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I have already multiple times requested to split this article into multiple articles! When are you going to start with that? The Banner talk 16:05, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Historical inheritance systems[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm just letting you know that this article reads like a research paper. It is far to intricate, detailed, and failing in encyclopedic tone for a single encyclopedia entry. Please note that although referenced to sources, we do not accept WP:Original Research. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 14:21, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to wikipedia. If you want help structuring/trimming this article (if not original research) do let me know, I will help you.--Andrea edits (talk) 13:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
Hi gain. I notice that you reverted 8 lines of links. I only did this because the article is on list of 'too many wikilinks'. Banner at top of article explains the issues with the article. Whilst I was trying to offer help, I saw no comment there/here/my talk page. I understand that you feel reporting my actions is reasonable, no hard feelings on that. I will however withdraw my offer for future help on the article.Good luck with finishing the work.--Andrea edits (talk) 06:11, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
I agree with others that this article is far too long and detailed. It would be really helpful if you could cut it down to a readable length.----Ehrenkater (talk) 14:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

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Copyright[edit]

Hi, Ansegam, and welcome to Wikipedia. :) User:Cirt asked me to take a look at your question, and I just wanted to speak to you about our copyright policies.

It is, indeed, possible to infringe copyright without knowing it - copyright infringement isn't a matter of intention, and copyright can be infringed even if you mean no harm. I am not a lawyer and am not able to give you legal advice, but I have volunteered in copyright work on Wikipedia for some time and I have some experience with it outside of Wikipedia.

As a general rule of thumb, under the U.S. law that governs Wikipedia, you may infringe copyright if you substantially use somebody else's intellectual property in a manner that is not "excused", as by fair use. Users who do not live in the United States are bound to follow U.S. copyright law by our Terms of Use and local copyright policy, but they are also subject to the laws of the area where they live. For instance, a user from Germany once uploaded some copyrighted pictures to Wikipedia under our "non-free content policy and guideline", but he wrote me telling me that he had gotten into trouble with the owner of those pictures, who was also German, because that use was not legal where they lived. For your own safety, it's a good idea to review the copyright laws in your own country to be sure that what you do here is legal there. We do have some articles on copyright laws in various countries (for instance, Copyright law of Germany), but we can't guarantee that they're accurate. They may make a good starting point, but I would check out the sources they cite as well.

In terms of infringing on copyright policy on Wikipedia, these are the basic principles to follow:

  • If you copy anything from your source, you should put it in quotation marks and cite it. (This is a good general rule of thumb to follow even if the content isn't under copyright, although there are other ways to work with that - see Wikipedia:Plagiarism)
  • You shouldn't quote too much from your source. Quotations should be minimal and should serve some purpose, not just to borrow their words to tell us the information. For instance, a quotation can show somebody's specific point of view of something. If you just want to tell us the information, you should almost always put it in your own words in a good paraphrase.
  • Good paraphrase is not always easy. :) Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing discusses how to achieve it.

I recommend reading Wikipedia:Copy-paste and the policies and guidelines it links to.

Glancing at Systems of social stratification, I can see the concern. It looks like you have connected together a lot of quotations with not a lot of material to support it. I would recommend you go into that article as soon as possible and convert most of that to paraphrase, using direct quotations only occasionally when the exact words of the author are important. It is not "original research" to paraphrase what other people have said, as long as you stick to their meanings (not their words!) and don't try t make it mean something new.

In terms of your other articles, please review them to see if you have always marked the content you copied and if that copied content conforms to what you see at Wikipedia:Copy-paste and the linked documents. Please consider whether any paraphrasing you have already done meets Wikipedia:Plagiarism and Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing.

If you do this - and clean up anything that doesn't conform - you should be conforming with policy, which is intended to keep you compliant at least with U.S. law. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:13, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much, Moonriddengirl, much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 15:46, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi, Moonriddengirl! I reviewed my article "Systems of social stratification" and I found that most of the content I paraphrased was available for free in the Internet -I mean, those works were publicly available for those who wished to read them. I also paraphrased books which were not free; however, I paraphrased those passages that could be read in Google Views of those books, so I think I didn`t publish anything unfree. The only exception are two short sentences from an study made by Adam Kuper about the Sotho people, and of course I marked the two short sentences I was paraphrasing. I hope this means I am not infring any copyright. Thank you very much for your help. :)

Hello, Ansegam. I'm afraid that it is a common misunderstanding that because something is found on the internet, it is public domain. This is not true - under the U.S. law that governs us, all content is copyrighted immediately upon creation and remains that way until copyright expires (usually 70 years after the author dies) unless it is ineligible. We can use content that is ineligible, like content that is published by the U.S. government (although not all government content is ineligible) or that has been explicitly licensed or released for use by its authors. The vast quantity of what you find on the internet does not count.
Being free of charge is a very different thing from being free of copyright! For instance, Wikipedia itself is free of charge, but it is not free of copyright. People are allowed to copy things from Wikipedia, but only if they meet the terms of the license. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

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Historical inheritance systems[edit]

My edits to Historical inheritance systems were an appropriate and much needed improvment to the article. I was addressing concerns made on the article itself (with templates) and on the talk page. I explained my edits on the article talk page and I would appriciate if you would discuss any problems you have with them there rather than blindly revering everyone who made any edit since you did. This behaviour looks a lot like WP:OWN to me, so you should be careful to explain yourself and gain consensus rather than forcing your version. Sarahj2107 (talk) 08:06, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I invested much time and effort writing this article for free, perhaps if you could understand that you wouldn't vandalize my article. It is you the one who is blind, for you destroy my article without realising how rude it is to ruin someone else's hard work and how will that person feel about it. If you are looking for a simpler article, perhaps you should go somewhere else. It is my intention to heighten the intellectual level of people, not to adapt to their intelectual mediocrity. Mentally challenged people like you destroy the world by making everything "user-friendly", thus destroying culture and wisdom and turning all people into fools who can hardy think and learn. I won't let you vandalize my article anymore; I have copies of this article and I will superimpose them over your edits if you make many modifications. I hope everything is clear to you now. Ansegam (talk) 20:49, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
It can take considerable experience to become used to Wikipedia, but in general it is not appropriate to talk about other editors vandalizing an article, and it is never appropriate to refer to "my" article (see WP:OWN). At Wikipedia, vandalism is defined as obvious and intentional damage such as inserting nonsense, and that term must never be used in regard to someone's editing in ways that are not covered by the vandalism definition.
Claiming another editor is vandalizing an article (when it's not vandalism) is regarded as a personal attack, and that is a serious problem. The other insults in your above comment are completely unacceptable and must not be repeated—imagine how Wikipedia would look if we all abused people we disagreed with. Please review the "serious problem" link because it is a policy that editors must be civil, and sanctions may apply.
Thanks for your hard work on the articles, but any experienced editor can confirm that they are not in a form that is suitable for Wikipedia—the fact that there is far too much detail is just one problem. You may be able to find another website where the material can be used in its full form, and with your preferred text, but I'm afraid that the articles Historical inheritance systems and Systems of inheritance among various peoples and Systems of social stratification) will be significantly changed, and it would be best to ask questions on the article talk pages (or at WP:HELPDESK) in order to understand the standard procedures that apply on Wikipedia.
I indented your comment by putting a colon in front of it, and I put two colons before my comment. Johnuniq (talk) 10:31, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is WP:OWN_and_Persoal_attacks_from_User:Ansegam. Thank you. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:58, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

June 2014[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Historical inheritance systems. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Historical inheritance systems[edit]

I understand that you spent much time and effort in contributing to Historical inheritance systems.Thank you for your hard work. However, please be aware that you do not own the article. "Work submitted to Wikipedia can be edited, used, and redistributed—by anyone". Please familiarise yourself with Wikipedia policies and guidelines especially WP:OWN. By repeatedly reverting edits without any discussions or reaching a consensus on the talk page, you are engaging in unnecessary edit wars . You even reverted a typo fix. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. Other editors are just trying to help you. I strongly suggest you be open to suggestions on improving the article and not be hostile. NQ (talk) 02:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I have left a comment in the article's talk page speaking about this issue. I want to edit the article myself. Since I wrote the whole article, I want to be the one to make the modifications the article needs.Ansegam (talk) 03:44, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

That's neither:
a) possible
b) plausible
c) based on the rules you agreed to
Others can and will edit the article - and you agreed to that. If you display any form of ownership over it, you may be blocked for progressively longer periods. the panda ₯’ 11:02, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

June 2014[edit]

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Nobody owns an article. Once an article is put up on Wikipedia, anybody can edit it. You cannot tell someone to go away. You have to work with other editors and within Wikipedia rules. You have continually reverted other people's edits, including minor copy edits for at least 8 months. You have continually been warned about your behavior. Any other revert of another user's edits, without discussion first, will result in a longer or permanent block. Bgwhite (talk) 04:45, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

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Ansegam, I have reset and lengthened your block to ten days starting now, due to your transparent attempt at evading the block through your IP 85.136.72.124. If you try this again, your block lengths will progressively escalate, until somebody sets it to indefinite. Fut.Perf. 10:38, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

That was NOT me and you CANNOT prove it! This is infuriating and grossly unfair! (Ansegam (talk) 11:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC))

Hardly, given the fact that we know this to be your IP range [1], see 85.137.209.91 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) and also 84.77.189.3 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Fut.Perf. 14:41, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Block reset again[edit]

Despite Fut.Perf.'s warnings, there was another WP:DUCK edit today.[2] Block lengthened to a month. Ansegam, stop now or the next block will most likely be indefinite. You need to either wait out the month or request unblock, here on this page, as described in the block template above. Bishonen | talk 17:18, 11 June 2014 (UTC).

June 2014[edit]

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Note: If Ansegam should finally choose to appeal, it may be of interest to the reviewing admin as well as to yourself, Ansegam, that the latest sock, User:Graniole, was checkuserblocked. Not that there was ever any doubt it was the same person. Bishonen | talk 14:59, 13 June 2014 (UTC).