User talk:Begoon

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for you, remembering the blue duck --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:11, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Face-smile.svg Thank you. Begoontalk 01:11, 13 March 2015 (UTC)


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Thank you, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:56, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Whatamidoing (WMF) I was, sadly, unsurprised that clicking the link gave me this error:
Sorry, an unexpected error occurred. Bf3q933ej7
Nevertheless, I was able to complete the survey, and I hope my response was helpful/received at all (hard to tell with the errors).
Done, anyway, I think - though I'm likely wrong, as usual. Begoontalk 16:10, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
If you put your name in the last field (about half the people did), then I could look up whether that was added to any of the responses. Otherwise, we'll just have to hope for the best.
Would you like me to pass along the errors to the Qualtrics people? They'd probably want browser/OS information. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 22:51, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Whatamidoing (WMF) - wasn't a unique url for me, then? If I go there now, as I just did, it says "You have already taken this survey", so I'll assume it worked. I should have checked that before, I guess. Browser Chrome 41.0.2272.101 m, OS XP Pro SP3. Please do let me know what "Qualtrics" discover. As, partially, a software guy I'm always interested in that kind of thing. Begoontalk 17:30, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll pass that along. If I get a substantive response back, I'll pass it back to you.
It's the same link for everyone who received that message, and the responses are anonymized. We can't see IP addresses or anything like that in the results (which makes my life easier: I get to skip an entire list of complications from our privacy tigers). However, their website sets cookies or somehow tracks people, so that you can't take the same survey over and over and over again (well, not very easily, anyway. I suspect that it wouldn't be too difficult to defeat. However, I can't imagine that anyone would care enough to do that, and it would be kind of obvious if 50 invitations resulted in 200 oddly similar responses). Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:16, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Question about Commons[edit]

Hey Begoon! Don-Don is up to it again, uploading what he thinks are "good files" to the NBC logo. I do have a question and that is can files on Commons be deleted like they do here on the English Wikipedia? The page is being filled up terribly with his constant uploading of the file. I wasn't sure if they can as I'm not really familiar with Commons. I did revert his most recent versions because the NBC peacock is not that bright in colors. Thanks, Corky | Chat? 04:20, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, I had a quick look, and at least they are not the raster-filled bloated abominations he was uploading in the past. It's still a problem if they are wrong or not an improvement, though. I wouldn't worry too much about the number of files in history - so long as the current file is correct. I'm not an admin there, so other than having the same conversation I already had about overwriting files that are in use with inferior versions I'm not sure what I could do. If it becomes a huge issue, you'd need to take it to an admin noticeboard, and show diffs for the occasions he's been asked not to do this in the past. Sorry I can't be much more help, but do let me know if you start such a discussion, since I would probably comment. Begoontalk 05:26, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Hey, no problem. Thanks for your reply. I might start a discussion, but I'll do some thinking. I will certainly let you know if I do start a discussion. Corky | Chat? 15:36, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, I'd probably leave it for now. It's only a couple of new uploads, you reverted to the "right version", and he seems to be trying to learn, as evidenced by the better technical quality of the files, even if the appearance is obviously wrong. It's infuriating, yes, but while it stays at this low level it's just a minor annoyance. Hopefully the learning curve will accelerate on its own when he sees the reversions. Take action only if it doesn't would be my recommendation. There are still some embedded rasters in that latest version, but I don't have the time, or inclination to recreate the whole file. That's the "best" version of a mess, for now. Begoontalk 15:43, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Corky | Chat? 17:15, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Sock detection[edit]

I wasn't sure if you were encouraging me to take it VPI or saying that you were going to. I probably don't have the initiative or drive to pursue any kind of site-wide changes for anything, knowing that the chances of success are rather bleak and any successful change is only after hundreds of hours of someone being the driving force. CorporateM (Talk) 19:19, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

That makes two of us, then. I was probably attempting to be ironic. Begoontalk 03:12, 30 March 2015 (UTC)