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Subdue that Peacock
My key How to write about UK settlements task!
Subdue Peacock terms into more verifiable and encyclopedic statements. As concerns UK Places see WP:UKTOWNS and WP:UKVILLAGES weasel terms and unverifiable and unpublished peacock phrases often need to be rephrased or erased and their publishers notified which typically involves identifying encyclopaedic terms such as "lively community", "beautiful", "great", "leading school", "thriving", "affluent", "within easy reach of" and "blighted by/ shabby/ run-down" unless strong scholarly (e.g. non-tourism focussed book) or governmental sources can be found to verify such content and it is worthy of a Global Encyclopedia article.
Essentially many articles otherwise descend into a beauty contest.
See my user page. Spread the knowledge (and therefore wikipedia).
London Stone (riparian)
Good to see your changes to London Stone (riparian). Will you be able to continue the good work? The section on Staines still has a number of problems.
eg: The ref to the 'canalisation' of the Thames - I don't think the installation of locks and some dredging counts as canalisation.
'next bridge upstream from London Bridge' - if we're strict about 'In medieval times' there were also Kingston bridge (12th century - earlier than the first reference to Staines bridge) and Chertsey (1410).
'a distance of 31 km as the crow flies' - given the winding course of the river, a straight-line distance as the crow flies is particularly unhelpful. I believe the course of the Thames is about 65km through Greater London, but I don't know the length from Staines to London Bridge!
Just out of interest, do you have a source for your description of the tidal effect as it was 'in medieval times'?
- Your first two ideas crossed my mind, make them so! Distance is best to be universally point-to-point says how to write about UK settlements, why not just scrap the distance and replace with the very old road and crossing point leading to Staines Bridge/ferry. It would be the distance of the hurdle that is of interest unless you live in a meander. And it would be the road that actually determined the point.
- I've read Robbins's Middlesex I think it was on this page. Fact of hydrology. It's not as if one point saw a range of tidal effects then no tides on a straightish watercourse. Tidal effects, as plural, in general connotes major effect.- Adam37 Talk 10:49, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
|The Copyeditor's Barnstar|
|Excellent work on Barnes and other articles. Edwardx (talk) 12:35, 21 December 2013 (UTC)|
Thanks for your recent tweaks to some of the Onslows. Given the number of incoming links, I'm inclined to think a separate article on Kevington Hall is justifiable, but as I haven't any experience with British architecture articles (and their proper sourcing), I leave it to you to decide. Choess (talk) 14:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Sort of. Grade II* is borderline. Also, as it is a school building that was originally a grandiose (ie not just agricultural) manor house (one of c. 100 around the country) I suspect one article will be sufficient, especially as the names are rightfully about the same. On a separate point, given the dual use I see no reason not to cover it under a Amenities section in St Mary Cray. An internal link could be added there in Landmarks as well. That might be ample coverage. What do you think?- Adam37 Talk 21:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
- Perhaps I should have said "an article" rather than "a separate article"; it doesn't seem to be discussed except in your parenthesis at Denzil Onslow (of Stoughton). I think an article separate from St Mary Cray would be better; the focus could be the structure and its architecture, but with some background on the history of the manor (cf. here), which might overburden the St Mary Cray article. (The moreso as it's no longer being used as a school.) Choess (talk) 03:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Geographical name changes GAN
Remember the GA nomination for Geographical name changes in Turkey? Well it was almost done but I forgot what happened and I just couldn't finish it off. I just wanted to tell you that I renominated it again and I would love it if you're willing to do a re-review. It's not going to take much really. The main issue (the lead) is now fixed and appropriate to GA standards. Let me know. Thanks! P.S. By the way it's Proudbolsahye...I recently changed my username to EtienneDolet. Étienne Dolet (talk) 08:31, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
- The essence was good but the connotations, occasionally divisive terminology and conjugations would offend all but the most lax GA assessors I have come across. I am appalled by a few of the GA crew who rejected one of my own nominations, not just failing but demoted two grades and having to toil to even get it to WP:B class. It was not on a controversial subject. So I really am not going to stick my neck out sadly on this article.- Adam37 Talk 19:54, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
A beer for you!
|For all the terrific work you've done expanding articles, such as Putney Bridge, you deserve a beer. All the very best, Pjposullivan (talk) 03:35, 10 March 2014 (UTC)|
St Johns Woking
Thank you for the edits on St Johns Woking:
The name of the village varies on signs and street names but local historians, older people, deeds to property, and usage in The London gazette:
agree that it is written without apostrophe. This is also backed up by the peerage title of Baroness Anelay of St Johns, whose name is taken from that of the village and is written without apostrophe.
The village name, then, in the absence of convincing evidence otherwise, should I think be written without apostrophe as "St Johns". Since I know you are interested and experienced in grammar and place name spellings I'd be glad for you to consider this and make the changes if agreed?
- True. See apostrophes in place names: orthographic reform links to it. I am keen to give clearer meaning to things, so St John's? But your point about a few centuries of English unclarity is almost convincing. However the telling factor is it could suggest two St John's churches in the village which is not true. All of your sources are not as officious or official as say, offices and councils of the public sector, which for better or worse, have great sway in orthography in Britain. In the last 5 years words have been broken up which never used to be and apostrophes added to many other place names. In the words of that nun on Sister Act 2, go with God, Crispy!?- Adam37 Talk 18:14, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Surrey cleanup listing
- That will help people participating most frequently in WP:SURREY. Thank you. - Adam37 Talk 14:14, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
- Corrected now :-) The notability which another editor saw may be for its tourist credentials - the A5 is rich in history. By sad contrast the M1 has in places become a sad scar on the landscape (of course only mentioned on talk pages for fear of upsetting the motorway as opposed to competitive railway building lobby).- Adam37 Talk 20:03, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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