User talk:Agnosticaphid

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Thank you[edit]

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Thanks for your recent contributions! 129.49.72.78 (talk) 22:18, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Precious again[edit]

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bold justice
Thank you for dealing with MOS questions, for tireless copy-editing behind the scenes, and for entering a scene with a bold reminder, worded with a sense of justice that even I understand, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

A year ago, you were the 500th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 30 May 2014 (UTC) |}

February 2015 GOCE newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors February 2015 Newsletter
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Drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in January's Backlog Elimination Drive. Of the 38 people who signed up for this drive, 21 copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were able to remove August 2013 from the general copyediting backlog and November 2014 from the request-page backlog. Many thanks, everyone!

Blitz: The February Blitz will run from February 15–21 and again focuses on the requests page. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one request article. Sign up here!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Biblioworm and Philg88.

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GOCE March newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors March 2015 Newsletter
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Blitz: Thanks to everyone who participated in the February Blitz. Of the 21 people who signed up, eight copyedited at least one article. Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: The blitz removed 16 articles from the requests list, and we're almost done with December 2014. Many thanks, everyone!

Drive: The month-long March drive begins in about a week. Awards will be given to everyone who copyedits at least one article from the backlog. Sign up here!

Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Miniapolis, Jonesey95, Biblioworm and Philg88.

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MOS is a guideline, AT is a policy[edit]

  • 19:20, 27 February 2015‎ Agnosticaphid (talk | contribs | block)‎ . . (47,692 bytes) (-266)‎ . . (Undid revision 649119189 by PBS (talk) wary of adding a lonely punctuation rule to WP:AT when WP:MOS expressly states to refer to it bc "WP:Article titles does not contain detailed rules about punctuation.")

It is not "a lonely punctuation rule" see for example "Do not enclose titles in quotes".

See Wikipedia talk:Article titles/Archive 40#RfC on COMMONSTYLE proposal (January 2013) , WT:AT#Stylization of the "common name" (February 2015), Just because the MOS contains an express statement does not mean there is consensus for such a statement -- surly you must know that as you took part in both discussions. The MOS is a guideline, AT is policy and as WP:POLICY says "Policies explain and describe standards that all users should normally follow, while guidelines are meant to outline best practices for following those standards in specific contexts". In this case it is a standard not best practice.

-- PBS (talk) 10:55, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

But telling editors not to end titles with a period is surely a "best practice for following" the article titling standards "in [the] specific context" of what punctuation should or should not be used. Right? The whole section of WP:AT is a bunch of rules for things "used in deciding on questions not covered by the five principles" which actually means the whole list is really more of a guideline than a policy since it's applying the 5 principles to "specific contexts". Also, where do we draw the line with these punctuation rules? Do we put all of the rules in WP:AT? Should we have an extended discourse on whether titles should use an en dash or hyphen? These are all sorts of stylistic considerations involved in titling articles but that's why we have a manual of style, I thought. Finally, a variation on the sentence we're discussing has been in WP:MOS for much longer than three years. AgnosticAphid talk 17:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)