User talk:Alex95-Ukraine

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Hello, Alex95-Ukraine, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! --Midgrid(talk) 21:36, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Re:Your last edits[edit]

My opinion is that the logos should not be 200px wide; 150px would be more adequate, but depending on the shape of the logo, if it's larger in height, then width should be sized so that height is 150px. For honours section you can check with the project's recommended layout. I didn't really understand why you undid my edits, but I'll let you do your edits for now as you posted the templates. BaboneCar (talk) 22:10, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Chornomorets stadium[edit]

I am not against, I only recovered the content of the old stadium article, because I thought that conventions on the English wiki were so. If you want to merge the two articles it's up to you, I will not oppose, considering there is not much text in either of them at this moment. BaboneCar (talk) 20:30, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

I did the merge to spare you from the work. BaboneCar (talk) 21:07, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Florin Costin Şoavă[edit]

I have not deleted this one as there are lots of pages that point to it. Can you explain what you want to do with it?  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

I am going to move the page back. Alex (talk) 22:08, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
OK, go for it.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 22:13, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Some tips to help you out![edit]

Hi Alex95-Ukraine, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:Alex95-Ukraine/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky (talkstalk!) 13:16, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

How references work[edit]

Simple references[edit]

These require two parts;

a)
Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>
b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";
== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Alex95-Ukraine/reftest and try it out.

Named references[edit]

Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook>
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> 

Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates[edit]

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Here's a little bit of magic which can save you an awful lot of time and effort![edit]

You might want to consider using this tool - (tools:~dispenser/cgi-bin/webreflinks.py) - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or Special:MyPage/vector.js, or Special:MyPage/monobook.js, and then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page!) It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well all by itself. For those it can't do by itself, it gives you a pull-down (or up) menu of templates to choose from, which you can then fill in manually. Often the problem is "No title found" - sometimes the title is obvious (especially if it's a pdf), but, if not, just open the page yourself and choose something appropriate if there's not already a clear title there. Happy editing! Pesky (talkstalk!) 13:16, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

2012–13 FC Karpaty Lviv season[edit]

I've started 2012–13 FC Karpaty Lviv season. Feel free to join in. Kingjeff (talk) 01:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

FC Hoverla Uzhorod[edit]

Alex, just as a follow up. Thanks for the reference of the new team name. However, whenever you see something like this, new team names, logos or a change from the norm, go ahead and try and do the changes yourself. It's called WP:BOLD. If you run into problems or its something that you don't know how to insert into WP then you can always ask and get my attention. I cannot do all the changes and my time is limited with work as well. Most importantly is that you had a link of the source of your information that can be inserted (WP:V). Most of them are template driven with {{cite web}} or {{cite news}}. Best wishes. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 03:38, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

File source and copyright licensing problem with File:Arsenal Kyiv.png[edit]

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Alexander Boguslayev[edit]

Can you please explain why you want Alexander Boguslayev deleted but refuse to allow it redirected to the club's article? GB fan 00:41, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

  • It's nonsens to put a redirect from article about person to an article about sports club. And about deletion. 1.This article (as well as Vitaliy Honcharov) is very very short, so it should be deleted as CSD A1. 2.There are no links to both articles so I dont think that they are notable to Wikipedia. 3.Even if this people are meeting Wikipedia's notability guidelines, articles should be improved or deleted as very short ones. Alex (talk) 01:15, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
    • A1 is not a speedy deletion criterion to delete short articles. A1 only applies to articles that we can not determine what the article is about. Both of those articles have plenty of content to understand what they are about so A1 does not apply. If you do not believe they are notable enough for Wikipedia you can nominate them for deletion through WP:AFD. GB fan 01:25, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Talk page blanking[edit]

Why are you blanking the talk page here: Talk:FC Metalurh Zaporizhya?? There is not so much discussion on the page that it needs to be cleared and if there was, then it should be archived. Fenix down (talk) 10:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

  • Hello. I think you did not noticed, that the discussions were archived. Alex (talk) 12:05, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

You're right, I did not notice, I looked but must have missed that line. Apologies. Fenix down (talk) 13:10, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

Ukraine reserve teams[edit]

Thanks for helping, much appreciated--Ymblanter (talk) 20:06, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

  • You are welcome. Alex (talk) 19:24, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Rally of Poland[edit]

Hi Alex. I don't know what's going on with this redirect, but you can't continue to CSD it. You've been reverted by 7 users over the few years this has been around, so consensus to keep it is obvious. It would be ridiculous for me or another admin to have to block you over a redirect, which is what might happen, so how about letting this one go and moving on? INeverCry 04:20, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

  • Hi. I dont really understand why You and other admins think this redirect is reasonable (even no articles redirect to it). As for me I dont want unnecessary (in my opinion) redirects created by me to exist. But as You want this redirect to exist I propose the following decision which I hope will satisfy everyone: to delete this page as CSD G7 and to recreate it (not restore). PS: I dont really understand why Prolog didnt recreated it himself if he thinks that this redirect should exist. Yours faithfully, Alex. Alex (talk) 19:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
I don't have any personal interest in this particular page. The fact that you created it really doesn't signify. Consensus has gone in favor of keeping it, and unless you can form consensus that says otherwise, or that some other action should be taken, the page should be left as is. I can't really see why an old redirect would be worth any trouble. INeverCry 20:27, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Kryvbas relegated?[edit]

According to the report they have been denied attestation and they have 5 days to respond to the decision of the FFU. Офіційно: Комітет ФФУ відкликав атестат у "Кривбаса" So have they been relegated??? I think you changing the standings is slightly premature. Wait until you have verifiable references that indeed that Hoverla have been in not relegated and Kryvbas have been relegated. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 20:56, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, they are currently relegated as they did not recieve a license for next season competition. But they have 5 days to appeal the decision of FFU. I added note about it. According to UPL Regulations (page 19 paragraph 8.2) 15th team will stay in Premiere Leage. Alex (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
You have to put a reference to that or else it will be deleted or reverted. Preferably you should wait 5 days and see what actually happens rather than publicizing relegation because the referenced article does not mention relegation. Also PFL Regulations need to be confirmed by the Disciplinary Committee of the FF of Ukraine because undoubtedly KKR will protest. I think what you will find is that Kryvbas's administration will find a sponsor and will pass attestation and will be playing in the Premier League season. And if that is the case all this relegation stuff will be deleted. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 01:03, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
I put the reference. And about protest: I dont agree that they will undoubtedly protest. Unfortunately the financing of the club was completely stopped and if they will not find new owner or sponsors in the next 5 3 days, they will not protest the decision. Moreover there is a high probability that the club will not play even in lower leagues and will be dissolved. Alex (talk) 14:18, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
Things are starting to move on this situation and as I figured some old folks who were involved with the club previously are showing interest... СМИ: "Кривбасс" спасет бывший президент клуба Brudder Andrusha (talk) 16:49, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Appeal was declined. Alex (talk) 16:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough on this decision. The question now is whether they end up in Persha Liha - which will be Relegated or they don't show up anywhere and then the notation IMO should be Expelled. The outcome for us WP is still ongoing. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 16:48, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
I changed relegated to expelled. Alex (talk) 09:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Good move. I also went in and left your notation and reference for their demise. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 11:54, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Stal refuses promotion to PL[edit]

Things just wont settle down in the post season... "Сталь" отказалась от участия в Премьер-лиге. Its not clear who will take their place in 2013–14 Ukrainian Premier League season. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 11:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I removed Stal from next season article. Instead Stal should be Oleksandriya, but they refused too. And as for other 1st league clubs I am not sure that they are ready for PL... Maybe Metalurh Z won't be relegated... Alex (talk) 12:07, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
It is most confusing and interesting to say the least. Bukovyna might try. Met. Zap were terrible but they do have infrastructure and that is the main reason. PL wants to have these U-19 league which is an additional cost and upkeep. Smaller teams just cant handle it. Brudder Andrusha (talk) 12:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Oleksandriya also baulked on promotion. Bukovyna has written a letter that they are willing if there can be an agreement on some of their concerns. Maybe - maybe not. POssibly a 15 team PL next season also... "Буковина" готова прийняти участь в Прем'єр-лізі, але просить трохи часу на вирішення проблем Brudder Andrusha (talk) 19:31, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Although Metalurh Z received license to play in PL, they are still NOT a PL club. The decision whether they will play in PL or not will be made on the executive committee meeting next week. Alex (talk) 19:45, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Obolon Kyiv merge into Obolon- Brovar Kyiv[edit]

You are invited to contribute to the discussion as to why Obolon Kyiv should be merged or not into the new entity FC Obolon-Brovar Kyiv at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Obolon_Kyiv_-_Obolon-Brovar_Kyiv_(Merge_article_?). Brudder Andrusha (talk) 22:14, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Declined redirect[edit]

I've reverted the deletion request. There are two problems here: the first is that the page's official logo doesn't list it as "Pharma", it lists it as "Pharm". As far as official names go, we go by what the official translated name would be, regardless of whether or not the original translation would be Pharma. Whatever the group labels themselves as in official English sources is what we use. Now aside from that, another user has moved the page back to "FC Real Pharm Ovidiopol" after you moved the page, which shows that at least one person has objected to the move. We can only use the uncontroversial move speedy when there are no issues and nobody objects to it. I recommend opening up a move request on the page for FC Real Pharm Ovidiopol. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 14:36, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

The request is not needed because club changed name before this season from "FC Real Pharm Yuzhne" to "FC Real Pharma Ovidiopol". Official website of PFL gives new name and as the club does not have official website, this is the most reliable sourse. Logo will be changed soon.
Screenshot of club's website which is under construction: [1]. It gives name Real Pharma. Alex (talk) 14:44, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
  • The issue there is that this isn't the official logo in English. Per naming conventions, we go by what something is labeled as in the official English logos and translated titles. This goes for sports clubs as well. It doesn't really matter what the name is translated as in other languages, just what the official English name is. In this case it is Pharm rather than Pharma, since the English logo as of 2011 uses the term "Pharm". What other language Wikipedias call the group doesn't automatically mean that this is what we would label the group as in English. I highly, HIGHLY suggest that you open up a discussion on the official talk page for Real Pharm. Even if the naming conventions weren't what they are, this still would be considered non-controversial since another user has clearly objected to the move and has reverted your previous attempts to move the page. I'll open up a discussion on the name convention page, but the problem here is that this is not uncontroversial maintenance for several reasons. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 15:08, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
Logo has no influence. As club officially changed name and organisation that holds competition confirms that, the page MUST be moved. Moreover the user who moved the page back, is not against move to FC Real Pharma Ovidiopol. Alex (talk) 15:13, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
  • I'm still not convinced and believe a talk page move request would be better, but since the other user doesn't seem to have an issue I'll go ahead and move it. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 15:42, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
One more:the redirect shouldn't be created as it is incorrect spelling. Club was never called "FC Real Pharm Ovidiopol". It was "FC Real Pharm Yuzhne" and now "FC Real Pharma Ovidiopol". Alex (talk) 15:45, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the revisions to Wire's wiki, I understand now why it had to be removed, sorry for the hassle![edit]

Thanks for the update to Wireclub's Wiki Alex! I already broke 3 things last week, oh man they would have killed me for breaking the wiki too lol anyhow, I do appreciate the revisions as I was unaware of the copyright procedure which I am aware of now. As for the MiniRacingOnline one, I don't think the main developer has a Wikipedia but I'll read through the sources part and figure out how to list him as the source so the file is a usable one. Thanks again and sorry for the inconvenience! - Seb =SebzX= (talk) 15:24, 9 August 2013 (UTC)