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Nomination of Hedyot for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Hedyot is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hedyot until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Gsingh (talk) 06:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Coin945, as you've created a lot of these "definition only" and "cut and paste" articles, I'd suggest reading the essay User:Uncle G/Cargo cult encyclopaedia article writing. It advises against your style of article creation. Fences&Windows 23:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Also, your pattern of gathering quotes about words and phrases fits exactly with what Wiktionary welcomes. You may enjoy creating or expanding their dictionary entries that define words and phrases. See their community portal for how to start. Be warned though, they're very strict on formatting requirements and you need to properly attest that the word is used and defined as you've written using durably archived sources, e.g. books and newspapers. Fences&Windows 23:06, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

links to dab pages[edit]

You removed a message with edit summary "this is false. those links are not to disambiguation pages at all..... weird....", but all the four links listed were to dab pages. Have another look at the notification. PamD 12:13, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Page moves[edit]

I think your page moves around "international relations" may be unhelpful. Why move Neorealism (international relations) to Neorealism in international relations? They do not mean the same thing. The former is about an international relations concept called neorealism, as distinct from concepts in other disciplines which use the same name. The latter is about a more general topoic called "neorealism", as used or applied within international relations (would be appropriate for "Foreign language skills in international relations" perhaps). The Postcolonialism and international relations theory is just that: an article about theory. You have renamed it Postcolonialism in international relations which does not seem to be the same thing. Please do not rename (move) articles unless you have a good reason and a good understanding of the subject matter involved. I've mentioned this at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_International_relations#Articles_being_renamed_from_.22X_.28international_relations.29.22_to_.22X_in_international_relations.22_and_more, to get a more expert view. PamD 12:35, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Bimoment for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Bimoment is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bimoment (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Nomination of Cultural probe for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cultural probe is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cultural probe (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Doctor blade[edit]

I came across this while stub-sorting. Please remember to give a context so that someone coming across the article by hitting the "random article" is shown what it's about. You mentioned in the edit summary that the blade is mentioned in the Rotogravure article: it makes sense to include both a mention of that process as context and a link to the article. I've done that now.

Please also remember that the references ought to include enough information for someone to be able to see where the information has come from without following the link - either because they are looking at a printout of the article, or because the web link isn't working either temporarily or permanently. So please use a few more fields of the {{cite web}} template. Thanks. PamD 09:00, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Deletion notifications[edit]

Hi,

You recently received a message about either "Articles for Deletion" or "Proposed Deletion" of an article you created. I'd like to ask you a few quick questions, so that we can try to improve those notices in a WikiProject I work with:

  1. Was the message helpful? Were the instructions clear and easy to follow?
  2. If not, how do you think the message could be improved?
  3. What do you think about the deletion process in general? Do you understand how to contest a deletion?

Feel free to answer here or send me your response by email (swalling@wikimedia.org). I won't quote you or link your answers to your username if you don't feel comfortable with that. Your feedback is incredibly useful for improving the content of deletion notifications, so please take a minute to think about and answer these questions.

Thank you! Steven Walling (WMF) • talk 23:56, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 1 hour rule[edit]

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The article 1 hour rule has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Examples on Eggcorn[edit]

Hello Coin945. You recently added an example to the page Eggcorn and marked the edit as minor. Please remember to mark your edits as "minor" only if they truly are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes, or rearrangement of text without modification of content.

Editors at Eggcorn (including me) prefer that examples be discussed at Talk:Eggcorn#Debate / defend / reject / submit examples here before they are added to the article. Your comments are welcome there. Happy editing, Cnilep (talk) 06:11, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Atheocracy for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Atheocracy is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Atheocracy (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

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Proposal at Village Pump[edit]

I have started a discussion with a vote that you may or may not be interested in. Since you participated in a discussion yesterday which was similar, I am sending you this notice:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Proposal_for_message_for_new_editors_creating_new_article. Mugginsx (talk) 17:07, 28 March 2012 (UTC)


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Article of the Month[edit]

I proposed something yonks ago about an Article of the Month and a Core Article of the Month contest with a $500 Amazon vouchers prize for best article. I thought it would be a great way to lure in new contributors as well as get regulars such as myself to try that bit harder. Heard nothing back, and a friend of mind personally asked the foundation about it in California. Its disappointing that they don't see the potential in it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

.....yeah, I'm starting to see just how stubborn the community is (:P). When any system has come along this far, the damn bureaucracy of it all is naturally going to make people resistant to big changes. Didn't realise how much opposition there would be to the proposal. Whatever happened to "give it a shot and see if it works" lol? I love your idea. Any chance you would repitch it?--Coin945 (talk) 22:15, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
Can't remember where it is, but there's this page (you probably already know about it) where you can put up monetary arrangements for people who complete a task you lay for them. You could get the Wiki Foundation to add this proposal there on a monthly basis, and then award prizes accordingly. Hmmm.. I wonder how you'd pick the best article of the week... I can imagine you'd get a lot of flack from the people who didn't win...--Coin945 (talk) 22:22, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

History of the Israel national football team[edit]

Hi. In case it's no longer on your watch list, this is just to let you know that I've reopened the discussion at Talk:Israel national football team#Redirect from History of the Israel national football team. I feel the destiny of the History article needs to be decided one way or another. (I'm sending this to all three people who took part in last year's discussion). Best regards, --Stfg (talk) 13:45, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Pen clicking for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pen clicking is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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The pen clicking article looks to be a fine piece of work. Please accept this quill pen in recognition but don't try to click it. Warden (talk) 15:43, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Car sex[edit]

If you are so much convinced about its notability, could you please expand it a more bit and add some more sources? If more quality sources are added, I'll withdraw the nom. --SupernovaExplosion Talk 02:03, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Boy.C3.A9_Lafayette_De_Mente. --SupernovaExplosion Talk 10:39, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

Your Smash song articles[edit]

As apparently you are not willing to read WP:NSONG I will post the important stuff here for you:

  • Most songs do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist who prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been independently released as a recording by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable. Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article;

I chose to redirect per this guideline rather than nominate for deletion. You state in an edit summary "The article as it stands should be proof to you that the song is notable", what because there's loads of text? Your coverage amounts to blogs and fleeting mentions, I hardly think TV is my pacifier or Bitch stole my remote pass the test of reliable sources. So either I redirect them (again) to the relevant episodes or I nominate them for deletion. Which do you prefer? CaptainScreebo Parley! 13:56, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

AFD, please. Bring it on. :)--Coin945 (talk) 15:25, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
(that was a joke btw, not trying to be a pretentious a**hole or anything :P). Look, the thing is, these songs have been referenced in many top reviews that review the episodes as a whole but also write lots of stuff about the individual songs. Yes, the articles that I created today didn't have as much time invested into them to get the source juices flowing to full power, than those I created yesterday, but the few sources (at least) that I've stuffed into each article show that each song has been written about a lot (Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article). Those blogs of which you speak were only in a couple of the articles, and yet you redirected the entire bunch...... why, I don't know. I firmly believe that each song deserves a place in Wikipedia, and I do honestly believe that your rash reverts were uncalled for. I am intrigued to see what the wider community say, and as the creator of the articles, I sincerely hope you are crushed like a bug! :D (once again, a harmless joke).--Coin945 (talk) 15:25, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
While I appreciate your enthusiasm, I think you are misguided when you say "have been referenced in many top reviews", no they haven't, I have looked through them and there is hardly anything that qualifies as a reliable secondary source, and on the few occasions that i found one, there was only the fleetingest of mentions of the said song. You quote "Notability aside, etc.", this means that a) the song must meet the notability requirements set out above and b) needs to be covered in depth by reliable third-party sources. CaptainScreebo Parley! 16:02, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I personally find that hard to believe. Whilst sourcing my articles, I came across some very well respected names - A.V Club, Broadwayworld.com, Chicago Tribute, Los Angeles Times, PopCrush, TVLine, EW.com etc. Obviously the most amount of sources are for Let Me Be Your Star, but that is also due to the fact that I made that article first so invested the most amount of time into it. As I went along, I invested less and less time into each on because I was raring to make the next one. Just because the sources aren't in the article, it doesn't mean they don't exist. I simply made a template - a stub - that could then be added to afterwards. My articles are no finished product, and you should not be judging them as such. I'm sure the sources are out there, and that they just have to be found. You redirecting the articles after barely 2 days is like... WHAT?!! To put it bluntly and simply, I think your actions were wrong. As it is 1:00am over here in Perth and I'm really tired right now, I won't take any more action now but tomorrow if you haven't reverted your own redirects and/or AFD'ed the articles, then I will unredirect them myself because during all this chatter, Smash fans may very well've worked on he articles to being them up to code. With all the articles being in tumbolia, no progress will be done on the articles at all. As a side note, obviously the whole "I've put a lot of effort into these articles so keep them and leave me the bloody hell alone!!!" thing comes into it a bit, I must admit, but I do firmly believe that the articles have a place on Wikipedia.--Coin945 (talk) 17:17, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Comparison of General American and Received Pronunciation[edit]

I support this move, but I think we should move the other GA/RP comparison articles to "Comparison between" etcetera. Interchangeable 21:58, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh... sure! If that is more grammatically correct, then go ahead. :)--Coin945 (talk) 03:23, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
This isn't about grammar; it's about consistency. And I'm reluctant to move pages, having been the instigator of a move war a while ago. Interchangeable 17:24, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
Hmmmm.... are you sure "comparison between" is consistant? In my newly created article list of comparison articles i added all of them i could find and i hardly found any named like that. Perhaps you could direct me to some? Are you just referring to the ga/rp ones? Btw im sorry about your bad experiences.... wikipedia isnt always the nicest place to be.... it seems less and less joyous editing these days :( --Coin945 (talk) 23:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

New Wikiproject you might be interested in[edit]

Hello. I've known that in the past you have created articles from the requested articles list and I thought you might be interested in the new wikiproject that has just started: Wikipedia:WikiProject Requested articles. Perhaps you'll consider joining and lending some suggestions. All the best, France3470 (talk)

Thankuou very much for considering me in this endevour. ;D The first thing that springs to mind is my failed proposal to have the "100 articles of the week" to create , as a section on the main page - my advice was to get it up and running first, then obly re-propose until it had enough followers. Perhs we can incorporate this into the project. Im on my phone atm but ill add more details about that proposal later :) Crux of the comment: id love to join and ill see what i can do.

Zambrano family[edit]

  • I think what you've done here is a good idea, but I think you've chose poor sources for your effort. This is a site that exists solely to sell made up family crests to suckers who think they are authentic. There is nothing on that site that indicates that any legitimate research has gone into the crest design or the family name history. The crest there does not match the crest shown at the DNA site, which appears more in line with other crests I have found for this family. I'm going to withdraw the AFD -- my further research indicates that the Diccionario reference may well be more reliable than I had thought, once one realizes that it is referencing Philip I of Castile, and not Philip I of France. I think there may be an article here after all; let's see what we can find! WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 12:36, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Sound good. Sorry for being duped by that questionable source... *blush*. But as I said, I think whatsoever we do, the page will eventually become redundant and the content will just be moved into the Zambrano article anyways, so (as I said on the AFD), instead of being a list article, it becomes a prose article discussing the geo-political history of the name etc.--Coin945 (talk) 12:41, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
    • Also, what words have you been including in your search to narrow down the results? Just typing in "Zambrano" isn't very helpful at all... :/--Coin945 (talk) 12:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
    • I definitely think that the DNA site is a brilliant one, and so is that site you were talking about earlier so will have to go through that with a fine tooth comb and extract all the good info that we can from it. I found this, which essentially has all the records for people with this surname in censuses etc. I'm not sure how that information would be useful to the Wiki article just yet, but I thought I'd send you a link to it anyways.--Coin945 (talk) 13:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
      • I disagree with you about the "brilliance" of the DNA project. It is part of a large commercial site to attempt to use DNA to extend family genealogies, and is fairly commonplace. Take a look at what I've done in my userspace, at User:WikiDan61/Zambrano family and let me know if you think I've got something we can work with. By the way, the addition of the Japanese kanji equivalent of the name seems just silly. Any name, when rendered in kanji, will have a meaning that is quite unrelated to the actual meaning of the name. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:23, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
        • True. Haha I'm not even sure why I added it in in the first place. YOu're right - it's completely unencyclopedic. Are you sure about that DNA source? It seems to have some incredible useful info about the origins/history of the surname, which makes sense because they would have to have done a lot of research to allow to the project to function. It seems well-researched and very thorough....--Coin945 (talk) 14:40, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
        • What you've done with the article is awesome. I had a hard time reading that Spanish article well, so I'm very glad you could salvage some great info from it. You mentioned something about some of my sourced not being very reliable? Perhaps you can copy your article text into my article, and then help me get rid of the fluff.--Coin945 (talk) 14:45, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Spider-Man move[edit]

Hi, Coin. I understand your grammatical concern, but we don't unilaterally move pages without talk-page discussion. First of all, there is no article titled Batman in media, as you wrote in your edit summary at Spider-Man in other media. Secondly, "in other media" is standard Wikipedia phrasing that takes into account a character appearing in other media than comic books, such as film, television, books, etc. --Tenebrae (talk) 19:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm [1], you're absolutely right. It may not sound grammatically correct to me, but it appears that the rest of Wikipedia disagrees. I apologize for my action. But I must admit, that it truly makes no sense to have an article about everything Spiderman has been in except the original source material. IMHO, these types of articles should be a sort of directory for information about the various types of media a character is involved in. So, it would then have a summary of each medium, and then by clicking on the "Main Page" link at the top of the desired medium, you would then go to the correct Wiki page. That seems much better. (as a side note, I was referring to the article Batman franchise media).--Coin945 (talk) 21:22, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

List of knitting patterns[edit]

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Proposed deletion of List of knitting patterns[edit]

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Repost of Playlist (album series)[edit]

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AfD[edit]

Today's AfD log Equazcion (talk) 22:35, 25 Jun 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Aria Film Poster.jpg)[edit]

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Page move for companies list[edit]

Hi- just a FYI that I reverted your page move here because it didn't follow the established naming conventions for that type of list article. Please see the related Category:Lists of companies by country to see the pattern of naming. Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:21, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of List of criticism and critique articles for deletion[edit]

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Your contributed article, Just Do It (Niké)[edit]

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Nomination of Just Do It (Niké) for deletion[edit]

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Hatting comment on the main page[edit]

I'm not going to edit war with you over the content on Talk:Main Page; however, I suggest you self-revert. You are already engaged in an edit war (and a ridiculous one at that). If you want the tip of the day collapsed, then collapse the tip of the day, don't collapse Sun Creator's comment. Your edit is not in compliance with Wikipedia:Refactoring talk pages, specifically non-contentious cleanup since I have found it contentious. Ryan Vesey 04:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

As soon as I made that revert, I realised immediately that i didn't want an edit war either. Neither do I wnt to be disruptive or a vandal. I merely did what I thought I was right to do under the circumstances. I did not know I was going against any policy, and I certainly didn't want to engage in a petty war at all. Sorry for this whole debacle.--Coin945 (talk) 04:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Featured articles[edit]

In addition to what I said at the village pump, in your "this has been a pet peeve for many editors for ages" define many, define "for ages" (2004 to now). I see many more editors not concerned, all those hundreds who don't speak up there, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. You are right. That is based on the supports the discussion has gotten so far. But there are many more opposes. I do not mean to start a fight, and I do not wish to start a heated argument with you. No, I do not have the facts and figures in my possession, and that was indeed a hyperbolous statement based on what I had observed in the discussion at Villagepump:Proposals. As I have said in my revised opening statement, I am not trying to be that guy who doesn't know what he's talking about who's trying to come in and completely change the way the featured article people to their thing. I was just trying to start a discussion on a topic that I don't think has been started before. If the discussion closes in favour of the opposes, so be it.--Coin945 (talk) 13:48, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Fair. I try to live here in peace and remember only one "heated argument" about the name of Beethoven's 14th piano sonata. It ended with finding out that the one who started it all did not understand the concept of redirect and pipe link. If you want to call the articles a different name, you can always create redirects and piped links. I personally have no time for the effort of renaming while the true problem is how the TFAs are selected, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Amphidiscosa[edit]

Could you do the following to fix up Amphidiscosa please?

  1. Remove the answer reference, it is not reliable.
  2. Cite the authority
  3. Remove the quoted sentences and write them in your own words.
  4. Add the appropriate WikiProject Banner to the talk page. The article is of low importance and a stub. A photo is needed. "|importance=low|class=stub|photo-needed=yes"

Thank you so much! -- Cheers, Riley Huntley talk 02:00, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

VPP revert[edit]

Sorry, I was trying to revert the edit of DeltaQuad's comment by that IP. I unintentionally ended up deleting other comments. I should refresh my watchlist more.--Jasper Deng (talk) 02:34, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

No harm done :) --Coin945 (talk) 02:40, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

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One million and a half stars for you![edit]

Hiya, Coin, some addition you've made to the HH page!! Just what it was lacking: a bit of background information and the connection between the book series and the TV show. I've added some bits and bobs here and there (especially in the Critical response), tough nowt really significant, as I focused on the proofreading thingy and the writing style: the Episodes section's a bit of a cock-up – oooooops, hope you don't mind my swearing like trooper –, a sloppy copy'n'paste from the the British Comedy Guide site or summat like that, what you reckon? Well, this is all for now. Glad to have run into you in these virtual neck of the virtual woods – the talk page of the article is creepily dead. Made me feel all alone. Best, --Cocolacoste (talk) 02:51, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey Cocolacoste. It's very nice to meet you! I'm very glad that you have the same passion with Horrible Histories as I do. I've loved them forever. I used to read the books and all of HH's spinoff series (Horrible Geography/Horribly Famous/Murderous Maths/The Knowledge etc.) all the time, and still do! I loved the animated series, and have now fallen head over heels with the new live-action one. I worked really hard on the article on the book series for a while ago, but haven't really been into editing these articles until today! Yeah. I totally agree - its just what the article's been lacking... and guess what? The information I've added is all from 1 source - a YouTube clip that is a Horrible Histories Masterclass - pretty much a guy sitting down to chat with 4 of the cast and crew for an hour. Once I'm done with this clip, I may even get onto adding information from other series. However, I really would like to start editing another of my favourite 90's series - the Carmen Sandiego franchise, so I can't promise anything *blush* :D. I've seen your edits, and I have to say, great job man! You've done an awesome job tidying this (as you say) cock-up of an article.. haha and I don't mind the swearing one bit. When I first saw the state of it, it scared me to death. I didn't even know where to begin. I suck and editing tables so I just kinda left it haha. Yeah.. a lot of sound[ed] really promotional... until you fixed it all up, that is. Thanks again! Yeah its great to meet you... Wikipedia can be a very lonely place. But don't let it get you down haha. Now that we've found each other, we can work together, and be THE BEST WIKI-DUO EVAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! ;D--Coin945 (talk) 15:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
(P.S. asl = male, 18, Australia)--Coin945 (talk) 15:21, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Me too!! I really dig HH, so fantastically written and acted!! Oddly enough, I discovered it only last year, when a friend recommend it to me, but have been DEVOURING each episode ever since.
Yeah, I saw that YTube clip a while ago. There's also this one: http://www.bfi.org.uk/live/video/920, have a squint at it if you feel like it.
Thanks ever so much for your kind comments on my edits, however there are still lotsa things to be done.
Ramdom – and p'haps wrong – remarks about your additions: I'd remove the "Characters and Costuming" subsection as they're a tad irrelevant and seem written from a fan's point of view. Would keep this paragraph, though ("The makeup artists have properly researched and historically accurate picture of people from the various eras covered on the show. Ros Little, the costume designer, is "obsessive about the detail of the costumes". Sometimes the production team who are not in the historical side of the program say "it's fine" despite minor anachronisms. Farbeby argues that having non-historical costuming actually helps characterisation by allowing the characters to naturally look silly, as opposed to in a serious period piece. The costume designers and makeup artists work together closely with the historical consultants"), and put it into the Production section. What you reckon? Plus, there are a few slip-ups (typos and shit), will get round into subediting it asap – Obsessive, moi? Naaah.
One last thing: in my last edit (before yours) I cut this out (Ben Willbond explained that "you have to be good" to do this sort of green screen acting) 'cause I think B. Willbond is just taking the piss outta the die-hard "Method" actors, as they do in many of the Behind the scenes bits (like the Dance Masterclass one, or the one when M. Baynton interviews himself). Correct me if I'm wrong, please, and I'll fix it.
Congratuverylations to the new Wiki duo!!! By the way, I'm a woman and live in the arse end of nowhere (aka Argentina)

PS, Will add your talk page to my watch list so that I can see your replies –I came across this one quite by chance. --Cocolacoste (talk) 00:48, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

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Your last edit summary: "Gotcha. So I need to delete this page first, and then move the other page here, Well I guess I need to blank it and wait for someone with the authority to delete it... :)" I've just told you what you need to do. You need to list the page on WP:RM. And you must not blank a page, regardless of reason. — Smjg (talk) 10:17, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
I don't really see why.... the move is not controversial at all, and is in fact me rectifying a mistake that I made. Why waste people's valuable time at that page when the answer is staring us both right in the face? I'm sorry, but I honestly think you have a bit too much dependency on bureaucracy, when in this case simple common sense will do.--Coin945 (talk) 10:33, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
I am not a bureaucrat. Just like most of the people who leave messages on your talk page, I am just an ordinary WP editor trying to maintain the wiki's integrity. Moreover, most WP rules have reasons for them. As for the ones of relevance here, just so that you know for the future:
  • Page histories are designed to show the evolution of an article over time, which is necessary for various purposes. If an article is moved to a different title, it is still in principle the same article, and so the page history needs to move with it. Using the page move facility achieves this; cutting and pasting the content into another article breaks it.
  • If you blank a page, then sooner or later somebody will come to the blank page and wonder what on earth is going on, or assume that the site is down.
But policies aside, blanking a page does nothing to speed up the process of getting another page moved into its place, since an admin will have to delete it anyway. If anything, it probably slows it down, as admins will have to work out what the intention is, and other users will likely revert the blanking as vandalism in the interim. On the other hand, either listing the page at WP:RM, or tagging the destination page with {{db-move}} if it really is uncontroversial, does help to achieve what you're trying to do.
Anyway, thank you for your cooperation. — Smjg (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

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I think I used to wrong rationale.... the file in question is from flickr, and is under the creative commons license allowing us "to Share [and] to Remix" the image. I'm pretty sure all we have to do is swap rationales, although I am not sure how to do that...--Coin945 (talk) 08:25, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

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Romanian Revolution of 1989[edit]

Hi. I moved the page back to Romanian Revolution of 1989 because it's not the only Romanian Revolution - the other revolution is the Wallachian Revolution of 1848 (which is often bundled with the Moldavian Revolution of 1848 as the Romanian Revolution of 1848). I made a disambiguation page for this: Romanian Revolution (disambiguation). bogdan (talk) 18:58, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Sorry about that.... The fact that Romanian revolution redirected there really threw me haha. It made the move seem like an obvious choice. However, sometimes where you're bold you make mistakes. I'm glad it's all sorted out now.--Coin945 (talk) 19:04, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

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Your Turn![edit]

User:Coin945/The Elimination Game: WikiMedia §h₳un 9∞76 21:28, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Archiving[edit]

Thank you for adding some more TAFI's to the schedule. When you do that, please remember to archive the closed nominations on the appropriate page. For this month, it would be here. Regards, AutomaticStrikeout (TC) 02:57, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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Nomination of Jumping to conclusions for deletion[edit]

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  • As I said: Go! ☺ Uncle G (talk) 10:24, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Zambrna or Zambrano[edit]

You seem to be interested in the Zambrana(o) History. Here is my wiki on all the infromation i have gathered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Itzcoatzin/sandbox

I am currently working on getting data from Templar orders in spain.

Zambrano from Flanders; Zambrano and Brask or Zambranok. May have been killed in the French king trials of the templars

Zambrano from Italy Zambrano From south america or nueva granada.

And i am currently looking for the Zambrana family relative that formed the Zambraos that travel to flanders. Ochoa zambraos may be related to a zambrana child that had no rigth to the Lord title.


Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk)

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago (talk) 02:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Carmen Sandiego's Great Chase Through Time[edit]

Hi, Coin945, I'm beginning the copy-edit you requested to the above article at the GOCE Request page. Please feel free to contact me, or to correct or revert my changes if I'm doing something I shouldn't. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 20:25, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

I'm a bit concerned about reference 31, which is described as "Personal communication with David Saccheri on 9 November 2012". This would be original research under WP's verifiability requirements, so unless you can provide the same info from a published source, it'll have to come out. Also, you can change the problem image licenses to Fair Use; that way they can remain in the article. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:11, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello. Firstly, let me just say that I am very grateful that you have decided to copyedit the article that i requested. I appreciate that you gave it a shot, despite thinking that it needed too much work for a copyedit to be useful. The first thing that catches my attention is the amount of content that has been outright deleted. For example, about half of what was in the introductory paragraph has now been deleted (i know its only supposed to give an overview of the rest of the article, but the info itself didn't seem bad to me at all). The many paragraphs listing members of the crew (which understandably got deleted) was not replaced with a mention of the most important figures. What is left - especially in the gameplay section - is rather hard to follow and would be confusing to a reader. As someone who invested a lot of their time and energy into getting this article up to a standard I was happy with, I would appreciate some form of justification for the choices you have made. Yes.. the pangs of personal attachment are quite prominent when seeing your edits... even thoguh I know i should remain impartial. I am just dubious as to whether your edits are in fact improvements or not.--Coin945 (talk) 13:14, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
In regard to the personal communicaiton issue, I had hit a crossroad, when I had gotten all the info I could by using free sources, and while waiting to pass various paywalls I sought contacts from the production team to find out more. Saccheri very graciously gave up his time and gave me some very interesting information that I decided to include. I saw nothing wrong with it. The transcript of the conversation can be accessed via my facebook account (i used my facebook email address). Can I not simply 'print screen' the images and upload them somewhere to prove the conversations actually took place? It is obvious that I am not lying... and it would suck bigtime if we had to get rid of true info due to a minor technicality....--Coin945 (talk) 13:14, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for replying. I appreciate that you've taken the trouble to research the game, which is commendable in itself. Yes it would be sad to lose all that work from the article. Unfortunately, on Wikipedia original research isn't a minor technicality. Wikipedia doesn't publish original research; everything must be verifiable from reliable, published sources. If you wrote an article for (say) a games magazine, and it was published, we could then use it as a source, but we can't use Facebook as a reference because anyone can publish on Facebook and there are no editorial controls. It might be suitable if Saccheri is talking about himself (which would be off-topic), but not about the game.
There are guidelines on video game articles, and please bear in mind that Wikipedia isn't a video game guide. Finally, take a look at God of War II, a video game article that has achieved GA status, for an idea of what is expected at GA.
I deleted a huge amount of text because it either provided too much detail, didn't convey any information about the game or was off-topic. FA reviewers have very high standards; they want to see tightly-written, information-rich text that conveys all the important information about the subject, that is properly referenced and is interesting, and makes readers want to continue reading the article.
I do appreciate that you're probably quite young, and are fairly new to Wikipedia. Please don't feel discouraged by my apparent hacking away at the article; I'm trying to get the best out of the text and I hope you'll see an improved article by the time I'm finished. It won't be perfect but I'll do my best with what's there. I hope you'll continue contributing to the encyclopaedia. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 19:41, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi Coin, just a note to let you know I'm still working on this article. See my edit summaries over there for more details. Cheers, and compliments of the season to you. :-) Baffle gab1978 (talk) 06:07, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Copy-edit done (though I might do some more clean-up); please feel free to contact me about any issues with the copy-edit. Good luck with your planned FA nomination. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Bongee Bear and the Kingdom of Rhythm[edit]

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notability concerns, whilst not a hoax I'm not convinced it passes WP:NFILMS as even though there's a wealth of mentions on reliable sites they're little more than either marketing guff or part of an automated index, there's no critical appraisal of it and IMDb even lacks an entry for it.

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"Anal"[edit]

If you're unsure if something is a personal attack or not, it probably is, but I recommend the real-life interaction test. If you were, say, at a store or restaurant talking to the person working there and they creased their brow suddenly and said "Why are you being so anal?" would you consider this an acceptable statement? What about in a business meeting, or to a stranger on the street? Just because this is the internet and we can't see each others' faces does not mean that these statements do not pass through the same filters of acceptable social behavior when being read. So yeah, that was an inappropriate comment, and definitely not helpful for the discussion. siafu (talk) 16:29, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

I apologise, and I am sorry that you took such offense. I used "anal" as short for anal retentiveness (in a lighthearted manner, hence the whole "excuse my french" thing) - merely a term used to describe a type of behaviour, or outlook, not meant to be hurtful at all. Perhaps you saw the word "anal" and took offense to its other meaning (in the same way that people became upset at that featured article for the South Park episode that had the word "Poo" in it, without taking context into account). I don't know. All I can say is that at that point in time, I wanted to describe the (in my view) overly strict terms and conditions you had placed on the Wikipedia misconceptions when, as had been pointed out, it seemed that the sources already in the article had not gone through such a grueling (understandably so) process. I was led to believe that you were very thorough and had a great attention to detail, which can only be commended. You are right. On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog, and while that is certainly an acceptable word in my vocabulary (and seemingly the perfect word to use in that context), it may very well get lost in translation. Again, I apologise for upsetting you, and I sincerely hope we can move past this unfortunate faux pas.... :)--Coin945 (talk) 12:09, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of awards and nominations articles[edit]

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Lists[edit]

Why do you want all your lists AFDed instead of prodded? If you say something like that on a talk page, you really should elaborate. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 02:39, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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Invitation to WikiProject Brands[edit]

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Hello, Coin945.

You are invited to join WikiProject Brands, a WikiProject and resource dedicated to improving Wikipedia's coverage of brands and brand-related topics.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 12:03, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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Working out the details at Wikipedia:Today's article for improvement[edit]

The RFC for TAFI is nearing it's conclusion, and it's time to hammer out the details over at the project's talk page. There are several details of the project that would do well with wider input and participation, such as the article nomination and selection process, the amount and type of articles displayed, the implementation on the main page and other things. I would like to invite you to comment there if you continue to be interested in TAFI's development. --NickPenguin(contribs) 02:35, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Merging Role-playing and Make believe[edit]

Do you have any particular reasons why the articles should be merged? You'll want to start a discussion on the destination article's Talk page. See Wikipedia:Merging#Proposing a merger or Help:Merging#Proposing a merger for more on completing the merge proposal. Woodroar (talk) 01:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Ahh sorry. Was so caught up in adding the templates that I forgot to give my rationale. Silly me... *facepalm*.--Coin945 (talk) 04:19, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

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Your changes to the table at TAFI - Nominations[edit]

Hello,

I just saw your recent 40-50 nominations at the tables, and your changes to the table format. And I think they're great!!! Brilliant thinking!!! :)

I am a little short on time currently and so I cant do it myself, but I am hoping you would continue the tables conversion and extend it to all the nominations at the nomination as well as Holding Areas. Once again, well done and keep it up !!! :D

And yes. You did nominate way more articles than we could currently think of handling. But once again, I think they're great. Some really excellent nominations there. (Am still reading through them to figure how many to support!)

Cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 18:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou so much for your kind words. As I said in one of the edit summaries, I did get a little carried away, and by a little I mean a lot :P. I do think that all (or at least most) or my suggestions are good ones, so fingers crossed that I didn't screw things up too majorly. I do think that due to the huge influx of nominations, the amount of time articles stay on the page before being archived should be extended. I read the discussions on the talk page, and decided to be bold and make a change that I figured would make everyone's lives a heck of a lot easier. I'm glad to see you appreciate my work. :). Sadly, because you have to click thoruhg like 3 screens to get to the daily views, it's gonna be a bit of a bitch to complete the tables, but I'll see what I can do.--Coin945 (talk) 01:27, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

TAFI[edit]

Hello Coin945: Thanks for all of your contributions to Today's article for improvement. One thing I noticed, when !voting in the table, be sure to begin entries on a new line with a "#" sign and sign them with 4 tildes in the appropriate area for the entry: #~~~~. This retains the numeric formatting in the tables. I went through the tables and corrected entries where the numeric formatting was broken. Thanks for your consideration, and happy editing! Northamerica1000(talk) 01:20, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou. I only realised I had done that after checking the edit differences just now. Sorry about that.... :/--Coin945 (talk) 01:28, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Revising the nominations process at Wikipedia:Today's article for improvement[edit]

I'm seeking wider input on a proposed redesign of the nomination process over at TAFI. The current method could benefit from some streamlining and usability tweaks. If you feel so inclined, I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter. --NickPenguin(contribs) 23:03, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Nominating at TAFI[edit]

Hello,

Per this section on the TAFI talk page, I think we have a mutual abstention from the nomination process to allow only our newer members to nominate article. May I request you to do the same, and simply keep track of the names of the articles you'll like to see here, so you can nominate them all when we find the need to do so?

Thanks and cheers, TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:21, 1 February 2013 (UTC) (TB please!)

Cheers. Well, I guess I'll move the results of my latest relapse into the talk page. :) (for the record, I didn't enpext the newbies to actually be nominating and voting. I thought they were just editing...)--Coin945 (talk) 15:40, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
(ec) Umm, what? Did you fail to see my talk page section here? TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
I read your comment above only after making the edit. Would you like me to move it to the talk page?--Coin945 (talk) 16:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Naah. Let those noms remain - Just lets not nominate any more unless absolutely necessary TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
By newbies, we mean all those other than the 6 currently involved. And I do expect at least 2-3 nominations from real newbies. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Awesome. :) Well then we'll need to make the nomination process easier, I'll need to stop nominating, and then we can have a functional and successful TAFI!--Coin945 (talk) 16:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
Yes indeed. Any ideas on how to do all that? Do comment on the talk page with your opinions on them. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

Although its usually not considered good practise, I have boldly edited your new section at Jimbo's talk page so that we might not want to be discouraging to other new members. Please feel free to revert/change anything that you feel was unjust. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:17, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Also, do you mind moving your nominations on the talk to your userspace? We are all keeping our separate lists by ourselves :) TheOriginalSoni (talk) 16:21, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh... didn't realise that would be a problem haha :). I just figured starting a list to ensourage others to put their nominations there (rather than clog up the nominations section) was a good idea. I'll certainly do it.--Coin945 (talk) 17:22, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Ideas for TAFI[edit]

Yeah that's undue weight[edit]

Massively undue weight, and it would be even more so if it had its own article. I dispise the show, but that is way, way too much. Especially as a lot of the sources are not exactly high quality. I'd say the section is already sufficient in size, though there may be some scope to change it around. The Guardian, Time and Ortved can stay, but no more than a brief quote from each. And no quote boxes, unless you can balance it with a positive review. Gran2 17:31, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

That was only the beginning. I didn't want to add even more information as it seemed to be getting a bit too large. I actually truly love this show. It's just the specific sources I chose had less than flattering things to say. But I've got about 10 tabs open at the moment full of good, bad, and other things to say about the show's changing quality over the years (or indeed if there has been any change at all). It's really late over here, so I'll go to bed now, and tomorrow I'll get to work on the spinoff article. Perhaps you can have a look through what I've added and see how much should stay here, and how much should be reserved for the spinoff. :)--Coin945 (talk) 18:04, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
For example, I have the John Ortveid book with me, which has a wealth of quotes from Simpsons-related people about the show being as good as it ever was, but I skimmed over them to get to the text by the author himself. I'll add those other quotes into the article when I get the chance.--Coin945 (talk) 18:09, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
P.S. Yes.. I thiink maybe one or two were of dubious quality, but I knew it was a case of 'this is backed up in many sources and I just happened to pick a dud one' so I kept them there anyways, to be swapped later.--Coin945 (talk) 18:06, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
As said, I don't think a separate article is really justified, although I'd fully support re-writing and expanding the section a bit given that it is a bit stale. The Time, Guardian stuff is all fine (although not at the length it's quoted), but stuff like Dead Homers (as much as I would dearly love to include it), fails notability standards, unless you can find a reliable media source which mentions it. Anyway, I'll let you finish the job tomorrow before further discussion. Gran2 18:13, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
Thankyou for your patience. Rather than talking theoretically about it, atm I'm putting together the article. The references are just bare links because I've got a lot and would rather do all that messiness later. I'm working in Microsoft Word, so will post it in a sandbox soon. I really think this has a lot of potential. It is a majorly huge aspect of The Simpsons, and has been dominating the public discourse surrounding the show ever since the supposed end of its golden age (that's one of my sections - 'when' did it end).--Coin945 (talk) 05:52, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
I think there's some mileage here, but perhaps (although it would be more work) a broader 'Critical reception of The Simpsons' article? This could encompass the positive reaction of the early and the negative reaction towards the latter, without being overly focused on the issue of decline. Gran2 13:50, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
User:Coin945/The Simpsons quality. Not sure if that's the best title for it just yet, and also accept that there's a lot more to be done (a few sections need fleshing out, a few subsections need to be jiggled about etc.), but *dusts hands* I think I've done a pretty good job for such a short amount of time. I totally understand what you've said, and agree that a Critical reception article would be awesome too (and this can be the basis for that article if we decide to can it), but I think it is worth a looking over by you and others in The Simpsons Wikiproject. I'd love to help you guys get to work on the Cultural impact/Critical receptions ones. :)--Coin945 (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Properties of metalloids[edit]

Have drafted something along these lines. How does it look? Sandbh (talk) 12:43, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Good feedback; have posted a response. Thank you, Sandbh (talk) 07:57, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
More of the same! Might be good to go now. Sandbh (talk) 03:01, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

Merge hypersalivation/drooling[edit]

fyi I highlighted this proposal on WT:MED#Comments requested, hopefully will get consensus... Lesion (talk) 12:25, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

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About TAFI[edit]

Hello,

I think that things are going nowhere for the TAFI, as far as the main page is concerned. In my opinion, the most viable way to solve this situation is to simply start an RFC on the main page talk to finalize all the little details (Where do we put it, How many lines, How do we balance it, etc etc). Link this rfc from CENT and the watchlist, and village pump, and jimbo's talk page. Get others to comment on it, and have a decision taken. This seems to be the best and in this case, possibly the only way, to actually implement it on the main page anytime soon. What do you think?

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TAFI Holding area[edit]

Hello fellow TAFI member. Just a friendly note, when adding new nominations to the TAFI holding area, please post new entries at the end of the lists, so that older entries are scheduled first, and newer entries are scheduled after the older ones. I've added instructions on the page for further information. Thanks! Northamerica1000(talk) 09:19, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

TAFI[edit]

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Hello,
In the past few days, Today's Articles for Improvement has gone through many changes.

  • We have modified the process for adding Nominations, which now uses a template/table format and requires only 3 supports for an article to be selected.
  • There is now a Holding Area, where articles are kept for discussion before being selected for a particular date.
  • The TAFI schedule now involves adding 10 articles weekly, chosen from a variety of topics.
  • We now have an Accomplishments page where we will be highlighting our older TAFI articles which have now become quality articles on the Wikipedia.

The Project is almost ready to hit the Main Page, where it will be occupying a section just below "Did you Know" section. Three article from the weekly batch of 7 will be displayed randomly at the main page, the format of which can be seen at the Main Page sandbox. There is also an ongoing discussion at the Main page talk over the final details before we can go forward with the Main Page.

If you have any ideas to discuss with everyone else, please visit the TAFI Talk Page and join in on the ongoing discussions there. You are also invited to add new nominations, and comment and suport on the current ones at the Nominations page. You can also help by helping in the discussions at the Holding Area.

Above all, please do not forget to improve our current Today's Articles for Improvement

Thank you and hoping to have some productive work from you at the Project,
TheOriginalSoni (talk) 11:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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The Simpsons[edit]

Hello

I decided to reply here, because the discussion on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quality issue of The Simpsons started to divert from the original discussion.

I personally like overview articles like the ones you suggested, which is why I got History of The Simpsons up to GA standards. I do believe that The Simpsons deserve articles like the ones you mentioned. This however takes a lot of time, which I quite simply don't have much of these days. My last project was getting Media in The Simpsons up to GA standards. It still needs a lot of work, but it is way better than the mess it used to be. I have collected material for Politics in The Simpsons in User:Maitch/draft3 and Religion in The Simpsons in User:Maitch/draft4. I think it is a bad idea to merge the theme articles - there is just too much ground to cover. You could do an entire article on homosexuality in The Simpsons alone.

I feel bad that you did all that work on the Quality article, just to have it deleted. You do have some interesting tidbits, but you need to rework it into another form. I would advise you to save your article in a sandbox, like my drafts and then try and see if you can use it elsewhere.

I don't think I am much help anymore, since I am semi-retired. I have written up to 100 Simpsons articles, so I have done my fair share. I can offer you some advice from time to time. My main advice is that spend more time finding reliable sources WP:RS. You have way two many unreliable sources in your article.

What kind of project do you want to do most? --Maitch (talk) 19:50, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I appreciate all the hard work you've done for Wikipedia. Many Simpsons fans thank you. I don't really know what project I'd like to do. I think information from Quality could be used for articles ranging from critical reception to voice acting to writing. TBH I've kinda lost interest in the whole thing now. With the whole tackling the daunting task on my own to the AFD discussion which was more about deleting the article than objectively looking at the idea behind the creation of the article and seeing possible future directions, I'm kinda bored now. Plus, Wikipedia these days seems to only want B class articles as soon as they're created, so while I'd love to start branch articles on all those other things, you know they'd all be deleted for not having enough information in order to justify their existence... even thoguh the whole point of Wikipedia is to build on small things. You say you don't have enough time to work on such articles? Well I'm in the same boat. As I said, I'd be willing to start various articles for others to build on (the whole point of crowdsourcing), but we'll see how we go.--Coin945 (talk) 08:32, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
I totally get that you lost interest. These days I see many people who are trying to "fix" Wikipedia by deleting stuff, rather than doing the hard work of sorting out the stuff that works and build upon that.
Anyway, I think a better stategy for you is to pick a topic of smaller scope, collect enough reliable sources to justify the existence of an article while working on it in your own personal sandbox and then create the article when it is ready. Alternatively, you could do some work on the articles that already exists. Non-English versions of The Simpsons could really use an upgrade, but it has survived several deletion reviews. List of The Simpsons writers could use some text to go along with the list. Media in The Simpsons, Politics in The Simpsons, and Religion in The Simpsons still needs lots of work. Also, I had the idea of turning Products produced from The Simpsons into an article about "Commercialism on The Simpsons". Maybe we could collaborate on something, but I only think I can put in a few hours work per week. --Maitch (talk) 14:07, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

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I replied at the talk page for Snappy.
Also, there is a genuine imbalance that occurs whenever 2 lines are used, and not 1. So we really need a wide enough consensus before we can try expansion to 2 lines. We just need to keep our heads down, and wait. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 15:30, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

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Horrible Histories (2009 TV series)[edit]

Hi Coin, I notice that you are re-adding much that I took out though I gave reasons in the edit summary and are explored on the article talk page. Lines like

'Jenner has stated that he is "genuinely gutted" when the show gets a fact wrong, because the workers have invested so much time and energy into a show that they are so proud of. '

are too close to the primary material and to embedded in single production staff opinions. The article already covers in detail the number of errors made on the shows and that crew don't like it. I think the article needs to pull towards a more encyclopaedic tone and sound less like a glowing CBBC infopage. A reader who hates the show should be able to read the article and find it useful, seeing the simple facts reflected. I would prefer that you discuss re-adds on the article talk page, rather than just adding content straight back in. Span (talk) 19:12, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Coin, editors are walking away from the HH article in frustration with your approach. You are not addressing any of the issues raised on the article talk page and getting perilously close to non-consensus disruptive editing. Nobody likes to be ignored. Span (talk) 19:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
Span, To be fair, I didn't think there were *that* many editors editing the article to begin with. Just us 3, i'd have thought. And as I previously mentioned, i wasn't intentionally ignoring anybody. I like to edit articles undistracted, so i deliberately didnt check my notifications or the talk page or anything. it wasn't a conscious decision. i was just too busy doing other things. I agree with you in regard to having "a more encyclopaedic tone" completely. I find it extremely difficult to find the distinction betwen that and what's there at the moment. It would help me greatly if you guys could help me out. I seems like rather than actually editing the article, the poeple who have identified the errors are instead asking me to fix them.. which seems rather counterintuitive. Yes, i made mistakes, butt hat's what's so great about wikipedia. Others can identify and fix them. There were a couple of "well you cocked up so you fix it" type comments in the talk page, which was rather disconcerting... I'll see what the situation is like now. The reason i restored that info was just in case there was anything that would be useful in the completed article. I must confess I'm a tad hoarder-ish.. which probably isn't the best trait to have when it comes to wikipedia articles. Nevertheless, now that the article is 'complete', ti can be cut back and changed until the featured article lurking around in there somewhere comes to light.--Coin945 (talk) 13:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
I understand that it felt like we were asking you to fix errors. In your extreme focus you undid all the copy editing I did, without comment. The work had taken me the best part of the afternoon. There seemed little point in doing it all again and more if changes were just reverted. I am not suggesting you are incompetent (as you wrote on the article talk page). Your enthusiasm and commitment to Wikipedia are to be celebrated. But we are a fundamentally collaborative project - all placed on an equal footing. It's a team effort. Wikia has much less rigid rules and maybe a better to place to paste everything, if you are worried about information being lost. It may also be that detailed WP articles may be written on specific HH aspects. I'd like to hear from Coco on her thoughts about how to progress. Edit summaries really are very helpful for other editors to understand the reasons for changes. More than one editor working on the article at precisely the same time just seems to make editing hard for everyone. Span (talk) 18:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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For what it's worth, I didn't actually revert your edits. Your copyediting was much appreciate. All I did was bring back a whole paragraph or two. Paragraphs that as far as im aware you didnt copyedit at all, and merely deleted whole. I remember bringing back a chunk for the Anglo-centric section; the information suddenly had greater importance within the context of the article. So reinstating them didnt seem like that big of a deal. If I had reverted your entire useful edit, then i can see how that would have been a much bigger problem. This probably got lost in translation due to (surprise surprise) the lack of edit summaries. Thankyou for the virtual tea and biscuits though :)--Coin945 (talk) 06:18, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks much for Fuck help[edit]

Thank you for your help with Fuck (film), much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 23:47, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

Haha it was a tiny typo. But thankyou anyways, Cirt. It must be tedious reading over the same article again and again. It's only natural for one or two to slip through the cracks. Fantastic article by the way. Never even heard of this documentary before. Now I can't wait to watch it (...despite its average reviews.. :P).--Coin945 (talk) 09:20, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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quick follow up on TAFI[edit]

Hi Coin!!

It's so awesome that you're adding TAFI social media suggestions. I have to admit to laughing my butt off over the Spelling Bee one :) Can you address Tilman's comment here on the Java Man TAFI? https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Social_media/Calendar#July_15

I look forward to seeing more of your witticisms. Matthew (WMF) 23:53, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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Requested Articles[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Talking with your mouth full[edit]

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Send it to AFD instead TheLongTone.--Coin945 (talk) 14:30, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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Goldenseal[edit]

Thank you for your input on the Talk:Poaching page. I have already tried, very little I admit, to interact with BhagyaMani and am running into , it is in this book so that is how it is syndrome. I have run into this sort of dogmatic adherence to the cause before. The lede, I think you call it uses an very esoteric non-standard definition and the Acts of poaching section is factually incorrect even by the references provided. I appreciate your comments but what I really need help with is getting a balanced article that is not skewed by only including references to the exclusion of the generally used and applied meaning. I am collecting references and will continue editing when I think I have enough. I am beginning to develop a flow so hopefully the my frustration will ebb.

Thanks again for your concern. Economic Refugee (talk) 19:32, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Brilliant minds[edit]

I was archiving all those same TAFI entries at the same time. I'll be putting a bunch of noms down that I've been saving up. Or I could be confused as to what just happened... nonetheless, I'll be adding some noms. --NickPenguin(contribs) 01:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

TAFI error[edit]

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Daily hits wrong at TAFI[edit]

All your Philosophy and Religion nominations at WP:TAFI seemed to copy the daily hits number from Religious music above them. This means two things. One you copied the wrong daily hits numbers. Two, you added new nominees below old ones instead of above them.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Reply to "where we go from here" comment[edit]

The Signpost is typically published sometime between Wednesday and Friday. I'll finish the Signpost article later today. We let the responses to each question stand for themselves. There will be an introduction, a news sidebar, some pictures (if available), and a teaser at the end hinting at next week's article. –Mabeenot (talk) 14:58, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks![edit]

Hi Coin945,

Thanks for your very kind mention of my efforts in The Signpost. I haven't abandoned TAFI, I have just been consumed recently by other projects and Chapter work. I agree that it is great to have articles that need improving pre-identified. (Although there is no shortage of work to do in WP!) Keep up the good work - I will contribute when I can. Whiteghost.ink (talk) 09:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

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Crazy edit[edit]

What is going on with this edit?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 01:41, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Whoah.. no clue. Maybe I accidentally edited an old revision of the page. Only the comment on the zodiac sign needs to remain.--Coin945 (talk) 01:44, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

The new black[edit]

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Sorry, sorry[edit]

My apologies, I was wrong footed here. The Banner talk 16:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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Thank you response[edit]

Thank you for your kind comment on the Social Cue article talk page. My classmate and I will be adding more to this article as part of a assignment/project for our college psychology class. Once again, thank you for your kind words and helpful advice. L.Warren18 (talk) 18:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Long Point State Park[edit]

I closed this early. Bearian (talk) 20:19, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Nominated articles[edit]

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Prod of Ɛ̃[edit]

Do you mind if this is deleted? Bearian (talk) 17:56, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

I think it probably deserves an article, but if it gets deleted I won't be too phased by it.--Coin945 (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hi I am a student editing you're social cue wikki article and I am doing so as part of a class assignment. Therefore, I was wondering if you could not edit or repost your edits/comments until next week because my professor needs to see what I, along with my partner, wrote on this page. Thank you L.Warren18 (talk) 22:55, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Whoops.. genuinely forgot about hat. Sorry. Good luck with the assignment. :D--Coin945 (talk) 08:40, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Your recent HH edits in my sandbox[edit]

Hello! I just noticed that you've been making some edits to the text of the Horrible Histories article rewrite in my sandbox. While I'm always happy to have your help, can I please ask that you restrict questions or suggestions for the moment to the talk page? This is my version of the article, not the mainspace version, and it is still very much a work in progress. Without knowledge of my intentions you can't effectively assist -- it's really confusing to (for example) return to a quote I'd been planning to move and discover that it's been replaced entirely! (Incidentally, the Blackadder quote in question was intended to summarize both the cleverness and the trivialization and the adult sensibility in one swoop. I'll see about making that a bit clearer).

Once I've posted this version in mainspace it will of course be open to all. I'm actually planning to ask all the article's concerned editors to read and comment before that happens. But until then it'd just be a lot easier if I work on it solo. Thanks for understanding, Shoebox2 talk 01:16, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

I assume youre referring to my changing of the "one step above Monty Python" quote. I didnt really do anything else... besides leaving an edit comment about Grossology (without actually editing the article myself). For these things, I sincerely apologise. I'll leave you to it. You've done an extraordinary job. Massive kudos! :)--Coin945 (talk) 08:43, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, and apologies if I sounded over-huffy -- I wasn't really, just a bit un-nerved. :) (And you were right about the 'grossology' thing, incidentally.) I really do appreciate all the effort you've put into finding and marking potential sources. To the extent that I'm wondering quite seriously if you've ever considered writing a more in-depth, analytical article or thesis on the show, using the Wiki article as the springboard rather than the end result? There are a lot of places on the Net that would be looking to publish such a piece, and I think it'd be a much more rewarding outlet for your obvious passion for and commitment to the subject. Shoebox2 talk 20:52, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
"An artist knows he has achieved perfection, not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away". I'm quite happy to give you tonnes of links to save you time and energy and pull out some quotes I find interesting, knowing full well you may only take the odd word here and there. That's how copyediting works. But thankyou very much for your suggestion, and whether or not it is a shrewd way to stop me trying to help and use my talents more productively, I greatly appreciate the sentiment and will seriously consider it. I do have great pasisons in things - HH definitely being one of them - so having a creative outlet might be a good thing. In fact, I do have a Disney-themed blog to let out my other fangirl side. :)--Coin945 (talk) 21:06, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
You'll find my HH method of editing articles is a disease. See the current Good Game - an Australian game review show - article. I have a fear of losing information lol.--Coin945 (talk) 21:19, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I'm quite serious about you writing a more analytical article. The only serious suggestion I'd make re: your Wiki-editing style is that you collate your information on the article's talkpage as you've done here, or perhaps in your personal sandbox, and let other editors collaborate with you re: what's usable before adding anything (note this in action on, for instance, The Wrong Mans' talkpage). It's just as secure, and much less damaging to the article itself. Another thing that might help is to work on paragraphing, varying your sentence length and general style; I know it seems counterintuitive, but when confronted with a huge detailed wall o'text, the reader's instinct is to slide their eye right over it (if you're familiar with the meme, this is essentially "tl;dr" syndrome). :)
The really good news is that some of the article's other editors have now reviewed my sandbox draft and, besides a few constructive criticisms, have overall more than approved it (as per my talkpage). I haven't yet quite decided whether to actively pursue GA status, but in any case I'm very pleased. Thanks again for your help. Shoebox2 talk 18:49, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Thankyou for your contructive criticism. I'll take it all on board obviously. And it will no doubt help my essays for uni - as it requires essentially the same paraphrasing technique. I've been following the reviews of your draft by those two wiki-users, and totally agree with their comments. And you've done an amazing work further de-quotifying (i know that's not a word, but... :D) it. You mentioned you thought all that information about marketing and interactive content was not suitable for the article. I would have to disagree with you there - when all the sources are looked at as one entity, it seems to be a rather significant part of the TV show's success (at least worthy of a small paragraph) - but I guess I'll leave you to your judgements. I can take a hint, and your lack of using the bits and pieces on the talk page show you don't need them..although I cant help thinking many (like the info on the show's use as part of the school curriculum & the note that no laugh track is used) should still be incorporated. In any case, youve done a remarkable job.. and all that would really need to be done is a fix up of the infobox and a tidying of the awards/nominations list. One small thing: As I said in the article history, the image captions that i find are the most useful are those which explain the images' existence in the article, such that one can understand the context surrounding them without reading the prose; you removed these sorts of things when you edited the captions - something which I question. In any case, cant wait to keep watching you copyedit it - it's great to see what you've done with it. keep up the good work. :)--Coin945 (talk) 20:05, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
Also, i'm a guy.--Coin945 (talk) 20:05, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

[De-indenting to continue the conversation comfortably] Ooops... as someone who is routinely mistaken for the wrong gender (male) online, please allow me to sincerely apologise for that stupid assumption. And again, to say thanks. I remain in awe of your devotion to the cause and have genuinely found it valuable throughout this process. Just... like I said, dial it back a little and get some perspective (and preferably consensus) before you leap, y'know? :)

Re: your ongoing concerns, I think we can compromise on leaving the marketing awards in the table for now, and adding perhaps a few more sentences to the existing paragraph. My concern is that it's not particularly notable in terms of marketing techniques, but I'll take another look at the sources to see if any of them do make reference to assisting the show's popularity.

The info you found re: the show's use in school curriculae -- except for one nice article which I was able to use to source a sentence under 'Historical content' -- appears to be mostly individual random anecdotes, which don't honestly add up to a lot in my view. When I was a kid, teachers routinely read us various books, showed us films and had us use both both in projects; it's not an uncommon thing, unless perhaps the show's creators were to release an official study guide or something.

As for the laugh track, it's a tiny detail that -- forgive me -- I can't for the life of me imagine would be important to the reader's understanding or appreciation of the series, esp. as it's not mentioned anywhere in the multitude of media commentaries I've read. I do however agree I may have been over-hasty in pruning the image captions down. Will check the style of image captions elsewhere on the Wiki and adjust accordingly.

One possibly-important thing I do still feel might be missing is the Jubilee mini-controversy... feel like it should rate at least a sentence or two somewhere, but I can't figure out exactly where, or how (esp. with the Broadcast Now article, the major source, behind a paywall). Might bring that up for discussion on the article talkpage once it's been transferred over and see what everyone else thinks. Anything else you feel is missing, of course you can do the same. Shoebox2 talk 22:10, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, had another review of the marketing interactive media and I'm sorry, but I just don't see it as notable in the context of the show itself. It's a marketing campaign as all TV shows have, involving online-based multimedia as most marketing campaigns do these days. An apparently successful and even award-winning campaign which is great, and I as noted can certainly add another sentence or two to that effect, but it's just not unusually innovative or otherwise very remarkable -- as demonstrated by the fact that 99% of your sources are primary, ie. the ad agency itself. Nobody else seems to have cared, to put it bluntly, so it's unlikely the reader will consider it essential either. :)
However, I will still leave the awards in the table as mentioned, and if you feel strongly about it, you can certainly bring it up on the article's talkpage in future. Shoebox2 talk 00:21, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
One final addendum... just discovered the re-organizing of roles in the actors' infoboxes. Quite aside from your agreeing to avoid directly editing my sandbox text... yes, trust me, those are all recurring roles (OK, Boudicca's a bit iffy, since she only reappeared post-song in marketing trailers, but hey, it still counts as HH). I'm not going to get into how I know the details of nearly every regular-series sketch (it involves some time spent editing an HH review blog) but believe me, I know. :) Shoebox2 talk 05:22, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

OK, that's it...[edit]

I have asked you very politely, a few times now, to stay out of my sandbox text while I work on the article draft. I am under the strong impression -- backed up by other editors - that this is not an unusual or unreasonable request; given that this is effectively my private Wikispace, and given that I have, out of deference to your obvious eagerness to help, allowed some technical assistance, including the uploading of images (a mistake, in retrospect).

Yet you keep ignoring my clearly-stated wishes. This repeated refusal to acknowledge reasonable boundaries is, quite frankly, starting to seriously un-nerve me.

Your excuses for doing so most recently are not valid. I had explicitly asked you not to make changes to text, and you had agreed; there is no grey area here. There is also no 'time-consuming' in Wikipedia, we're not operating to a deadline and this article draft is anyway due eventually to appear in mainspace. Saying that 'these are only suggestions' and I can 'revert them at any time' (which I have, incidentally) does not excuse your intrusion in the first place.

You've left several notes in the past confirming that you're perfectly OK with my not using your multiple sourcing and other suggestions -- which, along with the fact of their being almost wholly unsolicited, is why I did not bother making individual notes detailing my reasons why not -- however your recent behaviour suggests otherwise. I get the impression you're getting impatient with my not taking up what you see as good ideas, and that's fine. But implementing them anyway, in my private workspace, over my express wishes, is not fine. At all.

(For the record: the PopMatters blog is just that, a blog, un-fact-checked and therefore completely unreliable for sourcing anything except opinion. The 'Format' section deals with material that is wholly self-evident to anyone watching the show and thus does not need sourcing to begin with (WP:BLUE). Most of your other source/topic suggestions, besides the ones I've demonstrably taken, are likewise unreliable, unusable or un-needed.)

So. I've been reading your responses to other issues on the HH article talkpage and your behaviour in this case seems to perfectly fit a pattern of apologising, pleading your ignorance or error, charming as needed... then going ahead and doing exactly what you wanted to do, claiming it wasn't such a big deal anyway. Repeat process until other editor either gives up or gives in.

Well, sorry, not buying any of it anymore. And frankly no longer in much of a mood to deal with it politely, either, either here or -- eventually, I'm sure -- in the article's talkpage.

So. Consider this your third and final warning. I am delaying posting the article draft into mainspace until tomorrow (Monday morning my time) to give you a fair chance to see and acknowledge this message. Please don't bother with further apologies, explaining or justifications; just acknowledge. And understand that if I ever catch you intruding on my private workspace again, in any way shape or form, I will immediately start exploring options to report the matter to an administrator. Shoebox2 talk 14:47, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

I want you to know that this wasn't a case of deliberately disobeying your commands in order to annoy you or because I thought I was better than you or anything. Whether you agree with this or not, my edits were always for the sake of the article and to make your life easier. I suppose I just have a very different philosophy in regard to the way sandboxes are used. I run my Wikipedia experience with an all-hands-on-deck approach at all times; any extra input is always welcome and not met with caution at all. I understand that my further edits probably did cross that line (although I specifically told you all you had to do was revert the whole thing to cancel all my suggestions), but to be fair that first edit of the bunch was an attempt to fix up my earlier attempt to reorder the characters, which you had criticised before. I know you feel like you have claim of ownership over the article due to all the amazing work you put into it, and I should have probably waited until the article was up and running before editing it properly, so in that respect I was probably out of line. But as I said before, in my eyes, what I did was not rude at all, and similar things have been done many times both ways in the past with no problems whatsoever. There are people on Wikipedia from all walks of life with very different editing philosophies, and this time round mine was just a tad too far away from yours. I won't touch the articles in your sandbox again.--Coin945 (talk) 12:07, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
  • sigh* Thank you. However, one more time: I specifically asked you not to do something, you agreed, and then you went ahead and did it anyway. That's it. That's the entire problem here. You know, like in the real world, someone tells you politely and reasonably to stop doing something that annoys them, and if at all possible you stop, because that's just basic decent human behaviour? Without wasting 1200+ words explaining that you didn't think it was a problem, while subtly implying that it was all their fault for being annoyed? Like that.
Please consider this my last word, I won't be responding further to this discussion. Going forward, however, I might just point out that I've spent an entire week, full-time, cleaning up the results of your 'different Wikipedia editing philosophy' -- or 'disease', as you yourself described it to me -- and will be keeping the experience in mind for future reference.Shoebox2 talk 14:30, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

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Cites for HH song list[edit]

I noticed the work you did citing the song list article. I'm still not convinced the song inspirations can be cited from anything but primary sources, but that's another discussion. Thing is, as you're fully aware, I'm in the process of merging that article's content with the episode list article, with your stated support (in fact, you argued against any delay). So now I'm confused -- are you trying to salvage the song list article after all? Shoebox2 talk 19:50, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

ETA: Further on the subject of sources... even the most plausible of the inspiration cites you've now provided seem to be to the already fully honking obvious -- Cleopatra makes specific mention of Bad Romance, for instance, and the Aztec Priests blatantly riff on the distinctive Stayin' Alive refrain -- which tends to support the idea that the referenced authors aren't working off any more viable info. Certainly the copywriter of a DVD ad, let alone the compiler of a quick blog entry, hasn't confirmed anything with the creators. In addition, different songs have different titles according to different official sources (the show's CBBC website refers to what Webb & Cohen call 'Natural Selection' as 'The Darwin Song').
I'm thinking re: titles W&C get ultimate say, so propose adding a line to the top of the list of episodes indicating that the songs have been given their creators' names for them where possible, then hooking the Soundcloud cite to that line. As for the inspirations, between the aforementioned obviousness and stripping out the obviously fan-driven speculation in favour of safely generic guesses (listing "Boudicca" more demurely as an alternative rock parody, for instance), I think we're much better off getting along w/out references for now, rather than compounding the problem with a lot of iffy ones. Thanks, Shoebox2 talk 04:59, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Would you have preferred me to directly edit your sandbox or sandbox talkpage? I thought so too, and that is why I went for the Song page instead. You are correct - I am fully aware of your merging of the song & episode pages - and so that is why I didn't bother formatting the references perfectly and instead dumped them in to, as I explained, give an example of how I thought the arguably-uncitable column could conceivably be cited. Your dislike of a forced pastiche/parody association for each song is most certainly justified, and going for more general is good. (Although I must confess the Hieroglyphics song is most definitely ABC by The Jackson 5). The titles are always going to be iffy. I didnt write the song list from scratch (instead copying it over form the main page) and the majority of the song titles seemed to use colons or parentheses in order to include all possible titles, for example something like "Natural Selection (The Darwin Song)". That always kinda confused me so I just left it there for the fangirls/boys to sort out rather than forcing a certain version onto the page. I see no reason why your sound judgement in any of these matters should be questioned. :)--Coin945 (talk) 05:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh and by the way, if you want to make adjustments to the HH template, please be my guest. I spent a significant amount of time juggling the info around, and the end product looks aesthetically pleasing to me, but perhaps there is a way you would prefer the information to be organised.--Coin945 (talk) 05:53, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Ah, OK. Was expecting the referencing discussion to happen on the article talkpages, but no worries. And I had already about decided to take the hint re: the Hieroglyphics song -- it's funny, I don't hear the ABC reference (even though I do know and like that song), but it does appear that most others do, so. That's one thing the refs are really useful for, establishing that kind of consensus. :)
As for the template... not sure which one you mean, but if it's to do with the episode list, I don't plan on changing much -- I actually really like the overall setup, the colour-coding and whatnot, and the the organising sketches by era. Basically I just wanted to hilight the songs and tweak the formatting to bring it more in line with the house MOS. Shoebox2 talk 16:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
ETA: OK, so I told a small orange lie. :) The blue-to-slightly-darker blue transition for Series 4-5 just finally got too confusing, so I went for something with more contrast.Shoebox2 talk 20:26, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh I was actually referring to this: "{{Horrible Histories}}". The current episodes table is, i believe, colour-coded based on the covers of the various series DVDs. So any change in those would be entirely justified - thats a relatively arbitrary method.--Coin945 (talk) 16:20, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Got you. Thanks again for the offer. The thing is, as I've mentioned before, my interest in HH is pretty exclusively with the TV-verse -- I'm a fan of the show and the actors therein, basically. My involvement with the books is limited to a passing glance in a bookstore when they were first released long ago; I was amused and impressed, and when I saw they'd made a TV series was inspired to check it out on that recommendation... at which point I became aware for the first time that there even was a multimedia HH franchise been built up in the interim. (It doesn't help that since then, frankly, I've been much less than impressed with Terry Deary himself, esp. the cracks about libraries.)
There's just no way I could do any of it justice. On the other hand, I know there are a significant lot of people out there for whom HH in print is still very much the only HH worth mentioning. You want to go looking for one of them to give you a hand, maybe on Tumblr or one of those fan-run wikis I mentioned previously. Or if you wanted to tackle it yourself after all, I'm sure you could find a veteran editor to mentor the process. Shoebox2 talk 04:12, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

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Good work[edit]

Just wanted to chime in and thank you for setting up TDWFB stuff; In particular, I wanted to thank you for your call for a greater diversity in proposals.

I had proposed some extremely pointed content, but not out of any conviction that pointed contented is the most effective. In encouraging a greater diversity of content, you help to ensure our success. Thx again for all your hard work. --HectorMoffet (talk) 14:30, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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  • I am not sure where to offer you this feedback. I saw the mfd on WP:The Day We Fight Back. I agree the page should not be deleted, as we keep proposals, even ones that fail. On a purely personal level I strongly agree with the sentiments of the The Day We Fight Back coalition.

    However, I am afraid the nominator has a valid point, WP:NOT says the wikipedia should not be used for "advocacy". If there was truly overwhelming support to undertake the measures you support, WP:NOT wouldn't matter. But I am afraid you won't find that overwhelming support.

    I've done a lot of work helping to cover topics related to counter-terrorism, and there is a phenomenon one finds in the general body politic, and one finds in wikipedia contributors. There are lots of people who accept as obvious that the post-9/11 recognition of risks to the public from terrorism require the general public to docilely roll over and allow security officials to steamroll traditional rights to privacy, free association, free speech.

    As I said, on a personal level I strongly disagree with these individuals. In my experience, when the public track record of clandestine rights-violating security measures are examined, in detail, one finds a record of terrible childish incompetence. The clandestine measures where the public has been expected to meekly acquiese to the surrender of their rights have not succeeded in making us safer. Rather, in my opinion, the reverse has proven true. The secrecy with which such measures are protected have allowed officials to skip the normal sanity checking, and the regular auditing and checks and balances one can expect in just about any other field.

    Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 16:26, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

More good work-- your thoughts on options[edit]

Thanks again for your work on TDWFB. One of the things I think may help clarify things for people new to the discussion is make-visible to people that there are "multiple visions" for how we could handle Feb. 11.

I get the feeling that you basically want Feb 11 to be a "special day" where content that meets traditional Main Page criteria and is selecting using traditional Main Page processes.

I, on the other hand, would probably prefer to word it as: "On Feb 11, we replace MainPage with an editorial that is clearly marked as an editorial, but which may take on the stylistic elements of our traditional Mainpage".

But the truth is I do not know WHAT the community will want, and ultimately, I only want the option that the community wants. I'm "widening the menu" of options to help ensure that we be prepared to implement the community's consensus, whatever it may be.

So visit Wikipedia:The Day We Fight Back/Options and see if you think the terminology and descriptions match your idea for the guidelines you'd propose for Feb 11. Please add or alter to make sure your view is reflected in the options.

I have written some really pointed, value-laden potential content, but that doesn't necessarily indicate I am convinced that's the best approach. I trust in the editorial process of our community to figure out the best approach and to later weed the good ideas from the bad ideas.

Fun working with you on this! --HectorMoffet (talk) 15:15, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

@HectorMoffet: Put simply, your vision will never be accepted by the community. Mine just barely scrapes by. As a bypasser who read a discussion, saw the support, and created the article, I seem to have become some sort of polebearer torchbearer (good god what an awful malaprop) for this project.. and I don't like it. I've been discussing this on the DYK and ITN talk pages all day and i've lost interest in the whole idea. If it goes ahead, great. If it doesn't, great too. But either way I would like to see more themed days on the main page. This quite frankly is not a cause i feel like fighting tooth and nail for. And i've probably already overstepped my boundary. So I'm not getting involved any more. I've said my piece - fully explaining how i think the project could go ahead...the *only* way it could conceivably go ahead - and now I'll leave the rest of you guys to battle it out.--Coin945 (talk) 15:23, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear you're a bit demoralized. For my part, I think your contributions have been incredibly helpful and have done a good job of representing what the community with actually support.
I would not be at all surprised if the community prefers a "special day" to an "editorial day"-- I only hope that by making the contrast clearer to them, I can help the community decide what it wants.
For the record, for me, this hasn't been a "battle it out" experience-- I'm comfortable with whatever outcome the community chooses, and I suspect your approach is going to be the one that garners the most support.
Sorry you've taken some hits; For my part, I really appreciate your contributions and I generally think your nominations and approach are superior to my own meager contributions. :)
Thanks, and don't let them get ya down. This is a new frontier for Wikipedia-- we're all gonna get stuck with a few thorns as we blaze this new trail together. --HectorMoffet (talk) 16:56, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, in the section with the images, you commented "Not FA. Not enough time to get it to FA." [2] Did you mean to write "FP"? —rybec 16:47, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

I meant FA status.--Coin945 (talk) 16:54, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
By FP, I mean featured picture. By FA, did you mean featured article? A picture isn't an article, yet you left comments "not FA" by the pictures. "Not a featured picture" would make sense. —rybec 17:16, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Pictures can still be FA status. Either way, who cares. If you consider it a typo, then be WP:BOLD and change it yourself. This is seriously way too trivial a quibble for me to care strongly enough about.--Coin945 (talk) 18:03, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for your edits[edit]

Thank you for your constructive and informative edits to the pages for Pray Anything, The Strong Arms of the Ma and C.E. D'oh. Could you help with the articles for season 16 episodes as well, now that it's out on DVD? Cheers. Wimpyguy (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

You're very welcome. :) Ill do whatever I can to help out here and there. Haven't gotten my hands on the season 16/17 DVDs just yet so will help using the souves at my disposal.--Coin945 (talk) 06:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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Today's articles for improvement/Nominated articles: Encyclopedic dictionary[edit]

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Wikipedia is perhaps the most revolutionizing act in the history of dictionaries and encyclopedias. However, there's been surprisingly little written about the other forms of encyclopedia, such as encyclopedic dictionaries. I'm not sure if there are any encyclopedic dictionaries anymore being published, but a good article on those sure would help better to position our dear Wikipedia in the field of encyclopedic history!

Thanks a lot and keep up the good work! :) Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 16:04, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

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Your recent edits to Horrible Histories (2009 TV series)[edit]

Coin, I'm not sure if you've noticed, but I'm in the process of shepherding this article through an exhaustive GA nomination, with an eye toward eventual FA status. Correcting factual errors is fine, but for now I am requesting that you please avoid directly making any edits that alter the article's content out of line with either the existing text or specifically recommended changes. If you feel strongly that something should be added/altered, the place to take it is as always to the article talkpage for consensus; you're also welcome to comment directly on the GA reviewer's recommendations as you like. Shoebox2 talk 17:19, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I did end up reverting your most recent edit. As mentioned above, the middle of a GA review is not the best time to start messing with text that hasn't been called out as a problem. In addition, you have to remember that a) there are actually three 'Americas', ie. North, Central and South; and b) to about 85% if not more of the English Wiki readership 'America', singular, is synonymous with 'United States', thus 'pre-colonial America' automatically reads as 'the United States before the white settlers showed up'. Meaning that c) no, 'pre-colonial Americas' doesn't work either -- the show doesn't, in fact, deal with the United States (or more accurately the land thereof) before the white settlers showed up, so we're just substituting potential confusion for outright incorrect info.
That said, I agree that the current wording isn't optimal, but it does get across that the focus is on all the Americas in general and the one country in particular, and the wikilink can clarify the rest as needed. Otherwise, again, a very experienced and thorough GA/FA reviewer didn't see a problem, so let's not start fixing what clearly isn't broken, eh? :) Shoebox2 talk 13:29, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Forgot to add (sorry for general incoherence, it's still fairly early around here) that this statement is in the lead, which is supposed to be a short, broad summary of more detailed content in the body of the article. If you check the Format section, you'll see that I re-added the Incas and Aztecs to the list of eras/civilizations specifically to help mitigate this problem. Overall, there is very little chance of even a casual reader coming away from this article unclear as to the show's coverage of the Americas. Shoebox2 talk 14:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Naming of elements[edit]

What do you think of the naming of elements article now? --Jakob (talk) 12:26, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

@Jakec: Wow...a major improvement. Thankyou. My stupid introduction still needs fixing though. And obviously more info on the different types of things elements are named after. And perhaps some info about how compounds/rocks etc. can be named from the element base roots. :) (on a side point, do you think the article deserves to exist? I decided to create it, along with a few others, in an attempt to provide a solution to the controversial Periodic Table issues that had been clogging up the Wikiproject talk page in the form of long convoluted discussions. The idea was to show all sides of the issue and not shove any one down the reader's throat. I think there is merit to this topic, but what do you think (as a much more intimate part of the Wikiproject's operations)?--Coin945 (talk) 15:30, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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  • @Ahecht: for further context on these chemistry stub articles' creation, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Elements#Placement of hydrogen in the periodic table - seen in this older revision of the page here. That should explain the articles' existence. Or at least justify their original creation. (oh, and in regard to the actually deletion nominations, an article's existence should be based solely on whether the concept itself is notable, not based on its current state.)--Coin945 (talk) 02:29, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
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Brick Like Me[edit]

Hey, i trimmed the reviews down at Brick Like Me cause were not really supposed to post full reviews, so i just tried to add in the main points. Koala15 (talk) 19:17, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

I don't mean to cause offense. I'm just stating my opinion. FYI I wouldn't call that trimming. I'd call it reverting, and then adding back a tiny bit here and there in subsequent edits. As one example, check out the section for Time magazine:
"James Poniewozik of Time gave the episode a positive review, saying "Brick Like Me" demonstrates that The Simpsons still has it, at least sometimes. Afterward, you and the kids can pop in the season 3 DVD and compare. Or put together the Lego Simpsons’ House–only $199.99, Brik-E-Mart not included."
I think that everything after the first sentence is not relevant whatsoever, and was only included because it happened to be int he final paragraph of that article. Note that I'm the first to admit that I included wayy to much info into the article, but there were some great points in there nonetheless. Compare the above to the info I thought was relevant:
James Poniewozik of Time gave the episode a positive review, and discounted the gimmicky nature of the episode, arguing "the two franchises simply play well together: Bart and company are every bit as iconic and expressive as squared-off plastic, while the smash-up-and-mash-up properties of Lego are perfect fodder for the series’ appetite for deconstruction". He said "'Brick Like Me' shows that The Simpsons can still be inspired, weird, and sincere, when all the pieces fall into place... The Simpsons still has it, at least sometimes."
There are a lot less wasted words, and a lot more points addressed. Yes, in my edit too many points were shoved into the article, but I also realised that many of the points were actually duplicated so I assumed the next logical step would have been to segment the review statements based on the topic, and then for each writing a statement that sums each up. For example, "the animation was praised" (link to reviews x, y, z), as was the voice acting of Smith and Castellaneta (x, y) etc.
I really don't mind the article how it is. I just figured there's so much depth to those reviews that is missing here, and it's a shame that the critical reception section doesn't give a much better representation of the richness to what reviewers liked and disliked.--Coin945 (talk) 19:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)--Coin945 (talk) 19:37, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Feel free to fix it or trim it if you think you can improve it. Koala15 (talk) 19:50, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
@Koala15: Kind of did just that earlier today... and look how that turned out.. :P (and no, i do not want to enter into a revert war).--Coin945 (talk) 19:59, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Well just keep in mind when writing a reception section were not supposed to paste half of the review. Koala15 (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

The War of Art (The Simpsons)[edit]

Good work on this article, mate. I reckon you should add a "production" section, as Matt Selman gave a fair bit information about the episode on his Twitter page, and maybe a "cultural references" section, although maybe that'd require sources that aren't from the episode. Either way, you could submit it as a GA after some extra work. :) I'd help, but I'm not very good with links and sources. Wimpyguy (talk) 23:54, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

@Wimpyguy: Thankyou very much for your kind words. Unfortunately while I'm good at scouting for sources and info-dumping, I'm a woeful copyeditor. I can't bare to let go of any info because I deem things notable and important when in the context of the article seem like trivialities. I also struggle with paraphrasing: how can I write something using different words while saying the same thing. Thirdly, I did a major buff up of the critical reception section for Brick Like Me, only to be reverted by Koala15, so I don't particularly feel like diving head first into an article right now...especially a Simpsons one. But thanks again. :) P.S. Due to l those classic simpsons reviews by the av club etc. recently being released, all the golden age season articles can be heavily improved. No way am I touching an FA or GA but since you worked on some of them maybe that's something you could look into. --Coin945 (talk) 10:05, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
(here we are. Though wayyy too long, I think the actual review information included have a much filler description of the feedback by reviewers than copy/pasting the last paragraph of each review imdescriminately and hoping for the best. Not complaining mind you. A bit miffed sure. But just explaining that loss-of-work feeling that puts you off).--Coin945 (talk) 10:15, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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I understand you wrote a version of the section and want it be used, but it is seriously flawed we don't need to organize it by topic. Not every site that reviews the episode is notable, we just need a small summary of the reviews. Take a good article like Exit Through the Kwik-E-Mart for example, that's how a reception section should look. Koala15 (talk) 19:33, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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  • On a side note, do you think it'd be a good idea to just make a list page for all of the spinoffs and close the AfD early? My only reservation with that is that I would like some confirmation that there weren't sources I missed due to the common-ness of the names, so I don't want to completely merge everything into one list and then have it be worthy of its own article. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:33, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Well I have a pretty good idea which should definitely be deserving of an article, and which ones tow the line. But in general a lot of them shouldn't even be considered spinoffs, and were placed there years ago because Terry Deary wrote them, or for other reasons. It's just messy, and most of them arent very notable either. Perhaps getting the community to suss this out is the best course of action. It's certainly stumped me for a while.--Coin945 (talk) 11:03, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

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One Jump Ahead[edit]

A one line sentence without any sources is no indication of potential. While a stub may be short with room to grow, it still must pass WP:N. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:58, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Your argument makes sense. I apologise for this conflict created by our conflicting opinions. Just to clarify, if I created a developed article on this song with sources and headings etc., it would potentially be considered article-worthy?--Coin945 (talk) 18:49, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
Of course. I'll let others determine if the sources are enough to make it notable or not. I would see if you could incorporate these songs into other articles first unless 1) the other article is so large a split is preferable or 2) there is substantial coverage in reliable sources on the song itself and not in an overall review of the musical, film, or soundtrack. Not every song needs its own article. --StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:14, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

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Please don't create articles for songs where the only information is their origin. These work much better as redirects. Songs need independent notability to warrant a separate article (it isn't sufficient that the album, musical, ... is notable to have an article on each song), and articles need to have more information than what a redirect would offer. Fram (talk) 09:52, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

It's not a case of there being no sources. It's simply a case of me creating an article that I know is notable, but haven't actually gotten around to adding sources. I think with something like this, breadth is much more important than depth. Now we have basic stubs for songs from some of the most famous and popular musicals, making it much easier for users to contribute. Each one may be small, but the info within them are correct, and a quick Google Search reveals there is actually a wealth of information available on pretty much all of them. I work on Wikipedia based on potential of an article rather than current state. After all, Wikipedia:Not paper.--Coin945 (talk) 10:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with notpaper, but everything with accepting redlinks and redirects when you don't add any information. Pleae also see WP:NSONGS: "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. If the only coverage of a song occurs in the context of reviews of the album on which it appears, that material should be contained in the album article and an independent article about the song should not be created.". Fram (talk) 10:07, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

The articles you write are also some 80% quotes, which is way too much. Please write them in your own words, with references, but without the overwhelming use of quotes. Plus, make sure that the reviews you do include are about the song, and not about the performer. 11:24, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Please stop, slow down, take your time[edit]

First you created countless microstubs missing any information. Now, when these get redirected, you rush into creating articles, but what you produce is overquoted and underresearched.

Take e.g. I Can Hear the Bells.

  • For starters, where are the wikilinks? Even the link to the actual musical, which I provided in the redirect, is removed again.
  • Production: "Nikki Blonsky, who plays Tracy Turnblad in the 2007 live-action musical film, was sick the day the vocals were recorded." And? Who took her place? Who sang the original (original cast soundtrack)?
  • Synopsis: "After bushing past Link, the main lead on the Corny Collins Show, Tracy Turnblad starts to dream about what her life would be like if she pursued a relationship with her. These thoughts of a future wedding and perfect romance and idealised." Um, with "her"? I think you mean with "him"... The second sentence isn't even a sentence.
  • Composition: "Orlando Sentinel notes "the chorus members produce bells whose tinkling emphasizes the dream setting of the song"." Too bad that the source given makes it clear that these were not in the original, but are an idea of the local director only... So, the only info you have on the composition is not a part of the original composition but of one later, local version of it.
  • Critical reception: most of these are very passing mentions, cases where this song gets about the least attention of all songs, like here (is that even a reliable source?) or the two mentions here. It gets one word here, which seems to be a fair indication of its notability and why it should be redirected per WP:NSONGS. This is not a reliable source], neither is this. Fram (talk) 12:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

This kind of resurrection of an article really isn't sufficient. Two sources, one unreliable (an angelfire fan website), and one that gives no information about the song whatsoever (the one line that mentions it is about a specific performer, not about the song), is really not enough to base an article on. Fram (talk) 08:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

"Please stop" is not the same as "start editing as User:60.230.203.57". Discussion is crucial on a collaborative environment like Wikipedia. Please discuss your edits instead of ignoring messages and continuing making the same type of edits on and on. Fram (talk) 10:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

And you are again adding, apart from unreliable sources and the like, some complete misinterpretations: in Ladies' Choice (song), you claim that "At this point, he had only been known for his higher register in High School Musical.", which is not supported by the source at all (rather the complete opposite). It is better to have no articles (or to have redirects) than to have such incorrect, rushed articles. You urgently need to stop these kind edits and start discussing things. Fram (talk) 10:37, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

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About the NBC broadcast you posted on Talk:Frozen (2013 film)[edit]

Sorry for using consensus to cut you out. I think this source may have enough weight. Could you please generalise some points in her response so that we can discuss on that? Thank you.Forbidden User (talk) 16:42, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Whatever you are referring to, I wrote a while back and can't remember the source or being cut out via consensus or anything.--Coin945 (talk) 17:37, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
Found it. Yeah, Julie doesn't actually give a statement unfortunately, but yeah it's transcribed for you anyhow.--Coin945 (talk) 17:52, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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