User talk:Brian Crawford

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CAF Insignia[edit]

Hi Brian: You’ve done a very thoughtful and expert job in editing, clarifying, fixing the Mark-up formats and more and that is all appreciated. You may also be correct that there is too much detail for a general article but my particular interest is specifically to present the extensive detail around the CAF Insignia, which has been hitherto confusing to many. For those out there who are reenactors, collect military insignia, or have a historical interest in the specifics of uniforms, I feel this detail is necessary and previously unavailable in a focused discussion. Perhaps it would be best if I created a new Category dealing specifically with CAF Insignia for my content. In fact, I had hoped that others would add to the detail, not reduce it. For example, additional information on sizes (widths), weights, metal composition, structure and manufacture, hallmarks, variations, etc. could be added to this discussion.

You could have a paragraph on insignia in the general article with a

tag at the top -- that would expand to "Main article:Canadian Air Force (CAF) Insignia (1920-24)" (or something similar) with the link. Likewise, the Insignia article could have a link to the main “Canadian Air Force (1920–24)” category.

I have some confirmation of this suggestion based on feedback I received from two individuals who read my first draft. The first is from my mentor in the field, and one of the most knowledgeable collectors of Air Crew Insignia in the Country. He said:

• You've done a great job with the insignia, and I agree the table makes it easier to follow. • The wiki insignia page is a good idea too

And from a dealer here in Alberta;

• I really appreciate this info... It is good to know these things. I had thought that a couple of the cap badges I had were replicas, but on seeing the info I see they are NCO. Thank you very much.

I considered the table was a valuable aspect of the presentation, specifically because it directly related to the Insignia images. I feel it actually clarifies the situation rather than introduces redundancy. I think I am correct too in saying that WP:EN does not do galleries -- an annotated gallery for the insignia might or might not fly, depending on how much information there is besides the images. Commons galleries, on the other hand, are intended to have minimal text -- only brief captions. There's probably no overlap between a WP:EN page that is an annotated gallery and a Commons gallery.

By redirecting my CAF Insignia content into a new Category I will create, I think we can both win from the change. And the constructive edits you’ve made to my writing will be very valuable in the new, specific category of CAF Insignia. I hope you agree that is a good option. A much better place (talk) 18:42, 1 February 2015 (UTC), Wayne

Hi, Wikipedia tries to be succinct in the amount of information articles contain and how it is presented. I removed the table since it basically repeated information that was already in the article text and in the captions. As far as the amount of information/detail is concerned, this page may help in explaining the context behind general articles: wp:summary style. From wp:NOT, "An encyclopedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details, but a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject." So, intricate detail is not necessary in Wikipedia; it's just an encyclopedia, not an exhaustive reference. To expound a bit more on the topic, however, a sub article with the title you proposed is a great idea. I'm not sure about what you were referring to about galleries, but gallery sections are fine as long the collection of images "can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images". They also must have encyclopedic value and be suitably captioned to explain their relevance, and not repetitive (see wp:gallery). I'd be glad to help with this new article and I am sure the new insignia article will add value to Wikipedia and help promote a better understanding of Canada's military history. BTW, I do find the insignia information most interesting.-- BC  talk to me 19:37, 1 February 2015 (UTC)


Notice Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board#Guess work editor -- Moxy (talk) 17:12, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you so much for updating the Canadian bib ...we could use someone with your knowledge over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Bibliographies...we are a small group ...but we get a lot done (Wikipedia:List of bibliographies) -- Moxy (talk) 18:33, 7 March 2015 (UTC)