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WikiProject Java

Hello Alainr345.

You have been invited to join WikiProject Java, a WikiProject dedicated to improving the Java-related articles on Wikipedia. You received this invitation due to your interest in, or edits relating to or within the scope of the project or the Java Portal. If you would like to join or just help out a bit, please visit the project page, and add your name to the list of project members.

You may also wish to add to your userpage:
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Java/Userbox}}
and to the top of your talk page:
== WikiProject Java (announcements) ==
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Announcements}}

Know someone who might be interested? Please pass the message to others by pasting the code in their talk page:
== WikiProject Java and Portal ==
{{subst: Template:WikiProject_Java/Welcome|~~~~}}

Thanks,
 A l a i n  R 3 4 5
 Techno-Wiki-Geek
21:44, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


WikiProject Industrial design

Hello Alainr345.

You have been invited to join WikiProject Industrial design, a WikiProject dedicated to improving the Industrial design-related articles on Wikipedia. You received this invitation due to your interest in, or edits relating to or within the scope of the project or the Design Portal. If you would like to join or just help out a bit, please visit the project page, and add your name to the list of project members.

You may also wish to add to your userpage:
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Industrial design/Userbox}}
and to the top of your talk page:
== WikiProject Industrial design (announcements) ==
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject_Industrial design/Announcements}}

Know someone who might be interested? Please pass the message to others by pasting the code in their talk page:
== WikiProject Industrial design and Design Portal ==
{{subst: Template:WikiProject_Industrial design/Welcome|~~~~}}

Thanks,
--  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
19:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)



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WikiProject Java (announcements)[edit]

  • NEW! The meaning of all this is that the 'startup' phase of the Java project is finished. The project now switches to its 'mature' phase. I encourage you to put your name in the todo page after one of the remaining Pictogram voting comment.svg tasks. You can also aim to be Coordinator if you so desire. (2010-05-13)
  • Great day kids! All 1482 Java pages are now importance-assessed. From now on, let's increase article quality! (2010-05-11)
  • We reached another important milestone: all 1450 Java pages are now quality-assessed. Let's finish importance assessment! (2010-04-25)
  • Hello guys and dolls, good news! Our second Cleanup listing is now available. So, no more excuses for laziness, let's get to work, all of us... (2010-03-24)
  • Totally awesome news! Our project was featured in this edition (2010-03-08) of the Wikipedia Signpost (2010-03-09)
  • Big news again, we now have 300 images within the project scope with more to come soon! (2010-03-02)
  • Last month ranking stats for the WikiProject Java articles is here. (2010-02-01)
  • Current monthly ranking stats for the WikiProject Java articles is here. (2010-01-01)
  • Hello guys and dolls, good news! Our first meaningful Cleanup listing is now available. (2009-12-11)
  • Hello everybody! Now that we are at least 5 members, we are able to officialize this thing. Don't you think it would be great if each one of us proudly displayed his membership by placing the Java Userbox on its user (or talk) page... (2009-10-23)
  • Hi supporters of the WikiProject Java! And thanks for your support. Now that we are more than 5 supporters, I gather from the Wikipedia guidelines that we CAN proceed with the groundwork, for releasing the project and portal in the open soon. To that effect, we would appreciate it very much if you could copy your name in the List of participants page. (2009-10-23)
  • All members of WikiProject Java are urged to install the Centralized Announcement System on their talk page. (2009-10-23)



WikiProject Industrial design (announcements)[edit]

  • NEW! The meaning of all this is that the 'startup' phase of the ID project is finished. The project now switches to its 'mature' phase. I encourage you to put your name in the todo page after one of the remaining Pictogram voting comment.svg tasks. You can also aim to be Coordinator if you so desire. Thank you again and see you around, --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 05:54, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
  • Great day kids! All 2022 ID pages are now importance-assessed. From now on, let's increase article quality! (2010-05-20)
  • NEW! We reached another important milestone: all ID pages are now quality-assessed. Let's finish importance assessment! (2010-04-15)
  • Hello guys and dolls, good news! Our first meaningful Cleanup listing is now available. (2010-03-24)
  • Auto-assessment is finished: 1719 pages are now assessed. We now move in the manual edit mode phase of the project as of... TODAY. So, no more excuses for laziness, let's get to work, all of us... (2010-03-20)
  • Big news again, we now have 1000 images within the project scope with more to come soon! (2010-03-04)
  • Current monthly ranking stats for the WikiProject Industrial design articles is here. (2010-03-01)
  • Good news team: the first automated tagging yielded 530 articles for the project, let's grow this number! (2010-02-14)
  • Hello everybody! Now that we are at least 5 members, we are able to officialize this thing. Don't you think it would be great if each one of us proudly displayed his membership by placing the Industrial design Userbox on its user (or talk) page... (2010-01-24)
  • Hi supporters of the WikiProject Industrial design! And thanks for your support. Now that we are more than 5 supporters, I gather from the Wikipedia guidelines that we CAN proceed with the groundwork, for releasing the project and portal in the open soon. To that effect, we would appreciate it very much if you could copy your name in the List of participants page. (2009-12-31)
  • All members of WikiProject Industrial design are urged to install the Centralized Announcement System on their talk page. (2009-12-23)




WikiProject Java and Portal (sections)[edit]

I recently posted the following text on this sexy page regarding the creation of a new computing-related project in Wikipedia:

'WikiProject Java is a Wikipedian community that aims to better organize information in articles related to the Java programming language and its platform.

  • If I'm cor-rec-to, there are about 900 articles on Java technology in Wikipedia, which may be more than ALL other programming languages articles combined...
  • At least, it's more than for C++, and there IS a C++ WikiProject...
  • And it's MUCH more than the .NET WikiProject with 82 articles...
  • There is also a Python project and a Ruby project so...
  • Now you can also see a proposal for the Java Portal (temp location).'

Please support this initiative, --Alainr345 (talk) 03:55, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

FYI, I added a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Java on the Template:WPComputing sidebar sidebar. — Loadmaster (talk) 18:06, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


Java WikiProject messages[edit]

You could have a wonderful future as a beat poet. :) --Cybercobra (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2009 (UTC)


Portal Java and WP Java[edit]

I added one or two comments at Talk WP and Talk Portal.

  • As a lot of the templates, and concepts you have started are sound and you have a good grasp on the wiki mark up Be bold and put them into article space rather than user sand box space...Bo for it!!! You will get more editors helping once you have a functioning preliminary draft up and running in real space away from your user page. Use the sand box to get it working and to see that all the i's are dotted and t's are crossed, once it operates, take it out of your personal user space, and stick it in the real world of wikipedia. You are doing very well.
  • Remember to make an award for editors helping out on articles or a barnstar for fellow contributors to give each other a pat on the back using user talk page templates ...WP awards .

Kind Regards, and all the best and your ventures, it looks like you will have a lot of fun with it!!!

I will support your initiative, as it is always helpful to get articles organised and provide guidance for article content in WP and showcase finer content in Portals and quality with members who have expertise in the area. Thank you for contacting meSriMesh | talk 17:05, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the boost. I acted on the Award front. I will release the Portal as soon as there are at least 5 participants on the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java page... AlainR345TechnoWikiGeek 05:22, 19 October 2009 (UTC)


Java logo in templates[edit]

Hi. Image:Java logo.jpg (claimed public domain) was listed here at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files. Since it is superfluous to Image:Java logo.svg, its only use was in the WikiProject Java templates that you created. So that they would not be left blank, I replaced them with Image:Wave.svg. I hope this isn't too annoying. Unfortunately, Wikipedia's current fair use policy would not cover the use of a copyrighted logo outside articles anyway, but Duke isn't too bad. • Anakin (talk) 16:00, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Well I thank you for the notice and care you took in REPLACING the image (instead of mopping it like the last guy), but still it is NOT OK. As you know damn well, a project does not have the SAME logo as its portals and that's to avoid mixing things too much. In any case I found a logo thats 100000% FREE, but I thing that policy is bull...
--  A l a i n  R 3 4 5
 Techno-Wiki-Geek
18:29, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Note: On reflexion, I DO understand the policy; what I DON'T understand is why it took 2 years to spot that File:Java_logo.jpg is not FREE (if it's not)...
It guess it wasn't spotted because it wasn't used. There are a lot of junk files sitting around. I'm pretty sure the coffee cup logo is non-free. http://java.sun.com/logos/ lists a number of official Java logo variations, and they explicitly point out that Duke is open sourced, whereas they don't for the don't for the others. • Anakin (talk) 21:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)


Help[edit]

Hi AR!! Need some clarification what exactly to be done on Did you know Did_you_know subpage page. If you could help me to give some hint to complete the task will be appreciated. It will be my pleasure to work with you on this project. KuwarOnline (talk) 17:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Vinod, you can call me Alain or Al... Regarding the DYK subpage, I think you can put whatever you feel that is even remotely connected to the portal subject... But first I'll tell you what little I know about DYK in general:
  • The DYK concept in portals seem to derive mainly from the same in Main_Page
  • When designing the Java Portal, I took our current DYK 'as is' from Portal:Technology
  • I think item 1 and 3 in our DYK are relevant enough for the time being...
  • The main source of DYK material in Wikipedia is Wikipedia:Recent_additions
    • There, if you Search archives for Java, you will find nothing relevant unfortunately
    • If you search for something like "programming" or "software" (with the ""), I think that's the nearest you are from Java
  • You may find other ideas in DYK of Portal:Software and Portal:Information_technology
  • Obviously you can find ideas elsewhere, as long as they are corroborated by some text in Wikipedia
  • 4 to 8 DYK items are enough for now I guess
  • As said before, I will move the whole portal to its official site tonight (Tuesday at 3 UTC) so beware of your edits. Good luck, --  A l a i n  R 3 4 5
     Techno-Wiki-Geek
    19:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)


Hi I have updated the DYK Page sorry forgot to login while doin editing anyways tell me what is next priority task to do so i can help on it. KuwarOnline (talk) 06:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Vinod, good job; I just want to point 2 things 1) it's better not to put the _ character in links (for example put [[Java (platform)]] not [[Java_(platform)]]); 2) beware of the link [[Java]]; it points to the island of Java in Indonesia! You must put either [[Java (platform)]] or [[Java (programming language)]] depending on the context.
The tasks are listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Java/Things you can do/to do. If you have some time, you could take a look at
  1. create Selected_biography/3 subpage (PYNHAGFIP)
  2. create Selected_biography/4 subpage (PYNHAGFIP)
  3. create Selected_biography/5 subpage (PYNHAGFIP)
  • possible names: Bill Joy, Erich Gamma, Michael Kölling, Patrick Naughton, Todd Greanier, etc.
Look at Portal:Java/Selected_biography/1 and Portal:Java/Selected_biography/2 for two different ways of doing it.
--  A l a i n  R 3 4 5
 Techno-Wiki-Geek
18:35, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi Alain, just wanted know about uncategorized article. I saw some of the article which i marked as good candidate its been re-tagged to bad candidate, In some cases its fine but with some exception like Serialization,Reflection (computer science), Application programming interface and so on....its all used in java. This is general term and we achieve this things in Java to solve certain issue/problem while developing softwares/application. So my opinion to re-tag them back to good candidate. So just wanted know about ur opinion. KuwarOnline (talk) 07:25, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi again Vinod, sorry for the delay. I understand your concern and it MAY be valid... but I don't think so personally. Let's take Reflection (computer science) for instance. Is Reflection used in Java? Certainly it is. Is reflection a mostly exclusive concept of Java? If you look at that article, you will see examples in Java, BUT also in C# or in PHP, ect. Now, if you look at the categories for that article (at the end of the page), do you see a C# tag or a PHP tag? nop. You see only a Programming paradigm tag. Now another example, is IBM_WebSphere a good candidate? yep, because when one talks about Websphere, one cannot avoid but talk about Java (that's why we classified it as Good and then did put a Java category on the article page). When you look at List_of_shopping_malls_in_India, would you put a Category:Mumbai on it? I would not. I therefore maintain my opinion, the one that is expressed at the beginning of the Uncategorized page.
  1. Good candidates articles are those that document a topic that pertain MOSTLY to the Java platform or programming language.
  2. Articles that make a mention of the word Java but talk MOSTLY about something else are probably Bad candidates (including Disambiguation pages).
  3. Articles written about a piece of free software which is related to Java just because it is written in Java can be classified as Good dependinng on your judgment.

Hope this helps clarify things a bit, --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 17:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Good point Alain!!!! KuwarOnline (talk) 11:46, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

verify[edit]

Hi Alain I have linked biography3,4 and 5 please verify and let me know if anything more can be done on these biography. KuwarOnline (talk) 18:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Hello Vinod, good start; on a purely personal note, I was astonished about that Indian guy that co-founded Sun! Now, there is a bit more work to do I think. First of all, we want the portal to be a slick representation of Java on Wikipedia. In theory it will be accessed by both Java techies and other people too. So, if you look at Portal:Java/Selected biography, you see that the #3,4,5 bios are full of details (categories, templates, stubs, sorting, inter-wiki languages, References, See also, External links, etc.) that are not in #2, although you used the same transclusion technique I did! And you say: 'How is it so?' Then I invite you to take a closer look at the Kent Beck article and familiarize yourself with the <noinclude> tag. At that point you see what you have to do... When done, please edit the main Portal:Java page to put a 5 instead of 2 in the 'Random portal component' related to biographies. Then when you 'purge server cache' hopefully you see your changes on the Portal... Good luck,
--  A l a i n  R 3 4 5
 Techno-Wiki-Geek
22:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi Alain, Please check biography 3 I just did one for sample if it looks fine then i'll go with other's too. KuwarOnline (talk) 19:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
OK, that's another way (I just removed the unlinked ref tag). I immediately placed it on rotation by modifying the Portal main page. You can finish 4 and 5 if you like. Bye now Vinod, AR 3 November 2009
Hi Alain, I have updated biography4 and 5, it looks fine still just have glance over it. I m wondering cant we create more biography,, I mean more than 5. KuwarOnline (talk) 04:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Great work. Of course we can have as many biographies as we want on the Portal! On the other hand, if you feel up to the task I think working on more quote, sound or video subpage content would be more urgent: I think I read the recommended minimum for random rotation on portal boxes is 5. You may have to go outside of Wikipedia (or even outside of Wikimedia) to find something. In any case Vinod, could you please put this on your talk page as a member of the team:
==WikiProject Java (announcements)==
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Java/Announcements}}<!---->
--  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
05:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure Alain!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by KuwarOnline (talkcontribs) 17:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
OK, thanks Vinod. Forget about the quotes, sounds and videos subpages, I did them now, as I saw you were into the articles subpages, which is great; if you can finish the 8 (maybe Sun), 9 (maybe Applet) and 10, we can launch the Portal and go about the main business of the WikiProject Java which is after all the "List/Tag/Assess/Write/Maintain" motto...
--  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
09:13, 14 November 2009 (UTC)


Reply[edit]

I thought the user was a member of the project. Sorry for the misunderstanding. However, the issue is simple. Two users including yourself objected the assessments from the articles, both which were categorized under Category:Articles with example Java code. I already asked if the WikiProject Java wanted the articles in that category, but I did not receive back a thorough reply. If the articles in that category should not be assessed under WP Java, I can easily remove the assessments. I still await consensus on that. ZooFari 03:08, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I think you don't need further reply, and don't loose sleep over it my friend. Each case in that category Category:Articles with example Java code is different. I saw the 2 contentious articles were already 'undone', and if any other odd case arises in the future in that category, we will resolve them on the spot. For me you should consider the case closed. Thanks, --  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
03:17, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


Re: WikiProject Java template[edit]

Eh, don't worry about it. The editor wasn't rude or anything, his position just didn't seem to jive at all with my (from what I can tell, correct) understanding of the WikiProject system. --Cybercobra (talk) 03:30, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


WikiProject Java[edit]

What the heck is this? [1] Perhaps not a good idea to put something like that in a WP recruitment note? I was the second supporter for the Java WikiProject. [2] I've unfortunately not been able to put in the time I'd planned on the project just yet but once this is resolved I'll be able to get to work on some of this stuff. --Tothwolf (talk) 01:30, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough; we'll see if the s h a r k s get you. If not, the first step would be putting your name here, thanks,
--  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
21:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I don't tend to add my username to such lists, the very reason for which is linked above.
As for class= for {{WPBannerMeta}}, I guess you are unfamiliar with how it functions? The class parameter is required for the WP1.0 statistics Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Java articles by quality statistics. The class= parameter adds the article's talk page to the categories that are used to generate the WP1.0 statistics. The few articles I went ahead and set the class= parameter on are those that are now in the chart. I plan to put in a bot request once I get some other backlogged tasks completed and see if we can get about 90% of the articles auto-assessed using the class parameter from existing banner templates.
I eventually plan to phase out the TF hook stuff, but I saw many articles already using java= for {{WikiProject Computing}} while working on that banner template so I went ahead and implemented it.
(PS, it is easier for me to keep up with a discussion when it isn't split across multiple talk pages.) --Tothwolf (talk) 05:09, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Btw, I just happened to notice you'd added a comment here. [3] Technically that page shouldn't be modified once a case is in progress except by a clerk or arb, so a clerk may remove your comment. This page is the active one, although it is starting to get a bit late to add to that one as well. --Tothwolf (talk) 06:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Re: [4] no, the {{WikiProject Computing}} template does not share its class parameter with the {{WikiProject Java}} template. The Mediawiki template "language" has basically no concept of variables and it lacks any sort of string functions. The TF code I added to {{WikiProject Computing}} allows for limited use of {{WikiProject Computing}} in place of {{WikiProject Java}} given the proper parameters, but |class= is still required for {{WikiProject Java}} to function correctly and to be able to categorise articles for the articles by quality/importance stats generation. --Tothwolf (talk) 20:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)


I moved this interesting discussion here where it belongs.


Java WikiProject[edit]

Hi Alain,

You invited me to join. While I was quite active in the Java pages several years ago (did some fairly significant clean ups, reorgs and new content development), I'm no longer active on Wikipedia. Occassionally I still contribute to the poker probability articles that are mostly my work, but other than that I don't have the time. I wish you well.

(Since the comment you left on my talk page is more than two months old, I moved the conversation here.)

Doug Bell 22:26, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


Thanks[edit]

Your recent edit to GNU Compiler Collection was really helpful; see Talk:GNU Compiler Collection#Dead link re optimization. Thanks again, CWC 13:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Well that's strange, but your message prompted me to go back to that edit history and see from what you did after (putting the right title) that I still have things to learn in Wikipedia (don't we all...), and I thank you for that also Chris.
--  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
04:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)


WQA[edit]

Hello, Alainr345. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. SpitfireTally-ho! 13:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


File:Dukesource125.gif[edit]

I appreciate your attempts at finding a free license equivalent for File:Java logo.svg. However, the source page that you reference does not contain any verbiage to the effect that this file has been released under Creative Commons 3.0, nor do the subsequent pop-up windows when you click on an image. It does contain terms of use, which do not reference Creative Commons.

As such, I've tagging the image as missing evidence of permission, making it subject to deletion in seven days. This is to give you an opportunity to find the appropriate release statement from Sun that this is in fact available under Creative Commons. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Apparently I don't know how to read (thank you for informing me) because I can find no mention of Creative Commons on the link you provided or the pop-up windows indicating terms of use. I do find:

All articles, text, graphics, audiovisual and other content items ("Works") of Sun Microsystems are copyrighted and/or licensed by Sun Microsystems, Inc. ("Sun"). Parties outside of Sun may not reprint or redistribute Sun's Works in any format, whether online or offline, or translate such Works to another language, in whole or in part, without the express permission of Sun.

Perhaps you can point to the explicit language that indicates this image was released under Creative Commons 3.0? --Hammersoft (talk) 21:10, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
I also note that the terms of use on the Sun pop-window notes "This license is revocable at any time at Sun's sole discretion", which directly contravenes Creative Commons 3.0. It is blatantly obvious Sun has not released this image under Creative Commons 3.0. This is a candidate for speedy deletion under criteria for speedy deletion, files #9. I'll give you an opportunity to respond with a link to the proof that this has been released under the license you claim rather than immediately tagging it for speedy deletion. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


Ya, you're right (as always), the problem is that I did not SEE the damn pop-up because Sun does not prevent right-clicking on that page (bad websters they've got)! I changed the info on the image. Where you're wrong(!) is that I don't care for a free license, as it is not included on the Java portal...
--  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
22:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)


Comment removed[edit]

Hello Alainr345. I've removed this comment for two reasons. Firstly, that area is for comments made before the case opened. Secondly, you deliberately doctored the date on the time stamp to read as if it was made before the case opened, when in fact it was made today. The second point is slightly more serious and I urge you not to deliberately attempt to deceive like you did then. If you have any comments to make, please direct them to the proposed decision talk page. Regards, Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 11:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

It appears I was wrong about the second point - you were merely reinserting a comment that you made earlier and there was clearly no bad faith on your behalf. Please accept my apologies. That said, just so you're aware for the future, the main case page and additional statements section should only be for statements made prior to the case opening. If you wish to comment on the case now, please do so at proposed decision talk page. Regards, Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 16:24, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


i think your sig is too big[edit]

per WP:Sig, i think your sig is too big and conspicuous. although it's not up to me, since i'm not an admin, i wonder if you could make it the same size as everyone else's? that way it won't take up as much space. you are free to use your sig however you want on your own talk page, of course. i am talking about on other pages. Theserialcomma (talk) 21:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


I think it's no more 'conspicuous' than this one: ╟─TreasuryTaginspectorate─╢


, that one: Abce2|Free lemonadeonly 25 cents!


or that other one: Sincerely, Street-Legal Sockpuppet Jack Merridewthis user is a sock puppet...


In any case, I just changed mine because the <br/> in it was causing me formatting problems. Hope you sleep better tonight... --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 23:58, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
i slept great last night. thanks! your sig in places like here [[5]] is still what i would consider a bit disruptively conspicuous. you might want to ask an uninvolved admin for an opinion on the matter if you are going to continue taking up all that space and extra bandwidth for a signature in places other than your userspace. Theserialcomma (talk) 20:23, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you did not sleep enough, that signature is historical... Bye now, --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 20:38, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
i would appreciate if you would stop with your lame personal attacks. your unproductive comments about my sleep, or lack thereof, are irrelevant to constructing or maintaining an encyclopedia. however, a legitimate issue is that your vainglorious signature takes up too much space and bandwidth. i hope you will cull your superfluous sig in the future (its fine in your userspace, of course) and continue working on the encylopedia. cheers! Theserialcomma (talk) 21:41, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


WikiProject Java Again[edit]

Hi. Just responded to your Java project note. I currently have a lot of free time between programming contracts, so I'm happy to contribute, but I'm not sure what stage the project is at right now. Can you bring me up to speed, cheers? M3TA(info) @ 19:48, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

response[edit]

Category:Unreferenced BLPs: 45,634

See this section to get a bot for your project: Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Biographies_of_living_people#A_Bot_already_exists_to_inform_projects Okip (formerly Ikip) 17:33, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


Signpost Article[edit]

Hi Alainr345. WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Java for a Signpost article to be published February 22. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? -Mabeenot (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

If you'd like to be in the interview, the questions can be found here. Answer as many as you feel comfortable answering. If there is anything else you'd like mentioned in the article, feel free to leave a note at the bottom of the interview page. -Mabeenot (talk) 22:33, 18 February 2010 (UTC)



WikiProject Industrial Design and Portal (sections)[edit]

I recently posted the following text on this unsexy page regarding the creation of a new Visual Arts/Technology-related project in Wikipedia:

WikiProject Industrial design is a Wikipedian community that aims to better organize information in articles related to Industrial design (also called Product design). Right now, this topic is not well covered, being squeezed in between its Visual Arts and its Technology roots.

  • If I'm cor-rec-to, there are about 1850 articles on Industrial design in Wikipedia...
  • At least, it's more than for Typography, and there IS a Typography WikiProject...
  • And it's more than the Fashion WikiProject with 482 articles...
  • There is also an Urban studies and planning project and a Video games portal so...
  • Now you can also see a proposal for the Design Portal. (that portal would be for Industrial design AND Graphic design/Interior design)

--  Alain  R 3 4 5 
Techno-Wiki-Geek
03:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)


I just joined the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Industrial_design initiative, kudos for the idea
Ed Mercer (talk) 21:32, 26 December 2009 (UTC)


Alain, sorry it took me so long to get back to you, I was hospitalized for surgery. I have no idea what I can do to contribute, but I'm here for the long haul, so just let me know what's needed, specially in the product design area. Ed Mercer (talk) 16:27, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi again Eduardo. I hope your health is now good. Schluum is working on the List of uncategorized articles and Intelligentsium on the Portal. Until we get our Cleanup listing and Project tags, I think the best you can do now is take a look at the New articles page: you have to check each article in the list and determine if it is really related to Industrial design as a category; if it is, you tag it with the most precise subcategory. By the way, could you please put these two tags in your talk page:
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject Industrial design/Userbox}}
{{Wikipedia:WikiProject_Industrial design/Announcements}}
Muito obrigado, --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 08:34, 13 February 2010 (UTC)


Prod removed from User:AlexNewArtBot/IndustrialPlatformLog[edit]

I have replaced the prod tag you placed on User:AlexNewArtBot/IndustrialPlatformLog with a {{db-g6}}. Prod is for use on articles rather than user pages. I believe that deletion is uncontroversial and can be completed quickly. Cnilep (talk) 18:51, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks, I knew something did not fit, but did not know which other tag to put; now I'll know... --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 17:59, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar[edit]

Hi there, I just noticed the barnstar you left on my user page. Thanks! I did want to point out, though, it's generally preferred that you leave it on the talk page, not put it there yourself. That's why it took me so long to notice! Anyway, thanks again! --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 02:18, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Industrial design[edit]

Oh well, I've been inactive for a looong time, so prolly wasn't the best choice anyway :) Snowolf How can I help? 10:59, 11 March 2010 (UTC)



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Your recent edits[edit]

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Robert Giguère sur Wiki français[edit]

Je constate que les Ayatollah n'interviennent pas uniquement dans la version anglaise de Wikipedia.

Je vous suggèrerais bien de contester cet abus, mais je crois que vous y perdriez beaucoup de temps et d'énergie.

Je vous suggère plutôt de préparer cette page dans votre «Bac à sable» puis de la renommer lorsqu'elle sera prête (état similaire à celle en anglais) pour une première publication. Je vous recommande aussi d'intéresser au préalable autant de contributeurs qu'il vous sera possible afin qu'ils l'édite aussitôt que possible. --Jazzeur (talk) 04:12, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


March 2009[edit]

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Assessment of the article Peter Saville (artist)[edit]

Hi. I just want to say that is not that dificult to fin the proper project, you just have to go to the basics, in this case i think the proper project you are looking for is Wikipedia:WikiProject Arts, or perhaps some of its sub-projects. I hope it helps if not, don`t hesitate to ask for help. Zidane tribal (talk) 21:29, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I assessed the article. The quality assessment should be the same for every project (WP:1.0/A says: "Unlike the quality scale, the priority scale varies based on the project scope.") You can request reassessment if you think the rating should be better. Normally you can assess articles to which you are not the main contributor with no problem, simply stick to WP:1.0/A. And be patient when waiting for reactions, this is all volunteer and never fast :) Best wishes Hekerui (talk) 20:54, 25 September 2009 (UTC)


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Search page shortcomings (a comment to Jimbo Wales)[edit]

Hi, Jimbo Wales. Recently seeing this comment (again): ' Typically, Google search results are better ' about Wikipedia's Search page (and its 'cancer' outgrowth, the aptly named CatScan tool) made me think that reading it over and over in different places means that people consider this a fact of life; which seems to me strange, since after all the whole of Wikimedia sites have a very specific structure and meta-content that is not taken into account by Google at all (I guess); Wikimedia must have a 50m headstart there, not taking into account the more frequent indexing (I guess), nevertheless.... I've mentioned this pet concern of mine in other places without much reaction from Wikipedians so far and since I've not seen much improvement over time to that sorry state of affairs (I found out has a definite influence on my Wikipedia 'productivity'), I thought this page was my last hope of having a decent search tool on Wikimedia anytime soon. Thanks for your time and many thanks for having founded Wikipedia... --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 16:41, 20 March 2010 (UTC) (WikiProject Java and Design portal founder)

Speedy deletion nomination of Good design awards[edit]

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Eliot Noyes[edit]

It surprised me to see a bot assignment of "low importance" to the article on Eliot Noyes. would seem that Noyes, the designer of the appearance of the iconic IBM Selectric typewriter and the modern look that still persists in Mobil Oil gas stations should receive a higher rating than "low", assigned the article. I would recommend reconsideration. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 19:02, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

Yep, thanks for the tip, I changed it to Mid for the time being. You must understand that we are a fairly new WikiProject and therefore these rankings will move as we refine them. Hope this helps, --AlainR345Techno-Wiki-Geek 20:55, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much, Alainr345! Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 02:22, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

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Nomination of Davison Associates for deletion[edit]

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