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Third COPYVIO block[edit]

You are blocked once again, for copyvio issues. You've been warned and blocked for this several past times, and yet we're having the same problems. Here, you made an entire article out of direct quotes, you didn't bother to write a single thing in your own words. And here you once again wrote a reception section not only entirely out of quotes, but also entirely out of the choice quotes that MetaCrtic used.

I've blocked you for a month. If we have to go through this again, its going to be even longer. You can't be doing this. Sergecross73 msg me 18:41, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Please be more vigilant for spam[edit]

I've just prodded Kenna Partners, which you accepted for AfC. IMHO this is nothing but well-dressed spam, clearly failing Wikipedia:Notability (companies). Please be more careful in the future. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 18:59, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Where in North Dakota Is Carmen Sandiego?[edit]

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The article Where in North Dakota Is Carmen Sandiego? has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

coverage is either local or cursory in nature, no significant coverage in multiple reliable, independent sources (?)

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. czar  19:07, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

Other copyvio: Hot Wheels: World's Best Driver, 2XL ATV Offroad (revdel), Amazon Trail II, Mayaquest: The Mystery Trail, Africa Trail (revdel). That's all I have time for right now. What a mess. czar  20:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

File source problem with File:Amazon Trail II cover.jpg[edit]

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Thoughts by Coin945[edit]

Okay... well now it just seems like I'm being picked on. I am making a concerted effort to improve Wikipedia and instead of being greeted with kindness and a culture where my edits are improved upon, I'm just blocked. Again and again until I go away. And obviously I have no power to argue my side as I am the one left voiceless. It is worth pointing out that the "copyvios" aren't actually copyvios as they are quotes from sources which are properly citated (check the critical reception section of any tv episode or movie. That's how it's done). Sorry let me rephrase that. How things can be done. Especially when the article is in its first-draft stage and there is much more work to be done. Plus "directory-listing" articles have a right to exist because if the topic is notable then even a stub is fine as that's a good barebones basis for a future article. It should not be niked because of size. But you don't need me to tell you this. I've already made my views quite clear. This is going to be interpreted as insolence and an unwillingness to conform to the high standards of the Video Games Wikiproject. No it is not. It is an appreciation that on Wikipedia articles start in draft stage, then get better and better through time. They don't just jump to GA. This is something that is simply not acknowledged. And is a massive bar to a large proportion of editors who work in slower sessions rather than one short burst. I worked on Carmen Sandiego's Great Chase Through Time for over 2.5 years - each time adding more sources and trying to make it the best it could be. But it started out relatively shit. And that's okay. Because this is Wikipedia. Where small articles are improved and grown. At least theoretically. But in truth that's not how this corner of the Wiki-world works at all. And quite frankly it's made me quite annoyed and upset. I want to help so much but do not feel confident shooting articles to FA, so I do my smaller improvements in my own way. I firmly believe a stub article is better than no article at all. But I am simply blocked and ignored. So once again I am left confused and upset. Yes, my articles weren't perfect. How could they be? They weren't finished. They were a work in progress. They were made two days ago. Why would you rather delete than improve? What a silly way to build a collaborate group of editors in an encyclopedia project. We pool together our individual skills to make something greater than ourselves. At least that's what I thought. So I guess the Trail video game series now remains as shit as ever, you all go off to your own pet projects, and I stay blocked for doing everything in my power to create good healthy articles. Well that's just not cool. So once again I leave you for a month against my will. My one request is for my GA-nominated article to be removed from the listing. Goodbye.--Coin945 (talk) 00:04, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

You're missing the point, its not that your articles "didn't have enough time to develop", its that you're not so much "writing articles" as much as you're just copy/pasting massive amounts of texts. Several of your recently deleted articles were about 95% direct quote. Even ignoring the obvious copyright issues, there's the other problems. What you were doing was completely redundant -your articles commonly matched Metacritic text exactly - what's the purpose of reposting this info that is already readily available from its own source? And beyond all of that, it was really lazy writing. It didn't read well. They were commonly devoid of any sort of formatting, infoboxes, categories, etc etc. Sergecross73 msg me 01:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Seriously, if you think that these articles are necessary to exist why don't you create drafts for them? They won't be deleted unless you haven't edit it for 6 months. You have a lot of time to develop these drafts with your own words, find sources, improve them as much as possible before submitting your review request. I don't quite understand why you don't add categories, info boxes and review templates to your latest articles though. They are much more easier than developing the core content of a page. I also think that if you choose not to create drafts, you shouldn't rushed your articles. You could have made them one by one instead of finishing them within one day. AdrianGamer (talk) 13:32, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Thoughts by Jimbo[edit]

@Jimbo Wales: I know you're busy with many other things, but if I could spare a moment of your time I'd love to hear your thoughts on this very real Wiki-issue in my life that has hindered my ability to contribute. Long story short, this is the third time I have been blocked by Wp:VG administrators for creating "copyvio directory-listing articles". I have stated my case above. If you need examples of said articles, many have been deleted, but in sure those who blocked me can dig some up to show you what all the fuss was about. This is bigger than just me. This is about how we choose to conducts ourselves when dealing with the admin-user divide, and it is something I think that should be brought to your attention.--Coin945 (talk) 00:32, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't know why you'd think you'd get sympathy from the founder of the project when you've violated so many of principles of his website. Even ignoring the copyright/sloppy article writing, you overtly and repeatedly ignored a consensus that said these sorts of articles were not acceptable. You ignored a consensus you were very aware of, and then ignored a bunch of warnings. Instead of starting more discussions on what you were doing, you just decided to go off and start doing it again when no one was paying attention. No part of this deserves any sort of sympathy. Sergecross73 msg me 01:09, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
Coin, this has been explained to you before. While Metacritic does not own copyright in the quotes, they exercise creativity in the quotes they choose to highlight. When you copy-paste those quotes into your "critical reception", you violate their compilation rights. See [1], specifically the section on "Compilation Copyrights". As per the example there, BitLaw does not own the URLs they list in their "legal links" section, but they do own the compilation of those links. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:26, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Amazon Trail II cover.jpg[edit]


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Orphaned non-free image File:The Oregon Trail 5th Edition cover.jpg[edit]


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Can someone please add these to the Trail template?[edit]

In a new "Other" row, there should be The Trail to Oregon! (a musical by Starkid based on the game), The Organ Trail (a spoof zombie-themed video game), and both Oregon Trail & Route of the Oregon Trail (the actual historical trail the original game is based off). In addition it would also be nice to add those deleted articles back as redlinks so people know what articles still need to be created. (Amazon Trail II, Mayaquest: The Mystery Trail, The Oregon Trail 5th Edition) But I know for some reason some Wikipedians are iffy about that.--Coin945 (talk) 02:14, 22 February 2015 (UTC)


I can't find the exact link, but I think the only reason people retain talk page access when blocked as a way to discuss the block itself. (Questions/discussion about what happened, unblock requests, etc.) I don't think you're really supposed to be discussing/requesting other things. Beyond that, my thoughts generally align with WP:WTAF, and a number of editors at WP:VG think that the individual games source coverage is so weak it might be best to have more of a "series" or "list of x Oregon Trail games type article for many of the articles. Sergecross73 msg me 18:21, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2015)[edit]

Trailer Park Trash.jpg

Trailer Trash is a US derogatory term for poor people living in trailers or caravans. It appears that these trailer trash happen to live on a trailer park.

Hello, Coin945.

The following is WikiProject Today's articles for improvement's weekly selection:

Trailer Trash

Previous selections: Ice cream parlour • Stadium

Get involved with the TAFI project! You can...
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@Qwertyxp2000: as someone who has been heavily involved with TAFI from the start, I wanted to give my two cents about the current status of the project. I think there is way too much focus on the voting and behind the scenes stuff, and there is little to no actual article improvement. Which is a little disconcerting. Rather than being so caught up with the exact process of how the specific article is chosen (also I dont think the voting system works because those who vote for articles rarely actually end up improving them so in my opinion they are not qualified to judge what the best articles for TAFI are...but thats another story), I think that as a central member to the project in 2015, you should rally the troops and get them excited about editing TAFI articles. The latest one - Trailer trash - is actually really fun and inclusive, so I'm sure you can get some much needed improvement happening. :)--Coin945 (talk) 06:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)