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Upload an Image

hi, u recently contacted me on my talk page, (stephent90).

I have an image of Ince & Elton train station which I wish to upload, (photograph taken by me, owned by me), but as I am not yet an autoconfirmed user, I cannot do this.

Is there any way that would enable me to upload this picture now?

Thanks

Stephent90 (talk) 08:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


Image Deletion

How do I delete images of mine that I am not satisfied with from commons? Britishrailclass91 (talk) 18:57, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

What image(s) would you be thinking of in particular. It might not be possible to delete all of them I'm afraid. Just a note about Commons regarding your comment about leaving and using Flickr instead. Commons isn't and doesn't intend to be a photo sharing site like Flickr, the idea of Commons is that you upload selected photos which are useful to one or more Wikimedia Foundation projects rather than sharing all photos you've taken as you might do on Flickr. Adambro (talk) 19:13, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Poetlister images

I have responded on my talk page here and on my talk page at Commons. I'm sorry if having the conversation in two different places makes it difficult for you to read. Shalom (HelloPeace) 02:09, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Ince & Elton Timetable

hi, why was timetable information removed for Ince and Elton railway station?

I feel as the service is infrequent, and many trains terminate at various destinations, it improves the article as it shows what destinations are available from the station. (rail articles tend to have comments such as "every 30 minutes", something which cannot be used here due to the irregular timings.

please advise

(talk) 19:06, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Rockpool kayaks logo.gif)

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Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-05-12/Copyright claim

I'm aware of the situation; thank you. Ral315 (talk) 18:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


Pornography

Haven't you seen all of the news (see the wikipedia signpost) about how there is pornography. An encyclopedia that can be accessed by children should not have this sort of content! Britishrailclass91 (talk) 11:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Like Adam has said on various talk pages, since when did a naked human automatically equal pornography? This whole thing has really been blown way out of the water. Do you not think that such images are present in other encyclopaedias? ~~ [Jam][talk] 12:17, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
That's my point. Are explicit and amateur pictures (I don't mean diagrams, illustrations, drawings or professional or artistic pictures) present in Encyclopedia Britannica or Encarta? I'd like to see some examples. Thank you. Eklipse (talk) 16:10, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I think JGXenite's point here is not entirely relevant. Whilst I would agree it is important to recognise that other more conventional encyclopaedias will cover controversial topics it is not necessarily possible to directly compare these with Wikipedia in an attempt to support or oppose the inclusion of the images. Wikipedia isn't an encyclopaedia in the conventional sense, we're not limited by space like a printed encyclopaedia would be and so where they might have to decide not to include images in some articles due to space limitations, we don't have this consideration. Therefore, simply because Encyclopedia Britannica for example does not include similar images, this does not mean that we shouldn't. Adambro (talk) 16:47, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes, but what I see is that wikipedians are becoming too confident. While their work that made this encyclopedia is something to be proud of, and indeed Wikipedia is far better than any other reference work in so many aspects, one should not forget that we are striving to build a professional encyclopedia, which should adhere as closely to the established academic writing rules, and gain its reliable status as other encyclopedias written by scholars. The MOS, especially the policies on the use of citations, IPA, trademarks... are a clear example of Wikipedia professionalism. Therefore, I don't see why Encarta and Britannica shouldn't be seen, or at least partly, as models. So, I don't know why you should sacrifice Wikipedia's professionalism in order to highlight its uniqueness and its "free-speech" and "no taboo" environment with really bad taste pictures (look at fluffing and stripper) doesn't anyone have common sense?) which are uploaded because editors are mostly anonymous persons and not renowned scholars. Eklipse (talk) 17:05, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
In the case of the two articles you highlight, I'm afraid I must suggest that the images are useful in assisting the reader in understanding the topic. Adambro (talk) 17:35, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
The policies you refer to are to ensure that accuracy and legal compliance remain priorities. Professionalism, at least in a traditional sense, isn't necessarily where those come from. We're an encyclopedia, but we're also a wiki. Equazcion /C 17:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Penis

How dare you link such an article to my talk page, I am thoroughly disgusted with your actions. If I were an admin, I would block you! I will be deleting the link. Britishrailclass91 (talk) 17:53, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

That's probably why you're not an admin. Adambro (talk) 18:02, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I was just about to say the same thing... *rolleyes*
If you haven't already, you might like to read DragonHawk's comments on Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-05-12/Pornography. ~~ [Jam][talk] 18:18, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
I am starting to get increasingly annoyed with wikipedia users who seem to think pornography is fine for wikipedia. And to think I used to trust you Adambro. Britishrailclass91 (talk) 18:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps you'd be more comfortable with a censored, professionally produced source of information, rather than an uncensored, community-produced one. Equazcion /C 18:24, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Quite Equazcion - Wikipedia is uncensored and community produced. Overall, there is nothing wrong with the pictures - as has been said, they are perfectly relevant for the articles they are included in. If you do not like them, don't go on the articles featuring them. There are far worse things out there on the Internet than the pictures on the articles in question. ~~ [Jam][talk] 18:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Adam. Do you think that Sure Radio is notable enough to have its own page? I've been deliberating for a while as to whether or not I should take it to AfD. Most of the stuff there isn't referenced, and while it is fairly well known within the University, I'm not sure whether it is notable enough for its own page. Cheers. ~~ [Jam][talk] 23:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Geograph railway station images

Good point. I'll avoid using old photographs in the infobox when there is a new one available. Edward (talk) 14:35, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

wiki.xyrael.net

I am Adambro on wiki.xyrael.net. Adambro (talk) 17:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Rollback rights

Ok, I am consulting you, now please, inquiring minds want to know what the benefit of having both rollbacker and syop rights are. :D Tiptoety talk 23:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Editor Review

I thought I would start off the reviewing - no-one else seemed keen! Btline (talk) 22:31, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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Reminder Sunday Lunchtime

Just a reminder about Wikipedia:Meetup/London 10 See you Sunday 1p.m.! -- Harry Wood (talk) 00:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi there. I'm the editor who requested these speedys. I don't know if you think it might be an idea to back up my message on the originators talk page about creating maybe one article at a time? Oh, just noticed that Bryan Logan has been recreated Ged UK (talk) 21:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Your warning to ZX81

I think you warned the wrong editor over the vandalism at Blockland. ZX81 was reverting, not adding to the mess. ZX81 is reverting vandalism at a rather prolific rate. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:26, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Stanley Industrial Alliance Stage images

Hello Adambro, since you confirmed the OTRS tickets for the images placed at Stanley Industrial Alliance Stage, shouldn't you add the {{ConfirmationImageOTRS}} template to those images? Just wondering.--Crzycheetah 21:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi Adambro. How are you? Thank you for confirming about the photos. You wrote that the photos can and probably should be uploaded to the Commons. Could you tell me who I should contact to set that process in motion? Actually, besides those three photos there are some more from the same batch (two are used in other articles and a few more that right now aren't being used in any article):
  • Image:Looking North on Granville St 2.jpg
  • Image:Stanley Theatre (1).JPG
  • Image:Stanley Theatre windows.JPG
  • Image:Stanley Theatre Sign.JPG
  • Image:Stanley gold-leaf.JPG
I'd like to move all of these to the Commons if possible. Thanks, just let me know what I should do. Moisejp (talk) 00:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

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Un-free image

This image http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Crosscountry_221.jpg is quite obviously this image: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cheekymonkey56/2533927869/in/set-72157604182723502/, I'm not sure how to get this deleted so I'm reporting it to you. Thanks and regards Britishrailclass91 (talk) 21:06, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your message, I have now deleted this image. The user has uploaded a number of other copyright violations which makes this likely to be the same. I tried to track this done when I saw it uploaded but wasn't able to find the source so thanks for doing so. Adambro (talk) 21:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
That's fine, it's just I happened to know this Flickr User from outside of the internet, and I had been browsing his photostream on flickr when I switched to wiki and found that. Britishrailclass91 (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:Structural.gif

I recently created the image and uploaded it on wikipedia, but then read that I should have put it on the commons. So I think that I followed the instructions, but the one on wikipedia hasn't been deleted. Can you tell me if it is the way it should be, or do I need to do something else? thanks, Dwayne Reed (talk) 16:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Another un-free image

I can't help but thinking that [This] looks an awful lot like This Would you be able to delete it? Britishrailclass91 (talk) 17:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

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1906

You're looking good for someone who started contributing in 1906. ~~ [Jam][talk] 19:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Lakenheath railway station

Thanks for adding the photograph of Lakenheath railway station from Geograph. Edward (talk) 15:17, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi

I'm new to wikipedia, and seeing you're an admin, I was wondering whether you could give me some advice on what to do and what not to so on wikipedia. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks and regards Kelladam96 (talk) 14:55, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

It is nearly impossible we will ever find a source for the unit numbers on this page. The companys never seem to publish anything official for which units they have. It is well known between everyone which units CrossCountry have and can say that it is correct what is on that page. Maybe there is something on the DFT website.Year1989 (talk) 13:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

There won't be anything on the DfT's website and if an reliable source can't be cited then simply the information shouldn't be included. I can't consider it appropriate to say that "everyone [knows] which units CrossCountry have". Adambro (talk) 13:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
The thing is on British Rail Class 220 it states the actual unit numbers and says that they are currently with CrossCountry in many places. Isnt this just the same as stating it on the CrossCountry page? Also there are other pages such as Northern Rail and Midland Mainline to name a few which state which unit numbers they have/had. If we are to go with what you say these should be sorted under the same policy too. Year1989 (talk) 13:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
I have, and will continue to, work to remove any information which lacks citations where appropriate and where I've not been able to find a reliable source. My removal of unit numbers, where not supported by the citation of a reliable source, has not been limited to the CrossCountry article. I will in time deal with any similar problems on the other articles you highlight but I do of course hope that others will be doing so also. Thanks for finding a source for the number of units that CrossCountry operate. Adambro (talk) 14:10, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for voting in this poll. However, as another user rightly pointed out, there are other stations with inconsistent names. I've started new poll, and would welcome your input. Thanks, JRawle (Talk) 12:04, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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Layton's picture

Moved to Atrian's talk page

Your unblock of User:Pigsonthewing...

Were you aware of the vast consensus on ANI that Pigsonthewing not be unblocked until such time as he fully complies with the community's desire that he not bring up three year old feuds? The section, (which I will be bringing up this action) is here SirFozzie (talk) 22:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Moreover, Andy's userpage looked like this during his 1-year absence so Adambro's statement "This text however, has existed untouched for the duration of Andy's ban" is wrong. Occuli (talk) 00:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
SirFozzie, yes, I'm aware of that discussion. Occuli, ahh, sorry about my mistake, it doesn't change the main basis for my unblock however. Adambro (talk) 09:23, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps, but your action does demonstrate poor judgement for the reasons I (among others) have noted at the community discussion. I think you need to explain your actions there and what made you even contemplate that you had authority over the community when you were fully aware of the views expressed there. Ncmvocalist (talk) 09:40, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Broken coordinates

With reference to your recent unblock, would you look into his most recent contributions and his response to comments on these [1]. -- User:Docu

Please do, in the light of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive474#User:Pigsonthewing. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 00:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

In response to your question on my talk page, the diff above refers to a section further up on the talk page back then, see User_talk:Pigsonthewing#Coordinates. If I followed his reasoning, I think he is trying to explain that his conversion was in fact a justified reversion of edits of mine, edits that were repairing or fixing the coordinates. He seems convinced that it remains for other to clean up after him .. -- User:Docu

I'm not sure what the issue here is, why you've raised this with me, nor what you wish me to say or do about it. Clearly if he is making changes then he needs to make sure these changes work and don't impact on other aspects of a page but this should be obvious to all. Adambro (talk) 20:52, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Docu misrepresents me; you can read what I actually said at User talk:Pigsonthewing/Archive 14#Coordinates. None of my edits broke anything. Please note my concluding comment in that section, especially. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:54, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

He might listen to you. Good luck. -- User:Docu