User talk:Chris the speller

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"The non-word 'leafily'"[edit]


A non-word defined in Wiktionary, apparently. Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:59, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap: You are aware that Wiktionary, far from being an authority on the language, is a place where a 6-year-old kid can add anything he makes up, right? No other dictionary has "leafily", and that should give you pause. The word appears in Wikipedia only in two articles about camouflage; it's pretty much understandable, but awkward, and it can be easily avoided. Chris the speller yack 13:23, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, that's true. Interesting that you've searched the whole encyclopedia for the term... we are in danger of trying too hard on this trivial matter. I imagine that your point is that 'leafily' is rather too flowery as language and thus unencyclopedic, with which I'd agree.

I do note, however, that "leafily camouflaged" (without the hyphen) looks and sounds extremely awkward to my eyes and ears as a native speaker of English; I imagine it did so to you as well, which may perhaps explain why you felt like replacing it with the current circumlocution. In general I'm in favour of avoiding circum-whatevers, and of following native feelings about language beyond the dictionary (I note that all guides to spelling and punctuation ultimately rely on actual practice, i.e. what people - native speakers - commonly write). In this case you are right, the use of short simple words, even using many where I'd habitually use one, is probably best. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:32, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Cool. Chris the speller yack 13:37, 21 June 2014 (UTC)

Muslim conquests[edit]

Hey, Chris, I was wondering whether you could possibly offer your input on the recent changes - and reverts of those changes - on the Muslim conquests article. If possible, I would also much appreciate it if you might also offer some advice concerning an escalating dispute involving myself and another editor. Thank you very much for your time. Torontas (talk) 22:46, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm better at spelling and punctuation than I am at dispute resolution and that aspect of history. The differences should be discussed and resolved on the article's talk page. You should take part in that discussion, not drag innocent bystanders into it. Chris the speller yack 03:11, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

Soliciting comment...[edit]

Hi! Would you care to review my FA nomination for the article Of Human Feelings? The article is about a jazz album by Ornette Coleman, and the criteria for FA articles is at WP:FACR. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Cheers! Dan56 (talk) 10:02, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. I didn't find any need for correction. Chris the speller yack 14:50, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

Born -> Borne[edit]

Thanks. As you have noticed, that is a bland spot of mine. Regards, Acad Ronin (talk) 14:07, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

1) In the above read blind, not bland. :-) 2) Thanks for the clarification re born and borne. Makes me feel better. I don't have a dog in the fight, but suspect that you are in an uphill battle, to mix metaphors. Acad Ronin (talk) 23:20, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Beware of the hyphen[edit]

May I beg advice? I have (in a sandbox) just written, "The Prix brought a well subsidised three year period of study..." And the question before me is how many hyphens to put in. I want to hyphenate "well subsidised" and "three year": would I be right? Grateful for your wisdom, as always. Best wishes. (PS. Is there really no reciprocal help I can ever offer in return for your numerous kindnesses?) Tim riley talk 14:10, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Right, the two hyphens are required for the two compound modifiers. You don't need to reciprocate the help; just keep telling me I'm wise and kind. Happy editing! Chris the speller yack 15:21, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I will, because you are! Thank you, as ever, Tim riley talk 15:22, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, no – not him again![edit]

I fear so! May I presume on your kindness and eagle eye to give Jules Massenet the once-over? I have him up for PR, with a view to FAC, and your expert touch would help give him a fair wind. Tim riley talk 17:18, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Yet again, thank you, sir! ("Wordly wise", forsooth!) Tim riley talk 18:06, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Copy-edit request[edit]

Hi Chris, I was wondering if I might bother you with a request for a copy-edit of Hans Aasnæs? It seems to need work before the article can qualify as B-class. Could you find the time to have a look? Cheers. Manxruler (talk) 10:47, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done. Chris the speller yack 17:02, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
  • Thanks. As always, it is highly appreciated. Manxruler (talk) 17:07, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Laureate --> laureate[edit]

I notice that the Nobel Prize website ( capitalizes Laureate on the webpage, so I've reverted that change on Doris Lessing. Is there a reason for keeping it lower case? Just checking. Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 15:15, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

@Aristophanes68: No offense to the Swedes, but they read and write Swedish better than they do English. It is Wikipedia's style not to capitalize except at the beginning of a sentence, and proper names. The word laureate is not a proper noun (check any good dictionary), any more than the word salesman, as in "Fred Smirkle is a Chevrolet salesman", just because it follows another proper name. This is different from the handling of Nobel Prize, where "Prize" is part of the proper name. In WP:JOBTITLES it says not to capitalize king ("Louis XVI was the French king"), so laureate shouldn't get better treatment than that. MOS:CAPS says "Pronouns for deities and figures of veneration are not capitalized, even if capitalized in a religion's scriptures", so I don't think we need to take the Nobel Committee's capitalization as gospel. See all the WP articles that begin with "List of Nobel laureates ...". Chris the speller yack 18:20, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I had noticed that some US universities also capitalize the L, but others don't. Apologies for the revert. Aristophanes68 (talk) 19:10, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for all you do, especially correcting hyphens. I've seen the results of much of your work. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:08, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

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Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:08, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


I noted your comment at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). I got so fed up with the old search breaking down, that I switched to the Beta version in early June.
Inevitably, there are aspects I didn't initially like, and I had to check and re-benchmark all 300 of my standard misspelling searches, but there are some things I see as benefits:-

  • Corrected misspellings disappear from the search, and new misspellings are added to the search, within 10-20 seconds of completion of the "save".
  • It ignores (most) misspellings in URLs
  • It allows searches within templates

Others report problems, depending what they have been used to searching for - see this talk page
My only real gripe is that searches including omits seem unpredictable; sometimes they work, and sometimes they don't
Just might be worth giving it a try - Arjayay (talk) 17:47, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

@Arjayay: I have used CirrusSearch quite a bit, and started well before your bailing out in June. The new search has several new and useful features. One of the best is "phrase search and proximity", where you can search for two words in proximity to each other. For example, searching for "ordinance dropped"~7 will return articles where the two words are separated by 7 or fewer intervening words, so cases where "ordnance" was meant can be found, such as "the ordinance had to be dropped before attempting to land". The searching within templates can be useful, but it can also drive you crazy, leaving dozens or hundreds of useless hits even after fixing the template. But CirrusSearch is completely blind to hyphens (see topic "Can't find hyphenated forms" on the talk page you mentioned), and I do a lot of hyphen fixing – well, I used to before they broke the indexing and started pushing CirrusSearch. All the best. Chris the speller yack 00:42, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Chris, could you step in and give us your opinion please?[edit]

This guy red-pen and I have been going round and round in an edit war on the A Course In Miracles page. Could you kindly give us your view of our "discussion" if you have the desire or time? I know this is probably drudgery to you, but a fresh perspective would be most appreciated if you could. You can see our discussions at: the Talk Page. Thaks again, Scott P. (talk) 04:50, 28 September 2014 (UTC)