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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Baby ifritah, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! Superzohar Red star.svg Talk 16:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Bushranger[edit]

Your comments are good ones. Never be afraid to get in there and make the edits! --Steve (Stephen) talk 05:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Let me second Steve's remark above. As a librarian - are you up for writing Robbery Under Arms, which is currently redlinked in the Bushrangers article?Garrie 03:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
The Magic Pudding is another Australian novel that is available free online at Project Gutenburg. So its' article may be worth a look.
It is missing a fair-use image of the cover art - although, when first relaeased it would not have had any such thing.
One thing to not for Robbery is that it was first released as a serial, I don't know if it was changed much when released as a novel - in the first novel release it was in three volumes is the extent of my knowledge.Garrie 10:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
You might want to look through Category:Australian novels.Garrie 10:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Sam Boardman-Jacobs[edit]

This page is not in any categories. It is always a good idea to use categories to link new articles to other similar articles, and to prevent the article from being tagged as an orpan.

I guess he should be in Category:English drama and Category:English-language writers? but I'm not too sure. It may also still be a stub - but it is definately getting well toward start-class.

If you have access to reviews for his writing, then everything you are saying about the meaning and plot of his work should be cited. And if you have references for his scriptwriting with the BBC, cite that as well.

It is in quite a good state for a first effort at an article, well done! Garrie 03:20, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

PS. Categories are just "tacked on" at the bottom of the page, don't put them in a seperate section (just edit the "References" section and put them in there at the end). Make sure you use the pipe feature so he shows up in lists sorted by his surname, like this: [[Category:English drama|Boardman-Jacobs, Sam]].Garrie 03:22, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Sam Boardman-Jacobs.[edit]

All you really need is a small sentence "X is openly gay" and add a citation for it. I can't find anything in immediate reach, but as someone who I'm sure must know quite a bit about him, I'm sure you can. You might want develop some sentences about his work in gay and lesbian theatre, but as it stands it's quite good. Needs citations though! Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 14:05, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Adoption[edit]

I'm willing to adopt you. I lived in Kyneton around the turn of the century.

The article Indigenous Australians has all the content it needs, possible more then necessary. It's really at the end stage now just needing a little nudge to get to Featured article standards. What the article needs is copy editing(spelling, grammer, wikifying and layout), adding/cleaning up of citations for various sections/statement, linking to associated articles and sense checking of stats against sources. Gnangarra 13:36, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

User:Baby ifritah/Robbery Under Arms[edit]

Doesnt really matter it's still in user space. Normally when sections disappears its because you left a reference open you had <ref/> instead of </ref>. I also added reference tag to the reference section you see that all the sources now appear but they need to be formatted so that they can be read see WP:CITE for details on layout. Also trivia sections are disliked, generally if the information is important enough to be included in the article then do using prose in a specific section.

Another point is that the lead should be a summary of the article, such that any fact in the lead is expanded upon in the main text of the article. Books movies etc normally include a section on critics both at time of publishing and at various releases, even more so when its historically acclaimed like this is. Anyhow the layout looks fine I'm off for the night but drop me a note if have any questions and I'll answer when I'm back on. Gnangarra 14:29, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

something I just noticed is Robbery Under Arms already exists even though its a stub, I recommend you merge your asandbox page into this article. you can always expand on once its there but this'll save other editors doing unnecessary work. Gnangarra 02:54, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Robbery Under Arms[edit]

I have added a single reference to a copy I have seen as a basis for a full reference section. I have also rationised the footnotes as you suggested. It is possible for some paper based repeated footnoting to perhaps make use of a "reference" entry to the work with footnotes making use of this with specific page numbers. Thanks :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

An Invite to join Novels WikiProject[edit]

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Hi, you are cordially invited to join the Novels WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to fiction books often referred to as "Novels". We make no length distinction so all narrative prose fiction is of interest. This includes Novels, novellas, novelettes and short stories. Articles about the works themselves and the forms and genres.

As you have shown an interest in Robbery Under Arms we thought you might like to take an interest in this well established WikiProject.
We look forward to welcoming you to the project! :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 10:00, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Novels WikiProject[edit]

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Hi, and welcome to the Novels WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to fiction books often referred to as "Novels".

A few features that you might find helpful:

There are a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask one of the members, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:16, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Response to question[edit]

I have responded on my talk page to this. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:17, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Oz lit[edit]

Please do not take my didsain on the oz project page the wrong way - its just that starting with one WP (I have been involved in starting a few - not in every detail but getting the various wizs to help out etc) I would say start with one - and if it gets too big then split up - rather than the other way around - very good idea - have you seen any in other countries/place that are up and running? that would be the other thing to do - see how other countries have stuff SatuSuro 02:12, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey the oz lit main page was for a while appropriated by some jerk who thought oral poetry was the central aspect of oz lit. Amongst some eds - they are either historically or geographically challenged to the point of embarrsment. I suppose my suggestion is to start with the new project- and when it gets too big break out into other things- rather than the other way around. So we need the start - there are hundreds of oz poets and novelists who simply are stubs or not even there - either by state, or by era - my teenagers are computer obsessed - and i thats any indication theres a whole generation of australians who are doomed to have their cultural history lost if things like this wikipedia project dosnt inject a sense of curiosity in users of wikipedia - which is why I say more power to the oz lit project and lets get on with it! and scuse late night ramblings - cheers SatuSuro 13:52, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikiproject Aust Lit[edit]

HI Baby ifritah, as your adopter recommend that you dont go it alone in establishing the project the work involved in establishing then maintaining is very time consuming. I suggest that you listen to the advice of User:SatuSuro who just started WP:NTA and also seek out advice from User:cj. I'll help if you do decide to go ahead with the project, but Australian literature isnt an area where I have detailed knowledge. Gnangarra 01:25, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey v busy today - will post long rumbuctious objectionable charles bukowski type rave about the whole thing this pm or tomoorow - if cj finds himself mentioned and numps in - fine - otherwise I'll out waits tom - and think of a few sollipsistic crunches of terms to get the whole damned thing running on chicken feet before you can work out the hell I am up to - heheh - tonight and may the babe sleep well SatuSuro 04:04, 6 May 2007 (UTC) Be good if you canemail as thereare someoff wikicomments aboutall ofthis stuffcheersSatuSuro 04:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

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DYK[edit]

Updated DYK query On 6 May, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Robbery Under Arms, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.
--Carabinieri 16:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
congrats on your first DYK, Gnangarra 23:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
welldone!SatuSuro 00:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Ooops[edit]

Forogt to say im trying to get cj help to get it up and out now - sorry forgot to leave a message. oops bad form sorry SatuSuro 03:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey you have two at your sub page - one should be still 'out there!' SatuSuro 06:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Probably /possibly worth doing a redirect from your sub-page to the one out there. Also if grutness gives ok for aus-lit-stub - thats bloody great! (Theres a story about his signature - sometime off wiki) cheers SatuSuro 01:19, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Plot problems[edit]

And the easy question is!?

I certainly agree with your caution. However these issues of "only Plot" and "too much plot", and "in-universe" and "tone" are a general blight here and the volume of the problem is immense.

I would use {{tone}}, {{plot}} and occasionally {{advert}} if that is too blatant.

Then I would try and get your "Australian literature" group up and running and see if you can gather a few editors to focus on the national prose article collection.

Why I say this is the original editors seem often unwilling, unable or just plain "gone" and will never return to their work. It seems more productive to gather others to improve the articles. We can establish a Novels task force to support this initiative and hopefully we can focus some effort. If I knew some of the works I would feel more able to contribute more myself.

Trust that helps - at least a bit :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 12:31, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Given the way you are adding {{plot}} I'm not sure it is the most appropriate. The template says quite a bit about "plot" length and you are adding it the article that sometimes bearly have more than a couple fo sentences. So I'm not sure this is best. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:45, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

I understand your dilemma, I'll have a hunt round and see if I can find something more appropriate. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 14:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
No joy - but I added something to your {{plot}} talk :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 14:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Lol[edit]

Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_talk:Australian_novels - and the image - I thoink we need to call in a good template image rather than a basket ball :) SatuSuro 14:24, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Maroon or green either are ok i reckon btw you sure a good designer!SatuSuro 03:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Ummm the red is a bit um - in the face - any chance of toning down slightly? SatuSuro 11:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I like the last one - but thats me :) SatuSuro 12:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
I sort of gone cold on waiting for the crowds I reckon we need to replace the basketball - and start tagging (gently) SatuSuro 12:28, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
Nah no sub cats yet - we need to fill the project page with thing like names of poets/novelists - sort of the big names of the last 150 years stuff - and check to see whether theyre even in the ballpark -SatuSuro 13:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
That bloody basketball needs to be exterminated actually - thats one thing SatuSuro 13:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
One thing we have to learn is to be patient - I might or might not get anything done due to off wiki things - hey sometime soon :) SatuSuro 13:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Australian Literature Project - Science Fiction & Fantasy[edit]

Thx for your message Baby ifiritah ! Am glad to help out and will work on mainly the Australian Science Fiction and Fantasy sections, plus contribute to what other else appears that i can work on. Yeah there is a lot happening for Australia in this field now so looking forward to see what is needed or missing. Will be starting soon on expanding and improving Ian Irvine as he is becoming more and more popular worldwide. Regards Boylo 07:30, 10 May 2007 (UTC) Ps. Thx for the navigation bar code, its very handy

Thx for that new message as i was in the process of writing to you regarding all that when i received it. I been checking the links to Fantasy articles and see there is much to be done there. I found that you have to add literature=yes as lit=yes didnt seem to work for me. Most articles are need of Info Boxs too. Have i been adding the right type of articles to your listing ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boylo (talkcontribs) 03:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC).

Adoption[edit]

Hey, I've been peeking in your contributions and watching your developement, its especially noticable that your successfully decyphering User:SatuSuro talk page messages. While I'm happy to continue with you being an adoptee, I think you can change the adoption sign to {{AdopteeGrad}}. Just drop a note if you have any questions or comments my talk page is always open. Gnangarra 13:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Hehehe - hey he used me as a parameter (silly boy) - just wait till I try explaining what we have further to do with the Oz lit project to get it out and screaming from the skyscrapers that we are off and running. Congrats on your grad anyway !!!SatuSuro 14:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

hi, & a 'to do'[edit]

hello. good to see more anarchists here, & WP:ALIT was a very good idea. i've started a 'to do' list User:Bsnowball/draft compiled from the reds in oz novel & poets lists, the oz project 'to do' list & the left-overs from here User:Stumps/To_do, it's heavily biased towards 'serious' lit but it's a start. where shld it go in the project? ben  ⇒ bsnowball  15:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

lit to literature[edit]

not a good idea - Im off till late tonight - will try to give a reasoned explanation why SatuSuro 10:16, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

gah distracted - forgot to follow this up. its better to keep em short, in short SatuSuro 15:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Copyright[edit]

You're right, copyright has expired on photos taken in Australia before 1955. Many libraries and repositories mislead the public by leaving contradictory notices on their websites. Whether it's deliberate or laziness in fixing the website I'm not sure, but either way, its safe to just ignore. —Moondyne 15:43, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

But actually, the copyright link you posted does say "Photographs taken before 1 January 1955 are out of copyright and are not affected by these new rules.". —Moondyne 15:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Australian literature is new ACOTF[edit]

Hi. You voted to support Australian literature as the new Australian collaboration. Please help to improve it in any way you can. Thanks. Scott Davis Talk 14:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Yeehah! real cowboy stuff now - riding a acotf and trying to get the project out of 'underconstruction' all at the same time - heheh - what a fortnight this'll be :) SatuSuro 14:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying to get Scott to put Books Australia3.png up - I hope he will SatuSuro 14:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Done - what else does the project need to be able to get rid of the ugly green banner? It might put interested people off at exactly the time new people might look. --Scott Davis Talk 15:07, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Further late into the night the adelaide admin goes to bed and the crazy from perth does a bigger YEHAH - its lost its L plates and is running! SatuSuro 15:39, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Tagging time is here[edit]

Still a bit delayed in getting the assessment pages up and running (need to check on some advice from the admins, sigh) otherwise we can now go forth and tag to our hearts content - anything that might look as though it belongs. Trust all is well, Perth is freezing, cheers SatuSuro 03:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey[edit]

That sounds serious (the note at oz lit) - hey just look after yourself and caspar - the project takes a life of its own! SatuSuro 05:43, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Hope Caspar is doing okay now. We are all missing you and looking forward to your return when the lil guy is better.Boylo 07:26, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Melbourne meetup 6[edit]

Hi. This is a reminder to people on the Melbourne meetup participation list that the next meetup has been arranged for 19 June. Could you indicate on the meetup page your likely attendence, or otherwise. Regards. - Cuddy Wifter 23:06, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Indigenous Australians is the new ACOTF[edit]

Hi. You voted for Indigenous Australians which has been selected as the new Australian collaboration. Please help to improve it in any way you can. Thanks. --Scott Davis Talk 15:48, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

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Project news
  • This newsletter was unfortunately delayed till now - my apologes for that - I needed to respond to a whole host of image challenges that appears on my personal talk pages. So, if you have uploaded non-free book covers that are being used under fair use terms, please add your own "Fair Use Rationale" to the images.
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  • The Brothers Karamazov (nom.) was demoted from Featured Article status for concerns over sources, structure, and coverage/focus.
  • The 2007 Wikipedia Selection for schools, targeted around the UK National Curriculum, included 39 novels. Volunteers at Wikipedia had suggested articles considered valuable and relevant for inclusion. See here and the WP Signpost news.
Novel related news

Shantaram to marry Princess Gregory David Roberts, author of Shantaram, a reformed Australian convicted armed robber has just announced his engagement to Princess Francoise Sturdza of Switzerland, who he plans to marry soon. His life has changed dramatically for the best after the release of his first novel four years ago, which depicted his life in India after escaping from prison. A movie based on his novel is planned for production later this year, starring Johnny Depp in the lead role. [1]

Shannara series purchased by Warner Bros The film rights to The Shannara Series by Terry Brooks have been picked up by Warner Bros. They plan to first develop The Elfstones of Shannara, the second book in the series as the opening movie and writers are now being sought for the adaptation. The first book The Sword of Shannara, was published in 1977 and was the first fantasy book to reach, and then top, the New York Times Best Seller list. [2]

Special: Year in review, first Newsletter in June 2006
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  • The demand for fair use rationales for book covers has generated a discussion among wikipedians and also WP:NOVELS members. See the discussion here it has some potentially very important ideas to consider and possibly contribute to.
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Novel related news

What is a novel? What are the elements that must be found in any piece of writing for it to be considered a novel? I think it fair to say that traditional definitions of the word “novel” work along these lines: A novel is a fictitious prose story of book length. In my view, a novel has six basic elements: 1) It must have a society of characters; 2) They must be undergoing transformations; 3) And those must be in the course of a sustained prose narrative; 4) The sustained prose narrative must be impelled by a plot; 5) And it must be unified by clearly discernible central themes; 6) And to the extent possible, it must be universalised by a complex architecture of allegorical and symbolical sub-strata. If I write those six basic elements into a single definition, I come up with this: A novel is a society of characters, undergoing transformations, in the course of a sustained prose narrative, which is impelled by a plot, unified by clearly discernible central themes, and universalised by a complex architecture of allegorical and symbolical sub-strata.

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Novels Collaboration of the Month[edit]

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  • Reminder: the ISBN is 13 digits long if assigned after 1 January 2007, and 10 digits long if assigned before 2007. ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 can both be used in the book template, see related discussion here. In either case just prefix the number with the string "ISBN".
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Melbourne Meetup[edit]

Hello Baby ifritah! The Melburnians are having another meet-up! Please consult this page if you are interested to participate in the discussion! Thanks! Phgao 03:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

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  • A fairly quiet month in November. However we had a fairly successful COTM with the Alice's Adventures in Wonderland article with 85 modifications made. The success of which I will leave to your assessment.
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  • The project has currently 290 members, 8 joined & 0 leavers since the start of November 2007
Task force news
  • The Fantasy task force has got off to a really good start with now 13 members. Do cooperate one with another and make it really work for us.
  • If any group of editors sees a need for a new "task force" then let us know. Also we can link a WikiProject in as a task force (as Australian task force), this has the benefit of reducing the level of effort dissipation and also advertising interest areas in more than one location.
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Welcome to the nineteenth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

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Novels Collaboration of the Month[edit]

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XX - January 2008[edit]

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue XX - January 2008
Project news
  • Welcome to a new calendar year (for most of us!)
  • During 2007 we have seen membership grow from just below 200 to just below 300. Also our tagged article count now runs at about 16,000 considerably up on this time last year. It highlights the message given from last year that there is much work to do improving and caring for this corner of our "wikiworld". Sadly our Auto-list editor moved on and we sorely need an able replacement. On a more positive note we have seen the establishment of task forces, style guidelines and peer review. Our latest outreach initiative is the Novels Job Centre.
Member news
  • The project has currently 299 members, 9 joined & 0 leavers since the start of November 2007
  • n.b. this graph copy has been included as a "one off" example just for this newsletter to let you see the addition to our membership page.
Other news
Task force news
  • The Australian task force (i.e. WikiProject Australian literature) is always welcoming new participants interested in Australian fiction.
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Welcome to the Twentieth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

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Last month's challenge (Belinda) was completed by new member User:Nick mallory.

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Beryl Bainbridge's award-winning Master Georgie.
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Robbery Under Arms[edit]

Hi Baby Thanks for leaving such useful notes in the discussion section of this article (and for writing it in the first place.) I enjoyed the novel over the Christmas break, and it was useful to know what should have been in the article so I knew what to look for when reading it. I've added (possibly too much) plot outline and (possibly too little) themes to the article. I doubt I would have bothered without your quality start to the page.WotherspoonSmith (talk) 13:43, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXI - February 2008[edit]

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Issue XXI - February 2008
Project news
  • We have had a solid month with an increase of project tagging work. We now have a bit of a backlog of assessments needed.
Member news
  • The project has currently 305 members, 6 joined & 0 leavers since the start of January 2008.
  • The member page has been reorganized with it being noted that many member are largely inactive. However this is not unusual for WikiProjects and we have a very loyal core of editors who work diligently away often without recognition.
Other news
  • Many book cover images were tagged for deletion because of missing or incorrect fair use rationales in January. Several notes on this subject were placed on the General Forum.
Task force news
Novel related news
Current debates
  • The short story taskforce talk page has a discussion relating to the (non)inclusion of articles on stories by well known authors. Find the debate here.
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Welcome to the Twenty First issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

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Joanna Murray-Smith[edit]

Although Aust Lit is not my forte, I noticed recently a glaring hole on Wikipedia: the absence of an article on Joanna Murray-Smith.

While researching her, I noticed that you did already some considerable work. It's too late in the day now (midnight), but I will place the material I have so far onto my userpage tomorrow or Tuesday, so you can have a look at it. Maybe we can launch some kind of co-operation on this.

On the other hand, it seems to me that you might no longer be all that active here anymore, in which case I will just pinch your work :-)

All the best, Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I have now added the article. Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXII - March 2008[edit]

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Issue XXII - March 2008
Project news
  • An election has been proposed to elect a council that will govern the whole project for a month or more, if you would like to debate this, go to the general discussion forum here
Member news
  • The project has currently 312 members, 7 joined & 0 leavers since the start of February 2008.
Other news
  • Last months collaboration brought few improvements it would be nice if more got involved with the one for this month.
Task force news
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Current debates
  • The debate on "studying literature" is now taking place here. Please have a look and add to the debate.
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Welcome to the Twenty Second issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

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WikiProject Novels - 1st Coordinators Election[edit]

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue XXIII - April 2008
Project news
  • Elections are now taking place for coordinators of the project for the next three months. Any editors interested in seeking a coordinator position, or who want a say in who is selected, should indicate as much here.
Member news
  • The project has currently 381 members, 69 joined & 0 leavers since the start of March 2008.
Other news
  • The project's long-time lead coordinator, Kevinalewis, has announced he is not standing as a candidate for another term in that capacity. We would like to take this opportunity to express our gratitude to him for the extraordinary work he has done for this project.
  • To Kill a Mockingbird was promoted to Featured Article status on April 3. This brings our FA count to 13!
  • It has been suggested that WikiProject Sword of Truth be merged into WP:NOVELS, perhaps as a task force.
Task force news
Novel related news
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  • There is a discussion regarding further task forces for other genres of fiction now taking place here.
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Welcome to the Twenty Third issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

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Issue XXIV - May 2008
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  • The project has currently 380 members, 1 joined & 2 leavers since the start of April 2008.
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Welcome to the Twenty Fourth issue of the Novels WikiProject's newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXIV - May 2008[edit]

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WikiProject Australia newsletter,December 2008[edit]

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The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - July 2009[edit]

The July 2009 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Alan16(talk)

WikiProject Novels - August 2009 Newsletter[edit]

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WikiProject Novels December 2009 Newsletter[edit]

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Lord Chaitanya knows everything that happens in all three phases (past, present, and future, of time. He knows that in the future some demoni people will serve Lord Advaita.

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They will refer to Lord Advaita by the name "Shri Krishna". In this way they will reject the words of the true Vaishnavas.

Text 124

These sinners will thus disobey the devotees who affirm that Advaita is "the greatest Vaishnava".

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Many persons will consider themselves the followers of Lord Advaita, but they will not have the power to see how in the future they will be punished.

Text 126

Lord Chaitanya, the crest jewel of they who know everything, knew all this. Therefore He did something to try to stop this from happening.

Text 127

By punishing His mother, Lord Chaitanya showed the result that comes from offending Lord Advaita or any other Vaishnava.

Text 128

No one can protect a person who has offended a Vaishnava.

Text 129

Therefore one should avoid persons who offend Vaishnava.

Text 130

One should avoid an offender, even if the offender is otherwise very qualified. A little association with an offender will make one fall down.

Text 131

Who has the power to understand why the Lord gives punishment? By punishing His mother, He taught everyone.

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Anyone who blasphemes they who use the word `Vaishnava" to address Lord Advaita will be punished. He will perish.

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Lord Chaitanya is theSupreme Personality of Godhead, the master of all. To be called His follower is very great praise.

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Without any intention to deceive, Lord Chaitanya openly said that Lord Nityananda is the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know Lord Chaitanya. By Lord Nityananda's mercy I know the Vaishnavas.

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By Lord Nityananda's mercy offenses are destroyed. By Lord Nityananda's mercy one attains devotion to Lord Vishnu.

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Blasphemy directed to Lord Nityananda's servants never enters my mouth. Day and night I happily sing Lord Chaitanya's glories

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I carefully serve Lord Nityananda's devotees. Lord Chaitanya is the life and wealth of Lord Nityananda's servants.

Text 139

A person who has only a little good fortune will not become Lord Nityananda's servant, for Lord Nityananda's servant is able to see Lord Chaitanya.

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Anyone who hears this story of Lord Visvarupa becomes a servant of the limitless Supreme Personality of Godhead. He feels that Lord Nityananda is his very life.

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Lord Nityananda and Lord Visvarupa do not have different bodies. This Mother Saci knew. Some other great souls also knew.

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Glory to Lord Nityananda, who takes shelter of Lord Chaitanya! Glory, glory to Lord Nityananda, who is thousand-faced Ananta Sesha!

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O Lord Nityananda, O king of Gauda-desa, glory to You! Who can attain Lord Chaitanya without first attaining Your mercy?

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Anyone who loses Lord Nityananda will not be happy in this life.

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Will I some day see Lord Chaitanya, Lord Nityananda, and their associates all thogether in one place?

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Lord Chaitanya is my master. With great faith and hope I meditate on Him within my heart.

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I bow down before Lord Advaita's feet. I pray that he will always be dear to me and that He will always stay in my thoughts.

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The two moons Shri Krishna Chaitanya and Shri Nityananda are my life and soul. I, Vrindavana dasa, sing the glories of Their feet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.132.82.156 (talk) 14:09, 2 July 2010 (UTC) 


Melbourne meetup this Saturday[edit]

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Wikipedia Day Melbourne Meetup[edit]

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February Melbourne Meetup[edit]

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Melbourne meetup[edit]

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Meetup invitation: Melbourne 26[edit]

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