User talk:Barnabasmcavoy

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Proposed deletion of Dark Shadows (2011 film)[edit]

The article Dark Shadows (2011 film) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles. This film is still in development; according to available resources, any casting decisions are preliminary.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:05, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In this edit, you removed the proposed deletion from Dark Shadows (2011 film) with the explanation: Yes I admit when I first created this it was in a mess but I have improven it now and kept to the facts. The article was not proposed for deletion because it was a mess, but because the Wikipedia community has reached a consensus that:

Films that have not been confirmed by reliable sources to have commenced principal photography should not have their own articles, as budget issues, scripting issues and casting issues can interfere with a project well ahead of its intended filming date. The assumption should also not be made that because a film is likely to be a high-profile release it will be immune to setbacks—there is no "sure thing" production. Until the start of principal photography, information on the film might be included in articles about its subject material, if available. Sources must be used to confirm the start of principal photography after shooting has begun.(see WP:NFF)

Nothing you have added to the article addresses the fact that, although Depp's and Burton's involvement means this will be a "high profile" film, it has not yet gotten off the ground, and any casting decisions (e.g. Michelle Pfeiffer and Helena Bonham Carter) are just rumors at present. I will bring the article to articles for deletion to let the community sort this out. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:08, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Dark Shadows (2011 film) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dark Shadows (2011 film) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dark Shadows (2011 film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:11, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I would like to apologize if I broke any rules by deleting that template. It's been a while since I edited wikipedia so I'm a bit rusty on this and I will try my best to dring the Dark Shadows page in a good light.--Barnabasmcavoy (talk) 18:52, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- No, you didn't break any rules. A user is allowed to remove a proposed deletion tag that has been placed on an article they authored, with proper explanation. You explained your reasoning and, although I disagree with it, it is sufficient to avoid having the article deleted without a consensus being reached. Therefore, the AFD process will allow for that consensus. I suggest you weigh in there to have your voice be heard in the discussion. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 19:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Hi, Barnabas! Thanks for creating the article about the project. It has been in development since 2007, so I am recommending a merge to the TV series article until filming is verified to have begun. This is the usual threshold per the notability guidelines for future films since a project is not guaranteed to become a film; it's recommended to merge content to a broader article in the meantime. For example, I am working on a "Planned film" section at Forty-seven Ronin#Planned film, and I plan to create a stand-alone article if filming begins. Otherwise, the project may not enter production, and we would not have a real film article. Depp has been involved with some projects that don't become films; one example I've worked on is Shantaram (novel)#Film adaptation. Erik (talk | contribs) 23:33, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]