# User talk:AySz88/Archive

## Welcome from Redwolf24

Welcome!

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. We as a community are glad to have you and thank you for creating a user account! Here are a few good links for newcomers:

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P.S. I like messages :-P

## Welcome 2

Welcome! (We can't say that loud/big enough!)

If you have any questions or problems, no matter what they are, leave me a message on my talk page.

We're so glad you're here! -- Essjay · Talk 07:54, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

## Welcomes?

Gah! Why are so many people welcoming me all of a sudden? Did I screw up an edit somewhere? >.> AySz88 08:03, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

NO! There's a welcoming committee here, and if your talk page looks empty, you're liable to get a welcome. (Also, I was watching realtime Recent Changes and saw RedWolf's welcome, so I dropped by to leave my own.) You haven't done anything wrong, we just want you to know you're welcome here! -- Essjay · Talk 08:04, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

All right :) Thanks for the links and offers to help! AySz88 08:06, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome (in the other sense of "welcome), and sorry we sacred you! -- Essjay · Talk 08:07, July 10, 2005 (UTC)

## HELP!! Need to log out other sessions

I'm hoping someone's watching the recent changes. Someone seems to have added several pages to my watchlist somehow, such as Ice Cream Truck - can someone please tell me how to log out any other computers that might be logged into this username? AySz88 21:15, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

Heh, never mind! It was because Neopets got vandalized. AySz88 21:19, July 21, 2005 (UTC)

## Of Daemons

Hi there, Thanks for correcting my part on the dæmons article. I wasn't sure whether that was the case (I had heard so), and so because I had no source to back it up, I did not write it in. I'm a big fan of HDM, and I've done a lot of things to do with dæmons, although it's Okibi of TDP you want to ask about them. However because so much is speculation (as Pullman hasn't said a lot about them himself in the books), it doesn't really fit in Wikipedia, which is a shame, because it's a deep subject. Are you a fan of Pullman's?

Yeah, I'm a friend of Kris/Okibi, and pretty much a big fan of HDM; I used to be an administrator at Bridge to the Stars. I haven't done anything in BTTS or TDP since maybe the beginning of last year, though, but I've kept in contact with Kris and Daniel. I wish that I could add more about our concept of dæmons according to fans like Okibi. But yeah, it's too small right now for Wikipedia, and honestly we'd probably start getting vandalism from the new-regime BTTS admins (though I haven't been there in a while either; maybe things are better now, but they treated us pretty badly).
Anyway, welcome to Wikipedia! :) AySz88^-^ 20:44, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
Hehe thanks, I helped re-do TDP (look at the bottom of the page, and there's my name!), although at the moment for some reason the whole page is a marquee...I think something went weird there. I have also not done a lot with BTTS or TDP, I used to be on The Dæmon Forum quite a lot. But it got really out of hand when people starting trolling it. Especially when BTTS called us all a bunch of raving lunatics. You're right, BTTS did go downhill, which is why I left that whole "scene" so to speak.

## Regarding the Neopets RfC

You should probably give it more time, as Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Style issues is not very active. There are also alternative solutions, such as asking for the opinion of editors you respect. This sort of discussion generally does not require input from more than a few people for consesus to build. Cheers, --Sn0wflake 01:06, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

The pertaining user was making "funny" articles about (presumably) real persons (in the like ness of: "....Ms. X has big b--bs...", which are considered vandalism and had consequently to be speedy deleted (that's why they don't show up in the contributions). Happy editing. Lectonar 08:41, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

## 203.214.26.233 (talk • contribs)

Hey - I'm not sure if this is the right mechanism to ask this - but I got a note from you saying I shouldn't revert the 2005 hurricane article again. I noted the request and complied with it. Now I've had another note from someone else saying that I'm being blocked for violating the rule, which I don't believe I've done. What's going on here?

## Tropical wave

It's been clarified. :) --Holderca1 04:04, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

## TS Cindy

Right now the AfD is still on-going. It'd make some comments on the AfD look ridiculous if this was done now. It can still be done later. NSLE (讨论) \<extra> 06:32, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

## Button bar

Well done with the buttons. I think the only complaint others will have is the size of the bar. I wonder if there is a way to create a transparent div or table cel such that when floating over it it always displays the tool tip. Yet that may interfere with the link. Eitherway, I will be back in about a month. --Ctrl buildtalk 15px| 15:00, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

## hdm rv

[1]

this revert was so good i laughed...

uh.. sad yes, but hey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alfakim (talkcontribs) 15:46, November 18, 2005 (UTC)

## Venn diagrams

Hello,

I made some edits to the Venn diagrams page, and you then had to mend some language things - was this because I damaged them somehow? The (chinese?) characters show up as question marks in my browser, so I'm worried that my edits might be corrupting things my browser can't handle.

I'd like to edit the Venn page some more, but will hold off until you reply. Thanks, Squiddy 10:17, 19 November 2005 (UTC) (talk)

## Storms section

Okay, the storms section gives good overview of all the storms of the season. Having something like this is called 'discussing in detail'. People read about Dennis, Emily, Katrina, Ophelia, Rita, Stan, Vince, Wilma and Alpha in the season summery. Then they say, "What about the 15 other storms of the season. Weren't there 24?" Without the storms section, the article seems incomplete. Discussing every storm in detail tells you everything you could possibly want to know about the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season. It leaves no lingering questions. Does that make sense? -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 23:08, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Compiling an article full of remaindered info is always a bad idea. If it's a tedious fact, remove it. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 05:06, 20 November 2005 (UTC)

## Vandalism revert

Hey, thanks for the vandalism revert on my user page! – Mipadi 02:36, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

## My Signature

You asked me to change my signature to {{subst:Template:User:Super-Magician/Signature}}; however, that template has another link to my other template, {{Template:User:Super-Magician/Signature_full}}. I understand that doing so reduces the load on the Wikimedia servers, but if you look at the "Signature full" template, you'll see that it is (almost) a copy of {{Template:User2}}. There is a lot of text in this template, and I don't want to clutter up the editing box with all of this stuff. -- Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 16:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your thought :). However, by doing so, I'll probably have no use for my signature templates, except for on my user page. -- Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 16:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
~Update!~ I tried placing the result of the substs in the raw signature box, but it resulted in a "Invalid raw signature - check HTML tags" error. Although it says not to use templates with this, I tried the signature with the template and it resulted in no error. Any suggestions? -- Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 17:03, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks again! -- Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 17:47, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
I fixed my signature. What you put between the <nowiki></nowiki> tags actually didn't stay that way when I viewed the page. The & (ampersand) notation changed back to regular ampersands (&). Also, when I placed exactly what you typed in my raw signature box, and tested it, the ampersands stayed as &. I ended up removing all of those but the one in the URL, and it worked fine. Thanks for all your help! -- Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 00:57, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
Don't worry about it! But, if I copied what I saw on the page, there would be no & when I pasted it into the source code. -- Super-Magician (talk • contribs • count) ★ 01:12, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

## Preview

I am using preview button to check spelling, wiki-fy text and verify links. It was not my intent to clog up recent changes or the page history. Is there a recommended way to add a significant amount of content? Peteresch 22:37, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

## SSHS

Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Scale

I hope you fixed all the double redirects. NSLE (T+C+CVU) 00:14, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

## Hurricane Katrina

I re-reverted myself because the article itself says that there were 1,384 casualties... although right now, I can't seem to find a source for that. Feel free to change that number to 1,325, though. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 04:02, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, this source, from today, says 1,323... I imagine it depends how much you broaden the area hit by the hurricane. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 04:14, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Hmm. The detailed casualties table could probably need updating too... Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 04:27, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I'm pretty sure that the newspapers we quoted got their numbers from the official state sources, so it should be safe to add them. That said, we probably should find those for ourselves... Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 04:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, that puts us in a little bit of a conundrum, doesn't it? Now I really don't know what to do... it might be a good idea to put this on the Talk page for the hurricane season, since I don't know how many editors are watching the Katrina talk page. Titoxd(?!? - did you read this?) 05:10, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

## Thank you

Thank you for fixing the problem, whatever it was. Every case I saw it before is back to normal, so good job. Hurricanehink 21:53, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

## Hurricane infoboxes

Heheh, it looks like you fixed them. Good job! -- RattleMan 21:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I cropped that image of Epsilon. I noticed the infobox on its page was getting too large, causing the article sections to wrap around it in very unattractive ways. Good kitty 15:12, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

## Esquire article

The esquire article you inquired about on Talk:Jimmy Wales (not a good place to post such questions) was Wikipedia:Improve this article about Wikipedia Raul654 06:51, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

## What?

I never attacked anyone. Certainly not intentionally. What's this about? -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 23:26, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

It wasn't out of anger, nor was it directed toward you or anyone else in particular. Apparently, several people believed that a lack of graphics (i.e. pictures, colors and other illustrations) was a problem. I was just trying to note in a comical way that I thought that fact was silly. I didn't think that was something to which offense could be easily taken. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 00:16, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

## AWB

Weird... I had already been asked that twice before. However, the spaces don't seem to affect the formatting of the page... but I will raise a question about that on the AutoWikiBrowser page. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:18, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

## You helped choose {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} as this week's WP:ACID winner

 Thank you for your support of the Article Improvement Drive. This week {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} was selected to be improved to featured article status. Hope you can help.

## You dont get it

I was on here but the block was unjust and i got it unblocked i shouldnt be branded because of unjust block (24.60.161.63 06:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC))

## Footnotes

Ok, done now. That took out half of the references in the Notes section, so it is actually readable again... :) So, want to help with the switch to m:Cite.php? ;) Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:18, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

To be honest, I don't understand it very well myself... :) But yeah, there's about 100 articles using that system on Wikipedia already. For example, see Flag of Mexico (which I'm working on), and also Jew, which really uses it to its full potential. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:38, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

## Image:Bannana1s.jpg

The source for the image I uploaded, Image:Bannana1s.jpg: http://www.dchomebrew.org/zacmcd/Pictures/bannana1s.jpg i think —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark Magician (talkcontribs)

## Thanks for the welcome!

Yah, thanks for the welcome on my talk page (and for creating it for that matter). Great to feel welcomed. Sarsaparilla39 11:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

## User boxes

To be honest, that is what I would like too, just to keep them that way, eliminating the categories (which leaves the Whatlinkshere method of watching who has transcluded them), and just punishing those who abuse the system. Just that over the last few days, my confidence in our policing/dispute resolution process has been shaken considerably, so I'm not completely sure that throwing more subjectivity to the issue will work. That said, I would strongly endorse what you propose.

By the way, thanks for the kind comments on my talk page. :) I'm not going to leave permanently, but I'm going to be just coming here every now and then until the stress from this situation goes away completely. I just wish all the admins had cooler heads, like yours, and politely engaged in discussion, like you did. You'd make a fine admin... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:50, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

It won't allow me to upload a new image with the same file name as the old one for Tropical Storm Zeta. Maybe you need to do it since you were the original author. Here are the links: [2] to here [3] Good kitty 22:56, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

## Neopets

You're welcome ^^ I noticed that my favorite pets (Fuzios, JubJubs, and Kikos) didn't have much in their sections, so I started with them, but it gets addicting :D -Togemon 04:17, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

## Moving pages

I moved the article, Hurricane Ophelia to Hurricane Ophelia (2005). But it is not retired and it will be used for the 2011 season. (See Lists of tropical cyclone names). ApprenticeFan - 23:03 UTC

## subst:clear

Why do you subst:clear in the 2005 AHS? Seems to me it's a lot more readible and, well, cleaner in the template form. And yes I'm aware of so-called technical issues with heavily-used templates. Jdorje 04:09, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

That would be the answer I'm looking for I guess. Sigh. Jdorje 04:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
If we're suppose to subst: it then we should. I just find it annoying. Jdorje 04:29, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

## Dab pages

We could easily change it to accept both cases; it just uses a {{switch}} template. However you can also easily see the ones with invalid classes given, in Category:Unassessed_hurricane_articles. Jdorje 19:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Not sure why I didn't make it accept both cases...I just thought it would be better to enforce consistency. In the long run it will probably be slightly easier if each class just has one possible name. Jdorje 19:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
And also BTW, I have stopped going through the articles in a consisten fashion; now I just assess them as they show up in the above category. Jdorje 19:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Most annoying problem is that just fixing the hurricane template isn't enough to recategorize the articles. They won't get automatically recategorized for some time. Jdorje 19:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

## Flcelloguy's Tool

Hello, AySz88. Since you are an advanced Java programmer, you might be interested in the Flcelloguy's Tool program. We've been working on it for quite a while now, and since we're in the Atlantic "off-season" (if Alberto doesn't play us a joke), you might have the time to help us. I've been trying to code it, but I'm not a Java programmer, I'm a "native" QBasic coder, and I'm trying to see if I can find other users who want to help or have any suggestions as to what to do. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 23:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, right now we don't have hosting (that's soon to change, though :)), so the only way to do so is to send you the JAR file from the current version on an email. I'd need your email address first, though, so send me an email (unless you want to release your email address under the GFDL... which I imagine you don't! :P) if you are interested it. Before you do so, though, which IDE are you using? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 00:16, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, I'm using Eclipse too, so that shouldn't be a problem. :) By the way, I'm going to send you the JAR file for the "Stable" version (the one I have on the subpage). There's been a few features added, but they haven't been tested properly, and I'll merge the codes when they are released, ok? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 00:28, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, Flcelloguy is working on the PurgeContribs class, but everything else is fair game. For now, I'd recommend just running it and getting used to it, and thinking of things you could do with it, after all, you can't code something you don't know where to code, right? :). Titoxd(?!? - help us) 00:53, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering, did you receive the file? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:11, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Ok. I just wanted to know if GMail had screwed it up or not. :P Thanks! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:14, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
By the way, you can sign up at Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters, which is where the tool has moved to. We're going to collaborate with Interiot, who has an account on the Toolserver, which lets us do some pretty things! :P Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:18, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, I had begun automating it a little bit, but I keep running into a many problems. Here's a copy of my code right now [4]
The hello at the end is just to tell me that file reading had finished. However, I keep getting a time-out after about 2000 edits... but it seems that the method you're using is better. Tell me if you want to have a crack at it and make a commit. I'm working with ParseContribs.java, but you're free to play with the rest of the files. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 20:47, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I'm being nosy again. :) That's great news that you might be able to get the tool to fetch pages itself. Once you get this working, perhaps it's not much more difficult to also fetch the Special:Export page as described here, and thus move the script towards working on non-English servers? I mention this again, because there are wikipedia sites (ko is one, I think) that don't have their databases replicated to the toolserver, and thus users on those sites aren't able to do any sort of automated edit-counting. --Interiot 19:29, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

• By the way, I've played around a bit with your code. I'm putting it on your sandbox right now, so you can have a look at it (but I haven't removed the debugging echo prints). Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:28, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
• Looks great! :D I'm not sure how costly a killbit query is, but the &action=raw method does not need the page to be rendered, which is where the Wikimedia servers are strained the most. The only thing I would do is to make getSourceDirect(URL) private (I've already done so in my local copy without problems) and cache the killbit per query (that is, if you're making four page requests, make the program read the killbit just once). Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:49, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
• Sorry for being under the radar the last few days, I've been a bit busy. We could move all discussion to a centralized page, but that would probably be something that we could do later, as we still are a small group that can work by pinging a few talk pages. :) As for the GUI, do whatever you think is most useful. That is really something I don't know how to do, and basically worked by looking at examples. Just make sure you keep the new ResultsFrame.java in a JFrame and to make sure that the function calls are done correctly. I've also seen that you've worked on integrating getContribs() with the rest of the program, and that is excellent. The only thing I would say is to keep the Stats.mainSingle() and Stats.mainMulti() functions as backups/backward-compatibility tools. So, just create a mainParse() function or something and you'll be all right.
• Also, Your hashmap function is spiffy! :D We might want to combine it with Contrib.nameSpaceArray, to finish off internationalization... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 02:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

## My ambiguous comment

I meant that I felt you were acting imperiously in handling matters relating to the removal of the storms secton. You, among others, seemed to have a complete disregard for other people's objections to the change. Also, you seem to be very willing to revert anyone who tries to make big changes that you disagree with without discussing it first. That's just my perception. I used "imperious" mainly for lack of a better word. -- §Hurricane ERIC§ archive -- my dropsonde 05:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

From what I've seen, you just seem to be refuting other peoples' objections instead of understanding or attempting to understand them; or trying to reach a compromise. You just keep saying no and repeating the same reasons over and over again as if you had not even read the previous comment. If you did read those posts, you never seemed to understand them. Bottom line: I think you need to be more accepting or show more acceptance toward peoples' views. -- §Hurricane ERIC§ archive -- my dropsonde 06:30, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Source info for the Star Tiger Disappearance (which I'm considering making into a full article and linking) in Bermuda Triangle given in the Discussion section of the article. --Chr.K. 16:46, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

## 2005 AHS References discussion

Copied from my talk page:

I removed the links to the NHC archives because the ultimate goal is to use only storm reports (and HPC archives) as references. Directing people to the NHC archives is unhelpful as it forces the reader to sift through the NHC's archive for information. This can't be helped with the HPC, but it can be helped for the NHC. Right now many storms are unreferenced, but they'll all be referenced by about March. - Cuivienen 02:09, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

## Toolcruft 4.0

Ah, midterms. I know, those are horrible (I'm just restarting school, but my courseload is heavier this semester than last), and don't worry about it, school comes before any other obligation.

As for Eric's comment. Well, I think it comes from honest frustation of having developed a system after hard work, and to see it modified, criticized and sometimes discarded completely (like we did with the storm color pallette). He offers comments on being better at compromising; regardless of what we've done in the past, that is always good advice. So, while you shouldn't be worried about whether you did things in a bad manner (which you didn't), you can also try to keep improving, by making an effort to understand where other users come from. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm not that sure it is a race condition - it seems to be more of a manual revert, and then valid edits being added, without all of the vandalism being corrected. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:42, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
My page seems fine, but the Hurricane Katrina article seems messed up, definitely. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:50, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Argh, I've been stuck several days on PurgeContribs.java... try running 5000 of my contribs in, and you'll see that it dies when it tries to process one diff in my sandbox (which you can see here). The only way I thought to solve it was to go around it by processing the entire edit summary (as delimited by tags), but if there are nested spans inside it breaks, unless I can find how many s are nested inside... any clue as to what to do? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:20, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Wow, I was just writing about that! Try feeding 500 of my contribs and it runs fine. But if you run 5000, it runs into one that has a malformed edit summary (it is missing the "-" before , and the exception is not handled, so the thread dies... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:22, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
I tried that, and it didn't work very well. The problem is when the source code has something like ), it triggers the bug. Are you parsing your contribs? Because I can find out which edit is causing the problem... I've configured my Eclipse to see which edit is triggering the exception. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 21:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Ah! This is the diff that's killing it: [5]. It creeps out when you don't leave an edit summary, but you leave an section edit autocomment. Hmm... is there a way to split a String to find "" in the middle? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The thing is, if you do String.split("<"), you get <a href's (from the link to the section via the right arrow) and all kinds of nasty things. I don't like Tokenizers much either, but the other method (iterate the string and compare character by character) seems UGLY (and slow). By the way, I use User:EvilCat's contribs to test the tool too. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:09, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... the only problem that that method had was that the top edit (marked by <strong> (top)</strong>) appears after the edit summary, so the tokenizer could not be discarded... but then, we could process it beforehand, by using String.contains("<strong> (top)</strong>"). So, I'll try to have a hack at it later, when I finish having lunch. Thanks! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 22:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

### Rain dance

/me does the rain dance ^_^ Finally, I resolved the bug!!! :D I posted the updated code at the WikiProject's source code page. So, now we need to merge your code together so we can do a release to 4.00. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 01:42, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Huh? It didn't do that for me... and that part of the program hasn't given me any trouble before. Are you parsing your own contributions? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:12, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, I just ran it again, and it didn't say anything... I also didn't change that part of the code, so it shouldn't be saying anything! :| Try recompliling it and hopefully it works... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:21, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Ah, that's better. I was scared for a second. However, isn't it possible to change the encoding in getContribs() to Unicode? I remember reading something like that a long time ago, but I can't remember where (not needed, though). Perhaps changing StringBuilder to StringBuffer would help? (no clue) Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:05, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

### Namespace class

I was actually going to go over it right now, but it would be better if you gave a small description of what it does, so I know what to look for... ;) Where does the class store the editing statistics, for example? That could replace a lot of crude code in Stats.editcount() and Contrib.namespaceArray... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:39, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, a few notes on Namespace.java:

1. It should be able to process a Contrib() object directly. That class is not going to change per the API I'm using, and if it does, it should implement new methods, instead of overriding old ones. Besides, PurgeContribs(), Contrib's parent class, is now working correctly, and I've tested it by throwing 10000 edits at it, so it should be safe to rely on it.
2. If I analyzed it correctly, (which I'm not sure I did), it does not have all possible combinations of edit summaries (a bore, I know):
1. Minor edit with autosummary and manual summary
2. Minor edit with autosummary, no manual summary
3. Minor edit no autosummary, but with manual summary
4. Minor edit with neither autosummary nor manual summary
5. Major edit with autosummary and manual summary
6. Major edit with autosummary, no manual summary
7. Major edit no autosummary, but with manual summary
8. Major edit with neither autosummary nor manual summary
3. I don't get TreeSet completely, but if I understand correctly, you could run an edit analysis similar to Interiot's contribution tree, just by making calls to newArticleArray? :D
4. This class completely overrides Contrib.namespaceArray (which is unused), so probably this class can be initialized by calling it from there? (Not sure)
5. Question: what happens if the server connection times out?

Overall, great job! Two thumbs up!!! :D Titoxd(?!? - help us) 07:12, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

No, we can't process Nm / N marks from Special:Contributions, as they don't appear in the output that's processed by the tool. However, being able to use TreeMaps to do something like the contrib tree (and perhaps even make date-restricted queries?) is certianly helpful. As for the UI, perhaps what it would require is a new internal frame, with the namespaces on the left, and once a namespace is clicked, it can show up more detailed contributions; then we could have a "global" button to see contributions for all namespaces. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 01:10, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... I thought that Namespace() stored the Contribs themselves? (And yeah, it might become a memory hog, and that's why it is only a secondary feature of the tool, not the main purpose) ;) Contrib() can be extended to receive the date as a String, and then convert it inside with a .getDateLong() or something, which shouldn't be hard to do (if I figure out how to do it), so I'll try to do that. But it's more urgent to integrate Namespace() and GetContribs() to process the capabilities that are already coded. :) Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I posted a copy of the draft at User:Titoxd/Sandbox. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, but it keeps throwing an exception... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:42, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
I've fixed the code, it can now assign the date inside a GregorianCalendar() (just like the Namespace() class), but for some reason I can't figure out, it is ignoring the time. Any ideas? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... it's not doing it now. Weird. As for the extra seconds: I see what you mean, and I've fixed it now. You can call Contrib.getDate() and it should work now. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:31, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if you've gotten the same version as me, but I've posted an updated version of Contrib.java on the Java Sandbox. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 03:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

## Thank you for voting!

Hello there! I wanted to thank you for taking the time to vote on my arbitration commitee nomination. Although it was not successful, I appreciate the time you spent to read my statement and questions and for then voting, either positively or negativly. Again, thank you! Páll (Die pienk olifant) 22:48, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

## Deleted page

Restored, please make it more encyclopedic, right now it's just a list which really serves no purpose but to annoy people who hate long lists. NSLE (T+C) 01:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Take your time, but so long as the page is not linked to from any page - it wouldn't looks nice, would it now. NSLE (T+C) 03:07, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

## Vandal

Immediately and indefinately. The same person/s has made about 12 impostor accouts in the last hour.--nixie 01:19, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

## Loop current

Hmm, it seems most (but not quite all) places do capitalize it. If people just start capitalizing something, at what point does it become a proper noun? I guess it could go either way...I don't really care that much. Jdorje 05:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

## Stan

The NHC end-of-season summary is quite clear, as is the NCDC season page: the 2500 deaths were not related to stan at all. The only question is whether the TCR will agree. Jdorje 05:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

## The Metamorphosis -- d'oh!

Thanks for catching that -- sorry I wasn't more diligent in my editing, I figured that section had been merged in somewhere else, and that artifact had been left over. Ah, if only editing in good faith always meant editing in perfection! Cheers, and thanks again, JDoorjam Talk 00:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

## Moral panic and wikipedia

Howdy! I saw your note in WP:AN wondering if there was anything in Wikipedia namespace about moral panic. I started work on a possible suggested guideline to the effect and would like your feedback: User:Chairboy/Panic. Thanks! - CHAIRBOY () 07:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thank you for telling me about it! It's nice writing, and I'm reading it over. It seems like it concentrates more a "slow down" kind of message than a moral panic kind of "don't panic", though that isn't a bad thing. It's definately applicable to a moral panic kind of situation, but I thought that maybe something more specific against moral panics might be needed.... There are things like POV or factuality issues with them in general, and many panics are generated outside of Wikipedia by the general media without people being aware of them; I think your paragraph focuses on panics triggered within Wikipedia. Maybe it's just because you didn't start with the "molesting dogs" example early in the paragraph, so the context ("someone has said something") seems unclear?
Maybe replace "like to molest dogs" with "would like to molest dogs", as AFAIK molesting dogs is illegal and can be reported to police (I think it might fall under Cruelty to animals or something)? Raul654 also posted at WP:AN about a possible new guideline "Don't put anything on your userpage that could bring the project into disrepute", which might significantly affect the "The press!" part of your examples.
Sorry I'm being so nitpicky! Thanks for showing it to me. :) --AySz88^-^ 08:03, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Great feedback, thanks! Please feel free to edit it yourself to make the changes if you feel it has potential to expand into something for the project. Thanks! - CHAIRBOY () 08:07, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

## WP:DFA

Well, it seems that they need a guinea pig for the new process. Want to volunteer? I'm pretty sure you would be an ideal candidate for an RFA, so I'm quite tempted to nominate you. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 07:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, since I'm trying to do homework (but I keep being distracted by the userbox wars... man, what a night!), I'll hold off on it until tomorrow. But here you have this, by the way: Titoxd(?!? - help us) 07:33, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Eep! As I was looking through your contribs for a more detailed analysis, I saw that you got very small participation on WP:AFD and WP:RFA (and I really recommend you go over there a few times). Some users take exceptions to low participation there, so I'll postpone the nomination until you tell me you feel comfortable with your level of experience, all right? But I've got first dibs on you! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

## Point me in the right direction, please

Let me first say that I am a retired chemical engineer and I just got started in the Wiki world a few weeks ago in one of the WikiCities at http://atmosphericdispersion.wikicities.com/wiki/Main_Page. In posting some technical articles there, I learned how to use their version of the math markup language. Here is an example mathematical formula developed with their math markup language: .

Then I moved here to the Wikipedia where I learned how to use the version of the math markup language available here and this is the same equation using the Wikipedia math markup: $Q\;=\;C\;A\;P\;\sqrt{\bigg(\frac{\;\,k\;M}{Z\;R\;T}\bigg)\bigg(\frac{2}{k+1}\bigg)^{(k+1)/(k-1)}}$

In my opinion, the math markup language version available at the WikiCities is remarkably smaller and more tidy than the math markup version available here at the Wikipedia. Being smaller and tidier, it allows for longer formulas without having to "wrap" them or break them into two parts.

I would like to suggest that the proper people at Wikipedia consider making the WikiCities version also available here ... not necessarily to replace what is available here, but to offer the WikiCities version as an alternative option.

As new as I am to all this, I don't know who to contact or where to make this suggestion. Can you help me?

Thanks in advance. mbeychok 04:16, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Mbeychok is archiving his talk page entries after reading them, which concealed my message to him which may be of interest to you. I found a way to implement the smaller font which he prefers by using the begin{matrix} tag:
$Q\;=\,C\,A\,P\,\sqrt\begin{matrix}{\left(\frac{\;k\;M}{Z\;R\;T}\right)\left(\frac{2}{k+1}\right)^{(k+1)/(k-1)}}\end{matrix}$
I don't know what is different about the coding at the Wikicities site, either. --Blainster 11:13, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Just some comments that might clear up some confusion:
• The writeup on how to use TeX markup is the same at WikiCities as at Wikipedia because they both use TeX.
• Note that the developers at Bugzilla named my suggested bug as "Use Wikicities' TeX fonts for rendering math on Wikimedia projects". That indicates to me that the fonts used at WikiCities are smaller than the fonts used at Wikipedia even though they both use the same markup methodology.
• I did a search here on Wikipedia for TeX and for LaTex and found articles for both of them. If you read those, it becomes obvious that there are literally dozens of versions and implementations of Tex. It is my guess that WikiCities just has a version that uses a smaller font.
Thanks to both of you for your help and interest. mbeychok 16:58, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

## Yet more Toolcruft

Ok, I finally was able to fix Eclipse, so I can run the tool again. How far are you on the tool? Whenever you want me to have a look, put the code on the sandbox, ok? :) Titoxd(?!? - help us) 02:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I think I fixed the namespaces bug. I'll have a look at the other one now... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 03:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
I've updated the Sandbox with the new code. I made a very... spaghetticized function of code, as for some reason I can't figure out how to use OR in Java correctly... :S However, the function itself should work. I've also updated Stats.java a bit, so it reads the diff link, but it doesn't do anything with it yet. I want for it not be read automatically, to avoid a DOS attack venue, but rather for the Tool to say, "5000 diffs read. Click yes to continue" or something similar. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
I was able to make it work! :). The updated code is now in the sandbox. The only thing we have to do is to look at it, make sure it works, make the code more efficient, and then, parse and compile to release the JAR... :D Titoxd(?!? - help us) 02:48, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

### Tool error

It's throwing me this error when I try to load my contributions:

Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've made a bit of changes to Namespace.java and Contrib.java, and the code is available on the Sandbox. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:03, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, the method I implemented in Namespace configures a "default" map if for some reason the call to GetContribs() fails (for example, if the kill bit is set), only that i don't know where to call it from. Perhaps in the catch block of Namespace.getNamespaceTreeMap()? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:29, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Hmm... it seems you're not identified to services, so it doesn't let you send me messages... as for the tool, we should probably put a popup message when GetContrib is running that says, "Connecting to en.wikipedia.org" or something similar. Then, I was trying to add a progress bar when it was downloading the data, but that is a GUI tool, so I'm not really comfortable doing it... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:41, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Well, the version on the Sandbox from this afternoon is actually more recent than the JAR I sent you... I sent the JAR because several beta-testers requested new copies of the software, so I just went out and emailed everyone who might have wanted one. And don't worry, I know what you're talking about. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 03:06, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

## Valentines Day

User:Tawker wishes you a happy and fun Valentines Day —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tawker (talkcontribs) 04:40, February 14, 2006 (UTC)

## WP:RFA/Quarl

Hi AySz88, thanks for your support in my RFA, which succeeded. If I can ever improve or help in any way, please let me know! :) Quarl (talk) 2006-02-16 12:16Z

## RFA Thanks!

 Thank you! Hello AySz88/Archive, and thank you for your support in my request for adminship! It passed with a final count of 98/2/0. If there is anything I can do to help you, please leave me a message on my talk page! -- xaosflux Talk

## Thank you!

Thank you very much for your support during my recent Admin election, I appreciate the trust that you have put in me. Please contact me if you have any questions, comments or concerns regarding my work as an admin.

Kind Regards, Elf-friend 09:44, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

## My RfA

Thank you for your support of my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA ultimately succeeded with a final consensus of 52/1/0, so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any comments regarding my editing, or I can help you at any point in the future, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!
UkPaolo/talk 11:00, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

## My RFA

Thank you for supporting me in my successful RFA. The admin tools will definitely be useful for dealing with vandalism more swiftly. Please drop a note on my talk page, should you have questions about any of my actions. --Aude (talk | contribs) 01:30, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

## F5 as maximum possible rating

You added the derivation info for the Fujita scale to the article recently, I'm not sure what your thoughts are on this, but I request your input on wording tornado events as F5 as rated maximum possible, specifically Tri-State Tornado with discussion at Talk:Tri-State Tornado. If you don't wish to do so, that's fine, I'm just looking for relatively knowledgeable and interested people to render their input. Evolauxia 03:14, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Evolauxia 10:22, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

## My RfA

With apologies for the impersonal AWB-ness of the message... Thanks for your support on my recent request for adminship. It passed at 91/1/0, and I hope I can continue to deserve the community's trust. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you, and if I make a mistake be sure to tell me. My talk page is always open. (ESkog)(Talk) 02:23, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

## Thanks

I just wanted to say thank you for voting for my RFA, of course if you ever need a hand, let me know :) - cohesiontalk 00:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

## RfA thanks

Thank you for voting on my RfA, it passed with a final tally of 68/0/0 so I'm now an administrator. If there's anything I can do to help, you feel I've done something wrong, or there's just something you want to tell, don't hesitate to use my talk page. Thanks. - Bobet 10:36, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

## My RfA

 Hi! Thanks for your support in my request for adminship (did you know that "adminiship" is not an English word? Unbelievable!). It ended with a tally of (51/0/0). As an administrator, I hope to better help this project and its participants: if you have any question or request, please let me know. - Liberatore(T) 12:27, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

## conditional support

Check out my "Conditional Support" entry on the userbox poll page. I'm curious to see what you think.    GUÐSÞEGN   – UTEX – 20:03, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

## Thanks for refactoring

My additional ~ on the userbox poll page. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 01:08, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

This probably doesn't provide for a reduction of Erdős number. See the last paragraph of the article before #See Also for possible anomalies. Also, see the readme page of the Erdös Number Project for their definition.

Our criterion for inclusion of an edge between vertices u and v is some research collaboration between them resulting in a published work. Any number of additional co-authors is permitted. Not normally included are joint editorships, introductions to books written by others, technical reports, problem sessions, problems posed or solved in problem sections of journals, seminars, very elementary textbooks, books on history, memorial or other tributes, biography, translations, bibliographies, or popular works. Now, if we were to collborate on a math paper in WikiBooks — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 01:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I'd like your thoughts on a brainstorm I've tried to articulate here: User:Leifern/Adminwatch idea. And feel free to spread the word. --Leifern 16:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

## Chart timezones

Eastern Standard-New York, Atlanta, W. DC, Miami WikieZach| talk 05:02, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

well umm...I don't pay attention to things, heh. I'm a forgetful lil foxie for one..and well...stuff ^^;. Thanks though for the help ^_^. And thanks for pointing out the dead link.

I left a comment to him cuz I looked here and didn't see my topic thingy, so...just assumed it was misplaced or something. I d'no. Luca Sunday, March 5 1:03 PM (EST)

## Charts

If you feel the charts should be removed from the poll you should remove them. Right now the only people that have weighed in on it are me, you and gmaxwell, and he keeps adding more and more arbitrary facts. If you remove it he will be forced to wait for another user to agree that they should be in there since we are both 3rr'ed out. It will force discussion. Seraphim 00:14, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

## Thank you

Thank you for your help, and I was wondering if I may have a little more. I tried to make a talk page, but everything went in a big pink box and all the words spill out and go WAY off the page. Thank you,

~SD

Thanks for responding to the user for me; I think they were trying to contact User:Mahlum and somehow got me instead. Essjay TalkContact 10:56, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

## Sorry

That was me on my Userpage. I apologize if I appeared to be vandalizing myself (not that you knew it was me). I didn't want to clog "my contributions" with unneeded 'contributions', but as "my contributions" can apparently not be clogged, I'll go ahead and log on every time I want to edit my Userpage.

Kids Next Door, Battle Stations! 5:10, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

## Larry and NPA

It wouldn't qualify for a block, but it would certainly warrant a talk on their page. However, I've warned him on the talk page already, and I'm fairly sure he reads it, so he's been warned now... Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:42, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

## The User Page

Just a small question, but I was wondering if it is possible to overfill one's userpage with information. Hopefully, the answer is no, but I just want to be sure. KND Expert Numbuh ??? 07:17, 1 April 2006

I see you make lots of edits to Neopets. I have made a proposition with the links. Care to have a look at it and tell me what you think? J.J.Sagnella 06:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

## Qif

Nah, the MediaWiki parser can handle some pipes, it's the table pipes that bother it (and I went with HTML so there's no table markup except the stuff that starts/ends the table). Turned out I had the logic backwards. Which sucks because I read over it once, thought I understood it, but figured it was being tricky so went about it another way; it seems my first thoughts were correct and I should have gone with those. At least, I think it looks correct now. =) I haven't found any pages which use the "piconly" (or "onlypic" or something) parameter. :| Now to wait for the hate mail to roll in if it did break. :( —Locke Coletc 07:58, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

## School IP

Email sent to User:Hall Monitor at 18:13, 7 April 2006 (UTC):

Hi! A while ago, it appears that you blocked 69.74.63.194, the computer network of Syosset High School, indicating in the block summary that you would like the system administrator to contact you. However, there aren't any details in that summary, so could you please clarify what you would like the administrator to do? Thank you!

Happy editing,
w:User:AySz88

## Re: Image

That's not the issue, but thanks for the suggestion. What happens is that the image does not load correctly in Firefox (it looks like a giant field of static and incorrect pixels), however it loads fine in IE. I'm sure it just has something to do with my browser settings, just not sure which. --tomf688{talk} 11:42, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

## Editcounter

Well, Interiot's tool is effectively broken now, but I can't spend much time on Wiki for the next week, so could you take care of making sure Flcelloguy's tool is ready for heavy usage? There was a little change to the Special:Contributions page output, but I really don't have time to fix it. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 02:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Tested, and there were no problems. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:00, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
Hello, AySz88: great work on the tool! I really appreciate your efforts. Anyways, it seems like the JAR file isn't downloading properly anymore; see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject edit counters/Flcelloguy's Tool#JAR file timing out, where we'd appreciate your input. Thanks a lot! Flcelloguy (A note?) 01:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Ditto. Wikipedia without editcountitis is a strange place. savidan(talk) (e@) 18:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
It's possible that its just my computer, but all three links are timing out. savidan(talk) (e@) 18:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! I think that both Interiot and Lar have offered hosting and filespace in the past from a scan of the talk page; you may wish to check with them and see if an arrangement is possible. Thanks again! Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:03, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

We don't need it anymore! [6] :D Titoxd(?!? - help us) 23:55, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. I appreciate it. Very important to the community, especially with Interiot down. savidan(talk) (e@) 08:53, 20 April 2006 (UTC)