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Flood update[edit]

Hello Boomur: as promised, I've done some digging into the UK reviews for this album. It appears that it was released in the UK on March 5, 1990, although I can't confirm that 100%. "Birdhouse in Your Soul" was released as a single in the UK on January 26, 1990. I've found the original reviews from all five major UK music publications of the time: as you can see, they were all generally very favourable, with the exception of Melody Maker.

"Flood contains all the elements that characterised their first two albums; that is the 19 tracks here are a weird and wonderful varied combination of the zany, trivial, witty and wacky, delivered with a spritely foot-tapping ease that belies their bizarre subject matter". Jerry Smith, NME, March 10, 1990, p. 36 – (8/10)

"The sole attributable reason for the duo surviving beyond the engaging novelty stage is that their (collective) ear for a tune prevails over the characteristically nasal vocal delivery and overt tinkering with gimmickry... This is a real cryptic crossword of an album, requiring perserverance and application with ultimately rewarding and fulfilling results". Andy Ross, Sounds, March 17, 1990, p. 47 – (4/5)

"With 18 tracks to choose from and working soundly on the principle that if you don't like one, never mind, there'll be another along in a couple of minutes, Flood is as playful an entertainment as will be heard all year". Peter Kane, Q, issue 42, March 1990, p. 76 – (4/5)

"If it is to be faulted, the album is a mite too cluttered for its own good, but the virtues of imagination and originality that these native New Yorkers display are worthy of enthusiastic approval". Iestyn George, Record Mirror, March 10, 1990, p. 18 – (4/5)

"One's reaction to the TMBG school of anarcho-wackiness hinges upon one's general feelings about similarly zany characters like Talking Heads and Frank Zappa. If their very American, very beatnik, surrealism spells instant yawnarama, forget TMBG – they're the same thing, but minus the good tunes." Caroline Sullivan, Melody Maker, March 31, 1990, p. 35 – (no rating, Melody Maker didn't employ a rating system)

Feel free to use as much or as little of this as you want. :-) Cheers. Richard3120 (talk) 08:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Richard! i'll see if i can put these into the article, although the Q review is already in there! i'm a little rusty on writing prose so i might delay excessively, but i'll get to it! ~ Boomur 22:35, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Digital Dermatitis[edit]

Hi Boomur, why did you remove my link to Digital Dermatitis on Strawberry Foot Rot? They are synonyms: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel-B0ise (talkcontribs) 14:57, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

@Daniel-B0ise: hi, dermatology isn't a topic i'm completely familiar with, and it seemed to me like the articles had conflicting information, which was why i reverted your edit. i assumed that if digital dermatitis and dermatophilus congolensis were the same condition, they would not be separate articles. my impression is that dermatophilus congolensis is a type of digital dermatitis that can be called strawberry foot rot, and therefore it's not correct to say that all digital dermatitis is strawberry foot rot, which was suggested by your link. in addition, the link was not formatted correctly. you can check out Help:Link for info on how to do internal wikilinks. ~ Boomur 21:15, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

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Flood additions[edit]

Hi, I've added the reviews from the four UK weekly music publications (NME, Melody Maker, Sounds and Record Mirror) to the critical reception section – feel free to edit these and move them around as you wish. The reason I left the Record Mirror review out of the album ratings box is not just because the box is not supposed to contain more than ten ratings, but also because of the four magazines it was always viewed as the least credible and most 'teen pop' orientated, which is undoubtedly true (but we're not talking Hello! or anything similarly vacuous, it certainly covered alternative music as well and I remember articles and reviews of the first two TMBG's albums in there back in the late 1980s).

One other thing I would mention: you have the European release date down as a week before the US release in early January. I can't speak for the rest of Europe, but I have a reference from the NME issue dated February 24 that states that Flood was due to be released the following week, which would suggest the UK release date was February 26, 1990, although seeing that most of the UK reviews are from March 10 onwards I wonder whether the release was delayed a week to March 5. Anyway, one thing we can certainly state is that Flood was not released in the UK in early January, but late February at the earliest, which would tie up with "Birdhouse"'s UK release as well. Did you have a reference to back up the January 8 European release date? Richard3120 (talk) 09:33, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

thanks Richard! i have to apologize; i genuinely forgot that i hadn't added in the articles you found till yesterday. i planned on adding them today, but i'm glad you got to it first because i was sort of unsure of how to go about it and i really like your prose. i'm replying from my phone right now, but i'll review the release date information once i can get on a computer. thanks for the note and for your help in general! ~ Boomur 16:26, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I'd actually forgotten I'd sent you the quotes in the first place! The reason I'd added them now is that I'm off on Thursday to Colombia so my internet access will be intermittent for a few weeks, and I thought I'd better do as much editing as I can before I go. Richard3120 (talk) 16:55, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Okay, i looked a bit more into release dates. it's still pretty hard to tell what exactly the correct date is. as far as i can tell, there are about four possibilities: January 8, the date found on TMBW, which a friend tells me can be found in a paper review that he has (although he does not have it on hand at the moment—he claims the date is mentioned in the past tense but this is impossible to verify at this point, so i think it's moot); January 12, which is printed in a German press release (scan here) but doesn't seem to have any other weight; February 26, based on your reasoning of the NME review; and March 5, based on the fact that all 5 UK reviews were indeed published in March. aforementioned friend just informed me that another review anticipates a January 5 release date. it's safe to say the release got pushed back at least once. i agree that late February/early March is most likely, but since it's not possible to determine a more specific date at this point, perhaps the safest move would be to just say "1990"; maybe we could include a note with an explanation of the uncertainty? that is, if it's possible to condense this into something coherent. ~ Boomur 18:21, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
actually, i'd like to just have my friend (Aselfcallednowhere) comment directly on this discussion, so i think it's best if i start a new thread (perhaps with some information from this thread) on Talk:Flood (They Might Be Giants album). is that all right with you? ~ Boomur 18:29, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Yes, of course. Looking at that German press release, "veröffentlicht" means "published", so I am wondering if the date of 12 January actually referes to the date of the press release rather than the album itself. It is pretty clear that this is only the first page of the press release and that there was at least one more, by the way it only goes up to 1986 and the release of the first album: I wonder if the other page(s) would actually tell you Flood's proposed release date, if we had copies of them. Scratch that, I've just found the second page, and it makes no mention of a date. :-( Richard3120 (talk) 19:03, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
I had the same suspicion about the German press release, it just seems weird to me that they would include the date of publication and not the album release date (but i don't really know the precedent for German PR). the second page (which i extremely roughly translated here; first one here) doesn't have any more date-related information, except their German tour dates.
BUT, i've started a new thread at Talk:Flood (They Might Be Giants album)#EU/UK release date, so let's direct our attention there. ~ Boomur 19:02, 21 October 2014 (UTC)