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The octopus ... seeks its prey by so changing its colour as to render it like the colour of the stones adjacent to it; it does so also when alarmed. — Aristotle

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13 August 2014

Finding an illustration of an average face for the Koinophilia article[edit]

I have put my latest comments on the koinophilia talk page. Basically I have been unable to contact the person who I think has the perfect illustration to ask whether they would be willing to upload the image on their website on to the Wikimedia Commons Oggmus (talk) 13:40, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Many thanks. I expect someone will donate a suitable image soon. Well done for trying. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:29, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Asking[edit]

What is "ce" means? i saw it when you edited the Oceanography article in the editing description. I'm an indonesian user aiming at improving the same article in indonesian language. So, I visited the Oceanography article a lot. Could you tell me what's that means?

Thnaks a lot. Dreamfayth (talk) 05:25, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

(a passing page-stalker!) Usually "ce" is used on the wiki as shorthand for copyediting - improving the flow and readability of the text, without changing its meaning. Hchc2009 (talk) 16:50, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

Classification of rodents[edit]

@LittleJerry: Do you or LittleJerry want to do a few paragraphs on the history of rodent classification or shall I? I have just received access to JSTOR which is going to be very useful in general, and this article should be useful in this instance. I don't want to duplicate effort as happened yesterday when I edit conflicted with you on the "Uses" section. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:13, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

@Cwmhiraeth: Edit conflicts are unavoidable given the system, and while a bit of a pain they are rarely harmful (only during heated discussions, maybe). But I think we needn't overlap: why don't we collaborate? How say you draft your two/a few paragraphs and then ask me to tweak them? (BTW, Wood 1955 is obviously usable only to indicate how things were seen back in 1955, which I'm sure is what you are intending. I have both JSTOR and Questia.) Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:20, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Edit conflicts matter less if one saves frequently. I tend to save infrequently and in this case wrote a paragraph on use of pelts and made several other changes. I did not expect anyone else to be editing the article at 6am and in the event, rescued the paragraph and abandoned the other changes. I will proceed as you suggest on historic classification. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:45, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Ah, travel insomnia in my case. Nice to be home and safe, even if it is pouring with rain. Looking forward to seeing your draft. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:49, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
You can find my effort here. The last reference is to Mammal Species of the World which is already cited in the article. Do what you like with it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 13:42, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: Not sure I have much to say, other than that Tullborg either needs a full name or a bluelink, and that Wood 1955 seems to get pretty short shrift! Maybe he didn't say much worth recording. I suggest we go with it and see how it is received. We can always add a bit more later. Oh, and the Simplicidentata seems to have had shifts of meaning; I doubt it was understood as a clade for its first century of usage. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:46, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Could anybody post this image to Wikicommons? My computer doesn't seem to be able to. I think the image looks better than the current mole rat one in the article. LittleJerry (talk) 18:00, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:47, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. The last remaining task for now is creating a cladogram of rodent groups. I found this article. Reid has offered to do it but I'll let you guys decide. LittleJerry (talk) 19:32, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
He's welcome if he feels like it, probably he has a tool for the job. I've always done it by hand, pretty tedious. Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:36, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
Could you do the last task? Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 17:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
  • @LittleJerry: Thank you both for your cooperation in bringing Rodent to GA. I had a pleasant morning doing the thing I like doing best on Wikipedia (in this case expanding Silky pocket mouse) but propose to return to the fray and nominate Rodent at FAC. Are you and LittleJerry happy to go ahead jointly with me? Should we invite DrChrissy to join us? Although not as enjoyable as article creation/expansion, I will be happy to do the bulk of the work involved in responding to comments. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:37, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Yes, why not. And we should surely get DrChrissy to join in. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:44, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Okay but I don't know how much time I'll have when Fall comes. LittleJerry (talk) 12:52, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
I'm not sure when "fall" starts but in any event, I have now nominated the article on the selfish premise that the timing suits me. I invited DrChrissy to join us but he declined. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:28, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
September 21st? Anyway, I'll help as I can. I'm on the road for a couple of weeks but should be able to pop in at least briefly most days. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:54, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
It sounds as if you won't be around much in the next couple of weeks. It has been suggested at FAC that there should be one or two paragraphs on "Rodents in popular culture". I'll have a go at it in my userspace but it is very much more your kind of topic than mine. Please add to/amend what I write if you have the opportunity. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:18, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'm away. I've given you a thing I wrote a while back on mice/rats; it's hard I think to find anything much else (if Brer Rabbit unfortunately no longer counts: though when he was created I think rabbits were considered rodents...). I expect there are S. American tales of Capybaras and Guinea Pigs but I don't know them. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:48, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Please see the FA talk pages. LittleJerry (talk) 21:52, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
Ok, seen. I've no idea whether we should or not, though personally I'd not be inclined to argue; I have little opinion either way, but certainly can't see why the request should be denied: it's not meaningless, though it may be hard to fulfil. Chiswick Chap (talk) 21:59, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
I've blended the bit I wrote with what you wrote and have added the result to the article under the heading "In popular culture". Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Historia Plantarum (Theophrastus)[edit]

The article Historia Plantarum (Theophrastus) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Historia Plantarum (Theophrastus) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Erachima -- Erachima (talk) 01:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Making of the English Landscape[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The Making of the English Landscape you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Erachima -- Erachima (talk) 22:02, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Making of the English Landscape[edit]

The article The Making of the English Landscape you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:The Making of the English Landscape for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Erachima -- Erachima (talk) 04:01, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Making of the English Landscape[edit]

The article The Making of the English Landscape you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:The Making of the English Landscape for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Erachima -- Erachima (talk) 08:22, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I am now reading Bird migration and remembering why I generally don't review articles about things which weren't made by humans. --erachima talk 08:33, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, it's very different. It's a major topic and a pretty good coverage by several editors; I swept up a lot of loose ends. Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
FWIW, I'd probably pass it on writing quality. As to the other portions, didn't even look. --erachima talk 12:48, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
 :) Glad to have met you. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:56, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Rodent[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 08:52, 15 August 2014 (UTC)