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Using TsorT.info as a source

Hi there. I'm sorry that it's me again to be the bearer of bad news, but I'm afraid current consensus is that TsorT.info is not acceptable as a source for chart information. I added it to the guideline as well. I edited I Need a Man (Eurythmics song) using the proper way to cite charts, for the ones I could find a source but I had to removed unreliable numbers. I'm not sure how much time I'll have to do this for other articles, but in principle I'd be happy to help. --Muhandes (talk) 09:05, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello, I didn't realise as I found the link through wikipedia. The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CHARTS page does have links to official chart pages for countries which may be useful. I'll have a look and see what references can be added Ajsmith141 (talk) 09:41, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Also there are sources on the website itself - http://tsort.info/music/charts.htm Ajsmith141 (talk) 11:40, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Consensus is not to use the site itself as a source. Instead, use the individual sources. See the table I edited at I Need a Man (Eurythmics song) as an example. --Muhandes (talk) 11:59, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Me too, I also said the same thing. You can use Hitparade to source many international charts. Novice7 | Talk 16:47, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rock and Roll Preacher

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Not notable enough as a stand-alone article. Fails WP:NSONG. Information can be included in album's article.

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Actually, please read WP:DEPROD. Anyone can remove a PROD and they don't need to supply a reason. In fact, adding the PROD back is against the policy. --Muhandes (talk) 14:23, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Grrrrr... I completely mis-interpreted the policy. You are correct. **Bangs head on table in ignorance** CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 14:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
All those different deletion methods (WP:speedy, WP:PROD, WP:AfD) are confusing. It happens. Best regards, and I'm sure no harm done. --Muhandes (talk) 14:45, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Apologies to Ajsmith141... With those 3 policies... I mixed them all up and "assumed" the policies were similar if not identical. I had you pegged COMPLETELY wrong. Once again apologies for my over zealousness. CanadianLinuxUser (talk) 14:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hi! I only remove chart without a source. Like this edit.

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--La Bouche 19:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

So, sorry --La Bouche 19:37, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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Charts

I know you mean well, but edits like this are not contributing anything. Listing the website of the chart does not constitutes a source, you will need to specify the specific page in which the listing is made. Also, the number of weeks in the chart should not be listed, per WP:CHARTTRAJ. Again, I know you mean well, but this is not helpful. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 00:16, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

That's much more like it, thanks for attending to these.--Muhandes (talk) 08:33, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

That's ok, best wishes. Ajsmith141 (talk) 08:51, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I noticed you use tsort.info, note that it should not be used as it appears on WP:BADCHART. Also, I'm using reflinks to complete those references. --Muhandes (talk) 11:02, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't tend to use tsort.info as I realise it isn't 100% reliable but it is the only found source for certain countries such as Belgium, Japan and Poland. I have searched for these countries but have found nothing of any use in terms of chart positions. Ajsmith141 (talk) 11:12, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Well, as it is on WP:BADCHART it should be avoided. If you can't find a decent source for a chart peak you can either remove it or tag it for sources. I tend to tag for sources and if no sources are provided for several months I remove it. By the way, I'm not even sure just saying "Belgian Singles Chart" even means anything since there are two such charts, Ultratop 50 (Flemish) for Flanders and Ultratop 50 for Wallonia, it could be either. --Muhandes (talk) 13:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

From what I can see, both Ultratop 40 and Ultratop 50 started during the mid-1990s. There must have been another Belgian chart survey for anything before that period. Ajsmith141 (talk) 14:03, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I see. Well, we probably don't have reliable sources for that chart, we don't even know if it will be acceptable as a chart (many charts are not), so we might as well remove them. --Muhandes (talk) 15:28, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
A quick search has come up with this: ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1422554. Seems to be titled BELGIUM SALES TOP 20 (FLANDERS - WALLONIE). Perhaps both were originally one. I know the given link isn't a reliable source but it does show that there is some charting history, in this case within the top 20. I don't mind either way if they're removed or left for now but I'll see what else I can find. Ajsmith141 (talk) 15:42, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

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Stubs.

Hi, your articles are well-written and well referenced. That was not why I have downgraded some to stubs. I have downgraded because there is absolutely no information about the songs, nothing about the music, the lyrics, critical reception, musicians, recording etc. An article about a song should actually give some detail about the song, if all WP is going to do is list the song with chart placings we might as well merge all the artist's songs into one article and make it part of WP:Charts. FWIW, I am presently going through a list of newly created articles, not checking up on you! Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:17, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

You are completely missing the point. I am not assessing on the song on chart performance. Chart performance makes the song notable, it is NOT the song. Also I do suggest that if you are the major contributor to the article you do not revert me, however, if you think I have been a little too hard (sure, I know I make mistakes) I more than happy to review my assessments and amend as necessary, just drop me a note. If you cannot source more information - which is often the case of pre-internet songs - then they cannot rise above stubs. In future if you just add WPSongs without assessing on articles you have created it would be much better. BTW I shall now create a category for Fergal Sharkey songs, any other cats you want me to create? --Richhoncho (talk) 10:34, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
I have re-assessed the song up, as requested. I think it is borderline, but as its all a matter of opinion, there is no point falling out over it. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

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I note that you did make an addition to the image description page, but did not add a rationale for this use. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • Hello, not 100% sure that what I am doing is correct but I believe I have added another rationale if you could please check, thanks. Ajsmith141 (talk) 19:25, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
    • (responding here) It's adequate by normal routine here, but it's a disappointing rationale; pure copy/paste. Why does it have to be used in two places, rather than referred to from one place? --Hammersoft (talk) 20:08, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure why the media cannot be used in two articles, whilst the song article obviously has the sample, the album article also gives the reader a summary of single samples. An example is the Michael Jackson song Thriller - the sample is used in more than one place: [1]. I also don't see what other rationale text can be used as the sample uses both the same rationale for each article. Ajsmith141 (talk) 20:12, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS arguments don't work because other stuff isn't necessarily following best practices either. Have a read through WP:NFLISTS #4. While that's in a section about lists, the principle applies. If someone really needs to hear the sound sample, they can find it on the song's article. It's not necessary to repeat it elsewhere. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:17, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

I understand WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS but I was simply using it as an example of two seperate rationales and that such a popular song has two seperate rationales without question. Whilst it may not be necessary, the WP:NFLISTS #4 does state that if duplication is used then a separate non-free fair use rationale must be supplied for the image for the new use which has just been done. At the end of the day I don't mind if the song article solely uses the file but I don't see any harm in it being on both. There hasn't been any questions about it since the file was first in late December last year. Ajsmith141 (talk) 20:25, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

  • And, incorrect things hanging around a long time doesn't lend legitimacy to them either :) I think it best to remove it from the article that's not specifically about the song. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:29, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
I agree the clips should only be used once, to serve an encyclopedic purpose, which is to inform the reader, but also satisfy minimal use. The logical place seems to be in the song articles, not the album. Franamax (talk) 22:54, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Slade

With respect, how does Sonny Boy Williamson II become Sonny Boy Williams ? Also please check the early song titles in the article such as "Security", "You Better Run" and "Evil Witchman", which presently do not have the "" (quotation marks). I am presently re-reading Noddy's autobiography, Who's Crazee Now?, which may supply further references when I finally get round to it. Cheers,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 20:21, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello, sorry the name should read Sonny Boy Williamson II anyway and not Williams. I have changed this now and will add some quotation marks. Thanks. Ajsmith141 (talk) 07:12, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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Tell me how a song charting for only 8 weeks is notable. There's no critical reception, nothing to state except its B-side. So little info on it is verifiable, and most of the sources are YouTube or fansites. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 13:14, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Discussion here. I just don't feel that the song's notable given its very brief chart run and outright lack of you know, actual content. The article just restates what's in the infobox. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 13:21, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, looks like consensus is against you. Either prove that there are sources to build up the article, or let it be merged. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:36, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the reply re: Breakwater Lighthouse. There was certainly a article and pic on the Portlanders.co.uk; webpage on this lighthouse. Haven't had time to re-check, as we have folks here for dinner. Hope you can find this info? With best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 18:54, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
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Isle of Portland

Thank you for all your contributions on articles on the Isle of Portland. Could I suggest a further article could be the two Portland Windmills, located between Easton and Weston. They are some of the oldest buildings on the island and in the case of the northern mill in a sad state of repair. Certainly Geoof Kirby has reference to them and also general windmill sites on the internet. I very much regret that, at the moment, I've not the time to initiate a new article - but certain think they are worth a mention. What is your view? Regards, David David J Johnson (talk) 15:46, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

  • Many thanks for your reply. I look forward to seeing the new article. If I can be of any assistance, please let me know. Regards, David David J Johnson (talk) 19:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
    • Thanks so much for a great article. I have, however, changed the captions - as they were wrong. My only other comment is that the Northern Windmill (Angel Mill) does look slightly better than the photo - the ivy having been either blown or taken down. So it is possible to see the tower better. It does concern me that no-one seems to want to know about their condition, especially as they are some of the oldest buildings on the island. Anyway, thanks for all your efforts and best regards, David David J Johnson (talk) 16:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
      • Give me a shout when you're next on the island. Regards,David J Johnson (talk) 18:06, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Portland Breakwater Fort

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Hey Ajsmith141; I'm dropping you this note because you've used the article feedback tool in the last month or so. On Thursday and Friday the tool will be down for a major deployment; it should be up by Saturday, failing anything going wrong, and by Monday if something does :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:32, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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Hi!

I thank you so much for improving the articles Elstree (song) and Clean, Clean. I was wondering you improve the article Living in the Plastic Age and see if any info could be added to the article I just created, I Love You (Miss Robot). Thanks. EditorE (talk) 01:09, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: Re: Hi!

Thanks. I planning to get these Buggles articles to get up to GA status, and I'm hoping the Buggles became a Good Topic on Wikipedia. I don't think the notability is really a problem in the article I Love You (Miss Robot) because, as long as the song has "been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label.", which it does, it follows the criteria in WP:NSONG, and yet I think it's good enough to be a good article. EditorE (talk) 11:45, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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It's felt like a while since I've talked to you. You may remember improving those Buggles articles, and I thank you so much for doing that. I was wondering if we could start working together on some music articles. I was also seeing you can complete and improve the article Inspiration (William Hung album), because it appears that there's info in the 40-mintue DVD documentary as well some reviews I've put on the article that you could use to improve this article. I wasn't able to buy the DVD, so I was wondering if you could to improve this article. I'm hoping you have time to improve the other Buggles song articles, On TV (song) and Adventures in Modern Recording (song), as well as add more info to Living in the Plastic Age. Have a great day. EditorE (talk) 14:49, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey Ajsmith141

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:13, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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