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Extraordinary wiki suppression mechanisms[edit]

Discussion is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Guideline_or_Policy_proposals — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.181.82.216 (talk) 14:44, 9 September 2014 (UTC) ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Here are my thoughts on the matter of suppressing information found in RS which might endanger the lives, in this case, of terrorist captives.

There is a hatted the discussion on Jimbo's talk page. Note that I haven't followed this matter closely, and I haven't even read that thread...yet, because I want to develop some of my thoughts without any influence from such discussions. My thoughts have to do with the concept of "risk/degree of harm" and how notability/publicity is a big factor.

I leave open as a legitimate possibility that, to cause less harm, we sometimes may need to (temporarily) ignore RS and suppress the information here. We are not obligated to immediately use any or all RS which exist, only to use them when we finally do write about a subject. If we choose to temporarily ignore a subject, then we can keep the RS on our own PCs at home. The issue is that most RS related to current events are of a temporary, less notable, nature. They are newspaper and magazine articles. Print media are already gone tomorrow, but on the internet they may remain visible for a short while, and then are archived, often behind a paywall, so many of them do disappear, but not all of them. Those forms of RS coverage have limited notability and thus a limited potential for causing harm.

If we accept that Wikipedia likely has the largest degree of notability on the internet, and that by enshrining these otherwise temporary RS into very notable and high profile articles here, we are greatly increasing the degree of risk/harm, then we are justified in temporarily suppressing coverage of a story which can increase the risk of great harm to individuals.

Wikipedia magnifies and amplifies the influence of RS, and we share the responsibility for consequences. Our articles can increase the likelihood of individuals being used as hostages, or being moved to the front of the line of hostages to next be executed. Their notability and value to kidnappers and terrorists was greatly increased by Wikipedia, and we actually facilitated and hastened their demise! It's a rather sobering thought, and should cause us to take our job seriously. We must consider BLP issues and potential for harm each time we are dealing with such matters.

These principles need to be encoded into policy, likely as an addition to WP:BLP. It needs to be explicit, and not hidden away. For the record, avoiding harm was rejected, including as part of BLP. It's now just an essay. -- Brangifer (talk) 15:10, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Because this issue lies at the crossroads of WP:BLP, WP:RECENTISM, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:CRIME, and possibly other guidelines and policies, it needs its own name. -- Brangifer (talk) 16:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

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Straw Poll[edit]

There is a straw poll that may interest you regarding the proper use of "Religion =" in infoboxes of atheists.

The straw poll is at Template talk:Infobox person#Straw poll.

--Guy Macon (talk) 09:18, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:Metacompiler[edit]

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Talk:Ken Ham[edit]

There is a discussion at Talk:Ken Ham#Removal of sourced content concerning edits you have been involved in. - - MrBill3 (talk) 01:00, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

NCCAM[edit]

Hello, I noticed your edit on the acupuncture page and reverted it based on the justification you gave in the edit summary. The NCCAM is an extension of the NIH, which is clearly a MEDRS source. Their advisory council is made up of mostly M.D.'s and the types of people you would expect to populate something the NIH was involved in. Anyway, since Wikipedia only gives us a very limited space to add edit summaries in, you may have had a longer explanation that you feel better justifies your edit. If so, please feel free to revert me and explain yourself in any further detail on the acupuncture talk page. Thanks! LesVegas (talk) 23:16, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Revert of my edit[edit]

Hello, I noticed you recently reverted an edit I had made and wanted to let you know we had discussed this very topic on the talk page. It's a little disorganized in parts so you probably didn't notice the discussion. I will tell you no editors who discussed it have said what you did, that it was "not a review" and that it does not "meet MEDRS requirements." But you might have a point that we have not considered and I welcome you to make it on talk. I didn't want to restore the edit until we have heard from you fully because that's just a recipe for senseless edit warring that nobody wants. Hope to hear from you soon! Peace! LesVegas (talk) 02:09, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the notification. I have commented there. Thanks again! -- Brangifer (talk) 04:08, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

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