User talk:Angusmclellan

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Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion[edit]

I'm trying to get the above project active again. If you like to participate, please add you name to the project page. Mad Man American (talk) 15:46, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello. I can't see I'll be having much time over the next few months so I'm not likely to take part. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:17, 22 January 2012 (UTC)


I found the links to Robert Kirk over at User:Angusmclellan/sandbox very helpful, and I copied them over to Robert Kirk (folklorist). Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 11:33, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Angus McLellan (Talk) 11:53, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview[edit]

Dear Angusmclellan,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.


Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 04:19, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary[edit]

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Wishing Angusmclellan a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talkabout my edits? 22:48, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Horror story[edit]

I am rather horrified to discover that List of Scottish monarchs still begins with Kenneth MacAlpin. This is the kind of thicko pseudo-history that makes Wikipedia look incompetent as an academic resource. Do you have any suggestions? As far as I can see, most of the experts in medieval history have (unsurprisingly) abandonned Wikipedia, so it is very hard to know who on earth to turn to. --Mais oui! (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

My qualifications for offering assistance are hardly impressive, but here is a suggestion. The distinction between "Scotland" and precursor entities would seem to be a process rather than a single event, so, wherever the list starts the lead just needs to point readers to the List of kings of Dál Riata and List of kings of the Picts with a brief comment and a nod to Woolf's From Pictland to Alba, 789–1070 p. 320ff or similar. Ben MacDui 13:07, 12 May 2012 (UTC) PS Happy birthday Angus.
Not sure if I can give much more help than this, but it is certainly an issue. I seem to remember somewhere a form of words that indicated that names (and dates) were traditional, which might be a solution, but I cannot remember where. Otherwise breaking the list up, as suggested above, may be the best solution.--SabreBD (talk) 13:56, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Most lists of British monarchs that I've come across list English, and even Anglo-Saxon monarchs, but tend to neglect Scottish and Welsh ones...--MacRusgail (talk) 14:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I think Ben MacDui and Sabrebd have it right. It's not like Denmark and its semi-legendary and legendary and more a case of it depends what you mean by Scotland. Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:32, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review on Category:Fooian prelates[edit]

In regards to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 May 27#Prelates and the discussion on these categories: I was recently trying to find men who are Honorary Prelates but not bishops, and I was having a hard time because there was no category. Then I noticed that Category:Italian prelates is populated, extremely sparsely. I was about to start adding cardinals to the category but then I noticed the old deletion discussion. I wonder if it can be revisited, especially in light of discussion of reorganization at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2012 June 7#Category:Roman Catholic Church organizations. I hope that Wikipedia's categories can be more descriptive of Church structure, rather than just lower-common-denominator. Elizium23 (talk) 13:38, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Seasons greetings...[edit]

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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:25, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks very much! Hope you're having a great day today and wishing you all the best for 2013. Cheers! Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:05, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy New Year[edit]

Season's Greetings, Angus, Hope all is well and that you are keeping a tight grip on matters Early Mediaeval! I'm staying well out of it but watch admiringly from a safe distance! All the best for 2013 Eebahgum (talk) 23:57, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

All the best to you and yours. Hope you are keeping well! Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Aldfrith of Northumbria[edit]

Just a message to let you know that I've scheduled Aldfrith of Northumbria as the TFA on 27th January 2013. Hope this is OK. I checked for deadlinks first and one was reporting dead but was very much alive, so I don't know what the problem there was... Regards, BencherliteTalk 00:18, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Oh! That's very nice. I shall keep an eye on it. Thanks! Angus McLellan (Talk) 02:12, 17 January 2013 (UTC)


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great learning
Thank you for quality articles on people of the Middle Ages, such as Aldfrith of Northumbria, a king and a "man of great learning", and for quoting "Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

You're too kind. And anyway, I am really a semi-retired Wikipedian these days. But I'll be back! Until then, very best regards Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:58, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
A year ago, you were the 378th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of papabili in the 2013 papal conclave until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Are you on drugs? I have not made any edits to Jocelin. Nor has anyone else in the last two weeks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

If you look at the dates of those messages, you'll see that they are from 2007. Quite a long time ago now and, like you said, nothing to do with you. If you don't want to get random messages from the distant past every time you get a new IP address, please consider registering an account. Angus McLellan (Talk) 15:27, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

First Glasgow Wiki Meetup[edit]

You are invited to the first ever Glasgow Wiki Meetup which will take place at The Sir John Moore, 260-292 Argyle Street, City of Glasgow G2 8QW on Sunday 12 May 2013 from 1.00 pm. If you have never been to one, this is an opportunity to meet other Wikipedians in an informal atmosphere for Wiki and non-Wiki related chat and for beer or food if you like. Experienced and new contributors are all welcome. This event is definitely not restricted just to discussion of Scottish topics. Bring your laptop if you like and use the free Wifi or just bring yourself. Even better, bring a friend! Click the link for full details. Looking forward to seeing you. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:32, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Your input is requested[edit]

Greetings, Angusmclellan! If we have not met, I'm AutomaticStrikeout. I've come here to ask you to take part in the survey at User:AutomaticStrikeout/Are admins interested in a RfB?. I am trying to gauge the general level of interest that administrators have in running for cratship, as well as pinpoint the factors that affect that interest level. Your input will be appreciated. Happy editing, AutomaticStrikeout (TCSign AAPT) 02:12, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Heatwave (band photo, 1976).jpg)[edit]

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Scottish counties - new user needing guidance[edit]

I have tried my best, as have several other editors, but it appears that this new(ish) user just refuses to familiarise himself with Wikipedia guidelines and policy. Could you give them a friendly helping hand? I suspect that their heart is in the right place, but if things continue in the same fashion the conclusion is inevitable:

--Mais oui! (talk) 08:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

'Wally dugs'[edit]

You may wish to expand wally dogs or 'Wally dugs' or Staffordshire dog figurines. New article. Hafspajen (talk) 11:23, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Nice! I suspect that the local library in Bo'ness, where my mother (and her one Wally Dug) are, may have some info on them. So I will see what I can turn up. Thanks and all the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 14:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the redirect! Any good pictures? We have problems with that. Queen Victoria is not exactly a wally dug, (present picture). We work on the problem, but there is an issue with pict licences. There are some brown dog pictures, but it would be nice to have also some white, classical wally dugs too. Hafspajen (talk) 14:20, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

May 2013[edit]

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Bridgefield listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Main Page appearance: Áedán mac Gabráin[edit]

This is a note to let the main editors of Áedán mac Gabráin know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on December 31, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/December 31, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Áedán mac Gabráin was a king of Dál Riata from circa 574 until circa 609. The kingdom of Dál Riata was situated in modern Argyll and Bute, Scotland, and parts of County Antrim, Ireland. Genealogies record that Áedán was a son of Gabrán mac Domangairt. He was a contemporary of Saint Columba, and much that is recorded of his life comes from hagiography such as Adomnán of Iona's Life of Saint Columba. Other sources include Bede's Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum and Irish annals; none of the sources are contemporary. Áedán appears as a character in Old Irish and Middle Irish language works of prose and verse, some now lost. Áedán also appears in some Welsh sources, making him one of the few non-Britons to figure into Welsh tradition. The Irish annals record his campaigns against his neighbours, in Ireland, and in northern Britain, including expeditions to the Orkney Islands, the Isle of Man, and the east coast of Scotland. As recorded by Bede, Áedán was decisively defeated by Æthelfrith of Bernicia at the Battle of Degsastan. Áedán may have been deposed, or have abdicated, following this defeat, and the annals report nothing of him until his death around six years later. (Full article...)

UcuchaBot (talk) 23:02, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Excellent work, thanks for that one!♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:56, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Holidays...[edit]

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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk 23:42, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

And a happy New Year to you![edit]

Hi Angus, Thanks for your seasonal message. We seem to have been here for years! I noticed the programme but didn't hear it 'live': but I'm glad to know that M.C. is propounding his wisdom. And, indeed, that you are. As usual I'm floundering about in domestic worries but I just like to dip in here from time to time with a nugget or two and greet old friends. Wikipedia seems to have come quite a way since I made my first edit in 2006 but bits of it are still recognizable. Sometimes, away from the contumacious highway, one finds oneself still in a cobbled street or on an old cart-track which hasn't been edited for ages, and there is a whiff of nostalgia about it. One hardly likes to disturb the dust! I hope you're in good sorts - all the best for 2014. yours Eebahgum (talk) 01:36, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Ukania listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Ukania. Since you had some involvement with the Ukania redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. TheChampionMan1234 07:21, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Happy Holidays[edit]

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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. - Ealdgyth - Talk 14:58, 25 December 2014 (UTC)