User talk:Arzel

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NOTE: Chances are I won't be using the talkback function. Don't take it personally, I just don't like it.


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Edit to Illegal immigration[edit]

I restored text to the Illegal immigration article that you had deleted, adding sources to address your concerns that the text was unsourced. Please tweak if you see a way to improve it. Thank you --Leegrc (talk) 19:22, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Tag team warring[edit]

Arzel - not all administrators are like me, but when I deal with edit warring I consider the participation of everyone involved in counting up the reverts. That might land you in blockable territory if the admin who deals with the ANEW report is like me. You shouldn't revert, or revert yourself, until after the report is resolved.--05:02, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

So if I were to revert anything that anyone did that someone else has already reverted (even partially) within the past 7 days it would count against me as a violation of 1RR? That just doesn't make any sense. I understand partially what you are saying, but you put forth an almost impossible standard for someone to uphold. Regardless, you have put me in an odd position right now. Since I have just read this message and there has been no further editing to try and return material that we both agree does not reflect the source do you still expect me to revert? Also, how can you call this tag team warring? I wasn't acting in concert with you. I respect your opinion, but this seems awfully pedantic. Arzel (talk) 04:28, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
@TParis: This has to be one of the most inappropriate warnings that I've seen in my 8+ years contributing to this project. I'm not Arzel's biggest fan, but even I recognize this as overreaching and a completely outside of policy. For one thing, you're WP:INVOLVED at RealClearPolitics. Give yourself a warning because if anyone is edit warring, it's you. Unless you have strong evidence that Arzel is colluding with Jahgro anyone, you should retract your unfounded accusation of tag team edit warring. The policy does not prohibit anyone from making a single revert. In fact, it clearly says "An edit war occurs when editors who disagree about the content of a page repeatedly override each other's contributions". This has been explained to you before and its been debated at WT:EW. Remember when Toddst1 (talk · contribs) tried to pull the same bullshit? Please align your understanding of this policy with community consensus.- MrX 13:20, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
What are you uppity about? It was a friendly courtesy, piss off. Did you read the article history at all? Arzel was reverting 'on my side', as some would put it. Jesus Christ, MrX, get your facts straight. @Arzel, don't worry about it, this whole issue is days old. I had already made an ANEW report on Jargho when I posted this and I was trying to save you from getting caught up in the action.--v/r - TP 16:55, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
What I'm uppity about is an admin inventing rules without the consent of the community, and an admin accusing an editor of tag team edit warring without strong evidence.- MrX 17:13, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
The evidence is on the history page. Between Arzel and I, we were up to 3 reverts. I didn't want him to go to 4 reverts and some admin reads the ANEW report and blocks him. I didn't warn him as an administrator, I warned him as an fellow editor who was editing the same article and reverting the same person. I wasn't aware that there was a policy that admins were not allowed to be friendly. As far as aligning, feel free to align yours and bugger off.--v/r - TP 17:48, 25 August 2014 (UTC)