User talk:Barte

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If you leave a message for me here

I'll reply here.

Thanks for your reply on the talk page, and ...[edit]

Vow, this page has no history? It seems your edits are so well-balanced and of such high quality that nobody needs to deal with you directly! :) Anyway, I'm going to abandon my pseudonym account, and I will probably not immediately edit the same articles, so I thought I would say good-bye to you. You are one of the most NPOV and balanced editors that I came across! Keep up the good work! --Merzul 22:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Well thank you! It has been a pleasure collaborating with you, as well. In whatever incarnation you appear on Wikipedia, all the best. Barte 22:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


BD / HD DVD[edit]

Hi! I don't mind my posts in talk page being deleted. So no worries. I am with you in this. I hate to see some of the article content overlapping, but not sure myself which one to delete/move.--w_tanoto (talk) 20:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help![edit]

Hey Barte,

Just wanted to stop by and thank you for your good work on High definition optical disc format war‎. I certainly didn't expect my little {{fact}} to prompt such a flurry of activity, but considering how nicely you cleaned up the references, I'm glad it did :) --jonny-mt 08:12, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Bodega Bay[edit]

Thanks for keeping an eye on Marin County, California. You're right that the town of Bodega Bay is located in Sonoma County. However, keep in mind that the bay itself is split between Sonoma and Marin. Cheers! - Stepheng3 (talk) 22:07, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

That sounds plausible. Thanks for looking into it more closely. - Stepheng3 (talk) 04:57, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Pinball[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Pinball. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 17:52, 18 January 2010 (UTC) (Using {{Please see}})

Template:Outdent[edit]

Thank you for your note! Yeah it is a kind of "cute" template, isn't it? It looks like it was made up by User:IRP in October 2008. I saw another editor use it on a talk page and made a note of it on the page where I keep track of useful templates and such User:Ahunt/Tags. Feel free to use it yourself! - Ahunt (talk) 19:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

It turns out that they are both the same template via a redirect to Template:Outdent! So either one works! - Ahunt (talk) 20:34, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Google Chrome OS Security[edit]

Thanks for fixing up the para I added, I think your version is better than my original! I thought the article was interesting enough to cite, although one oddity is the mention of the "developer switch". This tends to indicate that the OS will only fully run on specialized hardware as this switch would not be present on any old netbook. It would be interesting to find more on this, as, to me at least, it tends to point towards some sort of attempt to lock in the OS to certain hardware, at least to gain full functionality. I know you have Chromium OS, can the dev mode be turned on some other way? - Ahunt (talk) 13:40, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Well that is how collaboration is supposed to work - someone writes something and then the next editor makes it better (and not worse)! I agree the "dev switch" is odd, and, as I mentioned, makes me think of hardware lock-in. The fact that the article I cited says "The first Google Netbook, expected out later this year, is intended for use by consumers. However, Google is looking at developing a somewhat different version for the enterprise which would have functionality, especially in management, that businesses might prefer" is probably significant and should go in the article somewhere. Do you want to add that or shall I? - Ahunt (talk) 16:15, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your response - okay I will add it. - Ahunt (talk) 20:51, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Joli OS[edit]

Hello,

I reverted your revert for Joli OS. I made sure to perform small changes as you can see in the revision history: description, screenshot, additionnal information, etc... My goal is only to correct mistakes and add more information.

The new version is far more relevant and up-to-date but I would be happy to edit what's considered as un-encylopedic language.

Thank you. - DclsBOSS (talk) 11:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Copied the above to the article's talk page and replied there. Barte (talk) 16:53, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Matt Mullenweg[edit]

Nice job cleaning up this article. Yworo (talk) 19:06, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Glad you like. Barte (talk) 21:16, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

New Urban Light article[edit]

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Thanks for creating and expanding the new Urban Light article. Your efforts to expand Wikipedia's coverage of notable art installations is appreciated. Northamerica1000(talk) 19:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Google Chrome OS[edit]

We have yet another well meaning person who has changed all the version numbers for Google Chrome OS to browser version numbers and cited the Google browser blog as a ref. The discussion is here. Once again correcting this has been stymied by Google not publishing the current OS version numbers anywhere other than on a Chromebook itself. Even though I have shown that he is citing the wrong refs he won't remove the offending text and I have already done two reverts on this. Can you have a look. An actual listing of Chrome OS versions would be ideal if you can locate it or have access to it, because I don't. - Ahunt (talk) 15:02, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your input! - Ahunt (talk) 16:28, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for attending the second SF WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon[edit]

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Bart - you rock! Thank you for attending the event on Saturday. You really stepped up to the plate to help new editor's, and your help has been praised especially by Annelisa. I look forward to seeing you again soon. thank you again. Sarah (talk) 20:25, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

You're invited! - Wiki Loves Monuments - San Francisco Events[edit]

Palace of Fine Arts in San Francisco

Hi! As part of Wiki Loves Monuments, we're organizing two photo events in the San Francisco Bay Area and one in Yosemite National Park. We hope you can come out and participate! Feel free to contact User:Almonroth with questions or concerns.

There are three events planned:

We look forward to seeing you there!

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You're invited! Ada Lovelace Day San Francisco[edit]

You're invited! Ada Lovelace Day San Francisco[edit]

October 16 - Ada Lovelace Day Celebration - You are invited!
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Come celebrate Ada Lovelace Day at the Wikimedia Foundation offices in San Francisco on October 16! This event, hosted by the Ada Initiative, the Mozilla Foundation, and the Wikimedia Foundation. It'll be a meet up style event, though you are welcome to bring a laptop and edit about women in STEM if you wish. Come mix, mingle and celebrate the legacy of the world's first computer programmer.

The event is October 16, 5:00 pm - 8:00 pm, everyone is welcome!

You must RSVP here - see you there!
SarahStierch (talk) 19:53, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit-a-thon tomorrow (Saturday) in Oakland[edit]

Hi, I hope you will be joining us tomorrow afternoon at the Edit-a-thon at Tech Liminal, in Oakland. We'll be working on articles relating to women and democracy (and anything else that interests you). It's sponsored by the California League of Women Voters, Tech Liminal, and me.

If this is the first you are hearing of this event, my apologies for the last-minute notice! I announced it on the San Francisco email list and by a banner on your watchlist, but I neglected to look at the San Francisco invitation list until this evening. If you can't make it this time, I hope to see you at a similar event soon! -Pete (talk) 04:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

"The Chrome OS"[edit]

Hi, I am the one who corrected the sentence "A Chromebook is a personal computer running the Google Chrome OS operating system." to A Chromebook is a personal computer running the Google Chrome OS." I don't see the reason for reverting it back to it's old version. The term "Operating System" in short is OS, so I deemed the redundancy of that sentence unnecessary. I'll reply here.

Please see my reply at Talk:Chromebook Barte (talk) 19:08, 19 February 2013 (UTC)\

You're invited to the first-ever Wikipedia Iconathon![edit]

Help build the visual language of Wikipedia at the first ever Wikimedia Foundation/Noun Project Iconathon
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The Wikimedia Foundation is partnering up with the Noun Project to run the first-ever Wikipedia Iconathon on April 6th at WMF headquarters, and you're invited!

What is an Iconathon: An iconathon is a co-design process where Wikimedia staff, the user community, and a few graphic designers collaboratively discuss what symbols could best represent a concept for an icon – for example, what's the best icon for New Editor, Revert or Oversight? Sketches will be converted into high fidelity icons by Noun Project graphic designers, and will be released under a free license for use by anyone on the Internet. Help build the free encyclopedia icon set that anyone in the world can share and reuse!

Logistics: The event runs from 10:30 am to 4:30 pm on April 6th at the Wikimedia Foundation office in San Francisco. Follow the signs at the door! We'll have plenty of paper and pens/pencils for sketching.

How to sign up: Please register here using the code 'wiki'

More info:

About the Noun Project About Iconathons

Hope to see you there! :) Maryana (WMF) (talk) 21:41, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Google Chrome OS version history notability[edit]

I left some concerns about WP:N and WP:NOTCHANGELOG at Talk:Google Chrome OS version history and I wondered if you would care to comment? - Ahunt (talk) 10:56, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Done. Barte (talk) 14:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
Thank you - just wanted a second opinion! - Ahunt (talk) 00:11, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

The Noun Project[edit]

Thank you for all your awesome Edits on the Noun Project Article, the article looks great! Vibhabamba (talk) 22:52, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! It was fun to put together. Barte (talk) 22:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Wiknic 2013[edit]

Wiknic 2013
Sunday, June 23rd · 12:34pm · Lake Merritt, Oakland
Theme: Hyperlocal list-making
Lake Merritt Wild Duck Refuge (Oakland, CA)

This year's 2013 SF Wiknik will be held at Lake Merritt, next to Children's Fairyland in Oakland. This event will be co-attended by people from the hyperlocal Oakland Wiki. May crosspollination of ideas and merriment abound!

Location and Directions[edit]

  • Location: The grassy area due south of Children's Fairyland (here) (Oakland Wiki)
    • Nearest BART: 19th Street
    • Nearest bus lines: NL/12/72
    • Street parking abounds
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You're invited...[edit]

to two upcoming Bay Area events:

  • Maker Faire 2013, Sat/Sun May 18-19, San Mateo -- there will have a booth about Wikimedia, and we need volunteers to talk to the public and ideas for the booth -- see the wiki page to sign up!
  • Edit-a-Thon 5, Sat May 25, 10-2pm, WMF offices in San Francisco -- this will be a casual edit-a-thon open to both experienced and new editors alike! Please sign up if on the wiki page if you can make it so we know how much food to get.

I hope you can join us at one or both! -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Splendiferous…[edit]

indeed. ¦ Reisio (talk) 14:32, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Thx! Barte (talk) 14:53, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Article Feedback Tool update[edit]

Hey Barte. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 22:03, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Chromebook[edit]

Not constructive? Please, do tell. I standardized according to pages like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrabook . The fact is the Chromebook page is a mess and it looks pathetic when Wikipedia has less useful documentation than 3rd party Wikis that have nothing to do with the overall scope of the topic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BotOrNot (talkcontribs) 07:02, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

(Talk page lurker) - Um, check your edit. You deleted the infobox, the lead that explained what he subject is about, the reflist, all the categories and in fact 3/4 of the article. What was left had no context and made no sense. It looked like the usual sort of VisualEditor style error. - Ahunt (talk) 10:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
VisualEditor wasn't used; this was a standard-issue source edit. Barte (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
and more the harder to understand for that! - Ahunt (talk) 18:12, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Opting in to VisualEditor[edit]

As you may know, VisualEditor ("Edit beta") is currently available on the English Wikipedia only for registered editors who choose to enable it. Since you have made 100 or more edits with VisualEditor this year, I want to make sure that you know that you can enable VisualEditor (if you haven't already done so) by going to your preferences and choosing the item, "Enable VisualEditor. It will be available in the following namespaces: $1". This will give you the option of using VisualEditor on articles and userpages when you want to, and give you the opportunity to spot changes in the interface and suggest improvements. We value your feedback, whether positive or negative, about using VisualEditor, at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:22, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Blanking talk pages[edit]

Please do not remove comments from talk pages at your own discretion, particularly as you did not even bother to leave an edit summary as to why you deemed it appropriate to do so! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:20, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Apologies--it was unintentional Barte (talk) 00:43, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Fair enough. Accidents do happen. I thought you might have been offended that I was getting a tad (erhem) acerbic towards him/her. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:49, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Quite the opposite. I felt your pain. ;-) Barte (talk) 06:30, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
Don't you hate it when morons start new sections which only serve to distract from the issues at hand... I mean, seriously, what the hell was that codswallop about? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 00:09, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
It's the built-in hazard of a forum in which anyone can post. In this case, I don't think you were dealing with a troll, at least a typical one. But even so, it soon became clear: best not to feed it. Barte (talk) 01:17, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
Sigh. I know (or should know better). Nevertheless, every now and again, I do indulge in some baiting. It's a terrible habit, but it's the harpy in me wot duz make me do it. Whatever it was, it's gone into hiding. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:15, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

You're invited: Art & Feminism Edit-a-thon[edit]

Art & Feminism Edit-a-Thon - You are invited!
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Hi Barte! The first Art and Feminism Edit-a-thon will be held on Saturday, February 1, 2014 in San Francisco.

Any editors interested in the intersection of feminism and art are welcome. Wikipedians of all experience levels are invited! Experienced editors will be on hand to help new editors.
Bring a friend and a laptop! Come one, come all! Learn more here!

SarahStierch (talk) 08:48, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Re: Inside Llewyn Davis[edit]

Thank you for finding an explicit source about the record covers! I always struggle with NOR…
Ulmanor (talk) 02:39, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure. That Rolling Stone photo spread lists a number of real-world parallels within the film. Barte (talk) 02:48, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Nice to meet you at the edit-a-thon :)[edit]

Hi Bart. :) I'm really happy to have met you at the Wikipedia Art And Feminism Meetup in San Francisco yesterday. I'm so impressed that you started the Laurie Halsey Brown article for the edit-a-thon. I went back and searched the SFPL's online databases, and there are some sources you may want to use, like a couple of issues of Art in America and a piece in The Village Voice ("Lost and found" by Karen Rosenberg, 12/2001, Volume 46, Issue 50). You can read it online if you have an SFPL library card, and if you don't have a card, you can get a library card if you're a resident of California. Hope this helps. And hope to see you at the next Bay Area edit-a-thon. :) Msannakoval (talk) 00:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Nice meeting you too, Anna! And thanks for your help on this. SFPL seems like a nice resource for this and other research: I'll sign up and take a look at the sources. Thanks so much. And if you see anything askew in the entry, don't hesitate to fix. Barte (talk) 02:43, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


You're invited! WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon at the University of California, Berkeley[edit]

Saturday, April 5 - WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon at the University of California, Berkeley - You are invited!
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The University of California, Berkeley's Berkeley Center for New Media is hosting our first edit-a-thon, facilitated by WikiWoman Sarah Stierch, on April 5! This event, focused on engaging women to contribute to Wikipedia, will feature a brief Wikipedia policy and tips overview, followed by a fast-paced energetic edit-a-thon. Everyone is welcome to attend.

Please bring your laptop and be prepared to edit about women and women's history!

The event is April 5, from 1-5 PM, at the Berkeley Center for New Media Commons at Moffitt Library.

You must RSVP here - see you there! SarahStierch (talk) 23:09, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Ari Hoptman[edit]

Great editing to make that Ari Hoptman narrative flow a lot better. I found myself struggling a bit on that article, actually. It wasn't clicking for me.

Snaps for you! :) --Kbabej (talk) 20:26, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

My pleasure. Anyone having anything to do with A Serious Man is inherently notable. ;-) Barte (talk) 20:41, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Cite news in VisualEditor[edit]

I wanted to let you know that your great idea about changing "Newspaper" to "News" is being implemented. It may take up to two weeks to reach the Wikipedias, but the patch has already been uploaded and merged, so it is on the way. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:10, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Great to hear--thanks! Barte (talk) 01:04, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

The things you read...[edit]

Just browsing through related articles and came across this. That's hilarious. Protonk (talk) 20:25, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah--temperatures were pretty warm back then. But. interesting to note, once I finished, the section on the controversy has stood intact since then. Barte (talk) 21:27, 7 September 2014 (UTC) That is, until now. Which is good: glad to see more eyeballs on the entire article. Barte (talk) 22:07, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Ayyaduari talk page[edit]

I separated two thoughts into separate paragraphs for clarity, but you put a comment in between, making it appear I didn't sign the first. I'd appreciate it if you would please move your comment to the space below. Maybe I should have signed both, but if I sign the first one now, it will look like it was changed with a new timestamp. Best wishes, --Zeamays (talk) 00:24, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Oops, sorry. Corrected. Barte (talk) 00:51, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Jolicloud[edit]

Hello,

I would like to restore the article for Jolicloud. It currently redirects to Joli OS. But Joli OS is only one of the Jolicloud products. People who are looking for info about Jolicloud as a company are misleaded because of this redirection.

I agree with you that the company situation wasn't clear 2 years ago when the rediction has been made. But now, things are clear: https://www.jolicloud.com/our-story Of course, the article should be updated with encylopedic language.

Finally, no doubt the company is notable. Its product Joli OS is notable as one of the first cloud operating systems. And everyone already agree on that. Its other product Jolibook was one of the first cloud computers alongside the Chromebook. And many articles cover the products Jolicloud Me, Drive and Library released during the past 2 years. Those articles can be used as references to update the Jolicloud entry.

Thank you in advance for your reply. I hope we'll find a solution soon.

Best- DclsBOSS (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:22, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Please discuss this on the Joli OS page. I'm not the only editor pushing back. Barte (talk) 14:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Ok, I've posted my request there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Joli_OS DclsBOSS (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 14:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I've responded there, as well. Barte (talk) 15:07, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

You're invited! Litquake Edit-a-thon in San Francisco[edit]

You are invited!Litquake Edit-a-thon in San Francisco → Saturday, October 11, 2014, from 1-5 PM
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The Edit-a-thon will occur in parallel with Litquake, the San Francisco Bay Area's annual literature festival.

Writers from all over the Bay Area and the world will be in town during the nine day festival, so the timing is just right for us to meet, create and improve articles about literature and writers.

All levels of Wikipedia editing experience are welcome. This event will include new editor training. Please bring your laptop.

The venue: Wikimedia Foundation offices (149 New Montgomery Street, 6th Floor San Francisco, CA 94105) – Google Maps view

You must RSVP here — see you there! --Rosiestep (talk) 03:38, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

How narrow do we have to be in biographical articles?[edit]

Hi, Barte,

I saw your rationale for your revert of my edit to Charles Murray (author), and I see what you are getting at there. But while the article is still far from being up to featured article completeness, what is the harm in adding a sourced quotation about Murray's views, especially in the section of the article that pertains to Murray's views on a closely related issue? Let's discuss on the article talk page. I reverted your kind revert, but perhaps a discussion will resolve our disagreement amicably. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk, how I edit) 03:35, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

<Replied on article talk page.> Barte (talk) 06:00, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

SF edit-a-thons on March 7 and 8[edit]

ArtAndFeminism (3/7) and International Women's Day (3/8)!
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Dear fellow Wikipedian,

In celebration of WikiWomen's History Month, the SF Bay Area Wikipedia community has two events in early March -- please consider attending!

First, we have an ArtAndFeminism edit-a-thon, which will take place at the Kadist Art Foundation from 12 noon to 6pm on Saturday, March 7. We'll be one of many sites worldwide participating in this edit-a-thon on March 7th. So join us as we help improve Wikipedia's coverage of women artists and their works!

Second, we will be celebrating International Women's Day with the International Women's Day edit-a-thon on Sunday, March 8 from 1pm to 5pm at the Wikimedia Foundation. Our editing focus will be on women, of course!

I hope to see you there! Rosiestep (talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:06, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

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VisualEditor News #2—2015[edit]

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-Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk), 17:50, 3 April 2015 (UTC)