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Gaby Herbstein[edit]

Hi Antrocent! First of all, thank you for your edits on the Gaby Herbstein article. I am new in Wikipedia and I am still figuring out a few things about how it works, so all your help editing is great and welcome! However, there are two specific things I would like to change back in the article because of their relevancy when informing about this photographers work. I share my thoughts with you before doing so:

1) I would change "Argentine fashion photographer" for "Argentine photographer", because according to my research defining her as a fashion photographer is a conceptual difference with her actual work. It is true that fashion photography is one facet of her work, but she has also produced relevant artistic projects that are not related to fashion, for example Huella Ecologica 2 (La Basura no es Basura). Here she joined Pablo Bernasconi, an argentine illustrator that works with recycled materials and worked together on a concept of ecology. This project (that couldn't be labeled as fashion photography) has been considered so important that was exhibited in the Obelisk, that is one of the most iconic and crowded places of Buenos Aires. This leads me to my next point:

2) I believe her exhibitions should be listed in the article (as they where originally), because they are precise information about her career and how her work was received by society. Also, if we were debating whether a subject is notable or not, exhibitions in art museums and public places are facts that give count of the relation between any work of art and its reception by the audience: this is strongly related to an artists notability. I don't find this information as promotional, but as precise information that can be relevant in any research from an art theory point of view (I figure a big part of the readers of this page would be art students, photography students, etc.). What do you think? Wikibubble Photography (talk) 19:51, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Hello @Wikibubble Photography:
1. Okay, you may change that back if you wish.
2. Exhaustive lists of an individuals work are generally not encyclopedic. The problem is not that it is promotional, rather that it more what you would expect to find on a curriculum vitae than an encyclopedia article. An encyclopedia article should describe the overall thrust or development of a persons work (as part of this, specific examples may be given). For example, articles about academics may cover papers of theirs that are representative of their work or were particularly notable, but do not contain lists of every article they have ever published.
Thank you. Antrocent (♫♬) 20:50, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I will take that into account while adding some more information to the article these days. Best regards. Wikibubble Photography (talk) 21:55, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Regarding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Rhyner[edit]

You've only been here 6 months so I am going to give you a break and not hit you with a warning template for what you said you did on the article at the AfD above, but you should be aware that is not how you handle editing disputes. See WP:BRD. After a reversion, the issue is to be discussed on the article talk page and a consensus reached for the changes. You do not just re-add your content.

I am not even going to bother re-reverting your changes tho, because every reference you add is just bolstering my arguement that this dude is totally not notable. Being a radio personality, even in one of the top 10 markets in the country, is just not enough for notability. All the ref's you are showing, even the book, is primarily local in nature and much more about the station then the person. The only one you have shown that is primarily about him and discusses him in detail, is an interview with no other content, and that isn't WP:INDY and says nothing to notability. When you can find something that discusses him in detail from say Chicago or New York, then maybe. John from Idegon (talk) 04:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

John from Idegon, the article Mike Rhyner will be kept because its subject is clearly notable and I do not appreciate your threats and attempts to sabotage that. Up to this point I have tried to be very polite and even supplicating in the hope that you might join me in building the encyclopedia instead of defensively doubling down on your deletion nomination. Now, in the spirit of constructive criticism, I would just like to say that I have found your conduct aggressive and insulting. As to your contention that I need to read WP:BRD, I think it is you for whom that advice applies. I view your removal of 90% of the pages content (entirely non-controversial stuff like what university he attended) and references as the bold action, which would make my re-addition of some of that content, as part of much larger improvement of the page, the revert action (if you can even call that a revert). So, no warning templates required. Antrocent (♫♬) 23:19, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


2015[edit]

Why is your name on my edit? Pablothepenguin (talk) 21:58, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Do you mean this revert, Pablothepenguin? I assume we undid it at about the same time and mine happened just a bit first. Antrocent (♫♬) 22:01, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
Shouldn't it have been an edit conflict, then? Pablothepenguin (talk) 22:02, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I don't know. If you were using a tool the edit conflict would have been suppressed. Antrocent (♫♬) 22:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I wasn't using any tools Pablothepenguin (talk) 22:11, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
I do not have an explanation then, other than that I made that edit. Antrocent (♫♬) 07:12, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Paperplane Pursuit[edit]

Hello Antrocent. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Paperplane Pursuit, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The bandwidth article is enough for A7. Needs to go to AfD if you don't think they're notable. . Thank you. GedUK  11:59, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Ged UK, I did not tag the page for deletion under A7. The band SilentScream is the same as Paperplane Pursuit, they recently changed their name. The SilentScream article needs to be moved over the Paperplane Pursuit article.I tagged it for deletion under G6 using the G6 template with said rationale in the rationale field. I discovered the Paperplane Pursuit article while reviewing new pages when it was an extremely low quality article and added the sources that are now on the page (my improvements) before I discovered the well developed SilentScream page. Antrocent (♫♬) 12:13, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I'm so sorry! You do a run of A7 and see another stub about a band and assume it's another A7! I'll sort it out. In future, if youo use {{Db-move|page to be moved|reason}}, it'll put the link in which makes it a bit easier for the admin! Sorry again. GedUK  12:21, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
No worries, Ged UK. Face-smile.svg I see how that is an easy mistake to make. Thank you for your help and tips! Antrocent (♫♬) 12:28, 25 June 2014 (UTC)


Porong Ri[edit]

You reviewed it that quick? I got thank you and review notices within seconds of hitting the save button. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 14:41, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

It was clear that the article did not need further attention. Antrocent (♫♬) 15:17, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
I was just a little surprised by the quickness. The notices actually appeared immediately after I pasted in the talkpage templates, which took some time, but less than a minute after saving the main page. Glad to hear there were no obvious problems. Thanks. --RacerX11 Talk to meStalk me 15:30, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Re: Hello[edit]

Heya, yeah I kinda wanted to get back involved due to the issues around articles around trans people, the shitfest around Chelsea manning was a disgrace, so actually trying to write good articles now rather than just being a bit of a glorified RC robot. I learnt alot since 2006 :). I kinda dropped off when someone wanted me to be an admin and I failed the vote. would be happy to talk more:D--Kerotan-Have a nice day :) 21:08, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

2006, you are so old! :p
Well, I hope to see you around some day. Antrocent (♫♬) 21:19, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Sandra Graham[edit]

Hello Antrocent,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Sandra Graham for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. AlanS (talk) 13:33, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

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