it now requires admin privileges to do it, I would urge you to either help me create the same. I have added a request for page creation at

Could you please review this request and see if the page can be re-created. Thanks heaps. Dsachdeva123 (talk) 15:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

Acted as per your guidance[edit]

I have posted the new re-worded article at Could you please check and see if this is all okay to be presented to the admin who deleted it. Dsachdeva123 (talk) 04:43, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Daniel Phelan, Baseball Player[edit]

I am the great grand niece of Daniel Phelan and also a genealogist who has done extensive research on Dan. Some of the Wikipedia info about him is wrong:

He did not have a middle initial. He died 28 July 1934 in Waterbury, Connecticut at age 72. I have his death certificate as a source. He was buried 31 July 1934 in Old St. Joseph's Cemetery in Waterbury, CT. He was born ( 5 November 1861) and died in his hometown of Waterbury. Can you correct this in Wikipedia? My Email is if you need to contact me about the corrections. I am assuming you'd like your info to be as accurate as possible and I am 100% certain about my corrections! Thanks so much, Terry Phelan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tphelan100 (talkcontribs) 15:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) Media Viewer RfC[edit]

You are being notified because you have participated in previous discussions on the same topic.

(Oops, I posted on your Russian Talk page before I saw the link to your main Talk page here.) Alsee (talk) 16:40, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

The Days (band) nominated for deletion[edit]

I have nominated the article The Days (band) for deletion because the band lacks notability. You have edited this article in the past and so I thought you might be interested. You may discuss this nomination here: WP:Articles for deletion/The Days (band)

  Bfpage |leave a message  02:47, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Need help with a particular process in Wikipedia[edit]

is there a way i can message you like a private message. a particular user here is abusive..need help.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fowl vet (talkcontribs) 06:01, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, you can use the "email this user" option along the left side of this page. Aboutmovies (talk) 21:40, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Article development and maybe a DYK?[edit]

Could I interest you in helping me with developing Serial (podcast) and possibly finding hooks for a DYK? I've been editing for a couple of months, and feeling a bit tentative about taking it to the next level...After hearing the first episode of this series on OPB this morning, I became motivated (as a 66-yr old grandma type) to figure out the podcast thing. It's a compelling series, and I'm hoping for some help this week, but will certainly understand if it's not something you'd be interested in doing. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 22:33, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm not really into podcasts, so I would not be of much use on article development. But, Stephen Fry's Podgrams appears to be the highest rated article on a podcast, so I would suggest using that as a template. Once it is expanded a bit more I can take a look for something that would work well as a hook for a DYK. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:09, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
That's very helpful. I'll keep working on it. Thanks! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 04:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
I've taken the development as far as I could this week. My understanding is that DYKs have a 1-week deadline for applying after the publication of a new or substantially revised article? Do you have time to review/look for a hook in the next few days? Thanks for your kind help. Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:01, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Nothing sexy, but a nomination has been completed. If nothing else, it can be a placeholder in case something more interesting comes up. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:49, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you very much! I very much appreciate your kind help. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 15:24, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for the helping hand! Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 15:26, 15 October 2014 (UTC)


Thanks man, heaps for letting me know how to use wikipedia more effectively! Kind Regards N8

Contract Bridge players[edit]

You have 'patrolled' several bridge players. Some of these have won multiple World Championships, are the in the sport's hall of fame, and have obituaries in the NY Times.

I already went through this with several other Wiki editors. I have selected bridge players that have won 5+ national titles. There are under 300 of them. By comparison the top 300 baseball home run hitters all have a Wikipedia page. Please see the section under ANI in my talk section. Others, who have done more research, have not disagreed with the selection of players I have made. Nicolas.hammond (talk) 11:42, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

See B. Jay Becker, Carol Sanders, Tom Sanders, Seymon Deutsch, Robert F. Jordan, Edith Freilich, Lew Mathe, Tobias Stone, Phil Feldesman, Waldemar von Zedtwitz, Peter A. Pender. Nearly all the (dead) players I added have non paid obituaries in the New York Times, including all those I just listed. Not sure what is required for WP:GNG, but I think an obit in NYT is sufficient. Let me know if not.Nicolas.hammond (talk) 18:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Dispatch (sternwheeler)[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Dispatch (sternwheeler) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:40, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Serial (podcast)[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:03, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Assessment of William McLeroy[edit]

May I inquire what content is the article William McLeroy, from being considered being a B rated article for WP:WPBIO?--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:48, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Content. It is barely a C-class article. Looking at just the first section (Early life): Where was he born, and when did he do all these things? Where did he do his mission work? Who are his parents, siblings, and everything else that makes it a biography. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:47, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I will try to find sources on that.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 05:59, 1 November 2014 (UTC)


I believe the photo drive COTM ended on 10/31. On the off chance a new COTM has not already been chosen, you might consider the neighborhoods project I am putting together on the WP:ORE talk page. Perhaps not the most glamorous project, but it would be great to have categories for Portland's neighborhoods, populated with entries associated with each. And, they could have equivalent categories at Commons. Wikipedia articles could use maps, boundary details, etc. Plenty of tasks to be done. Just a thought. ---Another Believer (Talk) 19:56, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion, but I went with something else. Drives in which there is a lot of instructions or are complicated tend not to do well. It's not that your neighborhoods is super-complex, but more so than say write an article. As a secondary concern, I don't like to jump new things ahead of ones that have been waiting for years. Maybe next month we could tackle a single neighborhood to make it more focused. Aboutmovies (talk) 15:29, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
No problem whatsoever. It was just a thought. The neighborhoods project is certainly a big one. The book article drive is a great idea, and it reminds me that I need to develop Wikipedia:Oregon Arts Project/Literary Arts. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:45, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Would you be able to Re-edit this page?[edit]

Back in Sept 2012, you had uploaded a photo to the infobox of the [Meineke Car Care Center] article.

As suggested by a recent suggestion on the article's Talk page, would you be able to update the graphic to either the logo or an updated sample location photo?

If you're able to help here, too: the company recently acquired a acquired a company called AutoTech, and I was thinking of adding something like the below as an addition to the Acquisitions section on the page so that AutoTech customers aren't confused about the transition:

In September 2014, the brand acquired and converted seven AutoTech Master Mechanics shops in the Las-Vegas area. (reference link:

Thanks for the Welcoming! Glad to be here.[edit]

Hey Aboutmovies! Thanks for your welcome info :) It is lot of reading before someone can learn to use the system properly, so i am still reading and learning, it's nice to have some guidance. Anyway glad to be here, thanks again for the welcoming. Cya -Life is too short to drink cheap wine. (talk) 09:42, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Dispatch (sternwheeler)[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:02, 7 November 2014 (UTC)


... for adding coordinates to a number of public artworks in Portland. That is very helpful and will make it easier to categorize them by neighborhood when I get to that point. Much appreciated. ---Another Believer (Talk) 16:33, 9 November 2014 (UTC)


Is this how you open a conversation? You think that being a rude ass out of the door will get you what you want? This is your way of solving issues at Wikipedia? Oh, I see, you're a "Master Editor II", that explains it. With your attitude, I would have thought you were a seasoned Admin. Well, perhaps you are or want to be. I would say "go (something) yourself", but that might be taken the wrong way. How about being a little more CIVIL next time you take me to taske? Unless of course, you are not civilized. Jbottero (talk) 07:51, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

No, I opened the conversation by saying "Rv, UO and GSB are already defined above, & theose are already linked above." I then continued with "rv, Stanford GSB is defined in the lede thus the who tag is improper and so are all the other changes which is why they were reverted". Since you have reverted three times without providing a reason, I would say you would be the rude person, as you either read the edit summary or should have. So, I was civil the first three times, but after that, you loose the right to be treated civily. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:11, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Pedestrian tunnel Hillsboro Oregon.JPG[edit]

Hello, Trying to identify if this is the same tunnel as in a vintage photograph. Can you recall which street this is under? Or any other locational or information data? Kind Regards. (ps. my apology this is the first time using wiki talk, not sure about markup or protocol)

Pedestrian tunnel Hillsboro Oregon.JPG
It runs under Brookwood Parkway (45.544533, -122.936269), and was built circa 1990, so I doubt there would be any vintage photos of this tunnel. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:29, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

third opinion[edit]

Hi Aboutmovies,

I am currently involved in an editing dispute on the page Oregon, currently being discussed at User_talk:Ckere#Your_edits_to_Oregon. It appears as if you had some experience with this user on a similar issue, so I was hoping for you input in this matter. I realize that because of this past interaction you may not be entirely unbiased, but nonetheless I'd value your opinion on the matter as someone else who had discussed the flagship status of OSU. Thanks, VegaDark (talk) 12:23, 15 November 2014 (UTC).

Hi VegaDark,

Just FYI, saying that Aboutmovies "may not be entirely unbiased" is quite the understatement, considering they list on their user page that they graduated from OSU. Ckere (talk) 21:24, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

As It appears you graduated from UO looking at your edits. VegaDark (talk) 21:40, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

I have not. I live in Eugene, though. Ckere (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Oregon Mandolin Orchestra DYK[edit]

AB: I reviewed your Oregon Mandolin Orchestra DYK and suggested ALT hook. May want to take look to see if you agree.--Orygun (talk) 03:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Review of article assessment[edit]


Seasons greetings.

Previously you have visited and assessed article Legal awareness on 1st April 2013 as {{WikiProject Law|class=Start|importance=Mid}}. Since then article has been edited and improved several times and is certainlly ahead of start class.

I would be happy if you can take review of article assessment about class.

Per my personal openion importance level for article Legal awareness among stake holders would be higher specially for institutions and people involved in promotion of Legal awareness. Pl see, if you can revisit this point too.

Thanks and regards

Mahitgar (talk) 09:12, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

One more related request[edit]

In the begining Legal awareness article was tagged as below. Since article has been developed a lot since then I need help in reviewing following tags to the article also, if possible.

{{Multiple issues|confusing|date=February 2013|reason=Laudable effort has been put into this article, but it seems rambling and incoherent.}}{{essay-like|date=February 2013}}

Mahitgar (talk) 09:22, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

John Marshall Harlan II[edit]

John Marshall Harlan II‎; 06:24 . . (+1)‎ . . ‎Aboutmovies (talk | contribs)‎ (removed Category:People from Chicago, Illinois; added Category:Lawyers from Chicago, Illinois using HotCat) Are you suggestging that lawyers are people too? {:>{)> Just kidding. 7&6=thirteen () 13:34, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Dr Stuart House - Dayton, Oregon.jpg[edit]


Thanks for uploading File:Dr Stuart House - Dayton, Oregon.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 00:22, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

I had placed a revision in the article on High School Football Rivalries lass than one hundred years old, but I know that the attempt did not work - I couldn't figure out the proper format.

The source was from the Burlington County Times of October 24, 2014; the record I listed included the victory by Palmyra in the game on October 25th.

Musicalcoopers7500 (talk) 21:21, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Oregon Mandolin Orchestra[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Oregon Mandolin Orchestra at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 18:08, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Oregon Mandolin Orchestra[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 13:52, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Wikimedia genealogy project[edit]

Just wondering if you have any thoughts re: the idea of WMF hosting a genealogy project. If so, feel free to contribute to this discussion. And apologies if I have made this request before. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:18, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Westmoreland Park[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:37, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

"People from" vs "Artists from"[edit]

I have noticed that for a couple of pages I am watching, you've changed the reference from "People from xyz" to "Artists from xyz".

Is there somewhere that describes what is being considered an artist? Photographers apparently? But as a type designer, I think it's going a bit far to classify type designers such as Robert Slimbach as artists. Type design is a very specialized craft, not an art. 00:53, 16 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tphinney (talkcontribs)

The best way is to follow the category structure up. For Category:American typographers you will see it is in Category:American designers which in turn is in Category:American artists. Another way to think of it, without following the category tree, is to think about what type of school the person would have attended. For a type designer I would think it would be an art school, and same for photographers. In other words, it not just what people traditionally think of as an artist, as artists are far broader than just painters. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:17, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

December 2014[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Rich Mullins. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Walter Görlitz (talk) 15:58, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Walter: please see WP:DNTTR. Additionally, invoking this warning when you are one half of the dispute is ironic.
Both of you: Please continue your interaction by starting a discussion at talk:Rich Mullins. —EncMstr (talk) 18:52, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Walter, it is further inappropriate given I did leave a message on your talk page that instead of responding to you simply removed. The fact is, there is consensus, you just refuse to accept it since it goes against your personal opinion, changing the cat without anyone else's input is contrary to how we work on Wikipedia. Songwriters were already in a writers car as they should be. Aboutmovies (talk) 04:11, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Echo Gate coordinates[edit]

You added coordinates for the sculpture (which I appreciate), but the coordinates show the sculpture is under the Hawthorne Bridge and the article says it is under the Morrison Bridge. Did you add coordinates based on the Public Art Archive source used in the article, which suggests it is under the Hawthorne Bridge? Just curious, since the information seems contradictory. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:37, 27 December 2014 (UTC)

No clue, I did a lot around then, but yes, at least one of the sources had it under the wrong bridge. I've fixed it based upon StreetView confirmation. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:54, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much. ----Another Believer (Talk) 07:23, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Institute of Competition Law Question[edit]

Hello Aboutmovies,

Happy New Year! I wrote an article on the Institute of Competition Law, and you disputed the neutrality of my article, stating that it is start-class and of low importance. I have been adding citations to the article, citing to reliable outside sources (e.g. government websites and other think tank websites whose Wikipedia articles are not disputed that have cited to the Institute), and I will continue to add in more of these citations. Please let me know what else I can do to resolve the dispute.

Thank you very much!

KWMills KWMills (talk) 00:37, 12 January 2015 (UTC)January 11, 2015

I didn't tag the article with the neutrality tag, that was Bgwhite. I only assessed it, and I'd say its still start class (need to get rid of the ids among other things), and it will likely always be low importance as not exactly an important topic for law versus say a universal topic like murder or human rights. Aboutmovies (talk) 05:00, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Page Creation Request.[edit]

Hello Aboutmovies. If you have time, I would like a Wikipage created for me... I am an up-and-coming film-director and entrepreneur and it would help me tremendously. My credentials can be found here: [1] and here: [2]. Thanks a bunch and happy new year! -Jeremy Akatsa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremyakatsa (talkcontribs) 15:33, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Hello and how to request deletions from a page?[edit]

Hello, thank you for the very nice welcome from a fellow Oregonian! (an earlier version of this post contained a question but I was able to find wiki policies to resolve my issue - hope I did not disturb you and thank you!) Gaabriel Becket (talk) 05:42, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Hillsboro High School[edit]

Hello Aboutmovies,

I am user aguilar2151... It would be appreciated if you stop deleting my addition to the Hillsboro High School page in wikipedia. I am a college student and it needs to stay online for two weeks.. you're hurting my grade in Writting.. After two weeks I can delete the entire entry as I do not do this as a hobby. It is simply an assignment. Thanks! Aguilar2151 (talk · contribs)

Sorry, but we don't just ignore guidelines so people can get a good grade. Honestly, if the rule is the edit has to stay for two weeks, that would imply the edits need to be acceptable to Wikipedia, and these are not. In other words, you have a deeper problem. This page may be of some help. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:40, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For help on Imran Bakari page - great stuff. YellowFratello (talk) 09:55, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote[edit]

Hi Aboutmovies. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian (46th to be exact), and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:55, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

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Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 23:07, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

Request Article Review[edit]

Aboutmovies: I occasionally do articles outside scope of Wiki-Oregon. Recently, I created article on Hugh E. Conway, a labor economist and professor from back east. It was initially given a START rating. I contacted Meno25 (the editor who did the rating) for feedback. He replied that he wasn’t an expert on any of the Wiki-project areas that he rated and suggested that I contact Wiki-Econ group for a re-assessment. I did that, but didn’t get any reply. I believe you’re Wiki-Bio member which is another relevant Wiki-project for this article. Instead of leaving note on busy Wiki-Bio page, thought I’d see if you had few minutes to take second look at this article’s rating. While it’s not long, I think it’s pretty comprehensive and has good sources. Would you do Wiki-Bio rating re-assessment when you have time? Thanks!--Orygun (talk) 23:58, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for re-assessing article!--Orygun (talk) 07:34, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


Instead of blind-reverting, you should consult the pertaining guidelines first. See WP:Categorization and check out what "defining" means. Brooks was not a Businessman from Portland. Period. He wasn't. He was a businessman, yes, he was from Portland, yes, but notr a businessman from Portland. To add such a category is inappropriate. Kraxler (talk) 18:26, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

I know the guidelines, I've been doing this for nearly a decade and am one of the top 50 editors. You simply don't get how these by place categories work (its a standard scheme). See WP:DIFFUSE. The defining part is the businessman thing, not by place. Rarely is someone defined by the place they are from. Once you get below the "American businessperson" level or "American politician" or what not, it is not the intersection that is defining, but simply diffusing larger categories in the manner in which you see I am doing. It is done by going if they are in a place category (People from Portland, ME for instance), then diffusing them into any appropriate occupation subcats. If Portland is not a defining characteristic, then they should be removed entirely from the Portland category structure, which you refuse to do. As this specific guideline covers we do allow for categorizations by associations: e.g. we categorize by association with an educational institution, despite most people not becoming notable for their association to the institution. Outside of athletes, few students become notable while at school. Aboutmovies (talk) 18:40, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
I fogot to mention before, but the title of the cat should also serve to inform you of what I discuss above. Namely the word "from". If the cats used "of" you would be correct, but this uses from. There are "of" cats out there, but this is from. Aboutmovies (talk) 19:28, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
Things should make sense in an encyclopedia. Doing things wrong for a long time are no excuse to keep on with it. In this case, why not adding "Bussinessmen from Staten Island" or "Businessmen from New York City"? It's that easy. I've been around for less than a decade, but people have been added always at place categories according to their birth place. Kraxler (talk) 14:43, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Are you serious: "Doing things wrong for a long time are no excuse to keep on with it." and "people have been added always at place categories according to their birth place." You like to quote WP:CAT, well try reading Wikipedia:Categorization of people which is the specific guideline at issue: "The place of birth, although it may be significant from the perspective of local studies, is rarely defining from the perspective of an individual." So, if you have always been doing it wrong now for a long time, perhaps you should stop. As to NYC businessmen, it already exists (when you remove the sexism) and the reason it was not added is I am diffusing in alphabetical order (by state), so once I get to NY I will certainly move anyone in the main from NYC category down.
The point about having been doing this for so long and in mass quantities was to demonstrate that your message was not well taken. We tend not to "template" the regulars or leave messages such as the one you left quoting from various guidelines. I'm well versed in the guidelines and am happy to have a proper inclusion debate, but pointing me (or any regular) to a guideline in some sort of "I know better than you" tantrum will not get you anywhere on Wikipedia.
My tenure also should help you realize that perhaps this is proper, and is even within the bounds of WP:CAT. The problem newer editors have with people categories is they want them, like you, to have some sort of definitive connection. As in they were a businessperson in that particular place. But such a connection is rarely a defining characteristic. Being a businessperson is, but not by a place (city/state), though to some extent by nationality. This is why the guideline for people categorization mentions it is acceptable to categorize by nationality/occupation. It is also acceptable to categorize by place, even though the guideline basically implies this may not be a defining characteristic (it uses the phrase notable residence). Now, the problem that then develops is that national level categories for occupations get overwhelmed. Imagine if the category was only American businesspeople and how many people would be in it? This is where diffusion comes into place (which is covered at WP:CAT), such as the case at hand. Plus, let's say they are Indian but made their fortune as a media mogul in LA, well these city level cats allow for this, which aides readers in finding businesspeople from a particular local. Would you prefer to just have People from Los Angeles, California with 5000 entries with the only connection being they are "from" LA; or would you prefer to browse through the actors or the musicians? This is why diffusion exists. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
"The place of birth, although it may be significant from the perspective of local studies, is rarely defining from the perspective of an individual." is not true, and should be removed from the guideline. I've written bios since 2006 here, and the birth place has always been categorized, in my bios and in all bios I've seen which were written by other users. So, the statement in question is going 100% against consensus and common sense. Besides, the birth place is something that is mentioned in almost all bio sources, i'ts asked any time you fill in a form with your personal data, and the birth places celebrate their "greatest sons/daughters". I'll propose to change the guideline.
Diffusion is ok, as I said, you could add "Businessmen from New York City". Since the man edited a nespaper, he is already categorized in "19th-century American nespaper editors", which is already more diffused, and not at all as a businessman. People who were born somewhere, and then left, should atay in the parent category of "People from XYZ". Kraxler (talk) 13:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to quote from WP:Categorization: "The central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to all Wikipedia pages in a hierarchy of categories which readers, knowing essential—defining—characteristics of a topic, can browse and quickly find sets of pages on topics that are defined by those characteristics." The "defining" means that the subject of article is defined by the category. I know about the special rule for some basic things which includes schools the subject attended, but almost all other characteristics must be really "defining". To add somebody who edited a newspaper in New York City at "Businessmen from Portland" is misleading and unhelpful, not achieving the above cited "central goal" of categorization. Kraxler (talk) 14:59, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
The thing is, people looking for people from Portland will still find this person, as he is still in that category since the businessperson is a subcat. All the subcat does is group people by occupation. Again, if the category was business people of Portland, then you thinking works, and there are some cats that exist with that verbiage. But for occupation/place ones, it is almost universally "from" and ones with "of" get deleted. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:03, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
People looking for people from Portland will find him at "People from Portland", period. Diffusing is good, as long as it makes sense. When it starts to trigger a discussion about making sense or not then it is creeping out of bounds. Kraxler (talk) 13:57, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
I have proposed a change of Wikipedia:Categorization of people#By place at Wikipedia talk:Categorization of people. Kraxler (talk) 14:16, 18 February 2015 (UTC)


Hello. I'm new here! :) I've been on previous wiki sites, such as wikiHow, and I kinda know a little bit about contributing, but how can I help out here? Where's RC Patrol? Again, I'm new here, so any help would be awesome. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OoT2D (talkcontribs) 22:50, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

I left you some links on your talk page, but RC patrol is here. Otherwise, content creators are always welcome, so you might reach out to a specific WikiProject in a subject area that you are interested in so you can perhaps expand articles or start new ones that are needed. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:58, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

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Revant Optics Wikipedia Creation Request[edit]

Hey Aboutmovies, My name is Kevin and I work at Revant Optics in Portland. I was admiring all your incredible work and wanted to reach out. I've been wanting to get our company on Wikipedia but don't have much experience publishing. I wanted to submit a page creation request, or any feedback on how we should get started.

To give you a little background on us, we were founded in 2010 and have been growing ever since. We were lucky enough to be included in the 2014 Inc. 500 fastest growing private companies boasting the #8 fastest growing in Oregon and #3 in Portland. 500 Fastest Growing Companies [1] - Zoe Henry, 10 Fastest Growing Companies in Portland [2]. Our Founder and CEO, Jason Bolt, was also featured in Portland's 40 under 40: Andy Giegerich, Portland Business Journal 40 under 40 [3]

Numerous product reviews can also be found on our Elite lenses, which we believe to be some of the best lenses out there today. Bryan Harley, Motorcycle USA Revant Optics Elite Lenses Review [4] - Matt Delancey, Revant Optics Elite HC3 Lens Review[5]. We think all this info is great to include... however, you’re the expert in this area and we we're looking for any feedback you had for us. Is there anything else we would need support our brand to legitimize having a Wikipedia?

Thanks for taking the time to help us out, Aboutmovies! We appreciate it big time. -Kevin Revant Optics (talk) 17:41, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

Edit: Realized can't be posting under the company name so username has been changed! KKRevant (talk) 19:55, 23 February 2015 (UTC)


Diane Downs[edit]

As someone with experience in editing this article, your input at Talk:Diane Downs#Lead dispute would be appreciated, Cheers. Phieuxghazzieh (talk) 07:31, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Re: Crayton Green "Sparky" Hall writeup under John Rarick article - correction needed[edit]

Please note that Crayton G. "Sparky" Hall was not "raised in Leesville" although he did graduate from High School there (he actually attended 7 or 8 high schools before and after WWII). He was raised in Columbus, GA. His father, Cecil Dempsey Hall (b. Crenshaw Co., AL), was a CCC Camp Commander, so Sparky spent a lot of time in the CCC camps in Northwest GA and around Leesville. He (Sparky) met FDR in one GA CCC camp. Also, he worked on the Barry Goldwater campaign in 1964 in Baton Rouge. Sparky died in the Cardinal Care Center, 1000 W. Allen Rd., Hendersonville, NC, Aug. 2014. Hiw wife, Ida Mae (nee Crochet) still lives there at Cardinal Care.


Jim Agnew (Sparky's son-in-law) Rocklin, CA 1982 Independent Candidate for Congress (House), Baton Rouge, Dist. 6, LA (I got 22% and lost to incumbent Hensen Moore(R))— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:18, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, I've not really edited that article, John Rarick, I just re-categorized, so I have no investment in the article. I would suggest returning to the history and selecting the "oldest" button so you can see who started the article, and thus who put in the incorrect info. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:51, 25 February 2015 (UTC)


Hi, Can you help keep this page alive (aerin Ross) ? im not sure exactly how wiki works, but the page has violated no terms, the info is valid, and people have established pages that have accomplished much less, lol. thanks for reading. oh, also, ive commented, but i dont even know if it was made part of the discussion. my comment was: "No deletion of this page will be necessary because it does not violate or conflict with any existing Wiki terms. AS a matter of fact, if your OPINION is that it should not be a page then I think its great that you are exercising your first amendment right to express yourself. However, this is a page for a working actress that has had verifiable roles on television and in Film. If it is not too soon for the film to have its own page then it is not too soon for her to have her own page. Additionally, IMDB recognizes her accomplishments so why should this forum be any better? Please tell me that you are not implying that a hardworking and and talented individual (probably no different than yourself) is not "good enough" to have a page because you dont like the idea...that's small minded...please be better than that. lets ALL be better than that. Thank you for your thoughts!" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:8B58:AD00:E9F8:D6AA:4D15:207A (talk) 16:53, 27 February 2015 (UTC)