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Congratulations and Happy New Year![edit]

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Thanks, Ian. All the best for 2014. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:13, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Help with article history syntax[edit]

Hi Rupert, bit rusty on closing ACRs, and keep getting a ? on the article history of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Assessment/Natchez_revolt. Could you have a look and fix it if you can see the prob? Thanks, Peacemaker67 (send... over) 06:23, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Think I've taken care of it... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:07, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Ian. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Hew Dalrymple Ross[edit]

Hi - Many thanks for your very helpful copy edits to Hew Dalrymple Ross all of which I agree with. Best wishes. Dormskirk (talk) 20:27, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Language tool[edit]

Hi mate - came across this [1]. Don't think its fully operational and often gets foxed but occasionally picks up some typos. Might be useful. Anotherclown (talk) 22:43, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Backlog drive proposal[edit]

I don't mind renaming the page. I only intended the title I gave it to be temporary until (and if) it was accepted. Wild Wolf (talk) 15:39, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Military history reviewers' award[edit]

Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:15, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

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Potential conflict of interest[edit]

Would you mind casting an eye on Siege of Antwerp (1914) as I think Brigade Piron altered the page rating unilaterally. I've tried to discuss it but he isn't answering the point I made, that since we've added a lot of material someone else needs to assess it (once it's finished).Keith-264 (talk) 23:57, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

G'day, Keith, I've re-assessed the article and left a note on the talkpage. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 00:24, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Eythenkew!Keith-264 (talk) 08:36, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Second Anglo-Afghan War[edit]

There is an editor who only recently started editing and try to modify the result of the war. Might a sock of the previous user. ༆ (talk) 02:58, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

G'day, thanks for keeping an eye on that article. It is certainly possible, but probably best to WP:AGF at this stage. In regards to removal of "British victory" from the infobox, personally I don't have a strong opinion on this. The dot points in the infobox provide a reasonable summary of the result (I think, although I don't know much about that particular conflict), and if it is indeed difficult to tell who actually "won", it is probably best to drop the "British victory" from the infobox and just let the reader decide. Take care, AustralianRupert (talk) 03:17, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Oct–Dec 13 Milhist reviews[edit]

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Thanks, Ian! Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:16, 9 January 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations![edit]

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AustralianRupert: As recognized by your peers, your contributions to the field of military history on Wikipedia over the last year have no parallel. By order of the members of the Military history WikiProject, I award you the honor of being Wikipedia's 2013 Military historian of the year. Congratulations, and keep up the stellar work. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 23:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Ed. We had plenty of fantastic candidates this year. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 02:57, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Hearty congrats, Rupert -- well deserved! Like 2011 again except Nick's moved up a spot and the two of us put together couldn't even equal your tally...! Seriously, not only have you maintained your great record of reviews and continued to be a voice of calm and reason in discussions, you've done a grand job improving articles over the past year, especially those somewhat outside your comfort zone, i.e. RAAF units -- saved Nick and me a heap of work... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 04:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Cheers, Ian, I found it good for my morale to focus on something different for a while! Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:20, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
I'd echo everything Ian has written above. This is very well deserved - congratulations. Nick-D (talk) 06:45, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Cheers, Nick. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Congratulations Rupert—thoroughly, thoroughly deserved. Cliftonian (talk) 13:29, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, John. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 02:13, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Well done again AR, much deserved. Anotherclown (talk) 22:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
  • Saw coverage of this in The Signpost. Congrats! --Another Believer (Talk) 16:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)
    • Cheers, Another Believer. Have a good weekend. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:16, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

42nd Battalion (Australia)[edit]

Gday I just created 42nd Battalion (Australia). Its fairly brief and a bit of a hack job - any chance you could pls have a look at it and make any changes / additions that might be necessary when you get some time? All the best. Anotherclown (talk) 05:23, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so far, much appreciated. Anotherclown (talk) 06:41, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
No worries, great work. I've just made a few minor tweaks and added a couple of images. Thanks for putting that together. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:15, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks guys, also served in this unit. Gowallabies (talk) 13:47, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Campaignbox question[edit]

Talk:Siege of Antwerp (1914) I've knocked out a campaignbox but the title needs amending. Last time I tried this I ended up generating new campaignboxes instead of simply editing the original. Is there an advice page I can consult please? Regards Keith-264 (talk) 09:18, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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activities[edit]

I've been plugging away on that 95 un assessed article list. At one point it was at 70.  :) auntieruth (talk) 19:11, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Gday, FYI Rupert is a little busy at the moment and has said he might not be active on Wikipedia for a bit [2]. All the best. Anotherclown (talk) 23:46, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Ruth. As AC says, I've not got much time for Wiki at the moment. I certainly appreciate your efforts, though! Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 20:06, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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Australia Day[edit]

To my mates in Oz...have a good holiday...I damned near missed it, but it's still the 26th in Kansas. Cheers! Cuprum17 (talk) 03:00, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Cheers, mate. Had a pretty good day - watched Australia win the cricket and played with the baby. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:36, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

3 RAR[edit]

Great work so far. Stole my thunder updating the Afghanistan stuff (but did a better job that I could)! Just wondering if chronologically the article wouldn't be improved if the sentence about losing the parachute capability and moving to Tvle wouldn't work better towards the bottom of the article. Thoughts? Anotherclown (talk) 03:47, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

G'day, yes I see what you mean. In its current configuration, I don't think that would quite work, though - given that it seems to be structured thematically around different deployments. If we changed the "Parachute role and Holsworthy Barracks" heading to something different, though it might be possible...hmm, will have to think a bit more about it. Sorry, I have to go offline now, but please feel free to tweak the structure if you can come up with something. Thanks for adding all those refs, too. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Agreed. Unfortunately I can't actually think of a solution at the moment either (too sober). Was hoping you might have a brain wave hence the cmt ;-)! Anotherclown (talk) 04:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Did something now - not sure if its ideal though. Anotherclown (talk) 05:41, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I'm a new editor, interested in this article (former unit member).

- BTW I have added the unit citation in full at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Unit_Citation_%28US%29#United_Nations_Forces
- I also wrestled with the concept of article configuration, ended up leaving it & just adding the Para / Holsworthy section.
- There is discussion (LinkedIn, non wikipedians) about adding a 'Notable former members' section (or subordinate article if sufficient size). Similar to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_Parachute_Regiment_soldiers. At present ones we can think of are https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reg_Saunders, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Hassett, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phillip_Bennett, Maj Gen B W "Hori" Howard AO, MC, (Retd), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Roberts-Smith, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Nikolic, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hanson, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradley_Trevor_Greive. Do you think the idea has merit & can you think of other candidates?

Best rgds, Gowallabies (talk) 13:46, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

G'day, all, thanks for your efforts on this article. AC, the expansion and restructure looks pretty good to me, cheers. Gowallabies, regarding the notable members list, in my experience such lists often fall afoul of Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not, and as such I'd suggest avoiding them. Happy to discuss further if you want, but at the moment my time online is pretty limited so I might not respond quickly. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 20:30, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

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No. 1 Squadron[edit]

Hi mate, I didn't realise the 'under construction' had gone, was collating my refs for an all-out effort on this one to take to FA, so we might be doubling up... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

With this one I don't think it's just a matter of citing what's there, I was planning on adding a good deal more between the wars and post-WWII... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
G'day, Ian, sorry, I'll leave you to it. I have a photocopy of the Barnes and Eather sources, so please let me know if you need me to look anything up (although I don't get on to Wiki much these days with work and the little one so I might be slow to respond). Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
Tks, I went through Eather already and I think I can get Barnes from the Mitchell if need be. This was the only unit article eligible for the WWI drive that I felt I could improve so I've been spending extra time on the sourcing, and haven't moved as quickly on the writing as I'd wished, but hopefully it will all balance out in the end... ;-) Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:32, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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33rd Alabama Article[edit]

Thank you so much for your nice comments on the 33rd Alabama article that you recently rated. I have fixed the two "cite needed" tags you mentioned, and after I go over it again to check everything one last time, I will definitely be nominating it for GA. Thanks for taking the time to read and rate my article, and for your encouraging words. Cheers!! - Ecjmartin (talk) 00:40, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Your very welcome, good luck with taking the article further. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:28, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Mons[edit]

I've got the GOH 1914 I so I've been adding material to 1914 pages various (Liege and Namur mainly) and will be mining it for Mons during the day. RegardsKeith-264 (talk) 07:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

G'day again, Keith, sounds good. I'm sure what you come up with will be up to your usual high standard. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:28, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm sticking it in the talk page for the moment.Keith-264 (talk) 10:59, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for looking at 2nd Artois; I had a really good sandbox edit, then confused the sandbox with the article page and buggered both up. I've got some material to add from GOH 1915 and then it'll be finished.Keith-264 (talk) 23:08, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
No worries, Keith, I've assessed it as B class because it looks reasonably complete to my lay person's eyes. I actually think that if you add info from GOH 1915 you could probably take it successfully through GAN or ACR. Have a good weekend. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 23:15, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
I added the prelude material to Mons yesterday and have put the GOH narrative of 23 and 24 August on the talk page for use as desired.Keith-264 (talk) 18:01, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Royal Australian Regiment[edit]

Hi mate. I've been adding some refs (and a small amount of material) to the Royal Australian Regiment article. Still a few citations needed though. Just wondering if there is any change you had some sources for these? If so it would probably be B class. All the best. Anotherclown (talk) 10:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Its Sunday night and my judgment is increasingly impaired... but I think this probably needs a bit more on Afghanistan. What do you think? How much would be appropriate? Anotherclown (talk) 11:03, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
G'day, mate, I had a crack at adding some refs - think I got all the cite needed tags. I agree, it needs a little bit more on Afghanistan. Probably doesn't need more than a few sentences, though, given the currentness of the topic we wouldn't want to overbalance the article etc. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 21:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for this. Great work. Anotherclown (talk) 08:50, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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History of the RAAF[edit]

Hi mate, good stuff expanding this article -- I doubt I'd feel so confident taking on the Army's history. If you feel you'd like a break (per recent edit summary), I think I could take on the post-war history in the next day or two. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 11:15, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

G'day, Ian, that would be great. Unfortunately, I don't get much time during the week to log-on these days, so I probably won't come back to the article until next weekend. I don't have much covering the post-war history, so anything you can add would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:25, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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ref=harv?[edit]

Greetings! Trust you are well?
I noticed you've placed "ref=harv" at the end of some "cite book"s on the Peter Badcoe page, but it's not obvious to me what difference it makes. Given that you're unlikely to do something that's pointless, it looks like this is something I should learn about! Care to point me at some "useful reading" about it? Thanks in advance, Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 23:12, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

G'day, adding this mark up code enables the short citations to link to the longer ones in the References (essentially you can click the short cite and it will take you to the long one) if they use mark up such as {{harvnb|Smith|1998|p=9}} or {{sfn|Jones|2000|p=1}} etc (if the article uses a manual citation system, e.g. <ref>Williams 2001, p. 4.</ref> then it is not necessary to add the "ref=harv" to the cite book templates). I have a script installed that tells me when this link isn't working, by displaying red warning characters in the article. The script can be found here: User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js. Have a good day. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 23:20, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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Gday mate. I've completed my review now - just a couple of minor points to deal with / discuss when you get the chance. All the best. Anotherclown (talk) 06:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

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Curious[edit]

{{sfn|Coulthard-Clark|1998|pp=140&n.dash;141}} Don't the wiggly brackets here do the same thing as {{nowrap|A–B}}? RegardsKeith-264 (talk) 22:54, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

G'day, Keith, the curly brackets won't be seen in view mode, but they will in edit mode, which I think is the same for the no wrap device. Is that what you were asking...? Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 23:06, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I was curious about there being an ndash notation rather than a – between the numbers. I had assumed that the curly brackets of the sfn did the same thing as those in the no wrap template, so it was unnecessary?Keith-264 (talk) 06:54, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
G'day again, okay I think I understand now. The answer is sort of, maybe not really, but also probably. The sfn template still requires an endash to present one, this will either be a hardcoded html one (i.e. &.ndash;) or one presented in normal typeface (i.e. – ). That is to say, a hyphen ( - ) won't be converted by the sfn template. I'd hazard though that the no wrap template is actually the same, i.e. in the example above you have used a normal typeface endash as opposed to a hyphen anyway. The curly brackets in both cases are just the mark up used to transclude the template itself, I believe. Is that a sufficiently confusing answer? ;-) AustralianRupert (talk) 21:11, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Er, is the n.dash notation necessary for a page range inside a sfn template? I put a – in but your {{sfn|Coulthard-Clark|1998|pp=140&n.dash;141}} citation used the n.dash form. Is it a case of same difference? RegardsKeith-264 (talk) 21:55, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it's the same. AustralianRupert (talk) 21:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
At last I can sleep soundly....;O)Keith-264 (talk) 22:05, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
No worries, take care. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 22:19, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

1st Topographic Survey Squadron ‎[edit]

Hi AustralianRupert‎, hope the nappy changing is getting easier. Just a quick one. Do you believe that 1st Topographic Survey Squadron should be renamed 1st Topographic Survey Squadron ‎(Australia) and List of recipients of the Distinguished Service Cross to List of recipients of the Distinguished Service Cross (Australia)? Your thoughts. Regards Newm30 (talk) 04:57, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

G'day, Newm, yes not too bad. Had a bit of practice before this one, anyway. In the case of 1st Topo, I'm not sure. I suppose it would depend if there are any other units of the same name, but the List of recipients of the DSC, I think should be moved to "List of recipients of the Distinguished Service Cross (Australia)" given that there other countries that also award medals of a similar name. Probably best to start a move discussion on the list/article talk page, though, before performing the move. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 13:21, 16 April 2014 (UTC)