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Sukhoi grafitti at Solo[edit]

Dear Benny,

If, by chance, you'd know the authors of this grafitti, would you please be so kind to thank them from a friend in a very far away land?

If you don't know them or this is not possible for any other reason, I appreciate it the same.

Terima kasih! --MaeseLeon (talk) 02:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The grafitti signature is by Nik2 (Nik-nik) Foundation. I've never heard of them before, but I'll ask around to send them your message. I've also copied your message to commons:File talk:Sukhoi crash grafitti in Solo.jpg and File talk:Sukhoi crash grafitti in Solo.jpg, in case somebody read them. And since it made me happy that someone appreciate a photo that I took, I'll upload the details later today.
Bennylin (talk) 08:45, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you very very much, Sir. --MaeseLeon (talk) 03:12, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

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Page Curation newsletter - closing up![edit]

Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 12:30, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for coordinating this. Appreciate it. Bennylin (talk) 12:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Chittagong[edit]

Hi Bennylin! I saw your username in WP:LOCEMB as a representative from the Javanese Wikipedia. Can you please create an article of Chittagong in Javanese? Thanks --Zayeem (talk) 16:03, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

All right, I'll try to do it tomorrow. Remind me again if I forget :) Bennylin (talk)
Thanks, do it when you are free! :) --Zayeem (talk) 10:28, 18 January 2013 (UTC):)
jv:Chittagong as I promised :) And as a bonus, a post on jv.wp's Facebook page ([1]) :D. Regards, Bennylin (talk)
The photo looked beautiful in the post! Thanks a lot bro! :) --Zayeem (talk) 16:57, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
No, the nature that God has made, that is your city, is beautiful at the first place. One can only capture it to the best of one's ability, and I'm merely a tool of which that lake is displayed through a nicely cropped image in a social media we call Facebook. Bennylin (talk) 19:24, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

My bottompage barnstars[edit]

I like to keep my stars at the bottom

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Thanks for the upload of illustrations as well as all you do for WikiProject:Christianity related articles! Keep up the good work! With regards, AnupamTalk 23:08, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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March Grants News[edit]

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VOLUME 1 MARCH 2013 ISSUE 1

Eight projects have been awarded grants in this pilot round of the Individual Engagement Grants program. You can read more about them in our blog post. Many thanks to everyone who participated in this round! We look forward to seeing even more of your ideas and input in preparation for round 2, which begins on August 1st.

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Hey Bennylin

I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).

So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.

What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 21:39, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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User:Yesus islam[edit]

What is the reason for your request. It is rare for a page to meet WP:CSD if the reason does not match one of the templated rationales. Dlohcierekim 18:38, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

It has been deleted. Thanks. The user has been blocked globally, and basically he just copy-pasted from his article that was deleted in en.wp, and pretty much the content was abusive (in Indonesian language). Bennylin (talk) 10:31, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
Ah, then WP:CSD#G3 for vandalism. Thanks for the info. Dlohcierekim 15:37, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

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Update on VisualEditor and id.wiki[edit]

Hello Bennylin. As you are very active on id.wiki, I thought I let you know about the potential rollout date of September 24 for VisualEditor on your wiki. Thanks to User:Iwan Novirion, a lot of the interface and help documents have been translated. However, I need to post an update to the Indonesian Wikipedians about the upcoming date. Would you be able to help me with a bit of translation for the update? Best regards, PEarley (WMF) (talk) 00:36, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, absolutely :) Bennylin (talk) 05:13, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Bennylin, thanks for helping, and so quickly. I have posted your translation. If you notice any problems with how VisualEditor handles Indonesian text, or unique templates that only exist on id.wiki, please let me know. PEarley (WMF) (talk) 16:00, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Will do. Bennylin (talk) 04:08, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Update on the update. Due to unforeseen issues, we are waiting until Sept. 30 to do the rollout. If you can, I've left a probably googlemangled message on id.wiki, I wouldn't object to you fixing it ;). Cheers, PEarley (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

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Happy New Year Bennylin![edit]

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Karapan sapi[edit]

Hey Benny! Hope you're doing well. I just thought you might like to see the stub I made for karapan sapi. Since you speak Indonesian you probably know how to expand this article better than I do. Cheers, Steven Walling • talk 21:48, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Steven for starting this stub! I've added some information, and provided some backlinks. You might be interested to read about Pacu jawi (article currently only available on id.wp), a Minang tradition which looks like Karapan sapi, but originated in Western Sumatra. DYK that in some agrarian countries, this type of racing was originally done to make to soil more fertile? Bennylin (talk) 06:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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Transliterations[edit]

Iʻm fairly certain you created the webpage that transliterates the Latin script to Javanese. I was wondering if you would perhaps be able to do one for Balinese, and perhaps the other Indonesian scripts, as well. It would be much better than going from Unicode and copy-pasting letter by letter. DerekWinters (talk) 02:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

@DerekWinters: Hi Derek, thanks for your interest. I'm going to try it now. But since it will be based on Javanese, I hope our Balinese friends could take a look and correct me if some of the rules are wrong/different from the Javanese ones. Bennylin (talk) 13:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
For other scripts (Sundanese, etc.), I need someone knowledgeable enough to talk with first. So if there's other editors out there with the know-how, I'll be happy to make the transliteration tools in those script. Bennylin (talk) 13:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Thereʻs one already out there for Sundanese (http://sabilulungan.org/aksara/). I'll see who I can contact for Balinese and the others, but Iʻm fairly certain that apart from Balinese, the scripts are not too complicated. For Rejang, all the sources show it to be a simple abugida but also with a couple final consonant diacritics. DerekWinters (talk) 15:24, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
OOT: After scratching my head because I've seen you around somewhere in the maze of the WMF projects, yet, you're profile page is still red here; now after you mentioned the Sundanese script transliterator, it dawned to me that you're the one at en.wikt moving Javanese and Sundanese lemmas to their respective scripts (in fact, I just browsed [2] yesterday, puzzled who is this guy that knows about Sundanese script :D). I wanted to contact you at that time, because, as much as I wanted to see the script as the title of the page, still the fact remains that 1) not all people could read it, and it has been Latinized for so long now, it is now the de facto script of the Javanese language, 2) technically less than 50% of the browsers could display them properly (in the case of Javanese script), and 3) the ordering (if they ever get ordered, for example in the category page), is not what people expected; they would expect similar ordering like Latin (A-Z), or at least the "hanacaraka" ordering that we've learned for all our lives, but for God-know-what-reason, the people who submit the Javanese language to the Unicode Consortium decided to do what they did, and all convention was broken.
Now I don't know what the en.wikt policy about multiple scripts of the same word/lemma, but in jv.wikt, both scripts existed as separate page, that links to each other. There, the Javanese script-titled page/lemmas would have the definition written in Javanese scripts too, because that would be natural, as in the Javanese dictionary/encyclopedias that were published before the turn of the 20th century. Mixing local script title and Latin lemmas are quite confusing.
It seems to me, then, that you're looking for transliterator to do this kind of work for the Balinese language/script. While adding the script to the definition page would be commendable, but moving the whole page would create undesired confusion, in my opinion. Please reconsider them accordingly.
Meanwhile, work has been started on http://bennylin.github.io/transliterasijawa/bali.html and probably would be usable in one or two days, and while on that, have you seen http://dictionary.basabali.org/ yet? I think it's an amazing Wiktionary-like site. Bennylin (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Oh ok. I haven't seen the jv.wikt pages yet. I think then that I'll simply add the transliterations to pages on en.wikt. And dictionary.basabali.org is actually fantastic. Thank you very much.
Oh and also, I hope you don't think I'm some wannabe who doesn't know anything about the scripts. I have learned them, Javanese first simply out of curiosity and the others soon followed. The order I see on wiktionary resembles the standard ordering of all Brahmic scripts, but it still seems illogical to follow it considering the separate tradition the Javanese have followed. Would it be possible, perhaps, to alter the ordering that wiktionary uses? And for the murda forms for proper names whenever added, those could follow directly after their regular counterpart. I'm not certain where the swara would go, but I think in front would make most sense. Also the aksara rekan would have to go somewhere. DerekWinters (talk) 20:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Can you also do me a huge favor and help me with the pronunciation of the "for Chinese sounds" section of the aksara rekan bit at http://www.omniglot.com/writing/javanese.htm ? It's not very clear at all from what they have. DerekWinters (talk) 20:53, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
Neophytes are warmly welcomed :D. It's true that the brahmic orderings (ka-ga-nga) still used in several scripts (i.e. Lampung script and Rejang script), but in Javanese and Balinese it's been largely obsolete/forgotten/replaced by the hanacaraka ordering. Now the Unicode decided to resurrect the ka-ga-nga ordering for Javanese/Balinese, and there's nothing that we could to to "unsort" them back to hanacaraka. Murda is more wacky, so let's avoid that topic for now, since wiktionary (I hope) would rarely use them. Swara in the front of the word are technically used for loanwords, either from Indonesian or from other languages. But that would require an authoritative source to list what words are still considered "foreign", and what foreign words have been fully absorbed; the good rule of thumb is that capital "A, E, I, O U" would get aksara swara (i.e. Agustus, Allah, etc., compare to other capital Latin that doesn't necessarily have to use the murda form: "September", "November", "Desember", etc.). As for Aksara rekan for Chinese, I myself are as confused as the person next to me... it's basically a crude transliteration table, largely incomplete and hugely not standard Chinese, therefore can't deal with modern Chinese words. Without a (Javanese-Chinese) word list, it's impossible to determine their pronounciation. For a better table, I've started with the work of transliterating all possible Chinese voices to Javanese script in id:wikt:Indeks:Pinyin-Aksara_Jawa I haven't used any special scripts, but in the future I probably would need them for certain voices that's not in basic Javanese script. Bennylin (talk) 16:57, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Oh see what I meant was to resort them on wiktionary only. Is that possible? DerekWinters (talk) 22:01, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
Have you finished the Balinese transliterator yet? DerekWinters (talk) 19:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)