User talk:BD2412

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I wanted to make sure you were aware of the discussion at Talk:Military occupation of France#Dab page, since you previously edited the associated page. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 00:40, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Deletion review for Category:Pseudoscientists[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Pseudoscientists. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. This is a limited reconsideration of one element of the decision, not a call for a reversal of the entire renaming. Mangoe (talk) 01:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)


Thanks for cleaning up the incoming links to Doors. I was just getting to that myself. I'm glad I didn't get any more messages angrily pointing me to WP:FIXDABLINKS. It's a good "code of honor" for unilateral actors, but I wish it made an explicit exception for discussion closers. RM and RfD are backlogged already; we really don't need to add an extra burden on closers. Perhaps in turn the onus could be placed on the requester and/or supporters, though that could also chill discussion. --BDD (talk) 17:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

  • My pleasure. Cheers! bd2412 T 17:35, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

June 2014[edit]

Super Disambiguator's Barnstar.png The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar
The Super Disambiguator's Barnstar is awarded to the winners of the Disambiguation pages with links monthly challenge, who have gone above and beyond to remove ambiguous links. Your achievment will be recorded at the Hall of Fame.
This award is presented to BD2412, for successfully fixing 4457 links in the challenge of May 2014. Rcsprinter123 (gossip) @ 18:12, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Template:Did you know nominations/Minette (ore) at the Did You Know nominations page is not complete; see step 3 of the nomination procedure. If you do not want to continue with the nomination, tag the nomination page with {{db-g7}}, or ask a DYK admin. Thank you. DYKHousekeepingBot (talk) 06:17, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Disambig links[edit]

Hi BD2412, thanks for your contributions.

How you solve that many disambig links under 1 minute? OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 12:14, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Is there any particular minute to which you are referring? I generally use AWB. I have it loaded with the most likely solutions to the most common offenders (links like heavy metal, Spanish, battery, etc.), and can run through the list of all links to all of these pages, clicking all the fixes that are correct and adjusting those that are not. bd2412 T 13:26, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for providing me an idea. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 16:02, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Uh-oh. bd2412 T 16:03, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

State Bar of Texas[edit]

Dear BD 2412: User Lulaq and/or IP has been adding what I contend is personal POV to the article on the State Bar of Texas that is not found in the material he cites. He/she reverts, claiming that his material is actually found in the source materials, which I believe is false. I'd appreciate your looking at that. Yours, Famspear (talk) 19:21, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I've removed several of the statements that were clearly not sourced (especially the WP:BLP violation at the end of the section). I also started a talk page discusssion that highlights the specific sections that were unsourced and what was needed plus left a note on the editors talk page. Based on their current sources, that section probably should be 1-2 sentences long. Removing the worst unsourced parts and pointing them to what's needed may help out somewhat. That entire section smells like an attack on the person mentioned at the though. Ravensfire (talk) 20:28, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, Ravensfire! bd2412 T 23:02, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

COI RfC[edit]

Hi BD, your name was mentioned over at the COI RFC (now withdrawn, or on hold). I see you didn't vote in the 4 main RfCs in November. Have you expressed an opinion on the recent COI questions, do you have a fixed position, and would you like to be one of the closers? - Dank (push to talk) 03:09, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I won't have the time to address an issue of this scope for at least a few weeks. bd2412 T 14:11, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Sure thing. If you find you do have time in the future, please feel free to jump in. - Dank (push to talk) 14:24, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Leaflet For Wikiproject Disambiguation At Wikimania 2014[edit]

I noticed that you took interest in getting a leaflet printed for Wikiproject Disambiguation at Wikimania 2014. However, you have not submitted it yet. If you want to have your leaflet displayed, then the submission deadline is 1st July 2014.


Kind regards,

Adikhajuria (talk) 17:36, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Continental Motor Manufacturing Company[edit]

Hi BD2412. Everyone but Wikipedia knows about a business called Continental Motor Manufacturing Company which I guess is the same as Wikipedia calls Continental Motors Company. I see you have made a number of edits to that article and I wondered if you would mind if I corrected the company's name. Of course that might be a mistake and that's why I first write to you. Regards, Eddaido (talk) 12:07, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Greetings! The correct method for requesting a page move is outlined at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Cheers! bd2412 T 13:44, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
Thankyou! I now find a reliable statement as follows "abbbreviated to Continental Motors Company in February 1916 . . . 2nd January 1917 incorporated in Virginia as Continental Motors Corporation". . . ahhh. I would be very pleased to email a scan of a couple of pages from this detailed source to anyone prepared to write up the info for the WP article, in the meantime I'm finding it hard enough to read the rest of The Bullnose and Flatnose Morris by Jarman and Barraclough. Thank you for your time and patience, (squirm). Eddaido (talk) 02:03, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Garbage genres discussion[edit]

Hello. You're a past editor in the Garbage articles, would you mind giving your input on the latest discussion? Talk:Garbage_(band)#Genres. --Lpdte77 (talk) 01:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

No thanks, I have only ever been an incidental editor of those articles. Cheers! bd2412 T 13:05, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Please help[edit]

Please have a look at this and help if possible, I have no idea who to turn to with this so I'm trying to contact more experienced Wikipedians.

--Samotny Wędrowiec (talk) 22:47, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

  • I'm afraid this is outside of my competency. bd2412 T 15:25, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
Hey BD2412, thanks for bringing this up. I had seen this user posting the same message on other talk pages.[1] After your reply I checked what he actually wanted and I've removed that attack post.[2] OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 15:30, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks for letting me know. Cheers! bd2412 T 15:44, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

A little help, please?[edit]

Template_talk:US_Constitutional_Tax_Law Thanks. -- Foofighter20x (talk) 18:36, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Make Social identity a WP:Disambiguation page or not?[edit]

Hey, BD2412. Several hours earlier today, after reading Sillyfolkboy's commentary in this section at the Wikipedia:Categorization/Ethnicity, gender, religion and sexuality talk page, I noticed that the Social identity link redirects to the Social identity theory article. I was surprised because there is also the Identity (social science) article, and "social identity" usually is not considered a theory (except for in the context of the social identity theory topic), but rather as something a person simply has. Given that there is a Identity (social science), Social identity theory, Self-concept and Personal identity article, topics that can all mean "social identity," it seems to me that the Social identity link should be a WP:Disambiguation page.

I've temporarily put your talk page on my WP:Watchlist, so there is no need to ping me to this discussion if you reply. Flyer22 (talk) 03:23, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I think that it is more likely that the target is wrong, and that the primary topic of the term is Identity (social science) (or that Identity (social science) should be moved to Social identity). The theory is just a theory about the organization of that kind of identity, and both Self-concept and Personal identity seem like subtopics or tangentially related concepts, making this more suitable for dabconcept then disambiguation. bd2412 T 03:30, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I was also thinking that this may be a WP:BROADCONCEPT matter, or that at least one or more aspects of it are a WP:BROADCONCEPT matter. What page do you think is the best page to start a discussion about this so that WP:Consensus may be achieved regarding it? Perhaps at Talk:Social identity, after removing the redirect that's there? Wherever we start a discussion about it for wider input, we should employ WP:TALKCENT. Flyer22 (talk) 03:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
My friend, in the words of Meat Loaf, let me sleep on it, I'll give you an answer in the morning. bd2412 T 03:47, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
LOL!! Okay. Flyer22 (talk) 03:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
The more I think about it, the more I think that this should just point to Identity (social science). bd2412 T 19:03, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Given the message on the Social identity page, how do you think I should handle redirecting that page to the Identity (social science) article? I was simply going to redirect it there while pointing to this discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 13:44, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

WP:INTDABLINK problem[edit]

Please see the recent history of Typhoon Neoguri (2014). At least two users have reverted my edits to the hatnote. I'll try a nice post on the talk page, but I doubt it will do much good. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 18:08, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I will keep an eye on it. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:59, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
While im not going to be removing any disambiguation links or doing anything to the disambiguation hatnotes and do not wish to open a can of worms. Wikipedia:Disambiguation including WP:INTDABLINK is only a Guideline and not a Policy like you have told two users.Jason Rees (talk) 11:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
As far as I recall, we had a separate discussion on WP:INTDABLINK at one point, and found an uncontested consensus to make it a policy rather than a guideline, even though it remains on the WP:DAB page. However, the more important factor is that direct links to disambiguation pages seriously harm the efforts of disambiguators to fix errors, and we have numerous sub-projects directed towards fixing just these. Editors who revert these fixes are doing no more to help Wikipedia than editors who revert a link to a specific "John Smith" to instead point to the disambiguation page John Smith because the syntax looks neater. bd2412 T 12:30, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Removal of shared IP headers on talk pages?[edit]

Hello. Just curious as to why you are removing the shared IP header templates on the talk pages of anonymous editors [3]. According to WP:USER, these sorts of "templates and notes left to indicate other users share the same IP address and/or to whom the IP is registered" are on the list of things that should not be removed from user talk pages. Regards, — Kralizec! (talk) 13:38, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

This is as approved in this discussion: Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 110#Bot blank and template really, really, really old IP talk pages. These are pages from which no edits have been made in the past five years (or more some have even had no edits for over ten years). IP addresses can be dynamic (and were more so just a few years ago), so we can't as a rule say that the IP address is still shared or registered as it was five years ago. Moreover, if no edits have been made from an IP address in five years, it's a safe bet that it's not accessible to the general public at all, and there is no point in having anything at all on the page. Removing the content from these pages then makes it easier to find relevant pages when searching the "what links here" for links that had previously had instances on that page. bd2412 T 13:44, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for the speedy reply. Please forgive my confusion, but your proposal at VPP was for when "no edits have been made by the IP within the last seven years" (emphasis yours), above you said five years, and glancing at the bot's most recent run, I see that the second to last blanked page [4] was for an IP that last edited 4 years 8 months ago [5]. So is it 7 years, 5 years, 4 years, or something else? If the stated goal is to reduce the number of unnecessary links to dab pages, perhaps the bot could just remove all of the ancient warnings (with their dab links), but leave the IP headers (which rarely link to dab pages) in place? Regards, — Kralizec! (talk) 17:29, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
The proposal was seven years, although some supporters would have preferred even lower thresholds. That, however, was for having this done automatically by a bot (i.e. without even needing human supervision). I have actually been making these edits manually, assisted by AWB. I have seen other discussions where it has been suggested that any IP talk page that has been stale for more than six months should be blanked and templated. I don't much disagree with that. The list that I generated was actually of any IPs that didn't have any contribution in a year with a "201-" in the title, so it covered pages with edits made up to December 31, 2009. This being 2014, I'm not particularly concerned with blanking a page last edited four years and seven months ago. As for leaving the IP headers, Wikipedia is not a permanent record of the affiliations that a fairly random selection of IP pages had in the previous decade. If there have been no edits forthcoming from them, then there is no benefit to the encyclopedia in maintaining them at all. The benefit in removing them is that you can look at the "what links here" page even for the templates used on those pages and get a more accurate picture of pages relevant to current activity. The only template remaining on all of these pages will be a generic {{OW}}. bd2412 T 17:43, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon![edit]



Sorry for the last minute update, but our friends at the DC Historical Society have scheduled a Battle of Fort Stevens Edit-a-Thon to commemorate the 150th anniversary of the Civil War battle fought in the District. The event will last from noon to 2 PM on Wednesday, July 30. Hope you can make it!


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