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Hello![edit]

Talk to me - don't be afraid to let me know what you think of my contributions and/or additions and corrections. 20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)20:01, 30 March 2008 (UTC)~~

Very good edit![edit]

I read your edit on the Good News Translation article. Thanks for the really insightful edit! I didn't know Graham and oths used the GNT in crusades until the 80's. When I went to the 1995 Franklin Graham crusade in Wilmington, North Carolina, the NIV was used. -- iHoshie 12:05, 11 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, Hoshie - much appreciated as it's my first contribution. On thinking about it, I'm going to change 'eighties' to 'early eighties'. I believe the same was probably true of the Billy Graham Mission England crusade in 1984. Agendum 00:05, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Welcome. Nice to know you. Deb 18:52, 14 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Peel towers[edit]

Hi, welcome to Wikipedia. I was trying to figure out what you were aiming to do with Peel towers and Peel tower. They were both the same. I've redirected Peel tower to Peel towers now. Is that you wanted? Or should it be the other way round? Angela. 00:11, Jan 28, 2004 (UTC)~

Thanks, Angela.

Peel tower was a mistake - it should be Peel towers. I was truying to redirect from Pele tower (incorrect - or less-used - spelling). Thanks for your help. Agendum 00:53, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Clan map[edit]

Thanks. If you have any suggestions or corrections, let me know. It was not an easy map to do and I am not entirely happy with the result. At some stage, I intend to do another version that is a bit less wasteful of space so that I can zoom in a little. I was also thinking of doing custom maps for each of the clan articles with the corresponding clan region coloured in. Geoff/Gsl 04:10, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments, Bruce. I will make the changes you suggested and consult the sites you mentioned when I revise the map.
I use The GIMP for all my maps. My maps are all traced so my "original" contributions are limited mainly to colouring. I am a bit nervous about the copyright issues. While each pixel I produce is original, the designs are largely derivative. Most of the military maps are taken from fairly old sources under Crown Copyright which are probably pretty safe. The clan map at the moment is pretty faithful to the source so I'll be happy to see it revised away from the original.
I am happy to make my source file (in GIMP's XCF format) available if you or anyone else wanted to make use of it. Geoff/Gsl 01:53, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Methinks your comment on my talk page "What Dave has done seems to be a good compromise" shoud be what Geoff has done, meaning his splendid map. The clan page has come on, hope you're happy with develp[ments. p.s. read Herald today, Glasgow variety, no relation to the Daily H. dave souza 19:06, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I agree the map is superb. I've now deleted the original clan list, transferring legitimate links up to the chart of Scottish Clans. Some links were not to clans but to placenames, etc, so I've ignored those. I've included the Stewart Clan (aware that there are several who claim to be the 'real' Stewarts - or Stuarts - but it needed to be represented.

Which article in the Glasgow Herald? - I had a look on the website but couldn't find anything, apart from a fascinating article entitled 'The remarkable tale of Indian Peter'.... Bruce, aka Agendum | Talk 00:48, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

apologies, meant I'd read it, just my little jape about the lamented daily Herald before the dreaded Murdoch Sun got to it. However, by coincidence the Sunday Herald yesterday had a supplement with the "top 50 clans" - clan Brown at no. 2 and clan Smith at no. 1! Some useful info in it, but I'm off to sort out the British Isles. - dave souza 20:59, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

History of British Newspapers[edit]

How could we have omitted the Daily Herald? Thanks for rectifying that - I remember it well when I was a young lad! Bruce, aka Agendum | Talk 23:27, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Not a problem. It seems to have been almost universally forgotten except as the paper that ultimately spawned The Sun. Very sad indeed. I think it merits an entry of its own and will probably add one when I get the chance. Cheers, Mattley 10:36, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Good idea, Mattley - as an important part of the Labour movement in the UK it should not be allowed to be forgotten. Bruce, aka Agendum 13:23, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The Grid[edit]

I found the actual grid project at CERN. Replied to you at Talk:World Wide Web#The Grid.

Have a nice day! Kim Bruning 08:05, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Eric Gill[edit]

Thanks for including the link to Eric Gill's headstone. I noticed that you got the inscription just slightly wrong - 'Stone Carver' not 'cutter'. Do you think he carved it himself prior to his death? - although the bottom part he could not have done, of course.... Bruce, aka Agendum | Talk 01:08, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Also a good catch. To be fair, it was the anon before me who found the link. It didn't occur to me that the correction would also be wrong, but I guess the misdirection comes from the caption next to the photos on that link. I'm afraid I don't know whether Gill carved any of his own headstone - this link suggests it was at least his own design. -- Solipsist 07:06, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Clan list[edit]

apologies for adding back the deleted list, my error in editing offline. I did notice Armstrong wasn't on the new list, it's in the Collins book (it's a borders family): there are some odd omissions from the new list, and I did add in Hamilton. No doubt ot will fill out in time... dave souza 00:46, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC) ...Have looked at history and will aim to restore your edits asap, prooably over the weekend..dave souza 06:59, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)

That wasn't too painful, have now tried to restore the list with careful checking to avoid errors. I do try to make sure that any changes don't overwrite recent edits, but it went wrong that time. Did omit the link to Wallace and Gromit, apologies of that was your joke. As to separate lists, as discussed on the Scottish clan talk page this is a bit of a minefield, with Lord Lyon Court apparently not seeing any distinction. A quick google gave several Clan Armstrong pages, including one with the proud claim Acknowledged by Lord Lyon. Another case is Hamilton, who are a major lowlands family and also appear as a clan with territory in Arran, safely into the Highland area. Both have their tartans, of course. The column with (I'd suggest) H, L, H+L or L+H seemed a good compromise, still empty at the moment. Will try to have a look at this clan talk bit, dave souza 22:50, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Look forward to the page - I wouldn't worry about the overlap, agreed there's a significant difference between Highland clans and Lowland/Borders clans/families, but they're all Scottish and obviously a lot from completely lowland families want to think of it as a clan with a right to tartan. The side column should clarify the Highland/lowland distinction on the Scottish clan page, the Families page can expand on their particular histories etc. .dave souza 00:32, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Hi - noticed your changes to Armigerous families. Jardine has a Chief and is correctly placed on the Scottish Clans page. I note that Veitch doesn't feature on the myclans list of armigerous families - is there evidence it was ever had a chief and therefore should be considered armigerous? I suspect not, in which case it should probably be removed. Best wishes Mark Nesbitt 16:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikimeet London Dec 3[edit]

I just noticed your note on Jimbo's page saying you were sorry that you missed the last Wikimeet. This invite is a bit last minute, but hopefully you can make it Wikipedia:Meetup/London Theresa Knott (The snott rake) 22:11, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Holkham Hall[edit]

Hi, thanks for your kind words on Palladian architecture, if you know Holkham Hall you might like to check it, (I've only just finished it) for accuracy and detail, as it has been written from very long distance! Giano 10:07, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I don't suppose you have any fotos of the interiors of Holkham that are not copyright? Just a long shot, I don't bother usually too much about interiors, but the ones at Holkham are quite important architecturally. Next time you take a dog for a walk (hire one if necessary) a photo of the whole composition of Holkham would be nice too. Thanks for your comments on Palladian architecture, it seems to read now, much as it did before the 50 odd edits! Giano 21:48, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
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OR

Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Journalism[edit]

Hi, I saw you made some edits to the Newspaper article. I thought you might be interested in a new wiki about journalism. Maurreen 06:12, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Clapham Sect[edit]

Was Daniel Wilson, Bishop of Calcutta a member of the Clapham Sect?--PeterR 20:36, 27 August 2005 (UTC). What about Richard Cecil ? --PeterR 20:43, 27 August 2005 (UTC) Since I asked the question I think I read that Wilberforce and some others were regular attenders at his church (perhaps members there, not sure if membership in a local church is possible in Anglicanism, but I guess they could have been pew-renters etc.--PeterR 08:01, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Rowan Williams[edit]

Thank you for the compliment. However, on reflection it seemed to me that the ¶ was disproportionately long, given the relative brevity of the article. So I've done my best to trim myself (with only patial success), using the chance to add today's updated news. Cheers-- Doops | talk 18:31, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Some of the primates may in fact be opposed to women bishops; but it's not discussed in their letter. Doops | talk 04:21, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Who Ate All the Pies?[edit]

Brookie here - I have seen your criticism on the talk page - but also note that you haven't edited the main article page - why not do that to improve what you see as deficiencies - that way we all gain! :) Brookie: A collector of little round things 14:15, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: your message on my talk page[edit]

You had a fair use image in one of your userboxes. I removed it. --Durin 22:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image removal notification[edit]

I've previously removed fair use images from your userspace, and you have raised a concern about it. I've started Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Durin and fair use image removals. You may wish to review and comment. --Durin 13:48, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Sandbox[edit]

Hi. I have moved your sandbox from the article namespace into your userspace, you can find it here. I've done this because the article namespace should only contain encyclopedic content. For more information on namespaces please see here. Cheers TigerShark 12:11, 10 June 2006 (UTC)


[[Cockaigne

I've made a note at Talk:Cockaigne querying yourtext: "some have argued that it was the original pre-Roman name for the city,". Linguistically, is this possible? Perhap you can report where this was read. Thank you. --Wetman 07:24, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

janteloven translation[edit]

your stated almost two years ago that you needed a translation of janteloven. well, it happened to be in my calender so I will translate it for you, it might sound strange cause i'll try to do the translation as precise as possible. The Jante Law 1. You shall not think, you are anything 2. You shall not think, that you are just as much as us 3. You shall not think, that you are wiser than us 4. You shall not delude yourself, that you are better than us 5. You shall not think, you know more than us 6. You shall not think, you are more than us 7. You shall not think, that you are (good/usefull) to anything 8. You shall not laugh at us 9. You shall not think, that anyone cares about you 10.You shall not think, that you can teach us anything (notes: you can replace think with believe since both means "tro". But since it is my impression that "believe" is majorly a word used in fairy tales and religion, I'll go with "think". In verse 7 I had a problem with the word "dur" since it's un-translateable, atleast in one word, but I think "are usefull" is the best shot.. so, now... don't get to depressed.

Wikipedia:Peer review/Scotland[edit]

The Scotland article has just been put up for Wikipedia:Peer review. This is a crucial step in getting this article up to WP:FA status, or at least closer to it, which can only have positive effects on all of Wikipedia's Scotland-related coverage. The best way to get the most out of peer review is to monitor for any comments made and try to respond to them promptly. I hope that you may have some possibility to assist in this task? Thanks. --Mais oui! 16:30, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland[edit]

I am beginning to think that the Scottish Wikipedians' notice board is not the best vehicle for pushing up the quality of the Scotland article (we ought to try to get it to WP:FA, in order to get into Wikipedia:Version 0.5, or, failing that, Wikipedia:Version 1.0), and the other key Scottish articles. It is becoming increasingly obvious to me that we really ought to start up the long-mooted WikiProject Scotland.

Most of the stuff at the notice board (at least on the bottom half) is actually WikiProject material anyway, and the Talk page is really being used as a WikiProject talk already! The notice board should be just that: for bunging up brief notices and signposts. I am thinking of launching a Wikiproject and correspondingly radically clearing out, and chopping down, the noticeboard (a re-launch if you like). The Scotland Portal concept is fine (but currently mediocre/undynamic content), but in stasis: it needs a good kick up the jacksie.

For comparison, have a look at:

And, if you are at a loose end, have a look at:

Thoughts? Please express them here. --Mais oui! 18:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Scotland[edit]

Following a successful period of consultation WikiProject Scotland has now been launched. As a participant in the Scottish Wikipedians' notice board I wonder if you may be interested in this new endeavour too? If so, please sign-up here. The WikiProject will be replacing some of the functions of the notice board, especially those in the lower half.

While I am here, please also have a look at the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Scotland and give it a "Watch". It was started up by User:Visviva a few days ago, after long being mooted at the notice board, and effectively replaces all the AfD listings at the notice board. Being a transclusion of all the on-going discussions it is a much more useful tool.

Even if you do not want to spend too much time on the WikiProject, please give it a "Watch" and feel free to contribute to Talk page discussions: the more contributors the merrier.

All the best. --Mais oui! 10:32, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology[edit]

The WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology has just been created. Why not take a look? I hope you can join. Inge 17:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Biography Newsletter September 2006[edit]

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{{unblock|I've been autoblocked because my IP address was recently used by Tony Sidaway}}

I think I've got it, please re-post unblock if it doesn't work -- Tawker 18:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

RE:Response[edit]

I'm also at a loss on what thread or query this came up on as I don't remember it, but if you're asking how articles get the Biography tag that shows on the Talk page, that gets added in one of two ways. Individual editors like yourself add it to the Talk page themselves (See Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Project banner for instructions on how to add). Another way it gets added is when one of our bots auto-adds it. We just started doing the latter and so have only finished tagging any article that was in the category Category:Living people. We started going through the politician category, but it's slow going as there's only one person with a bot account, and then just a couple of us doing it manually using AWB. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography/Automation for a list of which categories we've hit and ones that are "on the plate", etc. Hope this answers your questions! If not, let me know. --plange 23:58, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Userpage vandalism[edit]

Hey! Just letting you know I've reverted some dumb vandalism on your userpage (sorry about that, by the way) and am sending the vandal off to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism for making bad edits after a fourth-level warning. Just in case you wondered who was fooling around on your userpage. Switchercat talkcont 22:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Unblock please[edit]

Netsnipe, it's happened again. Please unblock. – Agendum 00:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Unblocking, give me a couple of minutes. KillerChihuahua?!? 01:03, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, KillerCh. – Agendum 01:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
Ok, check - there have been problems with undoing the sutoblock on you before, I want to confirm it worked this time. Oh, and you can call me KC. KillerChihuahua?!? 01:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
It looks alright now. Thanks for your help, KC. I had to go to bed immediately after sending the earlier message, so sorry for the delay in responding – it was gone 1.10am here and I'm not as young as I used to be.... See Baby boomer! – Agendum 13:31, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Your user page[edit]

Your user page has been semi-protected to prevent vandalism. JDtalk 21:45, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I've also done this page. If you want me to unprotect any of them, just ask. JDtalk 21:52, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your help, JD. Much appreciated. – Agendum 00:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I've unprotected your user talk page, but I'll be watching it for more vandalism/abuse. J Di talk 15:52, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

When disambig'ing pages...[edit]

Please move the existing page to its new title and then change the former page into a disambig page, rather than creating a new page through a cut-and-paste move, as you did with John Thornton. When you make cut-and-paste moves, you break the GFDL chain, and make it impossible for people to determine who added what information. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 18:03, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Anglicanism COTM[edit]

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Helping out with the Unassessed Wikipedia Biographies[edit]

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Wikiproject Biography March 2007 Newsletter[edit]

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WP:SCOWNB Participants merger with WP:SCO[edit]

As I hope you may have seen I am attempting to tidy up WP:SCOWNB by removing old notices and the duplication that has emerged since the creation of WP:SCO. One of the latter issues is that there are lists of active Wikipedians on both locations which overlap to a significant degree. As WP:SCOWNB is ideally a place for announcements I am in process of merging the lists at WP:SCO and intend to remove the one at WP:SCOWNB when this is complete. However there are a fair number of Users not on both lists. If you do not wish to have you current WP:SCOWNB entry re-appear at WP:SCO please either let me know or edit the latter as appropriate. Thanks for your patience, and continuing support of matters relating to WikiProject Scotland. Ben MacDui (Talk) 17:43, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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Henry Phillpotts surfaces in Jamaica[edit]

You´ll be interested to know that Henry Phillpotts has appeared in the Jamaica lists..we were focused on looking for him in Barbados..so, looks like there is no involvement with Codrington, nor the SPG.. The payment was split between the four partners, not known yet how much the Bishop got..Cheers, Kbservices 19:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

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User:AlexNewArtBot[edit]

Hi Agendum, as a WikiProject Scotland participant, please check out this this thread and consider adding the bot results page to your watchlist so we can manually update the New Articles page. There are some false results for the first batch, but I'm sure we can collectively tune the rules to improve the output.

If we get enough people watching the results page, we'll be cooking with gas as they say :)   This looks like a great helper in finding new Scotland related material. Cheers. --Cactus.man 22:17, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

fishy edits to biography of Anna Anderson[edit]

(diff) (hist) . . Anna Anderson‎; 05:03 . . (-15,029) . . 209.136.70.48 (Talk)

These edits look fishy. Can you look at it? --Markisgreen 05:26, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Biography 2007 Summer Assessment Drive[edit]

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William Wilberforce[edit]

Thanks for your nice message, and I certainly agree it would be a great project to get the article up to GA and FA if possible. Judging by your userpage you have the background and resources to do it pretty much single-handed! My access to books etc is more limited, given where I live, but I can easily get access to pretty much any academic journal or newspaper under the sun, also the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, so will do what I can in that direction. BTW I was most interested to see all the Porteous material and connections you have here. I know a Porteous family here in Montreal and will have to figure out where they fit into it all sometime! --Slp1 17:59, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi again. No problemo at all about changing the ref name. You are doing a great job with all the rewriting. I will continue my slow citing efforts, though limited by lack of resources! As an observation, I generally find it easier to cite as one writes as finding the refs after can be a pain. It would also be nice to get hold of some of the more recent biographies and see what they have to add (and to give a bit of variety in the references!), but I don't know how feasible that is. I have made some notes from the Hochschild book and will add what I think are some interesting snippets as some point. I also downloaded some scholarly and other articles, which I will wade through soon. Presently real life is very real and very present, which will slow things down but I am committed to this project!--Slp1 02:37, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. I know what busy-ness is too, and that real life needs our main focus. I myself am still in super-busy season for the next fortnight or so, but will try and help out where I can. I have managed to get some academic articles to peruse, but of course need the time to do the perusing! I will get back to the article, though! --Slp1 23:30, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I am ploughing my way through the book, slowly but surely. There are a few discrepancies that I mean to bring up at some point, but I think getting a peer review would be useful information at this point. I am going to have limited internet access (and time to work on things) for the next little while, but I will do what I can and we would probably benefit from the feedback sooner rather than later in any case. --Slp1 (talk) 01:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Check my usertalk for some encouraging words from a frequent Feature Article reviewer! I think there is still a fair bit of work to do before we can in those reviewers, but it is a good start, no? --Slp1 (talk) 03:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I will do my best, but am travelling and have very limited access and time at present. There are lots of things that I would like to clean up in the article, and of course there is finishing the Hague book. But hopefully there will be some constructive criticism that will also help in this process. --Slp1 (talk) 01:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
The more I look at it, the more I see needs to be done. There are lots of passages that are uncited, some problems with the format of the citations, duplicate and overlinking, etc. In general, and having been through this before on another article, I think it is preferable to get one's ducks in a row as much as possible before going for these 'promotion' type reviews. Hopefully we can work through things that need to be done quickly, though frankly the timing is not that great for me, as noted above.Slp1 (talk) 03:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Anglican collaboration of the month[edit]

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GA Review of William Wilberforce[edit]

Hi there!

I'm reviewing the aforementioned article for GA, and I noticed you had quite a few contributions to both the article and the talk page. I was wondering if you'd be interested in taking a look at some small issues I brought up on the talk page? It'd probably take you under an hour to fix most of the them. Anyways, this is just to let you know what's going on with that article.

Cheers,

Malachirality (talk) 09:01, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for your note. Good to hear from you, Malachirality – I have to confess that I have ignored WW in recent weeks. You are right – the body of the article was largely rewritten by me, with sterling help from Slp1 (especially), Keith and David.
I have a couple of days off this week, so will do as you have suggested and try to bring him up to scratch. Thanks for interest and your helpful suggestions. Cheers – Agendum (talk) 23:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your note and I am glad to see that you are back in the saddle again! I myself much appreciate working with others on these things, and hope you don't mind too much some of the changes I have made to the text. I like to stick very closely to the sources I have when sourcing things, and I have reorganized things a bit, but I am happy to discuss any of these changes. I am hoping to get things up to scratch this weekend. For me this means....
  • fully sourcing the text, and deleting what can't be.
  • adding a bit more about the Clapham sect, living arrangements etc
  • adding about the Queen Caroline affair
  • amplifying information about the Sierra Leone project
  • tightening up the section about abolition which I agree with Malachirality is a bit too much about the topic and not enough about WW
  • adding something about how WW has adopted by Christians/evangelicals as a Christian hero
  • and the other suggestions Malachirality has....

mmm, seems a lot! Hope it can be done though, and of course you likely have your own ideas!Slp1 (talk) 16:46, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. Your plan sounds great, and I agree that the print out thing often helps a lot. I guess there is something about paper. I agree we are very close to being ready, though I do have one or two other things in mind as above, including a journal article I found that may be useful for a different perspective and a new reference! I hope to get to these things in the next couple of days. --Slp1 (talk) 15:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

PS I have learnt to spell Tomkins correctly now. Thanks very much!

Thanks again for the message. I have done another run through and hope to have caught some of the stray extra commas, but this is obviously not really my gift, so perhaps you can have a look too. Can you check out the thing about meeting in the parliamentary gallery... Hague and others say it was before they became MPs, but maybe Pollock says differently? I still have designs to increase the Sierra Leone section and to add to the Legacy section, and hopefully that can happen before the end of tomorrow, but wouldn't be a sine qua non anyway, I wouldn't think. Must go to bed.03:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Slp1 (talk)
It's looking good, I think. I am giving myself an hour before bed to try a few more tweaks and clarifications and will do what I can. I think those sentences are fine... as you say important to the story.Slp1 (talk) 01:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Well done for even trying! I figure some boffin will make some sort of bot or patch or whatever to fix the problem! I can't imagine it will be held against the article given the circumstances. Anyway the picture is so lovely and large that it is good for the visually impaired! Slp1 (talk) 18:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your question, Bruce. Per WP:LEAD "The lead should be able to stand alone as a concise overview of the article. It should establish context, summarize the most important points, explain why the subject is interesting or notable, and briefly describe its notable controversies, if there are any." I think we need to cover some of the less positive material in the lead to give a whole flavour of the man. I think there are likely other tweaks to be made to make sure it follows WP:LEAD, but I'm incline to wait a bit for that! --Slp1 (talk) 22:11, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

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William the Good[edit]

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Hi Bruce,

It was a long wait, but with patience we are there, thanks to all your hard work. Congratulations and have a glass of champers!!! --Slp1 (talk) 21:00, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

reportedly[edit]

re the singing edit. Can you check the discussion on this at the peer review page: [1]. The reviewer didn't like the "reportedly" part, and wanted more information which is why I changed it. --Slp1 (talk) 22:35, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm no expert but I think it must be a fake, or possibly a still from a film or something. It does look like a photo and in fact I am sure it is. It isn't in any book I've seen and it is awfully early for a photograph, no? I was thinking (without looking properly) that it was just a black and white photo of the painting, but you are right, it isn't. The man doesn't even look the same. Too many weird things. Take it out, say I. --Slp1 (talk) 21:55, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Autograph[edit]

Thank you for your comment in my 'autograph' book. I'm just a cheerleader for William Wilberforce! I hope you two take it to Wikipedia:Featured article candidates soon...although beware that the process is akin to a pit of vipers. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 13:31, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

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William[edit]

Thanks for your encouragement, though I think the credit should go to Qp10qp's review, which I am still struggling to respond to, though slowly making ground. Unfortunately, there still seem to be important but challenging aspects to work on, but I am hoping to get to these as soon as I can.--Slp1 (talk) 15:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Once again, thanks for the feedback. I am almost at the bottom of my piles of papers and notes, so the end is in sight for me. I think it would be great if you could look into the images, as you suggest. Maybe a cropping of the column would make it stand up straighter? Also contacting Elcobbola (talk · contribs · count): it would be good to get any surprises re images sorted out before getting to FAC. --Slp1 (talk) 11:49, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

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I totally realize that you are wanting this to be a fair and accurate biography, but I am just wondering about some of your recent edits. Forgive me for asking: I'm thinking of this edit in particular [3] which is well sourced using "unchristian" and this one [4]: Pinfold doesn't talk about a divinely inspired crusade, but perhaps Hague does: I can't check because I had to take the book back to the library? Does Hague mention this there? --Slp1 (talk) 00:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I actually think moving up the quote is fine, and placing more emphasis on this is okay. Hague calls something similar to this but does not use the same language which is why I phrased it as I did. My problem is that we can't include our own opinions into the article, we need to make sure that any edits we make accurate reflect the sources cited. For example, immoral is not the same as unchristian and unchristian is the specific word Pinfold used. I would also very much suggest we avoid adding any more Pollock. He may have been the standard biography, but I have now read 2 specific comments which links his book in the out of date elitist view, including one that was written in the 1980s!! e.g. "The sons were primarily responsible for the traditional view, the simplistic myth of Wilberforce and his Evangelical allies as allies in a holy crusade against the greatest Evil of the times....It was this elitist view, given scholarly acceptability by Sir Reginald Coupland, who in addition to amplifying the background, presented Wilberforce as a kindly, lovable and immensely popular personality. This is basically the position taken by two more recent biographers, Robin Furneaux and the Rev. John Pollock -both of whom are sympathetic to Wilberforce's religious motivations." from Out of Slavery: Abolition and After (Studies in Commonwealth Politics and History). I don't think we want to use too much in the way of interpretation from a 30 year old book that has been criticized for its old fashioned approach.--Slp1 (talk) 11:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Happy reading! I totally agree about the irritation of googlebooks and amazon, but they are very useful and wet the appetite, which of course is the idea! There are lots of other similar ones out there, if you do googlebooks searches, all of which help to broaden the mind. I don't by any means think that Brown is the be all and end all of WW interpretation, and actually having read around the subject a bit, in some ways the only really new thing he brought for the purposes of this article was the idea that people can have multiple motivations and the Evangelicals were in part motivated by the fact that it was a very popular campaign. New, but not exactly outrageous, given what we all know about how much more fun it is to be involved in a popular cause than an unpopular one! I guess the way I see it is that none of these interpretations are so radically different from each other that we need to attribute them specifically. They all say that he was motivated by his Christianity and the way that he felt Christianity should be lived out. (All except Williams, I guess, who also sufficiently outmoded that we don't need to give his views space in the biography part) Personally, I think that is clear in the text. Of course, how he thought Christianity should be lived out also led him to support/oppose/ignore some other things people might and did/do question: but as Hague and Hochschild point out, he was just being consistent with his worldview. Not such a strange or bad thing either, really.Slp1 (talk) 23:48, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
BTW did you see ElCobbola's edit on my talkpage about the photos on Flickr etc? Perhaps you could answer since you have a better grasp of what you did and what happened etc. Slp1 (talk) 23:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay, what do you think, should we take the plunge soon? It'll never be perfect and getting more feedback will be helpful in any case! Slp1 (talk) 00:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Your timeline is fine by me. I don't think it is a tragedy if we don't get photo in before the starting the nom, and the text is going to end up changing during the process as we get feedback, so up to a point as long as we clear up obvious issues it is probably best if we don't feel it is perfect before we start... otherwise we won't want to make the changes suggested!! --Slp1 (talk) 11:42, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The deed is done![5] I hope you approve of the nom! We will need to keep an eye on things there and try to respond to comments as they appear! Hopefully it won't be toooooo painful! Slp1 (talk) 22:25, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, I don't really think I have that much more experience than you, but I have gone through the FA process once, and it is considerably more detailed and rigourous than GA, and can be quite a difficult experience. You might want to read up here, [6] [7] as well as this only semi-serious one [8]. And of course you can look at what comments other articles are getting here WP:FAC. In fact I think it is often appreciated if we try to review another article or two on that list when we nominate one. The instructions about what to do and how are there, which is good.
I don't think we need to edit the article anymore (unless you want to and see something that needs doing). I think we may get plenty of suggestions to keep us busy from other people. About your edit of today: I still think "extreme" is a bit "extreme" for those pages referenced, but I was willing to let it go, as on rereading the pages yet again there are some bits of Brown on that page that go in the direction you want it to, though not quite as boldly, perhaps. But since you have now said that you are not sure that it is appropriately referenced either, then I believe we must remove it as it isn't verifiable, which is obviously a criteria for FA. Or perhaps I will just edit it (making it a bit softer, probably) so that it is verifiable. When you find your reference you can always add it later.--Slp1 (talk) 23:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
No problem. Here it is in case you are interested [9] By the way, don't forget that we should use only citation templates, not cite book ones. I fixed the one you added for Clarkson, but it is probably quicker to use the citation one from the start!!Slp1 (talk) 21:51, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I'm fine with them. MF doesn't like the present participle, and you and I do, I guess. It's all a matter of taste, and who is to say who is right or wrong (Crystal again). It's what I like about WP in some ways: we are forced to accept that it's not our article and that other people get to edit it to their taste: and mostly they are making it better, I find. At this point, I will just be happy for the FAC to be finished, and am prepared to jump through most hoops (though not all!!) to have it over. Perhaps you feel the same. Hopefully it will be soon! Slp1 (talk) 21:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

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Whippeeee!!!!![edit]

You are in bed no doubt, and when you wake up it will be a bit early for the champagne I am offering you,

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but save it till later since you deserve it without a doubt!! We done it!!! Hurray and well done! Congratulations! Slp1 (talk) 00:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

FA![edit]

Congrats on the William Wilberforce FA! Cheers! Wassupwestcoast (talk) 03:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

William Wilberforce[edit]

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Welcome[edit]

Hi! I just return from vacation when I found your massage. I appriciate this veryu much! and hope to work together!

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Main page[edit]

I am slightly horrified to see that old William will be making the main page on Wed. It couldn't come at a worse time for me, but hopefully you can be being vigilant. Prepare for the onslaught. It is a great honour, and can lead to improvements in the article, but oh my goodness, the vandalism is awful. --Slp1 (talk) 02:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. See this for a humorous view of it. [10]. Actually the vandalism isn't really the problem, as other editors will delete that very quickly. Answering the questions on the talkpage, and reacting for or against more sensible changes in the text is the time-consuming part. But anyway, the pressure leaves after a few days, and there is always time to recoup and consider things later.--Slp1 (talk) 11:37, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, it could have been much worse... must mean we wrote a good article!! Keep watching though, as there is still a link to the article on the main page. When I have a moment I will post something to the talkpage, as I think there are a couple of things worth looking at and discussing: particularly how to phrase the Christianity in India thing (which was a good point), as well as whether we want to do something more general with the towns named after him. The Australian one is just the tip of the iceberg, and if we start going that way, it will be endless.--Slp1 (talk) 15:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

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William Wilberforce & Hendon Park[edit]

Hi Agendum, I noticed you are one of the principal contributors to William Wilberforce. I'd be grateful for your advice on Hendon Park. This article has contained a large amount of nonsense. It refers to Hendon Park as a former home of Wilberforce - which may be true or may be nonsense. The Wilberforce article refers to "Highwood Hill, a more modest property in the countryside of Mill Hill". Could this be the same as Hendon Park? with thanks for any light you may shed Mick gold (talk) 13:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

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Congrats on your semi retirement! I hope you find lots of fun things to do with your time besides spending time here. I still have a yen to improve some of the articles around Wilberforce, including Thomas Clarkson, and Olaudah Equiano but I always seem to have more things I want to do than time to do it! Roll on retirement, I guess!! --Slp1 (talk) 19:26, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

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Saint Catherine's Monastery, Mount Sinai

Vote for the project mascot[edit]

We had last month asked our members to help "bring into the fold" Wikipe-tan as the project's mascot. Voting will take place this month for which image we should adopt at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Wikipe-tan. Please take a moment to review the images and vote for whichever is your favorite, or, if you so prefer, suggest an additional one.

By John Carter

DYK[edit]

  • ...that Anna of Kashin, a Russian medieval princess, was twice canonized as a holy protectress of women who suffer the loss of relatives?


Calendar[edit]

Thie coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.

Featured content and GA report[edit]

Alec Douglas-Home recently achieved FA status. This picture, in the Church of the Month section, was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.

Wikimedia Foundation report[edit]

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Wikisource currently has many old texts available, most of them in the public domain. This is a potentially very valuable source for several things, including for instance links to Biblical verses, because we know that it will, basically, be around as long as we are.

By user:John Carter with inspiration from History2007

Christian art[edit]

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This section would include a rather large image of a specific work of art, with a link to the most directly relevant article.

Suggestion: Resurrection of Christ, an English 15th century Nottingham alabaster. Groups of painted relief panels were sold via dealers to churches on a budget , who had wood frameworks made to hold them locally. From a huge new donation of images from the Walters Art Museum to Commons, see


By Johnbod

Spotlight[edit]

A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian history. Also, a group specifically devoted to the Mennonites and other Anabaptists is now up and running at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Anabaptist work group. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

I believe[edit]

... in the statements contained in the Nicene Creed. I believe that the Bible is one of the two defining bases for belief. The other is the Sacred tradition, which provides us with means of interpreting the Scriptures, as well as some teachings which have been handed on by God outside of the scriptures. I believe that the Magisterium has been empowered to fill this interpretative function. I believe that clerical celibacy is a rule that should generally be followed. I am a member of the Catholic Church.

By John Carter

Help requests[edit]

Please let us know if there are any particular areas, either individual articles or topics, which you believe would benefit from outside help from a variety of other editors. We will try to include such requests in future issues.



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Ichthus: July 2012[edit]

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July 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 336 active members. We would like to welcome User:Emilymadcat, User:Toa Nidhiki05, User:DonutGuy, and User:RCNesland, Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know what you think of the new departments, and if there are any other suggestions for departments you would like to see. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

Church of the month

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by User:JaGa
Mission Santa Clara de Asis

Vote for the project mascot
We had last month asked our members to help "bring into the fold" Wikipe-tan as the project's mascot. Voting will take place this month for which image we should adopt at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/Wikipe-tan. Please take a moment to review the images and vote for whichever is your favorite, or, if you so prefer, suggest an additional one.

By John Carter

Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-July through mid-September) includes days dedicated to the honor of Mary Magdalene, James, son of Zebedee, Ignatius Loyola, Saint Dominic, Joseph of Arimathea, and the Transfiguration of Jesus.

Featured content and GA report
Grade I listed churches in Cheshire was recently promoted to Featured List status. This picture was recently promoted to Featured Picture status. Bartolome de las Casas and Edmund the Martyr were promoted to GA level this past month. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.


Wikimedia Foundation report

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Wikibooks welcomes the development of textbooks of all kinds, children's books, recipes, and other material. It currently has just under 2500 books, including several Wikijunior books for the 12 and under population. There is, at present, not even a book on Christianity. Anyone interested in helping develop such a textbook is more than welcome to do so.

By user:John Carter

Christian art

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The portrait of Sir Thomas More by Hans Holbein the Younger.

By John Carter

Spotlight
A new WikiProject relating directly to Christian history is being developed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christian history. Anyone interested in assisting with the development of these groups and topics is more than welcome to do so.

By John Carter

I believe
... in the tradition of Thomas the Apostle, Mar Addai, and Saint Bartholomew. I believe that Jesus had two essences (or natures), human and divine, unmingled, that are everlastingly united in one personality. I am a member of the Assyrian Church of the East.

By John Carter


Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity August 2012 newsletter[edit]

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ICHTHUS

August 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 341 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:David_FLXD, User:Alexsbecker, User:Penguin 236, User:Gugi001, User:John D. Rockerduck, and User:Margaret9mary. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month

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by User:Diliff
Frauenkirche (Church of Our Blessed Lady) in Munich, taken from the tower of St. Peter's Church


Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Books. Right now, Category:Wikipedia books on Christianity contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Wikipedia books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the main Christianity noticeboard, and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content.

Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. As biographies are often a bit easier, this month we are choosing two biographies: Karl Behm, which has yet to be started, and the currently Stub-class article Nerses IV the Gracious. A barnstar will be awarded to any editor who can get these articles up to DYK quality level and ultimately selected for the DYK section of the main page.


Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-August through mid-September) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Bartholomew the Apostle, Nativity of Mary, and the Exaltation of the Cross.

Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, William de Chesney (sheriff), Knights of Columbus, and Angelus Silesius were promoted to GA level. Our thanks and congratulations to all those involved.


Wikimedia Foundation report

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Wikinews is our sister site for developing news stories. Several events relating to Christianity, like the installation of bishops for instance, do not necessarily merit extensive coverage in wikipedia encyclopedic articles, but can and easily could be covered at greater length in a news article format. Given the number of significant news events that relate to religion, including claims of miracles, assignment of bishops and other religious leaders, church conferences, and other events, this site provides an excellent opportunity to provide in-depth coverage of current events at greater length than wikipedia.


Christian art

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Christ Crucified by Diego Velazquez.


Spotlight

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One of our newer editors, User:David_FLXD, has recently gone through much of our content related to Methodism and assessed it. We are very grateful for his efforts, and that of all the editors who have had a role in developing that content. We have every reason to believe that this will make it significantly easier for the Methodism work group to create and develop content relevant to Methodism. To help that along, we certainly encourage everyone to do what they can to help David and the other Methodism editors to bring the content relevant to their tradition to the highest possible level of quality.


I believe
... in the Holy Trinity, the sacraments of Baptism and Holy Communion, the Arminian conception of free will through God's prevenient grace, and the regular renewal of the individual's covenant with God. I am a Methodist.



Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity September 2012 newsletter[edit]

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ICHTHUS

September 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 344 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Floating Boat, User:Dewey420, and User:Jpacobb. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. We have recently added some new sections to the newsletter. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month

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by User:Diliff
The Chapel of Keble College, Oxford


Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of Wikipedia:Wikipedia-Books. Right now, Category:Wikipedia books on Christianity contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Wikipedia books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the main Christianity noticeboard, and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content.

Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. Last month's challenge articles were Karl Beth and Nerses IV the Gracious. Both articles are currently candidates for the DYK section of the main page. This month's challenge articles are the Stub-class article James Hastings and the not yet started Rudolf Sohm, A barnstar will be awarded to any editor who can get these articles up to DYK quality level and ultimately selected for the DYK section of the main page.


Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-September through mid-October) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of the Martyrs of Korea, Saint Matthew, Vincent de Paul, Michaelmas, Saint Jerome, Theresa of Lisieux, the Feast of the Guardian Angels, Francis of Assisi, Our Lady of the Rosary, and Teresa of Avila.

Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Albertus Soegijapranata, and Reginald Heber were promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Greater Manchester was promoted to Featured List, and Jackie Hudson, Joyce Kilmer, Divine command theory, Bosa of York and Argument from morality were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Church of Saint Benoit, Istanbul, All Saints Church, Hollingbourne, Neustädter Kirche, Hannover, St Mary's Church, Kirkby Lonsdale, Albert Ndongmo, If We Are the Body, List of places of worship in Tonbridge and Malling, Kulubnarti church, All Saints Church, Ulcombe, Val-Saint-Lambert Abbey, Igny Abbey, Church of the Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel, Brăila, Places of Worship Registration Act 1855, Collegiate Church of San Gimignano, and St Matthew's Church, Burnley. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Wikimedia Foundation report

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As some of you may have seen, the Simple English Wikipedia has been experiencing some difficulties lately. This particular entity could be of great value to several individuals who are trying to learn English. As some of you who do speak foreign languages know, one of the most easily available, and, in general, useful learning aids for people is a text they know already, which allows them to focus on the specific words of the new language. Various recorded readings and translations of the Bible are among the best examples of this. Any efforts to try to enhance this vital means of informing a large segment of our readership is more than welcome. People interested in helping develop it are encouraged to leave a note regarding their specific articles of interest at the Christianity noticeboard. It would be wonderful if we could report some significant contributions to this sister site next month. And, of course, if we do have something to report, those involved would receive our greatest thanks.

Christian art

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The Guardian Angel by Pietro da Cortona.


Spotlight

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WikiProject Calvinism is one of our more important subprojects. It is specifically devoted to developing content relating to the Calvinist tradition, and the primary point for development of content relating to the Pilgrims, Presbyterians, Reformed churches, Congregational church, Reformed Baptists, and Low church. We definitely encourage everyone to do what they can to help this project develop the content relating to this extremely important Christian tradition.


I believe
... that human nature is insufficient for salvation, and the grace of God is required to do so. I believe that God has preordained who will and will not achieve salvation. I believe that Jesus's atonement was sufficient for the purposes for which it was done. I believe that God's grace is of such power that it can overcome any person's resistance. I believe that those whom God has chosen for salvation will, by the undeniable power of God, persevere in God's grace. I am a Calvinist.



Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter[edit]

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September 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 347 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Dplcrnj, User:Danmuz, User:Zigzig20s, and User:Jasonasosa. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month

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by User:Taxiarchos228, recently promoted to Featured Image
St. Paul's Church, Basel


Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will be to develop content related to the Christmas season, including Advent and other related topics. Please feel free to see and take part in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard#Contest of the month - Advent/Christmas content.

One of last month's challenge articles, Rudolf Sohm, has been substantially developed by User:Jack1956 and User:StAnselm. Our deepest thanks to both of them!!

Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-October through mid-November) includes All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day and major commemorations dedicated to the honor of the Ignatius of Antioch, Luke the Evangelist, Simon the Canaanite, Saint Jude, the dedication of the Lateran Basilica, the beginning of the Nativity Fast, James of Jerusalem, Reformation Day, and others.


Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Augustinian theodicy by User:ItsZippy was promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Merseyside by User:Peter I. Vardy was promoted to Featured List. The images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status. John Wheelwright by User:Sarnold17, Christmas Party (The Office) by User:Gen. Quon and If We Are the Body by User:Toa Nidhiki05, were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Cathedral of Saint Demetrius, Craiova, by User:Biruitorul, Nerses IV the Gracious by User:John Carter, Church of St Candida and Holy Cross by User:BarretB, St Laurence's Church, Morland by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Mary's Church, Longfleet by User:Bermicourt, Chor von St. Bonifatius by User:Gerda Arendt, St Andrew's Church, Penrith by User:Peter I. Vardy, Holy Rosary Cathedral (Vancouver) by User:Bloom6132, Sacred Heart Cathedral (Kamloops) by User:Bloom6132, St Columba's Church, Warcop by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Oswald's Church, Ravenstonedale by User:Peter I. Vardy, and W. E. Biederwolf by User:John Foxe. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

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Portrait of John Henry Newman by Sir John Everett Millais.
This image was promoted this past month to FM by the work of User:Spongie555. Thank you, Spongie!

Spotlight

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WikiProject Holidays/Christmas task force is the group whose purpose is to help develop the content related to the Christmas season, including Advent, New Year's, and related holidays. As many of us know, in several parts of the world, including the United States, the Christmas season is not only the time of one of the greatest holidays of the Christian liturgical year, but it is also the "make or break" time for many retailers, whose profitability for the year often depends on their success in this time of the giving of sometimes significantly expensive gifts. In other parts of the world, the winter solstice period and sometimes specifically Christmas itself means something that might surprise many Christians, like the Christmas in Japan, where Christmas is one of the times hotels receive the greatest number of, often unmarried, couples staying there for the night. The solstice season is also significant to several other religions. Many of these days are also legal holidays in several places. In Belarus, for instance, both the Western and Eastern Christmas commemorations are legal holidays. We would certainly welcome the members of this project to donate some of their time and talents in the upcoming months to improving this significant content.



Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter[edit]

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November 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 349 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Hayayika and User:Pikachu Bros.. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month

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Saint-Augustin, Paris by User:Saffron Blaze

Recently promoted to Featured Image. Great work!


Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will continue with the Christmas theme, including Advent and other related topics. Please feel free to see and take part in discussion at the Christianity noticeboard.


Calendar
This coming month (mid-November through mid-December) includes the Advent season. Other major feasts are those of Margaret of Scotland, Matthew the Evangelist, Hilda of Whitby, Elizabeth of Hungary, Edmund the Martyr, the Presentation of Mary, Saint Cecilia, Clement of Rome, Catherine of Alexandria, Andrew the Apostle, Francis Xavier, Saint Barbara, John Damascene, Nicholas of Myra, Saint Ambrose of Milan, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, Our Lady of Guadalupe, Lucy of Syracuse, and others.


Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Crucifixion and Last Judgement diptych by, among others, User:Truthkeeper88, User:Ceoil, and User:Kafka Liz and Mitt Romney by User:Wasted Time R were promoted to FA. List of 2000s Christian Songs number ones by User:Toa Nidhiki05 was promoted to Featured List. The two images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status, as were these two images of Michelangelo's Pieta Michelangelo's Pieta 5450 cropncleaned edit.jpg and of Giovanni Bellini's Saint Francis in the Desert Giovanni Bellini - Saint Francis in the Desert - Google Art Project.jpg. Derek Webb by User: Pepsi2786 and others, and Scipione Piattoli by User:Piotrus were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Archdiocese of Râmnic, by User:Biruitorul, Diocese of Caransebeş by User:Biruitorul, Wythburn Church by User:Peter I. Vardy, St. Gumbertus, Ansbach by User:Gerda Arendt, User:Dr. Blofeld, and User:Nvvchar collectively, St. Johannis, Ansbach by User:Gerda Arendt, User:Dr. Blofeld, and User:Nvvchar collectively, Nikollë Bojaxhiu by User:ZjarriRrethues, All Saints Church, Lydd by User:Dr. Blofeld, User:Rosiestep, User:Gilderien, and User:Ipigott collectively, St Mary's Church, Acton Burnell by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Eata's Church, Atcham by User:Peter I. Vardy, Nativity of St. John the Baptist Church, Piatra Neamț by User:Biruitorul, Anna Schäffer by User:Shii, List of Archbishops of Vancouver by User: Bloom6132, James Francis Carney by User:Bloom6132, St Luke's Church, Chelsea by User:PKM and User:Johnbod, Gregory Orologas by User:Alexikoua, Ambrosios Pleianthidis by User:Alexikoua, and St Giles' Church, Barrow, by User:Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

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Three scenes of the legend of the Miraculous Sacrament, in which communion wafers were reported to bleed after being stabbed, in the St. Michael and St. Gudula Cathedral, Brussels by Jean-Baptiste Capronnier.
This image was promoted this past month to FM by the work of User:Alvesgaspar. Thank you, Alvesgaspar!

Spotlight

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The core topics work group is the group whose specific purpose is to help identify and develop those articles which are of greatest importance to an overall understanding of the broad subject of Christianity, based on what is included in the core topics list. These articles include some of specific churches and individuals, history, philosophical and theological matters, and more. We have had some recent discussion regarding which articles should be included in this list, and it probably makes sense to revisit the selections, and try to figure out how best to work to make them high quality articles. Discussion is beginning at WT:X regarding these matters, and all input is welcome.



Help requests
Please let us know if there are any particular areas, either individual articles or topics, which you believe would benefit from outside help from a variety of other editors. We will try to include such requests in future issues.

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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - December 2012[edit]

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December 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 350 active members. We would like to welcome our newest member, User:Harishrawat11. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month

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This image of The Baptistry of Saint John in Pisa by User:NotFromUtrecht

was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!


Contest of the month
As I imagine many of our editors will be editing at a greatly reduced level for the next few weeks, what with the Christmas and New Year's holidays coming, there is no specific content-related contest this month. The contest, if anything, is to make the most of the season, in whatever way, if any, you deem appropriate.


Calendar
This coming month (mid-December through mid-January) includes the Advent season, and one of the two greatest holidays of the Christian year, Christmas. Other major feasts in the next month include those of the Feast of the Epiphany, Baptism of the Lord, Saint Stephen, Thomas the Apostle, Holy Innocents, John the Evangelist, Gregory of Nazianzus, Basil the Great, Saint Genevieve, Elizabeth Ann Seton, and Saint Sava.


Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Anne Hutchinson nominated by User:Sarnold17 was promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Lancashire by User:Peter I. Vardy was promoted to Featured List. The image in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status. Come to the Well by User:Toa Nidhiki05 and others, and Dwight Christmas by User:Gen. Quon and others were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include King's Chapel, Gibraltar, by User:Prioryman, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Albany, New York) by User:Daniel Case, Tingsted Church by User:Ipigott and User:Rosiestep, St. Mary's Church (Albany, New York) by User:Daniel Case, Stubbekøbing Church by User:Ipigott and User:Rosiestep, Notre Dame Cathedral (Phnom Penh) by User:Bloom6132, and St. James' Church, Cardington by User:Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

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The nave of the Parish Church of Urtijëi. This image was created by User:Moroderen. Thank you, Moroderen!

Spotlight

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In the spirit of Christmas, the spotlight for the coming month might actually best be on those people closest to you. We know that a lot of our editors here are associated in some way or another with schools, and many if not most of them are going on rather extended breaks for the holidays. This can give some of us a chance to meet up with old friends, spend time with our families and those close to us, and, in a sense, "recharge" for the new year. So, for all of you who are in some way part of that group, we wish you the very best of holidays. We hope you all return to editing after the holidays with your spirits lifted and with your energies at peak level. There are some small matters in development here as well, and it is our hope that some of them will be ready come the next newsletter. But, until then, we wish you all the happiest and holiest (if appropriate) holidays.


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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - January 2013[edit]

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January 2013

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 354 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Alliereborn, Iselilja, Peterkp, and Sosthenes12. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month

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This image of Alexander Nevsky Cathedral in Tallinn, Estonia by User:Poco a poco

was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!


Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard#Future contests, and would very much welcome any input from interested parties in how to set it up, determine winners including how many winners, etc.

By John Carter




Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, the image in the "Church of the Month" section of this newsletter was promoted to Featured Image status.

Darzu ist erschienen der Sohn Gottes, BWV 40 by Gerda Arendt and others, Teuruarii IV by Lemurbaby, KAVEBEAR and others, and Peace on Earth (Casting Crowns album) by Toa Nidhiki05 and others, were all promoted to GA status.

Also this past month, the DYKs on the main page included St James' Church, Cardington by Peter I. Vardy, Bishop's Palace, Kraków by Poeticbent, Kippinge Church by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Trinitatis Church, also by Ipigott and Rosiestep, Steindamm Church by Olessi, St Laurence's Church, Church Stretton by Peter I. Vardy, Monastery of the Holy Trinity, Meteora, by Peter I. Vardy, Sonrise Church, by Aboutmovies, St. Peter's Episcopal Church (Albany, New York), by Daniel Case, All Saints Church, Claverley, by Peter I. Vardy, and Church of the Holy Virgin Mary of Lourdes, by Poeticbent. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

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The Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel the Elder
This image was created by User:Dcoetzee. Thank you, Dcoetzee!

Spotlight

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The Spotlight this month turns to the the Syriac Christianity work group. The scope of this project includes the various traditions of Syriac Christianity, including the Assyrian Church of the East, Ancient Church of the East, Church of the East, Syriac Orthodox Church, Chaldean Catholic Church, Malankara Orthodox Syrian Church, Melkite Greek Catholic Church, Syriac Catholic Church, Syro-Malankara Catholic Church, and Saint Thomas Christians. One of these groups, the Assyrian Church of the East, is considered by scholars to have probably been, for several hundred years, the largest Christian grouping in the planet, with its numerous members in Central Asia and Eastern Asia. Numerous texts, traditions, and practices unique to these groups exist, including the Jesus Sutras and the belief of the Assyrian Church of the East that the bread they use in the preparation of their Eucharist uses the same basic yeast as that used in the bread of the Last Supper itself. Sadly, given the linguistic barriers to much of the content relative to these groups, and the comparative lack of notoriety they have in the Western world, much of this content does receive less attenion, and thus less development, than much other content. There is a large amount of extremely valuable historical material here still waiting to be adequately developed by editors with an interest in the topic, and I personally very much hope that we can draw more attention to these topics, and the content related to them.

By John Carter


Calendar
This coming month (mid-January through mid-February) includes The Presentation of Christ in the Temple or Candlemas and the Conversion of Paul. Other major feasts in the next month include those of Saint Agnes, Saint Francis de Sales, Saints Timothy and Titus, Thomas Aquinas, John Bosco, Saint Agatha, Paul Miki, [{Saint Scholastica]], and Saint Anskar.


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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter April 2013[edit]

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April 2013

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 357 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Thomas Cranmer, Mr.Oglesby, and Sneha Priscilla. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor

We apologise for the hiatus in the publication of this newsletter due to unforseen circumstances leading to the wikibreak of John Carter, and so I have taken over as acting editor, and have taken this opportunity to move the publication date to the start of each month as planned, to better reflect on the previous month and look ahead to the next. This issue covers the period of time from mid-January to the end of March.

Since the last issue we have seen the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI and the election of Pope Francis. This has received much coverage both in the world media and on Wikipedia. While there is still much work to do, several quality articles have been written and the editors involved are thanked for their efforts.


This month we look ahead to Easter and the celebration of God's love for mankind through the crucifixion and resurrection of his Son Jesus Christ. With that, I wish you all happy reading!

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By Gilderien


Church of the month

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This image of the Church of Saint Ildefonso, Portugal by Poco a poco was recently promoted to Featured Image. Thank you and congratulations for the great image!


Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. I am starting a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Christianity noticeboard#Future contests, and would very much welcome any input from interested parties in how to set it up, determine winners including how many winners, etc.

By John Carter




Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;

Grade I listed churches in Cumbria was promoted to Featured List status, thanks to Peter I. Vardy, and the image above of the Church of Saint Ildefonso was promoted to featured picture status.

Martin Luther King, Jr., by Khazar2, was promoted to GA status, as well Third Epistle of John by Cerebellum.

Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included St Mary's Church, Cleobury Mortimer by Peter I. Vardy; Marion Irvine by Giants2008; Margaret McKenna by Guerillero; Archdiocesan Cathedral of the Holy Trinity by Epeefleche; St Edith's Church, Eaton-under-Heywood by Peter I. Vardy; Vester Egesborg Church by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, and Dr. Blofeld; Undløse Church by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, and Dr. Blofeld; St Martin's Church, Næstved by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, and Dr. Blofeld; St. Peter, Syburg by Gerda Arendt and Dr. Blofeld; Østre Porsgrunn Church by Strachkvas; Church of Our Saviour (Mechanicsburg, Ohio) by Nyttend; Dami Mission by Freikorp; Mechanicsburg Baptist Church by Nyttend; Acheiropoietos Monastery, by Proudbolsahye; T. Lawrason Riggs, by Gareth E Kegg; McColley's Chapel, by Mangoe; Oświęcim Chapel, by BurgererSF; Second Baptist Church (Mechanicsburg, Ohio), by Nyttend; Church of the Holy Ghost, Tallinn, by Yakikaki; Old Stone Congregational Church, by Orladyl Heath Chapel, by Peter I. Vardy; St. Joseph's Church, Beijing, by Bloom6132; Church of St Bartholomew, Yeovilton, by Rodw; and St. Michael's Catholic Church (Mechanicsburg, Ohio) also by Nyttend. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

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Complete recording

Jesus nahm zu sich die Zwölfe, BWV 22, a cantata by the German composer J.S. Bach, was promoted to GA this month and was written by Gerda Arendt. Many thanks for her continuing work in the area of early 18th Century Church music.

Spotlight

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The Spotlight this month turns to the the Jesus work group. The scope of this project includes the life and teachings of the central figure of Christianity, Jesus Christ and aims to write about them in a non-denominational encylopædic style. Top-priority articles include Jesus, Christ, Resurrection of Jesus, and Holy Grail, whereas High-priority articles include Aramaic Language, a former FA, as well as Sermon on the Mount, Lamb of God, and Passion (Christianity). The workgroup has also published two books, covering Christ's final days and the Parables of Jesus. The workgroup has two GAs, Nativity scene, and Jesus in Islam, but unfortunately the flagship article, Jesus was delisted in 2009. It is also responsible for three WP:1.0 articles, and the WikiWork of the project is 4.56, which indicates the "average" article is between Start and C class.


By Gilderien


Calendar
This coming month (end-March through end-April) includes Easter Sunday in Western Christianity and both Lazarus Saturday and Palm Sunday for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Other major feasts in the next month include those of Saint George, Saint Mark the Evangelist, Saint Stanislaus, James, son of Zebedee, and Benedict the Moor.


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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (May 2013)[edit]

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May 2013

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 363 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Pleonic, MJWilliams1998, Iloilo Wanderer, Jkadavoor, Sir Ian and McBenjamin. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. We would be able to achieve nothing here without the input of all of you. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor

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This month we hear the news that the Bible is to be made into a film after outstanding success of a biblical miniseries on the History Channel, and we have seen the release of Iraqi Pastor Ali Hamzah from his confinement in Iraq.

After last month's spotlight on the Jesus work group, the flagship article, Jesus, was nominated for Good Article status after much work from FutureTrillionaire and History2007, and provisionally passed by the reviewer, although they have requested a second opinion. Our many thanks for the hard work that has gone into restoring this article to a quality piece of work.

This month the second largest denomination of Christianity, the Eastern Orthodox Church, celebrates Easter and the death and resurrection of the Son of God Jesus Christ.

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By Gilderien


Church of the month

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Wells Cathedral was this month promoted to GA status. Rodw has appealed for any help project members can give to improve this article for a FA nomination.


Contest of the month
No particular contest this month. I am however getting rather close to getting together a more or less complete set of articles relating to different areas of Christianity which can be found in recent reference sources on the broad topic of Christianity, and about various subtopics, which I hope to have finished in the next few weeks. I wonder what the rest of you might think of, maybe, making the contests of future months be basically directed at filling in the gaps of our existing coverage of topics, like those topics given significant coverage in specialized reference works which we don't yet have content on, and giving the thanks, and rewards, whatever they might be, to those who create and develop such content. By John Carter


Featured content and GA report
Since the last report;

Featured report; Madonna in the Church, by Ceoil, Truthkeeper88, and Johnbod was promoted to Featured Article status. Crucifixion and Last Judgement was promoted to featured picture status, after nomination by Crisco 1492.

Wells Cathedral, by Rodw, Robert of Ghent, by User:Ealdgyth, Christianity in Medieval Scotland, by Sabrebd, and Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, also by Sabrebd were promoted to GA status.

Also these past months, the DYKs on the main page included Lectionary 311, by Leszek Jańczuk; Herr Christ, der einig Gotts Sohn, by Gerda Arendt; Whalsay Parish Church, by Ipigott, Rosiestep, Nvvchar, Dr. Blofeld; Interpretatio Christiana, by Altenmann; First Congregational Church, Salt Lake City, by Orlady; Church of King Charles the Martyr, Royal Tunbridge Wells, by The C of E; First Church in Albany (Reformed), by Daniel Case; Pope Anastasius II, by AbstractIllusions; Iglesia de Nuestra Señora de la Palma, by Dr. Blofeld, Ipigott, Rosiestep; Colan Church, by Rosiestep, Nvvchar, Ipigott; Notre Dame Cathedral, Papeete, Bloom6132, Church of St. Wenceslaus (New Prague, Minnesota), by Elkman; St. Joseph Catholic Church (San Antonio, Texas), by Gilliam; Doubting Thomas, by Johnbod; Robert of Ghent, by Ealdgyth; and Holy Trinity Church, Holdgate, by Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

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This depiction of the Crucifixion and Last Judgement was painted by Dutch artist Jan van Eyck and promoted to Featured Picture this month.

Spotlight

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SPOTLIGHT

This month, we turn our attention to the Encyclopedic articles sub-group, which aims to provide "a collection point for lists of articles contained in other reference sources relating to Christianity, which could serve as a basis for developing our own content". Created by John Carter, it is primarily a list of links, red or otherwise, for subjects which have an article in the reference works listed therein. This serves as a very useful list if any project members are "stuck for what to do" and there remains lots of potential for articles developed from this list.

By Gilderien


Calendar
This coming month (end-April through end-May) includes Easter Sunday for the Eastern Orthodox Church. Other major feasts in the next month include those of Matthias the Apostle, The Venerable Bede, and Empress Helena.


Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)[edit]

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June 2013

From the Editor

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Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.

Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.

From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.

We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.

Church of the month

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The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.

Good articles and DYKs
The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.

Focus on...

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THE
HISTORICAL JESUS

Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.

In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.

The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.

From the bookshelf

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Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 ISBN 0-8028-4368-9

Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.

Did you know...

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  • ... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?

Calendar
The coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.


Help requests
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (July 2013)[edit]

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July 2013

From the Editor

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Welcome to the July 2013 issue of Ichthus. We focus on the chronology of Jesus, as well as looking back at the project content improved over the last month.

WP:X has gained another Featured Article, Gospel of the Ebionites, by Ignocrates. The Gospel of the Ebionites is the name scholars give to an apocryphal gospel that supposedly belonged to a sect known as the Ebionites. It consists of seven short quotations discovered in a heresiology known as the Panarion, written by Epiphanius of Salamis, and its original title remains unknown. The text is a gospel harmony composed in Greek, and is believed to have been written during the middle of the 2nd century.

St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn was promoted to Good Article status, as was two other welsh churches, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, and St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch.

The main page also featured several DYK hooks for articles in our project, namely Bob Fu, List of places of worship in Tandridge (district), Catholic Press, Garendon Abbey, St. John's Episcopal Church (Jersey City, New Jersey), Pargev Martirosyan, Praskvica Monastery, Heather Preceptory, St. Augustin, Coburg, Longleat Priory, St Mihangel's Church, Llanfihangel yn Nhowyn, St Enghenedl's Church, Llanynghenedl, Christianization of Moravia, Christianization of Bohemia, Repton Abbey, St Peter's Church, Llanbedrgoch, Medingen Abbey, Elmhurst Christian Reformed Church, St. James on-the-Lines, and Leopold Karl von Kollonitsch.

Church of the month

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St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery is part of Saint Sophia's Cathedral, Kiev in Ukraine. It is a functioning monastery that dates back to the Middle Ages.

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 367 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, Newchildrenofthealmighty, Evenssteven, Kerna96, and FutureTrillionaire. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


Focus on...

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THE
HISTORICAL JESUS

When did Jesus live? When did he die? How do we know? We do, in fact, have excellent information about the time intervals for the life and death of Jesus. As in other people who lived and died in the first century, this gives an approximate date range, but still, give or take 3-4 years and we have pretty good estimates confirmed by a number of really diverse sources, ranging from inscriptions in Delphi to Roman and Jewish sources. The Chronology of Jesus article discusses how a wide variety of Christian, Jewish and Roman sources are used to establish the time-frame for the life and death of Jesus.

And all of his data fits together. For instance, the chronology of Paul had been discussed based on the Book of Acts long ago, then the Delphi Inscription is found in the 20th century in the Temple of Apollo. And guess what.. it confirms it and totally dates his trial in Corinth, which helps reaffirm the date of the crucifixion of Jesus. The same date range is independently estimated from the writings of Josephus on the Baptist's death. And it fits Isaac Newton's astronomical models for the crucifixion date as well as the independent lunar calculations of Humphreys. As that article shows, all these dates just fit together.

From the bookshelf

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Chronos, kairos, Christos: nativity and chronological studies edited by J. Vardaman, E. M. Yamauchi 1989 ISBN 0-931464-50-1

This two volume book (with a very apt title) is gem-filled with scholarly research. Paul Maier's article in the first volume is a classic study on the chronology of Jesus and provides a useful summary of a number of issues.

Did you know...

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This month (July) contains the feast days of Mary Magdalene, and James, son of Zebedee.



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August 2013 WikiProject Christianity Newsletter[edit]

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ICHTHUS

August 2013

From the Editor

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Welcome to the August 2013 issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter. We focus on the historical Jesus and reflect on the last month.

The project has another featured picture, The ruins of Holyrood Chapel, a digitisation of an oil-on-canvas painting. Our top-importance article, Jesus, has been nominated for Featured Article status, the discussion can be seen here; Knights of Colombus has also been nominated as a FAC.

Ecgbert (bishop) and Church architecture in Scotland have both this month achieved Good Article status.

Our project had several of its articles featured in the main page DYK section, including Hinckley Priory, Little Chapel, St Peter's Church, Ropsley, Chip Ingram, St John the Evangelist's Church, Corby Glen, Great George Street Congregational Church, St Mary's Church, Walton-on-the-Hill and Bunge church.

Our thanks go to all of those who have worked to achieve these article milestones.

Church of the month

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This image, of Maillezais Cathedral and created by Selbymay was this month promoted to featured picture status.

Membership report
We would like to welcome our newest members, Thechristophermorris, Psmidi and Jchthys. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.

Focus on...

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THE
HISTORICAL JESUS

What was Jesus like? What did he preach? Did he claim to be the Messiah? Did he predict an apocalypse? What can we know about him outside a religious context? The Historical Jesus article discusses what can be known about Jesus with various degrees of probability. While scholars agree on the over all flow and outline of Jesus' life (his baptism by John, debated Jewish authorities, healings, and his crucifixion by Pilate) they have built various and diverging portraits of the rest of his life. These range from minimalist portraits that accept very little of the gospel accounts to maximalists who accept most of the accounts as historical.

The portraits of Jesus have at times been unwitting reflections of the researchers themselves, and Crossan once quipped that some authors "do autobiography and call it biography". However, the study of historical Jesus has made one thing clear: there is so much to learn about Jesus that the more one looks, the more there is to discover.

From the bookshelf

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Jesus of Nazareth: An Independent Historian's Account of His Life and Teaching by Maurice Casey 2010 ISBN 0-567-64517-7

In this book Maurice Casey not only draws on his special expertise in the Aramaic traditions and the Q source, but provides a comprehensive review of the various approaches to the historical Jesus.

Did you know...

Calendar
This month we celebrate the feasts of St Lawrence, St Bernard, and St Augustine.



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Quarter Million Award[edit]

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For your contributions to bring William Wilberforce (estimated annual readership: 313,000) to Featured Article status, I hereby present you the Quarter Million Award. Congratulations, and thanks for all you do for Wikipedia's readers! -- Khazar2 (talk) 13:01, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


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Huggle 3[edit]

Hey Agendum! I am Petrb, one of core developers of Huggle, the antivandalism tool, which you are beta testing (according to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Members#Beta_testers). I am happy to announce that Huggle 3 is ready for some testing. You can read more about it at WP:Huggle/Huggle3_Beta. Please keep in mind that this is a development version and it is not ready for regular use. That means you must:

  • Watch your contribs - when anything happens you didn't want, fix it and report a bug
  • Frequently checkout source code and build latest version, we change it a lot

If you find any problem with a feature that is supposed to work perfectly, please let us know. Some features are not ready yet, it is listed in known problems on Huggle3 beta page, you don't need to report these - we know it! So, that's it. Have fun testing and please let us know about any problems, either using bugzilla @ http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ or #huggle connect. Please respond to my talk page, I am not going to watch your talk page. Thank you Petrb (talk) 10:57, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3[edit]

Hey Agendum! I am Petrb, one of core developers of Huggle, the antivandalism tool, which you are beta testing (according to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Members#Beta_testers). I am happy to announce that Huggle 3 is ready for some testing. You can read more about it at WP:Huggle/Huggle3_Beta. Please keep in mind that this is a development version and it is not ready for regular use. That means you must:

  • Watch your contribs - when anything happens you didn't want, fix it and report a bug
  • Frequently checkout source code and build latest version, we change it a lot

If you find any problem with a feature that is supposed to work perfectly, please let us know. Some features are not ready yet, it is listed in known problems on Huggle3 beta page, you don't need to report these - we know it! So, that's it. Have fun testing and please let us know about any problems, either using bugzilla @ http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ or #huggle connect. Please respond to my talk page, I am not going to watch your talk page. Thank you Petrb (talk) 10:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3[edit]

Hey Agendum! I am Petrb, one of core developers of Huggle, the antivandalism tool, which you are beta testing (according to https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Members#Beta_testers). I am happy to announce that Huggle 3 is ready for some testing. You can read more about it at WP:Huggle/Huggle3_Beta. Please keep in mind that this is a development version and it is not ready for regular use. That means you must:

  • Watch your contribs - when anything happens you didn't want, fix it and report a bug
  • Frequently checkout source code and build latest version, we change it a lot

If you find any problem with a feature that is supposed to work perfectly, please let us know. Some features are not ready yet, it is listed in known problems on Huggle3 beta page, you don't need to report these - we know it! So, that's it. Have fun testing and please let us know about any problems, either using bugzilla @ http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ or #huggle connect. Please respond to my talk page, I am not going to watch your talk page. Thank you Petrb (talk) 10:59, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Huggle 3 beta is out - and we need more feedback![edit]

Hey Agendum, how are you? I am Petrb, one of huggle developers, and you are currently subscribed as a beta tester of huggle on meta (meta:Huggle/Members. You may not have noticed, but this week I released first beta precompiled installers for ubuntu and microsoft windows! Wikipedia:Huggle/Huggle3_Beta has all the links you need. So if you can, please download it, test it and report all bugs that is really what we need now. Don't forgot that as it's just a beta it's unstable and there are some known issues. Be carefull! Thank you for helping us with huggle Petrb (talk) 16:16, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Skipp Porteous[edit]

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We need your help testing latest huggle[edit]

Hello,

I am sending you this message because you listed yourself on meta:Huggle/Members as a beta tester. We desperately need attention of testers, because since we resolved all release blockers, we are ready to release first official version of huggle 3! Before that happens, it would be nice if you could test it so that we can make sure there are no issues with it. You can download it packaged for your operating system (see Wikipedia:Huggle/Huggle3_Beta) or you can of course build it yourself, see https://github.com/huggle/huggle3-qt-lx for that. Don't forget to use always latest version, there is no auto-update message for beta versions!

Should you find any issue, please report it to wikimedia bugzilla, that is a central place for huggle bugs, where we look at them. That is i mportant, if you find a bug and won't report it, we can't fix it. Thank you for your work on this, if you have any questions, please send me a message on my talk page, I won't be looking for responses here. Thanks, Petrb (talk) 15:07, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

New huggle 3.1 is going to be released soon[edit]

Hi Agendum, we are to release a new major version of huggle, but we did receive almost no feedback from our beta testing team, which you are a part of (see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Members). It would be of a great help if you could download it (if you have windows, all you need to do is getting http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/files/huggle3.1.0beta.exe and putting it to a folder where you have installed huggle) and test it. You can always get a help with making it @ #huggle connect!

Major changes:

  • Multisite support - you can now log in to unlimited number of wikis in 1 huggle session and get a huge queue of all edits made to these wikis. This is good for smaller projects which gets overlooked often.
  • Ranged diffs - you can select multiple revisions and get a huge diff that display all changes done to them.
  • Fixes of most of bug reports we had so far

In case you found a bug, please report it to bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?product=Huggle&list_id=147663 thank you! Petrb (talk) 10:05, 30 July 2014 (UTC)