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Hello, Bahudhara, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Wizard191[edit]

This was indeed a false positive by ClueBot.

I followed the steps for reporting this false positive, and here is the text of the reasons I gave for reporting it as such:

The term "Homo erectus' is the valid scientific name for the early hominid also known as 'Java Man'. This fossil was discovered by Eugène Dubois, who succeeded Tiberius Cornelis Winkler in the position of curator of geology, paleontology and mineralogy at Teylers Museum in Haarlem.

This is the reference I was adding.

It was relevant to the article as Tiberius Cornelis Winkler was himself one of the earliest translators of Charles' Darwin's Origin of Species (into Dutch, in 1860), and expressed views on human evolution long before Darwin himself was prepared to publicly admit to these views.

Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 13:37, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Welcome[edit]

Hi Bahudhara, welcome to Wikipedia. It's always nice to see new users who are very obviously improving the encyclopedia. Just one hint: While it's technically possible to insert external links in the middle of an article, and it can indeed often be an improvement, we are not really supposed to do this. (See WP:ELPOINTS.) I think the idea is that if something is important and relevant enough to get an external link, then it's notable enough to get its own article or useful enough (i.e. very relevant to the article and provides substantial value that the article can never provide) to be put into the external links section. Or perhaps it's something else; the rule predates my arrival here.

There are a lot of users here who like eating new users to increase their self-confidence. I will be watching your talk page, but let me know if you need any help. Hans Adler 07:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Hans, thanks for the tips, and your kind offer. At this stage I'm just feeling my way in by making relatively minor edits, so I'm happy to accept any constructive criticism should I commit any faux pas.
I've had another look at the Karlsruhe article and decided to move one of those external links to the 'References' section, as that seems to be a much better fit than the 'External links' section. I found that there was already an article for the other external link, so I've changed that to an internal link.
Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 15:02, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Great! Generally the idea is to be bold and then just learn from the feedback, although at times the feedback is so negative that it can make you want to give up the project. This is supposed to be the easiest way, and when it works that's true. When I started almost three years ago there were already so many arcane rules one could inadvertently break that it took a long time to get used to everything, and it's getting worse from year to year.
But if I am guessing your attitude to life correctly from your user page and your start here, you can probably take some of your experiences here as important training. Good luck! Hans Adler 17:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

The Last Full measure[edit]

Thanks for making the change. I read the story many years ago in IASFM and enjoyed it. --Robert Fraser (talk) 07:36, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

South Australia[edit]

Hi Pdfpdf, I see that you have reverted my effort to improve the earlier edit by Shurlocksam86 (which you had also reverted). No skin off my nose really, I was just trying to do the kid a favour by adding the additional reference, based on my experience of having worked for 10 years in the ABS 20-odd years ago (with two years spent in the Publications Section, where I had to proof-read the SA Yearbook as well as all the other State office publications, including Labour Force). I certainly have no interest in trying to write an encyclopaedic article on the economy of South Australia - my interests lie elsewhere and there are too many other calls on my limited time. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 16:30, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Greetings Bahudhara. Your improvements are appreciated, but as I have said several times, the raw material (although accurate and well cited) was out of place and out of context. You improved the situation notably by putting the comment in an appropriate section of the article. However, I gather you agree that reporting one quarterly statistic from over a hundred years history, and probably at least 200 quarters of statistics, is not encyclopaedic. It's unfortunate that you don't have the interest to write it - it would appear that you are more than "well qualified" to do so. Perhaps we can ask you to review it if it ever does get written? Again, thanks for your contributions. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 23:12, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi Pdfpdf, from my experience in the ABS most users are only interested in current data, which is why I added the link to the ABS source document (which contains the national and state-by-state, raw, seasonally adjusted and trend data, as well as graphs, a glossary and an explanation of the methodology used to gather these statistics).
The reason for this user interest in the very latest (seasonally adjusted) unemployment figures (and how much they vary from the previous month, quarter, or year) is that they form one of the key indicators of the current state of economic activity, and hence are widely quoted in the media and used by politicians (either to lambast each other, or to ask dorothy dixers), as well as by economists, investors, etc.
Even back in those halcyon days when the ABS used to give out hard copies of most of their publications free-of-charge (and was then regarded, by users at least, as one of the most friendly and helpful government departments), after the initial flurry of interest when the embargoed documents were released, they just became shredder-fodder as soon as the next set of figures became available.
It's mainly just academics who would have an interest in the older ("time-series") data, and even then it would be only as one of a number of means of analysing social or economic trends or history - and they would be aware of the sources anyway.
Personally, it has often been the irritating imperfections (of spelling, grammar, facts, or omissions) in WP articles that have piqued my interest and spurred me on to getting involved in editing. Since my own interests lie more in the fields of natural and environmental history (or the history of what the economy has done to the environment, rather than that of the economy itself), I was quite happy to leave that reference as a breadcrumb trail (as an invitation or a challenge) to anyone who might want to follow it up, or to expand. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 06:47, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
"One can but hope" ;-) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 09:11, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Your message[edit]

Thank you. All read and understood; I hope it helps. Haploidavey (talk) 16:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Meetup 12 June 2011[edit]

Hi! I just wanted to let you know that Liam Wyatt is in town, so we were thinking of doing a quick meetup at Brunelli's cafe in Rundle Street (at the Rundle Mall end, near the car park) Adelaide, at 6pm on Sunday, with a possibility of drinks afterwards. So if you're interested we hope to see you there. :) - Bilby (talk) 12:56, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

June 2011[edit]

In a recent edit to the page Martin Luther, you changed one or more words from one international variety of English to another. Because Wikipedia has readers from all over the world, our policy is to respect national varieties of English in Wikipedia articles.

For a subject exclusively related to the United Kingdom (for example, a famous British person), use British English. For something related to the United States in the same way, use American English. For something related to another English-speaking country, such as Canada, Australia, or New Zealand, use the variety of English used there. For an international topic, use the form of English that the original author used.

In view of that, please don't change articles from one version of English to another, even if you don't normally use the version in which the article is written. Respect other people's versions of English. They, in turn, should respect yours. Other general guidelines on how Wikipedia articles are written can be found in the Manual of Style. If you have any questions about this, you can ask me on my talk page or visit the help desk. Thank you. I'll go ahead and just revert those three words back to the original English for you, and leave the other changes you made alone. Thanks! Cognate247 (talk) 17:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC) Cognate247 (talk) 17:43, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Martin Luther[edit]

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Hey there! You're just trying to do the same technique I did with the icon in my only warning! Very cool. StormContent (talk) 03:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

I just copied your text and and tried to make the warning text a little stronger (faster than trying to look up an appropriate template). But since the other article being vandalised is a BLP, that should result in a speedier blocking of this IP user - I reinforced your message at WP:AIV. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 03:34, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

My Apologies[edit]

I saw that you changed my Talk on Martin Luther. I am sorry that made that mistake. I was trying the start a new section and I guess I messed it up. Thank you for changing it back for I did not want to erase anything. Keep up the good work Ricofalltrades (talk) 16:40, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

No worries. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 23:32, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Ostroski[edit]

I found your note on EncMstr's page about this situation and was glad to see someone else had picked up the pattern, as I was wondering who to talk to or where to post a notice about it, since it's a hard situation to deal with under any of the normal remedies. Evidently the situation is even older than I knew. I found out about it because in the last few months he has begun the same type of pattern at Wikispecies, and I followed the IP trail back here. I track down his edits here and revert them whenever he vandalizes at WS. How many others are there who know about this? Other than creating a filter, I think the best way to respond is to make as many people aware of what's going on as possible. Thanks for your work following up on him. Koumz (talk) 15:51, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Hi Koumz, when I first noticed the pattern about a year ago, I reported him to WP:AIV; since then whenever I've come across him again (I keep a number of his favourite past target articles on my watchlist). I generally report him to Materialscientist who usually responds very quickly with a block, but since Ostroski vandalises using many IP addresses, that didn't seem to have much overall effect on his level of activity. So I was happy to find that EncMstr was willing to take a different approach by creating a filter, using a list of his known IP socks (which I was continuing to update, but it has recently been archived).
If I find that another admin has reverted one of his edits AGF, I usually let them know that this wasn't the case. I can only assume that anyone who watches EncMstr and MaterialScientist's talk pages will also be aware of the situation.
According to another post on EncMstr's page (by J Spencer): He likes to edit on other wikiprojects as well, such as Commons and Wikinews. If you say that he is now targetting Wikispecies as well, perhaps that is because EncMstr's filter has been effective in blocking him from WP, but not from other WP sister projects.
It may be because Ostroski's vandalism, because of its nature, is often easily recognised as such and reverted very quickly, that there hasn't been much attention paid to it by other admins. But he has been very persistent despite many warnings and blocks; and the scale and duration of his vandalism suggest that it does deserve more serious action, perhaps by reporting him to his ISP.
I don't have any technical knowledge regarding these things - as he is on dialup his IP address is dynamic and using the Geolocate function gives both his ISP (Frontier Communications) and a location. However, I don't know whether the location given is also fixed and accurate, or simply an indication of the network route that that particular edit session took place over - in other words, it's possible that he may be using one particular computer at a fixed location, (which only appears to change over time because the network configuration also changes over time), or whether he really is accessing the internet from multiple locations. If the latter case, he may be using different computers in many locations (e.g. public access terminals in public libraries, which may be unlikely as I imagine these would all be on broadband now) or it is possible that he is travelling around with a laptop using a wireless link. If this last scenario is correct, then his ISP would be able to identify his account if they are given a log of his recent sessions. And if he is using public access terminals in libraries, perhaps contacting the library administrators might be a useful way to go. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:08, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
And of course, given his style of vandalism of inserting phony information, we can't assume that Edward Ostrowski is actually his real name - it's also possible, for example, that he could be trying to implicate someone he has a grudge against - but it is still an important clue as to his identity. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:34, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

G'Day from Martin Bull[edit]

I am not sure if this is the right place to put this so my apologies if its not :-) I am a recent member and would be interested in attending a meeting if one was planned. I can travel and currently live at Christies Beach. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marty149 (talkcontribs) 07:12, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Martin, To keep the discussion thread together, it would be best to post comments about possible meetups on this project page, rather than on my talk page, or the project's talk page - it can get a bit confusing otherwise, especially for anyone relatively new. (By the way, we may have met in the past perhaps a couple of years ago - I attended two or three APANA meetings with Tony Bazeley.)
There have been a couple of WP Adelaide meetups that I've attended over the past year. They're not big events, just a half-dozen or so attending, but interesting. My recent suggestion for another meetup hasn't had any response so far, due no doubt to the holiday season, but shortly I will start pushing again for it to happen as I've got a particular project in mind that I'd like to discuss. I'm rather busy at the moment with other stuff, so it may take another week or two before I can get down to it. Other likely participants (especially User:Bilby, who is the main organiser for these events) will already have the project meetup page (and therefore its associated talk page) on their watchlists, so I'll hope for a better response when I next post the details. Cheers Bahudhara (talk) 12:17, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Your requested move[edit]

Hello Bahudhara. I moved the article to Pig-footed bandicoot as you requested. It looks like there are a bunch of links to the old name which may need fixing, and perhaps some double redirects. I won't have time to fix those today; perhaps you can look into it. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:37, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I've fixed the ones in mainspace articles, but left those in userspace and archived Portal pages. Some of the Lists are problematic, particularly Wikipedia:WikiProject Mammals/mammal articles by size, which I have nominated for deletion. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 05:57, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

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Port Adelaide[edit]

Howdy. I'm confused by your edit of 24 May 2012. Your edit summary says: "loco 'Bill operates on the Semaphore-Fort Glanville track, not at the Railway Museum." Yet your edit changes the statement "Bill is used for some of the year on a seafront rail line ... " to "Bib is used for ... ". Please review the paragraph in question. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:28, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

My mistake, I reverted the previous edit, without really looking at the second occurrence of "Bill". I made the revert after checking the page on the rides on the Railway Museum's website, which states that steam loco "Bill" operates on the Semaphore line, while "Bub" and "Ken" operate at the Museum itself. I think I was a bit distracted because I couldn't actually find a reference to a loco named "Bib" on that page. I've just had another look on the website - under the searchable page for their rollingstock exhibits (under Type="All" and Gauge="18 inch gauge") there are another couple of 457mm steam locos listed, named "Chitty" and "Juliet", but no "Bib" - but that page doesn't mention "Bub" or "Ken" either.
It's possible that there may be a "Bib" which is not currently used for rides, and is not on display either - or it may have been a mistake altogether. Rather than make an enquiry at the Museum (that would be OR), I'll amend the article to reflect what is actually stated on the Museum's website. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 12:45, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
The other possibility that occurred to me after writing the above, is that "Bib" may have been renamed as "Bill" when it was moved to the Semaphore line. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 05:24, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

List of museums in South Australia[edit]

Hi Bahudhara, Thank you for your note, but I have had to re-revert your addition of the 'South Australian Whale Centre' in List of museums in South Australia. Having 'local knowledge' has nothing to do with it i'm afraid. These lists of museums are for specific museums articles on Wikipedia, not redirects to locality articles. If we start doing that these lists will become devoid of their use, which is to list actual museums that have dedicated articles. As it is there is not even a South Australian Whale Centre section in the Victor Harbor, South Australia article, your'e simply linking to the attractions section of the article, of which the South Australian Whale Centre only is mentioned in one sentence! have a look at the other articles listed on the list of museums articles (particularly the Australian state ones). As you will see they comprise actual museum articles, not redirects. IF there was a dedicated section to the museum in the redirected article that would be one thing, but at the moment there isn't. Perhaps that is something you could work on, or even better, why not start a brand new article on the South Australian Whale Centre? Then it can be added to the list (If it is notable of course). In the meantime it should not be listed in the List of museums in South Australia article UNLESS it has its own article OR at least its own section in a redirected article. If you are still not happy about this, please start a discussion on Talk:List of museums in South Australia, but do not add it again until consensus has been reached with other editors. Please also remember to be civil, and don't dismiss people's views on this simply because they are not 'local'. Happy editing! Bleaney (talk) 23:56, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Alas there are too many deficiencies in WP articles for me to tackle them all on my own. I note your concerns and as I am fortunate in having been granted a bursary by ArtsSA to attend the 2012 National Conference of Museums Australia here in Adelaide later this month, largely due to my volunteer advocacy work in trying to establish a WP:GLAM project with the South Australian Museum and other local institutions, I will be happy to raise them there, and in the report I am expected to write as a condition of accepting the bursary. Hopefully this may result in an increase in recruitment and training of new editors. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 01:54, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
Useful resource for developing the list - Arts SA > Organisations Bahudhara (talk) 03:29, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

North Terrace[edit]

Thanks! (I can't even use the excuse that I shouldn't edit after midnight. Ho hum.) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 03:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Email[edit]

Humpf. My wikipedia email isn't working - neither send, nor receive. So no, I don't have mail (dammit!) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:21, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
From this end it looks like it might be working again. Could you try sending something to me via WP, please? Pdfpdf (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Two informal Adelaide Meetups - 27 Jan 2013[edit]

Riverside Precinct Adelaide Meetup
Next: 19 Nov 2014
Last: 23 Oct 2014
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FYI. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:27, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

My but you are quite the social butterfly, aren't you! I'm envious. :-( Pdfpdf (talk) 14:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Martin Luther[edit]

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No worries, glad to help out. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 23:48, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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Torrens Island[edit]

I had to amend your changes to this article, to distinguish between the heritage-listed former Quarantine Station, and the Origin Energy-operated Quarantine Power Station. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 09:54, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi Bahudhara, thanks for your welcome and the links. Hopefully I have succesfully replied using this nightmare messaging system. Touring123 (talk) 02:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Blue Mountains (New South Wales)[edit]

Ha, thanks--two IPs were mucking about, and I hit mass rollback on one of them. I suppose I need to check the other articles as well. Drmies (talk) 03:57, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

When it's schoolkids playing around, I find that it can be useful to check the article's edit history, as well as checking what other articles they (and their friends!) may have edited recently. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:05, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, that's how I found that it was two of them, playing tag. Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 04:28, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

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As one of a highly select international group, you are hereby invited to join me in celebrating my 666! (Let the games begin!) Pdfpdf (talk) 11:17, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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German vessel Togo[edit]

An interesting article. You might find more info via the Plimsoll Ship Index link on my user page - dimensions, engine details, code letters etc. Mjroots (talk) 19:32, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, although that sort of technical detail isn't really my main area of interest. I had a quick look at the equivalent German article, which has quite a lot more detail about the ship's career in the Baltic in the latter part of the war, including evacuating casualties and refugees. After the war my uncle came to Australia as a DP on the ship - I have a couple of his other photos of it that I haven't uploaded to WP. Most of my mother's family were refugees, escaping from Latvia by ship to Gotenhafen (Gdansk) in 1944, but I don't know on which ship (luckily it wasn't the MV Wilhelm Gustloff!). Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 01:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

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better spot[edit]

Just a suggestion...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/Australia - ie to be fair you should have the same level of detail the other 3 have

why not go to

https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page - and create your own user page and get carried away there.

Even better try looking at the other users pages - whom you have eclipsed in anecdotal detail at the glam/australia on outreach...

It is where you should be getting carried away - as it is, now there is all the anecdotal (I have spoken with bilby...) in a summary page (where the other 3 persons have kept it short and sweet...) makes your details look like undue advertising, and really, you have an idea or two - you should be trying at the outreach user page - plenty of room where people are more likely to be relevant viewers.

But then, this is wikipedia. Also, Adelaide does not have an individual chapter... (if it does there is nothing showing anywhere about it) careful how you describe things. cheers. satusuro 06:40, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi SatuSuro, Thanks for the link to the Wikimedia Outreach page, I hadn't been aware of it. As Bilby is already a Wikipedia Ambassador, I've no intention of formally taking on that role. Bilby also has the skills (and UniSA facilities) to train new WP editors, so I'm happy for him to take the lead there as well.
Since I'm already involved in a number of volunteer organisations, I've been using my contacts there to actively promote the possibilities and benefits of GLAM-Wiki collaborations to our cultural institutions and their associated volunteer groups, and I've been using the GLAM/Australia page to chart that progress, and using a link to that page in off-wiki email correspondence.
It certainly hasn't been my intention to belittle the efforts of the other users listed on that page, or to use it as a vanity page for personal promotion.
I'm glad to say that we have recently started to make a little progress in developing contacts with the State Library of SA, and shortly (when time permits) I'll rework my WP user page to more fully reflect on this.
You are right in saying that there isn't a formal Adelaide "chapter" as yet - however there is a small group of us with some degree of contact, which we would like to increase through holding more regular meetings, as well as encouraging participation by new users. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 23:22, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
More power to all attempts at local organisation, and indeed dont be shy - whatever anyone else is doing, you should still fill up a page on the outreach, regardless of whatever else is going on. What I am suggesting is in no way detrimental to you, Bilby, or the cause in Adelaide - try making a user page at outreach, (the boxes are even better there...), and you have a much better link for others to see, believe me... satusuro 01:23, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the kind words[edit]

Hi B, I just wanted to say thanks for the barnstar and words of encouragement recently re: my work on Wikipedia. I'd be very interested to learn more about your reference collection and potentially peruse it, but I'm not sure how I can contact you outside Wikipedia? Sorry, still learning the ropes. I'm easy to find- search for Dan Monceaux and you'll find my email and work #. Feel free to delete this message once it's served its purpose. I hope to hear from you soon. Danimations (talk) 12:53, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Disco Cuttlefish & Adelaide Fringe[edit]

Hi Bahudhara.

I think you should take a look at the Disco Cuttlefish page and check out the edits that Adelaide Fringe have made to this page. I believe there are grounds for reverting the article to my previous version, but thought a more senior editor would appropriate to call upon for handling this matter. There's an obvious issue here with Adelaide Fringe editing an article which refers to an artwork they commissioned. Their edits are also not written in a neutral tone, nor are they referenced. Please take a look and let me know what you think and what course of action is decided upon. Danimations (talk) 07:42, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

I've reverted their edits back to your version, as the good faith changes they introduced were problematic in terms of grammar and style, advocacy, etc., and didn't add anything of substance.. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 07:57, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Stirling Linear Park[edit]

Hi B, I have another call for some assistance. I just created a page for Stirling Linear Park and see that it has been been flagged for speedy deletion. Can you please take a look, and offer me suggestions as to how best to respond? Thanks. Danimations (talk) 10:26, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up, I've had a quick look at it and will make some edits to the article to fit in with WP standards. Some tips re names - you had "Mrs Anita Aspinall" and further on "Anita". WP doesn't generally use honorifics like "Mrs", or given names (apart from some exceptions! - see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)). Also, capitalisation of other names varies according to specific WP conventions - e.g.common names of bird species use initial caps, but animal species use mixed case.
I've already commented on the article's Talk page to contest the deletion. The person who nominated the article for deletion identifies himself on his user page as a deletionist, but it seems that if others object, the proposal can be withdrawn. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 12:53, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

"Serial pest" (on the Adelaide page)[edit]

I like it! Accurate, but not offensive. Have you TradeMarked or Copyrighted the phrase, or may anyone use it? Pdfpdf (talk) 15:19, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

The phrase isn't mine - I first heard it applied many years ago in the UK, as I seem to remember it being used to describe one particularly notorious activist who used to disrupt fox hunting events. A quick google search also shows it being used against certain activist opponents of duck hunting in Australia. So go for it. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 03:39, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

former[edit]

I'm glad I noticed your edit comment because it gives me the entre to discuss a topic with you. I've recently put a LOT of effort into List of Companions of the Order of Australia, and one of the things I've done is remove "former". In general, this is because it's effing obvious that they must be "former". (Particularly so if the dates-in-office have been included.) Your thoughts? Pdfpdf (talk) 16:48, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

The table in your List of Companions of the Order of Australia has a lot of information on each individual, including "years in office", so using "former" there would be redundant. The lists in List of University of Adelaide people are quite basic, and it's impossible to tell the difference between current and former office bearers unless one already knows, or visits the linked pages.
Another page that the IP with the potential COI edited was University of Adelaide Law School#Notable alumni - under "Politics", it has "John Bannon - Premier of South Australia". There are lots of such lists around, including List of people from Adelaide. Just the tip of an iceberg, I expect. Keep up the good work. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 04:01, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Meetup[edit]

Please could you add the time and the location to Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 8#Wednesday, 16 April 2014? Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 05:44, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

It was decided the meeting should be written up, and that this should be a collaborative exercise. I have "started the ball rolling" at Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Meetup 8#Meeting summary Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

May meetup[edit]

Can we get the date sorted a.s.a.p. please? Then we can start "recruiting" attendees ... Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:26, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

P.S. I'm happy to start ... errrrr ... (posting to / spamming / choose-your-expression) user talk pages, provided we can decide what to post ... Pdfpdf (talk) 11:26, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
No worries, go for it, I've been updating the Meetup page. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 03:33, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Messines (1917)[edit]

Hi Bahudhara,

I saw your revert. Could you please give the changes a closer look? There aren't that many and they really are just simple high school English stuff: Splitting too-long paragraphs, getting the tense consistent, etc. If you read the last paragraph about "soil" (pretending to not have apriori knowledge), I think you will find it to be much more clear from the point of view of a reader who doesn't already know the material. For example: "..need maintenance" was confusing with that tense because most would read it as "the current-day drainage systems need maintenance. Also "Since 1914" is less clear than "Between 1914 and 1917" because it can easily be read as any time after 1914 (like I consistently read it until looking at it very very closely in the process of my last edit). (If it really did mean post-war, it would be off-topic)

Like I said to Keith-265, if I incorrectly discerned the intended meaning, please just correct it, and take it as evidence that the original wording really was misleading even for someone who read it very closely like myself. If I made some English-101 mistake, I'm not offended if you fix that too. But, please don't simply revert. I've been in your position. Some IP comes in and makes a lot of changes at once and as a consequence it requires a review of them all, which is a burden. It's easier to just revert. I sympathize! Sorry about the burden, guys. Please take heart that there really aren't that many changes, and that they're simple without changing the meaning (just clarifying I hope).

Yours, 108.20.78.154 (talk) 06:32, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

I've replied on the article's Talk page, where Keith-265 had already opened the discussion - my main issue was to do with your changes to the verb tenses. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 16:23, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Meeting 9?[edit]

Please read this. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:29, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

"Spring Clean" and organise[edit]

Good work. Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:22, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

The Breakaways Reserve[edit]

Hi Bahudhara, I just noticed your edit of The Breakaways Reserve. I have the following comment - I think the article should be renamed as 'Breakways Conservation Park' in order to align with documentation published by the Department of Environment, Water and Natural Resources (DEWNR) such as the following - The Reserve List, South Australia’s National Parks Guide, Page 27 and NatureMaps. Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 08:22, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that - I'm still working on the geology of the article at the moment, and the related one on Stuart Range, South Australia. I'm happy to rename it when I'm done, esp as the renaming seems to have happened only recently - see: Breakaways Conservation Park to be co-managed with Aboriginal community. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 08:35, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
Update: I've moved the article to 'Breakaways Conservation Park', but I've still got to do some more work on the geology of both articles - maybe in the morning. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 15:08, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Auztralyan Inglish[edit]

I do not understand why the Macquarie Dictionary people insist on using a U.S. English spell checker.[1] --AussieLegend () 08:34, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

FWIW, my copy of the Collins English Dictionary (Australian edition, 1979) also only has 'led' as the past tense. The WP article on the Macquarie Dictionary (my copy is the Concise, 6th edition, 2013) states: It is generally held by universities and the legal profession to be the authoritative source on Australian English.
I have to admit to having been confused in the past over the use of 'lead' or 'led' for the past tense - I dunno, it mightn't be a particuly Strine thingo.
Wiktionary has under lead (verb): #17. Common misspelling of led. ;-) Bahudhara (talk) 10:00, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
My Collins Pocket Dictionary (The Collins people had pretty big pockets) that I got in 1971 in my final year of primary school says either "lead" or "led" with "lead" preferred. I was 21 when the first Macquarie was printed and it was treated as a bit of a joke, with the Oxford dictionary being the dictionary of choice in government circles. I don't own a Macquarie because of the tendency toward what is traditionally US spelling. For example, "gaol" used to be the standard but Macquarie decreed that "jail" should be used and everyone just fell into line without question. I'm sure that if Macquarie added "hsgdshdgydb", people would just accept it. --AussieLegend () 12:56, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
I see what you mean about gaol / jail. For the latter term the Macquarie has under Usage: "In general the spelling of this word has shifted in from gaol to jail. However gaol remains fossilised in the names of jails and in some government usage."
But even my Collins (1979 edition, which predates the first edition of the Macquarie in 1981) defines gaol as merely "a variant spelling of jail". (Maybe you can blame Elvis for that! But then again, Wiktionary has under gaol: "Gaol was formerly the usual spelling, and is still preferred in some proper names. Most Australian newspapers use jail rather than gaol, citing either narrower print width or the possibility of transposing letters in gaol to produce goal.") So maybe you're flogging a dead horse there.
I can't say that I'm familiar with the arguments about the respective merits of these dictionaries. I just bought the Macquarie a while ago because I intended using it (as well as Alfred, Duke of Edinburgh who brought back a pet freshwater tortoise from his visit to Australia in 1867) as ammunition in a POV stoush I was having with some Yanks (and an expat Aussie) who have renamed all our local tortoises as turtles. I'm holding off for now, maybe I'll resume the argument when I have nothing better to do, or am feeling particularly masochistic. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 15:39, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of User Touring123[edit]

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No worries - should have been in userspace, due to a badly formatted link in a list it wound up in mainspace instead, so should be speedily deleted. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 07:03, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry ...[edit]

Thanks.

Actually, I happen to agree with you.

(But seriously, don't worry - the world won't end ...) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 16:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Since the AfD is now closed, I posted a lengthy response and a few potential suggestions at User talk:Pdfpdf. The Drover's Wife (talk) 01:33, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Technical Mentors - Unleashed Adelaide, 11-13 July 2014[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Meetup/Adelaide/Future meetings#Technical Mentors - Unleashed (GovHack Adelaide) for details. Alex Sims (talk) 11:37, 10 July 2014 (UTC)

Port Adelaide[edit]

I'm sorry if I accidentally moved something that shouldn't have been moved, but inappropriate redirects on notable topics which effectively salt the earth on their creation to non-experienced Wikipedia users requires ad hoc measures to be taken to clean up that particular mess. The Drover's Wife (talk) 14:26, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

AfD[edit]

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Sister cities[edit]

Apparently, not only do "great minds think alike", but they do it at the same time! ;-) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:44, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

(Sigh) It's a bit of a pain when relatively new editors repeat the same mistakes others have made in the past. I'm glad you fixed up the changes to the Adelaide city centre article as well. Keep up the good work. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 23:57, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

Iris cat.jpg

For you furry kitten.

Thejoebloggsblog (talk) 06:27, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

As a former cat-lover (now happily cat-free for 10 years!) I'm happy to accept the virtual variety, as feral cats have been blamed for killing more than 20 billion native Australian animals a year. Cheers, Bahudhara (talk) 23:03, 7 November 2014 (UTC)