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Hi there! With this, I'm not quite sure what is wrong with using, say, "plants-related"? Looks perfectly OK to me. Could you, please, clarify? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:07, May 5, 2009 (UTC)

It's a little odd-sounding. "Plant-related" would be correct. Government and scientific usage are not always the best exemplars for what is stylistically customary. But if you want to run this by the mavens at WT:MOS to see what more stylistically attuned editors think, that'd be fine with me. olderwiser 21:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
The mavens at WT:MOS? I'd rather jump into a stream of flowing lava, thank you :) Anyway, I don't care all that much if the template simply says "related items"; it's just that I believe that a somewhat odd sounding structure (and I don't find it odd, by the way, but then I am not a native speaker, so I'll trust your judgement on that) is still more useable than a completely generic notice. I'm going to leave the template alone for the time being. If another great idea visits me, I'll try it out, but until then you folks have fun of your own :) Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 01:32, May 6, 2009 (UTC)

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Burger King

Hello, my friend. In The Burger King, the words the King are used just as a shorthand way of referring to the character after his full name has been mentioned once, like saying the President for President Obama in second and subsequent references, or the editor for you or me, once we have been properly introduced by our screen names to our vast audience of readers. Thanks for taking a look at my offerings. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:17, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, yes, sort of. Except that "the king" is a fairly well-known moniker for the mascot. If it were not for the ungrammaticality of referring to the mascot as simply "king", it might merit mentioning on King (disambiguation). But since the form is nearly always as "the king" rather than simply "king", I think it fits better on The King (disambiguation). olderwiser 17:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Not the way I see it, but not worth quarreling over. Cheers! I'd buy you a burger if I knew you ate meat. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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The article was moved again, could you move it back. Also the page on Fedora is a duplicate, the user couldn't move it due to a redirect in place. Antonio López (desu) 17:47, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

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Please be advised the per WP:PROD, articles that have previously been proposed for deletion using the prod process are not candidates for prod. Accordingly, I have removed the prod tag from Gathania, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the prod template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Varbas (talk) 04:34, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

"tweak coords and avoid redirects"

In your edit to the Leelanau County NRHP list, what did you mean by this edit summary? I can't find anything that you changed, except for the coords. Nyttend (talk) 22:50, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

There was an edit conflict. I had already written the summary, but you had already changed the ", MI" links to ", Michigan". olderwiser 00:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Aha. Yeah, that's a problem with the table generator; I'm not entirely sure why Elkman, who operates the generator, hasn't changed it...but at least it's not a big problem. Nyttend (talk) 01:10, 30 May 2009 (UTC)


As an established editor of the article Mole (animal), your input is solicited on the Talk page to help resolve an ongoing dispute as to the nature and scope of the article. Chrisrus (talk) 02:08, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Penny (The Rescuers)

Hey there, I requested this article's deletion because it is a continuous target of the persistent socks of User:Bambifan101. He has returned in the past and restored the page using the history. If the history cannot be deleted, can you put a semi-protect on it, such as was done with his other targets Rufus (The Rescuers) and Bernard (The Rescuers)? Thanks. Cactusjump (talk) 21:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll see. I don't do much with page protection, but it should be no problem if the other similar redirects are also protected. olderwiser 21:39, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. I just had a heck of a time this morning reverting all his shenanigans, most of them which were restoring all these pages. Whew. Cactusjump (talk) 21:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

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Are you sure about the function of disambiguation pages?

Are you sure about the function of disambiguation pages? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes. See WP:Disambiguation and WP:MOSDAB. olderwiser 21:58, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Show me clearly the exact sentence please.-- (talk) 22:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Try reading it for yourself. I've no time to spoon-feed those unwilling to bother making an attempt to teach themselves. olderwiser 22:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You simply do not know the rule. Hahaha141.89.77.122 (talk) 22:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Right, and you evidently don't have a clue. olderwiser 22:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

So you admit that you do not know the rule. -- (talk) 22:08, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. I don't have the time to spoon-feed ignoramouses. olderwiser 22:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, really? But you seem have time to delete something.-- (talk) 22:10, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that falls into the category of constructive uses of my time. olderwiser 22:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I see. Have fun with your time to delete useful things.-- (talk) 22:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You are really incapable and unwilling to understand and explain the rule in Wikipedia

Are you capable to do that? Are you willing to do that?-- (talk) 06:13, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Not worth wasting my time on someone unwilling to make any effort beyond leaving annoying messages. olderwiser 11:17, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Bingo! You are really incapable and unwilling to understand and explain the rule in Wikipedia! You admit this by youself! So you have no right to modify those pages. Please go away from those pages. -- (talk) 11:22, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Such nonsense. Stop bothering me. olderwiser 11:30, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

OK, I will ignore you.-- (talk) 11:36, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Show me the links you talked about

You said the site "with a lot of dead or broken links". Is that true? Show me the links you talked about.--SayNoToHypocritical (talk) 10:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Joe jobbing

I think our Edgewater Hotel spammer (see MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/June spam) is trying to bait us into blacklisting -- that's a Chamber of Commerce domain, not one of his. Certainly his edit summaries seem calculated to goad us into this; see Special:Contributions/ This behaviour even has a name; it's known as a "Joe job".

I suggest that when he turns back up again with a new IP to spam a Chamber of Commerce link you just let the link stand and ignore him.

I blacklisted every Edgewater-related domain that I could find but I suspect our spammer owns more; I'll be happy to blacklist new ones as they reappear. Just list them at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist with a link to the June archive section above. If you're unsure as to the domain's ownership, let me know and I'll check them. I spent several hours researching the various domains and business relationships associated with our earlier Put-in-Bay spam and I kept those notes. --A. B. (talkcontribs) 20:15, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought that as well until we now see that is being redirected to another privately owned web site called Who is says it is registered to Island Business Solutions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:19, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

NME (disambiguation)

Why revert NME (disambiguation) to a version that is poorly written, poorly organized, unalphabetized, and doesn't fit with WP:MOSDAB? 12:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

How does it not fit with WP:MOSDAB? the current version seems more in line with MOSDAB than the previous version in that 1) leaves only one blue link per entry; 2) removes an entry where the use is unsupported by the linked articles; 3) uses legitimate redirects for the target use. olderwiser 12:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC) Although, I do see where I left a duplicate entry in -- fixed that. olderwiser 12:28, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Good point about the multiple blue links in one line. I have now realphabetized the items. Thanks. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

correct tidying?

21:45, 5 June 2009 Bkonrad (talk | contribs) (858 bytes) (tidy a bit)

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Please don't be evil.

Don't delete knowledge any more.--SayNoToHypocritical (talk) 15:53, 9 June 2009 (UTC)


I apologize to you. I should be polite.--SayNoToHypocritical (talk) 17:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:I Seek To Help & Repair!

Hi, I shamelessly used your signature as an example here. Let me know if you have a problem with it, and I'll edit my post. Jafeluv (talk) 22:01, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I've no problem with that. olderwiser 03:00, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Vassar, MI

I fail to understand why it is that you remove data based on the idea that it is "trivia." If anything outside of demographics and geographical location is considered trivia, then why not strip every other page on Wikipedia that contains anything you deem as "worthless facts." I could visit every page on Wikipedia and cite example after example of data I feel is trivia on 99/100 of those pages. Nick David being a local legend in Vassar is as equally important as the Jersey Devil being a legend in the Pine Barrens or Kimbo Slice being a fight legend in Miami. Do I need to add a section called "local legends" or something to that effect to have this fact stick? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:49, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, for starters you might try providing some reliable sources that allow verification of the assertion. olderwiser 10:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

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The Thumb

If Averyplayer2011's data was messed up in Deford, Michigan, is it wrong in this article? Best to you. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2009 (UTC) Stan

So far as I can tell, the only change made to the Thumb article was to add Deford to the list of largest cities. [1] It's a little odd, as Deford isn't a city, but then again, Caro is technically a village rather than a city. I'm not that familiar with the Thumb area, so Deford might well be large enough to merit mention. I dunno. olderwiser 18:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Deford is considered a large area of population for the Thumb region but right now, Deford, Michigan is looking at for vandalism by Michael herc. The Information provided by Avery_player2011 for the thumb and Deford are mostly true except some of the comments made on the Deford page (Notable Landmarks etc.) Believe me, i live in the area.

Bernette Bernette 00:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)(talk) 00:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

The change to the Thumb of Michigan about Deford being one of the largest towns is completely false. It is neither a city nor a village. It is an unincorporated community (in Michigan, called a hamlet). It is only home to 1,611 residents for the entire ZIP code [2]. This does not warrant a large city if you ask me. I would advise that whoever is doing this to the page be looked at for vandalism. Mrhercli89 (talk) 05:27, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


Hello. Just wanted to let you know that I re-blocked (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) for one month. While the IP is listed as belonging to an ISP, it has been used by this particular spammer (see MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/June spam) for the past couple of weeks. If you disagree with my change, please feel free to revert it back to your original block duration. Thanks, — Kralizec! (talk) 01:23, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Edited Pages

Hello, I am a current Political Science student at WCCCD in Michigan. I am working on an assignment for my Political Science class. For the class assignment I edited the three pages that you changed back on purpose to see how long it takes to get incorrect information deleted or corrected. I do not plan on editing articles just for the fun of it. This was only for my class assignment. I hope this hasn't caused you any trouble, the intent was to see how long misinformation stays on the Wikipedia site. Thank you for your understanding and if I can be of any help, please contact me at By the way, I live in Brownstown Michigan and I have a Black Walnut tree in my next door neighbors' yard. Take Care.Wcccdps101 (talk) 03:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Deford MI

thank you for being kind and helping me on my page. I just wanted to thank you. My page since then has been a victim of vandalism. thanks for all your help!

"list them in new category if you want, but these are not communities"

Are you suggesting that these three CDPs should be listed as CDPs on the county template? Nationwide, all CDPs are linked from county templates, whether they're listed as CDPs or not — there's no good reason to state that a "settled concentration of population that is identifiable by name but is not legally incorporated under the laws of the state in which it is located" is not a community. Nyttend (talk) 12:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Personally, I would prefer that there not be a separate category for CDPs. In most cases, CDPs do correspond to some degree to recognizable communities. However, there are some CDPs where the CDP is purely and solely a statistical abstraction and there is no community corresponding to the name of the CDP. In such cases, if you are going to insist on including every CDP on the county templates, then they should go in a distinct category -- these should not be identified as communities. olderwiser 12:38, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
I just really couldn't believe that you thought that there should be a CDPs line at all, since you'd been so strongly opposed to such an idea in the past. Thanks for fixing my confusion. Nyttend (talk) 01:14, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for undoing my edit. I didn't look clearly enough at the references. Sorry, and thanks again. Lәo(βǃʘʘɱ) 19:28, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

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