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Directions, please[edit]

Can you please direct me to the procedures for requesting attention to BLP violations on an article that has PP? I thought it was included on the article's PP notice, but I can't find it. Does the admin who initiated PP accept the requests, or must it be an uninvolved admin? What are the steps required for such a request? Thank you in advance AtsmeConsult 16:04, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

The protecting admin is (and almost always must be) uninvolved. Though I'd prefer you make an edit request on the article's talk page than request changes here. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 01:14, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Ok, will do. Thank you. AtsmeConsult 13:36, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
Callanecc, have you reviewed the Griffin TP wherein I requested the BLP violations to be resolved? The same editors who created the BLP violations are disputing the changes using the same arguments they've been using, and why I had to request PP. The BLP violations are blatant, and if my interpretation of BLP policy is correct, the violations must be removed first, and the burden of proving otherwise is the responsibility of those who want the information restored. Please review the list of violations and advise. AtsmeConsult 16:15, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Callanecc, the PP discussion at Griffin needs your attention. A non-neutral admin was summoned over to the article - see diff: [1]. I don't see how his participation can be considered NPOV, especially based on the comments that were made about Griffin. The whole article is nothing more than WP:COATRACK designed to denigrate the subject. It's really sad because it has potential to be a DYK, and possibly even a GA if GF editors were allowed to do their job. AtsmeConsult 04:52, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

I left them a message about editing through protection before I saw this. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 06:05, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. It is far more rewarding to create articles, and/or edit articles about fish. Though not disruption free, fish don't argue about policy. I had no idea when I first began editing Griffin that there was such a raging battle between proponents of orthodox medicine and CAM. It's worse than politics because it involves both!! The experience has given me more fodder to add under My Lesson Highlights at my UP. What I'll probably end-up doing before it's over is simply adding a link to WP:CGTW, and be done with it. In the interim, I will continue to remain fixed to "strict adherence" at the BLP. AtsmeConsult 12:51, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Callanecc, your attention is needed at Griffin. AtsmeConsult 01:33, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your wise and patient words of advice. Wishing you a Happy Holiday Season, and a prosperous 2015 with a noticeably reduced amount of childish disruptions, except for those we look forward to from our kids and grandkids. AtsmeConsult 17:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Edit war on Metropolitan (1990 film)[edit]

It has come to my attention that you are considering disciplinary action against user FelixRosch for edit-warring the Sigmund Freud page. I would like to draw your attention to this user's similar behavior on the article Metropolitan (1990 film), where the user has repeatedly deleted a coherent, concise film summary to replace it with his own, poorly written, incomplete summary. The user insists that any changes to his plot summary must first "reach consensus" on talk page, despite the user's not engaging in any actual discussion and failure to offer any criticism of the new summary beyond his not having been consulted on it. (talk) 16:35, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

DP arbitration[edit]

Hi. I know you're busy, hell, everyone's busy this time of year, but the DP case final decision page doesn't have that template box at the bottom of the page, whatever it's called, yet, and at least a few of the arbs have voted to close. It might make it easier to see what the current status is if the template thingy were added and the current status of the votes indicated. Maybe. John Carter (talk) 23:45, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

We usually only use the implementation notes template on long or complicated cases. The notes as they stand give an idea of what's passing and not passing. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 23:47, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
Ok, you know that better than me. Thanks for the quick response. And for subjecting yourself to having to read a lot of the, um, commentary, on a lot of the ArbCom pages. I have trouble seeing how arbitrators put up with it, and honestly, you have to so far as I can tell read the same mountains of dreck that they have to. Thanks. :) John Carter (talk) 23:50, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Admin[edit]

Dear Admin,i have a question regarding something.Alhanuty (talk) 03:33, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Can't unless you tell me...? Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 06:48, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Bonkers (TV series)[edit]

Extend PC time? --George Ho (talk) 07:54, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) No edits for more than a month. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 07:57, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Agree, no need for protection to be extended. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 08:28, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

What is trolling?[edit]

Please familiarise yourself with meta:What is a troll?; particularly the section on "misuse of process". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:25, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

It's not misuse of process as was discussed on the AE request, it was a good faith interpretation of the restriction as it is written. Your insistence on casting aspersions and the personal attack is concerning. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 09:27, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Poppycock. The editor concerned had already been advised that similar attempts to stiffle debate had been rejected at WP:AE; his case was full of false and dishonest claims, and the comment was on the edit, not the editor. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
(I am known for my seemingly unrelated comments.) On the Main page now Mit Fried und Freud, translating to "in peace and joy", - we could use a bit more of peace, for more joy. I tried to be short on the clarification page and didn't mention another bold edit to a project page of a project where the user is not a member. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:36, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
I like the edit summary What is trolling?: peace and joy. :) Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 13:05, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Kafka ("The article wasn't the first to connect arbitration results to Kafka.") comes to mind a lot, I agree ;) - (Actually: I don't know what a troll is, but can probably live without knowing.) - I usually look for the surroundings before repeating Precious, but not today ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

DS alert reverted as vandalism[edit]

Can you take a look at this? [2]. He left a sarcastic message at a blocked user's page who was clearly backing off from the actions that got him blocked [3]. Without commenting on the dispute or topic, I left FIM a notification with specific care not to turn it into this and I got a template in return [4]. I left another civil message to clarify [5] and I get the edit summary of "good bye editwarrior" and another sarcastic message with a clear WP:COMPETENCE issue in understanding the alert [6]. --lTopGunl (talk) 14:04, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

I've left them a message, I strongly suggest that you steer clear of them. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 14:20, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Sure. Had no plans to engage someone giving tit for tat replies rather than the matter raised (never known him before). Not going to respond to his recent... --lTopGunl (talk) 14:29, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

User talk:Noegarciaa[edit]

Callan, I would have indeffed the account as a sock. Any reason why you didn't?--Bbb23 (talk) 15:32, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Didn't notice the other account, indef'd now. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 23:50, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Good, thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:55, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Opinion needed here[edit]

Hi Callanec, since you were the closing admin in TopGuns ARE, I would like to request your feedback here: Talk:Jammu and Kashmir#Indicscripts. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:58, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

About what? Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:00, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
The policy as well as TopGun's decision to disregard it. -_Rsrikanth05 (talk) 19:00, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with the area of my ban and I had long clarified this with many uninvolved editors and admins (infact was uninvolved myself on this matter at that time). Now that I am being accused of starting this on my talkpage, 1) I was not the one who started the discussion, 2) I am in complete right to disregard a consensus that covers only the activities of a single wikiproject while applying it to topics that are covered by many, 3) Urdu is not an Indic script, it's Persio-Arabic 4) Since I am not even reverting and to avoid the same editors, I've not even responded on the talkpage since the AE close, it is block shopping to ask admin opinion on it. --lTopGunl (talk) 04:58, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
I know it has nothing to do with your ban. I'm merely asking for opinion. I am fairly correct in assuming that I can ask for such an opinion. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Without more information about exactly what the issues you think there are (with evidence) there doesn't seem to be a lot to gain from my involvement, unless you feel that the issue and discussion could benefit from admin eyes? Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 12:12, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Alright then in that case, I'll end this here. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 12:14, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Penitent requests unblock[edit]

BerryTime (talk · contribs) is asking to be unblocked. Background at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Loganrobert96/Archive. He seems penitent, and has stayed away (he says) for five months, which is getting on towards the usual STANDARDOFFER. I am inclined to unblock, but you know the background better. JohnCD (talk) 22:22, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Page protection[edit]

It looks like there is persistent edit warring again since the merge, after the consensus here[7]. I think indefinite semi protection would be better at this situation. The edit warring IP, regardless of being Nangparbat's sock or not, is clearly disruptive. OccultZone (TalkContributionsLog) 00:14, 21 December 2014 (UTC)


You missed this comment by an SPA.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:41, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

In a related inquiry, why haven't the case pages been semi-protected to avoid these kinds of intrusions? The "previously involved IP" editor has disappeared already.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:45, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't think there has been enough (on the workshop page at least) to warrant it. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:52, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Another tangent, do you would it be useful to point out the events that happened at Eggslut (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) in the workshop?—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 00:56, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Why? Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 02:11, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Because an IP editor disrupted the article because I had edited it and the IP's only other contributions on Wikipedia concern the greater Gamergate topic.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 10:32, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't think you need to add it, it's very unlikely that the Committee will sanction an IP. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 10:40, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
Well I thoughtit would be a useful example of showing harassment and disruption directed at established editors rather than trying to sanction a single user of an IP. So much is happening that would fit into the evidence now that it's been closed.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 10:48, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
My opinion is that it might have been worth it when the evidence was open, but now the case is firmly in the workshop proposal stage so it's best to focus on that (hence why the evidence page was protected). Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 11:31, 22 December 2014 (UTC)


Hey, would you mind fixing an error? This section of my evidence has a bare url in the second bullet point, but it belongs in the third bullet point at the beginning.--The Devil's Advocate tlk. cntrb. 09:41, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 09:43, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

A small cup of coffee.JPG Thank you for clearing the backlog at Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPagexaosflux Talk 13:32, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Yet another sock[edit]

Hello there, Callanecc. Regarding Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jajadelera, there's another sock around that created EuroLines. I've marked the article for speedy deletion, but not added the new sock JDSeriesNew1 (talk · contribs) to the sockpuppet investigation page because you already marked the current case as closed.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:13, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I've blocked the account and deleted the article. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 14:20, 22 December 2014 (UTC)


"... they oppose by default" [8]. I did not know that. I would have guessed default would have been abstain, but if there's a pop-quiz later, now I'll know. :) — Ched :  ?  20:53, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Yep, that's the standard pretty much with all arbitration everything, a majority of all active (marked on main list of if they are inactive on that decision by choice) arbs is needed (hence if they don't vote it's the same as opposing). The only two exceptions are accepting a case and formally closing a case where either a majority or four more supports than opposes is needed. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 23:59, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

Off topic discussion, DP case[edit]

[9], obviously not relevant to the case. NE Ent 23:50, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

I disagree I think the question the IP asked passed the relevancy test and asking the IP that question passes the relevancy test. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 00:03, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

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Speaking as the admin who imposed the original sanctions, I have no particular objection to ArmyLine's participation in the arbitration discussion. The sanctions were imposed under BLP, since the GG sanctions were so new, and we were working it out as we went. Other admins have more explicitly extended the sanctions into the formal GG regime. Acroterion (talk) 18:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to make that exemption to the TBAN, but from what I gather they've decided to steer clear of the case now anyway. Callanecc (talkcontribslogs) 02:47, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

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