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The Signpost: 30 July 2014[edit]

Invitation: Air Serbia – issue[edit]

Hi AlanM1, I was recently caught in the discussion about Air Serbia - Jat Airways relations. Please, if you are willing so, read my whole expose about this issue here: [1], and give your opinion on it, so we can move forward from this stalemate. Thanks! --AirWolf talk 15:25, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Update: The whole merge discussion was directly moved here: [2]. Thanks.--AirWolf talk 21:22, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 06 August 2014[edit]

The Pinkprint[edit]

It would be appreciated if you looked over and voted on the move request for "The Pink Print" to the "The Pinkprint". Up to this point there hasn't been a direct response as to which spelling was correct. Nicki Minaj herself clarified the question directly stating it was written, "The Pinkprint", ( And further publications have now labelled it correctly including Rolling Stone and Spin. Leave either your support or opposition for the move here: Thank you for your time, KaneZolanski (talk) 00:14, 7 August 2014 (UTC).

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Hi I am joan lama.Let me explain.South part of kathmandu stands at elevation of 1400mtrs and it continously arises above 1400mtrs to north.What is the problem with to write average elevation of the city is 1400mtrs.See above part of the article,it is also written 1400mtrs.You should know kathmandu is ranked 16th position in capitals by it's elevation.I now request u plz correct it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joan lama (talkcontribs) 08:32, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Multiple problems. If you look at your edit in the page history, it says:
(cur | prev) 2014-08-12T03:59:27Joan lama (talk | contribs)‎ . . (102,412 bytes) (-3,344)‎ . . (Geography) (undo | thank)
The (-3,344) means you erased 3344 bytes (characters) with your edit. You didn't just change 1350 to 1400 – you destroyed a chunk of the article as well, for no apparent reason. That's the primary problem.
Second, you didn't cite a source for your change. Because the 1350 in the Infobox matched the article (in one place), and you didn't cite a source, nobody saw the 1400 that was also present in the text.
Third, you didn't leave an edit summary to describe your changes.
The article had a discrepancy, giving two different elevations (1,350 and 1,400 m). Neither figure was directly cited. If they were, I would tend to believe the more precise one (1,350 m). However, searching for a reasonably reliable source, the best I can do is this, which claims 1,400 m, so I've corrected the article to consistently show 1,400 m. Just as importantly, I added a citation to show the origin of the figure.[3] —[AlanM1(talk)]— 10:40, 14 August 2014 (UTC)


I disagree with the ranking method.Countries should be ranked on the basis of percentage of water resources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joan lama (talkcontribs) 03:06, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

@Joan lama: (Regarding List of countries by total renewable water resources) Percentage compared to what? From my lay knowledge, there are various consumers of water – agriculture, industry, power generation (that also feeds agriculture and industry), etc., so what to compare the water resources against is a complicated question.

However as I've tried to explain before, what you or I think does not matter. Wikipedia is a place where we put together and summarize things that have previously been published in reliable sources by others. It is not a place for original research. If you think it's important to rank water resources by percentage of total land, for example, you simply have to find an existing source that has published that information so you can use (and, importantly, cite) it. Note, also, that it would not be acceptable to find another table of land area for each country and then add that to the table and calculate the ratios – this would be considered synthesis. You need to find a source that has already presented all the data together and, hopefully, discussed its importance.

Remember, too, that it's not Wikipedia's job to promote anything, including the beautiful country that is Nepal. Tweaking statistics just to move it up in ranking is unfair to everyone. (Please do click on the blue wikilinks above to read more about each topic).

Also, when posting a new subject to a Talk page, be sure to add it at the bottom of the page, or use the "+" tab instead of the Edit tab and it will automatically place it there for you. Please also remember to sign postings to talk pages by adding ~~~~ at the end. These procedures apply only to Talk pages, not articles.

Thanks. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 07:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi,thanks for your response but again i want to come back to ranking method.If you add total properties of indians and also add total proporties of people of singapur which one will be greater,obviously first one.Does this mean india is much more reacher than singapur.If not then why to follow the ranking of countries on the basis of water resources that mentioned in wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joan lama (talkcontribs) 10:15, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
@Joan lama: I don't know what you mean by "properties" or "reacher" (not an English word). The ranking in the table is simply the ranking in order of water resources – from who has the absolute most to the absolute least. It doesn't imply anything other than that. It doesn't mean one country is better, richer, prettier, or more moral than another. Is that the "problem" you are trying to solve?

Please put your response below mine (instead of in the middle of another section) and indent it properly (in this case by starting a paragraph with :::: (4 colons)) and don't forget to sign it by putting ~~~~ at the end.

SORRY,I meant to say 'richer'.I just mean to say that big country naturally owes more than small one.I am also not able to write just bellow you.why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joan lama (talkcontribs) 11:03, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
@Joan lama: If by "owes" you mean "owns" (as in possesses), yes a "big" country usually is richer than a small one. What does any of it have to do with ranking by water resources? As I said, if you think it's important to have a table that would show water resource volume divided by total area, population, or GDP of the country (which is what I think you're saying), you need to find a reliable source that has published it. Otherwise, Wikipedia cannot include it. Please re-read what I've written (now quite a lot) and the various pages I've linked to in order to understand this – it's a fundamental principle of Wikipedia that you must understand in order to be allowed to continue editing.

As far as the problems you are having with putting things in the wrong place on a page and removing large pieces of pages that you edit (including my talk page with your last edit), I wouldn't have any way of knowing what you're doing. I'd suggest going back to the links provided on your talk page, like Wikipedia:Tutorial and Help:Editing and practice editing in your sandbox until you are able to do so. Also take note of the Preview and Changes buttons, which you can use to see what the page will look like after/if you save it and what changes you have made. Proper use of these would show you that you've made a mistake (like removing a large amount of text) before saving it. You can also ask for help from people who normally work with new editors at WP:Questions and WP:Teahouse. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 11:40, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 August 2014[edit]

History of Nepal[edit]

hi,this is ravi sherpa.I don't think the meaning given of 'Nepalya'(not Nipalya)is correct. 'alaya' means house in sanskrit.Newars call 'Nepa' for 'Nepal'. 'kapya' means wool in newari from which 'Nepa' is derived. Sherpaofsherpas (talk) 08:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)


The story claiming that gopals(plz dont write yadavas) is just fake.Sherpaofsherpas (talk) 08:24, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

@Sherpaofsherpas: I have rewritten the section completely, with information from several sources, which I've cited. Clearly, as with etymology in general, there can be no single answer, since many words are similar to each other. Mix multiple cultures and languages, and there will always be many answers. The article should now present this accurately. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 10:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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Unforgetting L.A. edit-a-thon on September 6[edit]

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Adding a template parameter[edit]

Since you're a template editor, could you add a parameter I've been wanting to add for a while now to Template:Infobox planet, adding Minimum Orbital Intersection Distance in this format:

| label42     = {{{moid|}}}
|  data42     = Earth [[Minimum Orbital Intersection Distance|MOID]]

Thanks. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 15:11, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

@Exoplanetaryscience: Seems reasonable at first look. Looks like the normal unit is AU. Do me a favor? Post the request at Talk:Infobox planet to make sure nobody cares. Are there any other elements from the JPL or any other important databases that are missing? I'll try to get to it on the weekend. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:34, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I posted a request there. Although the common unit is AU, it might also be useful to have an automatic conversion to Lunar distances if the MOID is less than 0.1 AU. I might do that myself, but I'm horrible at all but basic HTML. Thanks for the help. exoplanetaryscience (talk) 22:43, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 August 2014[edit]


I have not known about any sarma,jha newar.They are madhesi.You also have to know that there are two types of sahi,pradhan,josi in Nepal.One is madhesi and another is Newar.The refferences provided in newar caste system explain only madhesi prdhan,josi,sahi but not newar pradhan,josi,sahi.both of two types of pradhan,josi,sahi are different in physical features,cultures and languages from each other.Baoshr (talk) 15:40, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

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