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Go Seigen[edit]

I have gone back and put back my edit. There appear to be a few things we do not agree on, but here is my two cents: First of all, the ordering of surname and first name should be along the lines of Asian tradition in order to show proper respect to the individuals whose names are mentioned. Having studied East Asian culture and interacted with quite a number of people native in Korea, Japan, and China, I have found that they all prefer to have their names, when appearing in Western literature, ordered with last names first. It is quite disrespectful to have their given names appear before their last names. If Wikipedia has a particular policy dictates otherwise, well, it is simply WRONG. If you read Japanese or Chinese, which I do, you would find that Japanese and Chinese sections of Wikipedia honor the Western tradition of ordering first and last names (i.e. first names first, last names last).

I agree on how the names should be that way. The articles for those players were that way when I created them, but since Wikipedia instilled this new policy, they must be listed this way on Wikipedia.

Second, Go Seigen's affliation should be "honorary member of the Nihon Ki-in", NOT "retired". It does NOT make any sense to state one's affliation as "retired". That is NOT the definition of the word "affliation". Thus, to indicate that Go Seigen is currently retired, it must be assigned to the category of "status".

I had not included this because I was incorporating the set template. My mistake.

Third, you added that Hashimoto Utaro would go on to found Kansai Kiin in the section listing Go Seigen's jubango opponents. This simply is NOT needed, as the entry focuses on Go Seigen, and should you feel you want to inform readers of Mr. Hasimoto's achievements, it should be added to his respective Wiki entry.

The reason I listed that is because it adds light to the fact that at the time, Utaro was a respectable go player and that Go Seigen defeating him was a noted achievement.

Lastly, it is convenient for the readers to have links to the various concepts and names mentioned in the article. This is simply good sense.

It is convienent, but especially with a long article like that, extra links leads to extra loading times. Not everyone has a fast connection, and I would doubt anyone would want to wait longer just for a few more links. Can 03:22, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Unspecified source for Image:9Ppromotion.jpg[edit]

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Go project here[edit]

Hello. You might be interested in Wikipedia:WikiProject Go. Charles Matthews 12:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

== Preview, Group, Summarize ==[edit]

Thank you for your edits, but care needs to be exercised. Among other things, please consider 1) Describing each edit with the Edit Summary box (above the Save Page button), 2) Grouping edits together to reduce the number of edits in the Page History to make it easier for fellow editors to monitor the edits, 3) Using the Show Preview button. Hu 17:25, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Honinbo Shusai[edit]

Thank you for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your test worked, and it has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.
Mkdwtalk 07:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

You continue to make large cuts at Honinbo Shusai, without any comment at all, despite being given notice that this is unacceptable. Please note that this behaviour can affect adversely your status of editor here. Charles Matthews 15:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
You are continuing to edit war at Go Seigen. Wikipedia does not accept edits that are just personal opinions. You are in breach of basic policies by insisting on inserting your views. Only factual matters and comments quoted from others are acceptable. You have been making edits that endanger your status as editor here: removing references in the Shusai article, and using inflammatory comments as edit summaries. I am cautioning you that these are treated as very serious matters. Charles Matthews 16:40, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
Your comments only make it ever clearer that you are using Wikipedia to give your personal opinions, on a historical personage. This is unacceptable. If you continue to do this, I will take this to a dispute procedure. Charles Matthews 22:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


Disputed fair use rationale for Image:GovsShusai.jpg[edit]

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Image copyright problem with Image:My Go Equipment 2.JPG[edit]

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Image change at Go (board game)[edit]

Hi By78,

You have recently changed the image at Go (board game). I have started a section on that at Talk:Go_(board_game)#New_image_for_the_article. I have discussed pros and cons of both images there, and have asked whether you would be willing to make a new photo with some of the cons in the current one fixed. Please respond over there. Regards, HermanHiddema (talk) 09:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

I read your comments at Talk:Go (board game)‎ and would strongly advise you to comment on only on content and avoid making what are seen as personal attacks on other contributors. The combative and aggressive tone of your posts is not acceptable. Tim Vickers (talk) 21:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
We also have a saying, don't bite the newcomers. I know that TimVickers is well meaning, but I also want to welcome By78 and hope that they are not offended by this advice - as they are aware, it's all just a part of learning proper Wiki-editquette. Oakwillow (talk) 06:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Arjun MBT - Edit war?[edit]

Hello. I noticed that you and Chanakyathegreat use to revert each other's edit on this article, actually you are even accusing Chanakythegreat of vandalism for putting up referenced material. I find this a bit unfortunate since it doesn't help the article and from what I've read, you both seem to agree that there are several problems with the development of the Arjun, so why can't you just work together? Regards, De728631 (talk) 23:33, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I've read the talk page, now I see what's happening here. De728631 (talk) 23:51, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

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Why are you vandalising the Arjun MBT page[edit]

I had a lot of patience and had not reported you to Admins. Now I had done it. Why you instantly revert without any concern for accuracy of the article.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 02:49, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Jauerback was an irresponsible Admin, who himself acted in support of vandalism. I had not reported him to violation by an Administrator. He just said I don't care about the content. If the Admins are not taking care about the content, then it will be really bad for Wikipedia. Now tell me which is outdated information. I had only added information after the report submission by the army and the trial conducted after this. What problem you have with it. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 03:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Man if you are interested in the correctness of the article and want to contribute in a positive manner, I welcome it. After vandalizing the article and then accusing the other by saying you pushing your agenda, I don't argue with you is not worth it. Such things has no meaning. The only criteria is correctness of the articles. If you are interested you can contribute in a positive manner.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 03:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

By78, please don't antagonize him by daring him to make changes without consensus. This isn't helping the discussion nor the article. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 09:53, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Arjun MBT arbitration[edit]

A request has been made for Arbitration of Arjun MBT issue.Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration
Chanakyathegreat (talk) 15:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Compromise[edit]

I had replied. What is your opinion?Chanakyathegreat (talk) 16:13, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Arjun MBT page[edit]

The real reason for the incorrect version existence and you being able to insert stuff that are wrong is just because the Admins are hostile towards me and not sticking to rules. You cannot answer/prove simple questions being asked and still able to edit the Arjun MBT page because of the Admins (They have still not understood the issue properly or directly take sides). I can wait. No hurry.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 03:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

You have not replied.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 15:33, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't want to force anything of my own. It's left to the Admins to decide which wording they use. The only thing that I asked is instead of saying HM Singh said so, it must be that the Army report says so. The wording can be anything like From the report submitted by the Indian Army it says.. or The Indian Army report on the trial states... etc. It's left to them, i don't have any problem with the wording, only asking the content to be correct. The third link becomes useless because the reporter writes in contrary to the Army report and the Ministry of defence report. Hence it need to be removed. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 04:15, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I again say, i am not forcing anything on them. The Admins have the freedom. I will not complain about the wording. Only asking to remove the errors in that section. If they want the draft for the section to be provided by me, I am ready to provide it. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 08:47, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
You are talking about the wording and not about informing the Admins about the edit. I did inform them and it was not unilateral. I made an entry into the talk page in 8th October 2008 in which I clearly explained what I expected the Admins to do to remove the errors in the section. Then asked about the opinion of the Admins by posting the request in their talk page. Not once but repeatedly. Has not received a response until now about what I had requested them. The Admins did act in a unilateral manner and blocked me. Their attitude has not changed. Even now they had not responded to my request. It's about 22 days from my request to correct the section. It's still not done.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 04:56, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
When someone request the Admins to correct a section, it is not done for fun. They must respond and correct the section. And if the user is making the correction, a good Admin must appreciate it. The error is still there and I had again asked the Admins to correct it. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 01:38, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

I certainly empathize with you. For some further accusations of conspiracy, lies and blatant misrepresentation of sources, you need only look at his past edits and the great power archive. I hope this current dispute will be resolved eventually. If you need any help mediating and offering a third opinion, please feel free to leave me a note. Nirvana888 (talk) 22:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Unwanted Reversals discussion[edit]

By78, as an FYI, that discussion was actually related to the Medium Combat Aircraft article, not Arjun MBT. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 19:32, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Requests for arbitration[edit]

Requests for arbitration has been made on the Arjun MBT page[1].Chanakyathegreat (talk) 06:00, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

By78, I've read this discussion and I'm quite sure that this RfA will be declined given the present state and the fact that RfAs should only be filed as a last resort. Let me know if another incident erupts in the future. Good luck. Nirvana888 (talk) 12:41, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Removal of sections[edit]

Please don't remove the whole section while editing. Put a fact for the source to be added. It's not just that only I can contribute by providing links. You can also do it. Chanakyathegreat (talk) 01:42, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

INS Tabar (F44)[edit]

Woops...we had a conflict here. I'm just going to go in and re-add your stuff. It wasn't a purposeful deletion. Lihaas (talk) 00:35, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

There was a whole set of WP:Overlink changed in our conflicting edits. I'm just going to restore that, so as to clear it of wikipedia's guidelines. Then I'll go ahead and re-add your stuff. The "WP:Overlink + template" stuff was removed off the cross-edit. Lihaas (talk) 00:40, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
That's cool. Obviously we both were ;)
Check it out now. Lihaas (talk) 00:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Arjun MBT[edit]

You are welcome to give your suggestions on improving the Arjun MBT page.Chanakyathegreat (talk) 13:51, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Economy of India[edit]

I understand that you have a frustration with the info-box at this article and I can see that you have been attempting to adjust it in the back-ground. I have however reverted your complete removal of the box as that does not assist the situation and will cause further edit-warring at the page. Can I suggest you adjust the various components you do not agree with and provide references so that your case is supported by verifiable facts. I ask you to note that I am acting as an interested administrator in relation to this article and I do not have any particular opinion as to content - other than an info box should be present. Best wishes.--VS talk 01:29, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

How to define a city proper for Chinese cities[edit]

Core districts + inner suburbs is a common definition used in various statistical tables. Remember that List of cities proper by population is about the city proper and not the urban area nor the metropolitan area. Why choose a World Gazetteer definition for Shanghai but not other cities of China. At the very least, make your definitions consistent within one country. Are you prepared to do that? --Polaron | Talk 03:43, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

In response to your comments on my talk page, the World Gazetteer is not perfect. The article doesn't use it as a primary reference, but rather to fill in gaps when up-to-date figures are hard to find. And there is no sense in comparing Chinese city figures to Indian ones; the reason exceptions are made for Chinese cities is because the Chinese definition of a city is so broad that it tends to include rural areas. For example, Chongqing's city limits extend across a region the size of Austria, with a population of 40 million people, which would look ridiculous on a list. For this reason, people have been using "core districts + inner suburbs" for the city proper figure. The World Gazetteer doesn't make clear what area its figure applies applies to, so it hasn't been used. I'm not going to revert your edit, but I think this discussion should be continued on the talk page of the article. Someone the Person (talk) 04:00, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

You made a good point on my talk page, but look at other entries on Chinese cities. They all use "core districts," or "core districts plus inner suburbs." Beijing -- core districts and inner suburbs. Tianjin -- core districts plus inner suburbs. Guangzhou, Wuhan, Chongqing, Shenyang -- all core districts. I didn't put those figures or those definitions there; they are already there. If you want to use a different figure for Shanghai, then I suggest that the figures also be changed for the other Chinese cities, for the sake of consistency.

This is why I want to use "core districts + inner suburbs": It's true that Shanghai outside of core districts + inner suburbs is still Shanghai and still urban, but the list is not trying to measure urban areas; that's the purpose of List of urban areas by population. As for who named me the City-Proper-Definition Czar, I don't think either of us is the City-Proper-Definition Czar. Wikipedia's policy is not to include original research, so the fact that you have spent so much time in Shanghai doesn't make you the City-Proper-Definition Czar any more than I am. If either of us wants Shanghai to be at a certain position on the table, we need to discuss it on the talk page with other users rather than edit warring. Once a consensus is reached on the talk page, that consensus stays. Someone the Person (talk) 21:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

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April 2009[edit]

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Pictures[edit]

While you have great picture of the slums of Mumbai, it is not appropiate to keep on adding the one picture of Mumbai, as it's more appropriately placed in the mumbai article (after getting discussion), or poverty in India, dharavi, or slums. Especially on the largest cities page, where even though the other cities with pictures have large slums, especially Karachi, and yet those pictures are not being added for a reason. As it would be innappropiate there.Deavenger (talk) 03:10, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

Please stop adding the picture of Mumbai, as other editors have agreed to keep the pictures that were there before. I don't know what obession you have with the slums of Mumbai, but it's not appropiate to add that picture there. Sure, slightly over 50 percent live there according to an 8 year old report, but, it would not be appropiate. Like the slums of Karachi, Istanbul, or Shanghai should not be added there. There's a a place for those pictures like the economy of ______, poverty in ______, standard of living in _______, dharavi (or name of slum), slums. However, this page is not an appropiate place for the pictures of the slums of whatever city. If you keep this up, you can be blocked from editing.Deavenger (talk) 01:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Slums are an unfortunate part of Mumbai, and the rest of India, and it's not going to be changing anytime soon. Look at the three other cities (I'm actually kind of using pictures on the article overall, as they don't seem to add anything to article, as it's supposed to be just a list). Karachi has the largest slum in asia, yet I wouldn't add a picture if the Karachi slum, as I feel the picture (if we decide to keep the pictures) would not be appropiate there. There's slums in Istanbul (just listen to greek and a turk argue, not really fun). Shanghai has slums, and the picture I added was taken by you (very nice picture by the way, also think you have really nice pictures of the slums of Mumbai). Another problem was that you added the picture without discussing it first. I believe that after the first edit I undid of yours, I tried to discuss the issue with you, but you did not respond except for adding the picture back. Deavenger (talk) 02:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

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Images[edit]

Hello By78, you have uploaded a lot of images and released them into the public domain. The images do not appear to have been personally taken by yourself and as their is an element of doubt we require some evidence that you took the images or that you have permission from their owners. You need to provide some evidence that you have permission from the copyright holder to release them into the public domain, please refer to the procedure at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. If permission or evidence is not provided them all you uploaded images will be removed. Thanks for you cooperation. MilborneOne (talk) 05:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

All of your images or media files have been listed for deletion. Please see Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 May 28 if you are interested in preserving them. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 21:13, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Romani related articles[edit]

Your inclusion of *Rajasthan in a systematic fashion to a broad range of Romani related articles should be discussed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Romani people. In future, please also include a brief edit note to keep editors informed of changes you introduce. RashersTierney (talk) 00:37, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Aryan Invasion Theory?[edit]

You have recently removed some etymologies of the word "Cash" to Tamil, with the reason that the Aryan Invasion Theory and associated linguistics are false.

I do not think you understand what the Aryan Invasion Theory was - it was that White Indo-European speakers assimilated the dark-skinned indigenous peoples of India, and the evidence for it was that Indian languages spoken in the North were related to European languages (as to this day languages like Sanskrit, Hindi and Urdu are classified as Indo-European). Language has nothing to do with race; as an example, Turkish and Japanese belong to the same major language family (Altaic). The Tamil word Cash was a loanword and not a cognate word.

See List of English words of Tamil origin GSMR (talk) 01:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
* Err.. not quite. Firstly, Tamil belongs to the Dravidian family of languages, which is completely unrelated to the Indo-European family. I am not arguing the location of the Urheimat; that has no relevance to my concern. A loanword is one that is borrowed from one language to another, whether these languages are related does not matter. I mean, rickshaw is derived from Japanese, but you would not classify English and Japanese as belonging to the same language family, would you?

From Microsoft's Encarta Dictionary:

cash [kash]
(plural cash) 
noun 
small Asian coin: formerly, a coin of low value in China and some South Asian countries 


[Late 16th century. Via Portuguese caixa < Tamil kācu]
Microsoft® Encarta® 2008. © 1993-2007 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

See: http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861595275/cash.html
GSMR (talk) 02:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: No Thanks[edit]

"Sorry if that hurts your I-am-really-an-Aryan-German-despite-the-fact-I-am-from-India ego." Lol? I'm not one to fight fire with fire (or flame with flame) but intelligent arguments work for me. You should realize that the term Aryan has no racial connotations and refers only to language (that is, unless you are a neo-Nazi). Anyways, reporting to an admin for a Wikiquette alert. GSMR (talk) 03:00, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Wrong Word Sense[edit]

Please compare: http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861695526/cash.html and http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861595275/cash.html GSMR (talk) 03:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

June 2009[edit]

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If you continue to make personal attacks on other people as you did at User Talk:GSMR, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please review Wikipedia's No Public Attacks policy. Racism and racist comments are one of the worst forms of public attack. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:36, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

July 2009[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Acela Express. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. --DAJF (talk) 01:38, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Disruptive_behaviour_with_respect_to_Indian_military_capabilities.[edit]

This Thread at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history concerns some of your edits and may be of interest to you.Nigel Ish (talk) 19:49, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Enough[edit]

I have blocked you from editing for 24 hours for edit-warring, reverting, and disruptive editing across multiple articles. When your block expires, you are welcome to contribute productively. This means discussing content differences with other editors rather than reverting them and arguing in edit-summaries, and pursuing dispute resolution if necessary. If you continue disrupting Wikipedia in this way, your next block will be longer. EyeSerenetalk 21:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Indian triumphalism[edit]

I was checking out some military articles, and have in many cases surprised to see Indian claims at developing incredible arms etc. Good job on removing some of the Indian triumphalistic (read false) claim on so many articles on Wiki. I know there are still many out there. - Ben Coulton —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.22.83 (talk) 14:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

coolcesear and personal attacks[edit]

I noted your posting on coolcesear's talk page. That user regularly engages in very abusive behavior, and I encourage you to submit a complaint. I have tried to reason with the user, but without success. If enough of us submit complaints, maybe something might actually happen. Zoticogrillo (talk) 03:59, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

APIIC Tower[edit]

Regrading your revert of my edit, please see the discussion I've started at Talk:Skyscraper#Removal of APIIC Tower from Future Skyscrapers. Astronaut (talk) 23:39, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

I'm not the one changing articles and adding totally irrelevant facts to the article about ANOTHER country. If you revert the edit, I will report YOU for vandalism. Wikipedia is not a place for you to make your political statements, do it elsewhere (like your youtube profile: http://www.youtube.com/user/by78). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vedant (talkcontribs) 04:28, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

ANI[edit]

Hello, By78. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 23:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

INS Arihant[edit]

In response to the slow-moving edit war that you are engaged in on this article, with a distinct lack of working together to overcome the issues on the article's talk page, I have fully-protected the article, and the article will remain so until a compromise is agreed upon. Also, I will not hesitate to also protect Arihant class submarine if you begin to edit war on that article as well. -MBK004 02:28, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Editing of Indian Road Network[edit]

Perhaps you did not take full advantage of the revision compare feature but I never removed the information from world bank articles, I simply relocated them to the issues page. I have reverted your edits as the basis for them is not valid. I hope you will take time in the future to more properly review edits before changing articles however I assume you are acting in good faith. Vedant (talk) 00:36, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Addendum : I will assume you are acting in good faith DESPITE your inflammatory accusations against me regarding the contrary and your challenging of my sanity among other personal attacks. Have a nice day. Vedant (talk) 00:51, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I see you still resort to personal attacks. I do find it somewhat humourous that you didn't revert my Indian Road Network article but instead left a wonderful accusatory comment. Is it because your revert had no basis? It's okay Bo Yu of Columbus, Ohio, I forgive you. I just wanted to wish you the best of luck graduating from Ohio State University in 2010. I understand it can be quite upsetting to take an extra year (or two) to graduate and I suggest that if you need counseling, you speak to the guidance counselors who can assist you in the matter. In addition, I might add that I would be more than happy to render any assistance you require should the guidance counselors be unable to provide it. Vedant (talk) 01:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm more than happy to take a compliment except you are addressing that compliment to a user other than I on my talk page. Nothing is the matter however, I simply wanted to let you know that I was more than happy to counsel you on the matter of your late graduation from Ohio State University (one of the foremost scientific institutions in the world). Now if you would like to accuse me of acting as a sockpuppet for Chanakyathegreat, that is certainly your prerogative. Should I accuse you of maintaining off-site accounts all with the username By78? A simple Google search of the word Eendiah will reveal this By78's lack of neutrality. However I'd rather not engage in firing off inflammatory accusations on the matter seeing how it is purely coincidental that the famous "Eendiah" quote appears on many websites (including this one). Incase you are curious which quote I was alluding to, I will post it here for your review: "Eendiah, de laahgest deemahkrasi een de vehrald! Pawah to Eendiah! Eendiah vill be de Sooopa-Pawah in tdwantie-tdwantie".Vedant (talk) 01:33, 11 September 2009 (UTC)


Let me also add that I do not believe your edits are required as I have already made clear that issues exist with the road network. In addition I feel that your edits are haphazard and seem to be pushing an anti-neutral POV. If you want to take this to the Administrator level please feel free to do so as I can easily justify my edits. Vedant (talk) 02:29, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Lets take it to an administrator then. In the mean time, I would appreciate if you refrain from making any edits to the article.Vedant (talk) 02:38, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
In that event, I will be editing as I see fit as well.Vedant (talk) 02:46, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Harbor Crane Article[edit]

Using the port of Singapore is acceptable, you can also use images from Rotterdam or New York to illustrate. Vedant (talk) 02:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Correction[edit]

I am CattleBruiser2008, not Vedant. Read the bottom part of my channel description, the latest addition. GSMR (talk) 17:17, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you?[edit]

In the page Hybrid vehicle you appear to have made a Revision as of 02:37, 13 July 2009. You added text and some references. Two of those reference tags, <ref name=F3DM/> and <ref name=bwf3dm/> appear to be causing cite errors. Could you please go back and fill out the full sources to fix the cite errors. Thanks. 75.69.0.58 (talk) 00:34, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

September 2009[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Stock market. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Ioeth (talk contribs twinkle friendly) 17:51, 16 September 2009 (UTC)


Information.svg You are suspected of sockpuppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/By78. Thank you.

It does appear that you've used two accounts to edit Stock market, which would violate Wikipedia's policy on use of multiple accounts. Please review that policy and provide some explanation, if you'd like to avoid being blocked. – Luna Santin (talk) 17:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Admin noticeboards[edit]

Hi! Sorry to bother you, but I'd like to bring to your attention a thread on the admin noticeboards in which you've been mentioned: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#To the extreme. I'm not entirely sure what the posting user is looking for, but I thought you might want to know about it. Feel free to comment there, if you like. Thanks for your time. – Luna Santin (talk) 17:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Blocked[edit]

The block also includes your continued disruption and edit-warring on various pages. MuZemike 17:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

See you back in a week! Oh, I forgot, you evaded your block but thankfully Wikipedia users aren't stupid. I will be watching your edits closely and I will notify the admins if you resume your pattern of disruptive edits or personal attacks. Creating sock-puppets won't help you Bo Yu. Wikipedia doesn't care about your personal opinion. Vedant (talk) 03:49, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
By the way, what were you doing in Washington Court House? Vedant (talk) 03:49, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back![edit]

So, how was the break? You know, I thought another week would have done well to help you learn your lesson about sockpuppetry, given that the first block did not stop you... and so you could participate in the 60-year anniversary of the PRC, you know, being a PLA officer and all. Well, they mustn't be busy now. Welcome back! Love, Cattl- ah, GSMR (talk) 16:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

By all means[edit]

Go submit a sockpuppet request. Vedant (talk) 23:53, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh right... sorry I don't have the 2 blocks on my account... my bad. Vedant (talk) 23:53, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

November 2009[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 1 month for continued disruptive editing, POV pushing, trolling, edit-warring, BLP violations etc using multiple accounts (such as 70.62.185.149 (talk)). Please stop. You are welcome to make useful contributions after the block expires. If you believe this block is unjustified you may contest this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} below. Abecedare (talk) 02:25, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Because of continued block evasion via sock puppets, I have extended your block to indefinite. MuZemike 20:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)