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Posted by Coldcreation

The image, a photograph of Jean Metzinger, published in 1913, can be found directly in the 1913 publication, or here: http://books.google.es/books?id=qYATQ3Rw6qgC&q=metzinger#v=snippet&q=metzinger&f=false The cubist painters By Guillaume Apollinaire, translated and analyzed by Peter F. Read, University of California Press, 25 oct. 2004 - 234 pages.

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Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Antoine Pinchon[edit]

Hi, I'm not sure whether you knew that Robert Antoine Pinchon had been nominated for Did You Know? I've now reviewed it and have some concerns; could you have a look? In particular, there are several paragraphs with no reference, and Did You Know requires at least one reference per paragraph. I also think from the style and length in some places that you may have translated the Lespinasse book a bit too closely, but I can't see it to verify. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:28, 20 March 2012 (UTC)


From Coldcreation: Hi, thanks for your time spent. I've gone back and fixed up a few things (see edits) and added the citations where needed. Indeed, the Lespinasse book is a great source, not just for text but for photos. I did my best to put some of his writings into my own words. Otherwise I would place quotes around the text (in the case of a literal translation, usually short) Coldcreation (talk) 15:59, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I did see; thanks for all that effort! I did some further shortening and rewording and added two more mid-paragraph refs to Lespinasse on the assumption those facts were also from there. And I replaced the mention of a photo of him painting at age 12 with the one of a photo of him painting at age 8 that was in at least two sources I can see, and referenced it from one of them. I think between us we have probably eliminated any overly close translation there may have been, so I have given it its tick. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Coldcreation wrote: The photograph of R.A. Pinchon, on page 14 of Lespinasse, 2007, is from 1898. The painting pictured in that photograph is dated 98. He is clearly not 8 years old in that picture. So I can only assume that sources stating he is 8 years old are mistaken. Note too that there is, on the same page in Lespinasse, a color reproduction of the painting with the date visible. From 1 July 1898 Pinchon was 12. Aside from that change (which I just made) everything else appears accurate.Coldcreation (talk) 06:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Robert Antoine Pinchon[edit]

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Henri Biva[edit]

What makes the author of the Henri Biva page think that the painter represented on the postcard at the top of the page, "Un coin du parc at Villeneuve l'Etang" is Henri Biva himself ? same question about the other postcard lower on the page, "Parc de Villeneuve l'Etang - promenade autour de l'Etang" ? --Dmmtvg (talk) 16:53, 5 May 2012 (UTC)


I have answered this question (a good one) directly in the Henri Biva talk page. Coldcreation (talk) 07:32, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for the notification. Those non-free images have now been removed for the userpage. Coldcreation (talk) 01:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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  • The Copyright tag for this image has been modified to the more general PD-US-1923-abroad. As such, this image is perfectly suited to Wikipedia rules for the publication of images. This work by Pablo Picasso was published abroad before 1923, and thus can have no independent copyright in the United States. It is simply a faithful reproduction of an old, public domain, 2-dimensional work of art published outside the United States prior to 1923. Coldcreation (talk) 08:26, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

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I just added[edit]

a book about Joseph Csaky to the Further reading section of the article about him and you removed it,calling it "unproductive"?. What would be considered a productive title to add? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

  • Perhaps 'unproductive' was not the right word. Sorry for that. But that book by Balas is referenced in the article 15 times (See section entitled References). There is no need to place the same reference in the article in yet another section: 'Further reading', which is already loaded with further things to read.Coldcreation (talk) 19:33, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Makes sense. I felt that I was having a "productive" day editing and that word just hit me wrong. Life is supposed to be interesting. Carptrash (talk) 19:39, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

  • The intention was good, and that counts very much Carptrash. Coldcreation (talk) 19:43, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

Another thought. I have been doing stubs for the red linked artists on the List of artists in the Armory Show list and did a rather unsatisfactory one for Jacqueline Marval. Since you seem to have a firm grounding in French art perhaps you could take a look at it? Carptrash (talk) 16:13, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

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Clément Serveau[edit]

The reason I removed the link from Clément Serveau to inforapid is because it fails our policy on reliable sources because it incorporates information from wikipedia (basically making it like referencing wikipedia itself) our policy on verification of information requires us to use third party sources that are reliable (information from that source can be trusted). If you have any questions let me know. Werieth (talk) 21:54, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

  • Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I hadn't caught it. Coldcreation (talk) 05:26, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi, I nominated En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger) for DYK: Template:Did you know nominations/En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger). If you have any suggestions for changing the hook or adding alternate ones, please go for it. (I discovered this article because the new notification system told me that an article I wrote, Georg Muche, had been linked to from yours.) MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:30, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

  • Excellent, thanks Mandarax, I think both the artist and the painting (wherever it may or may not be) merit the nomination. Good article, by the way, your Georg Muche. Coldcreation (talk) 19:44, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I had difficulty with the Muche article and was just glad to be done with it. I wish I was as good a writer as you are, but I plod along doing the best I can.... MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

I hadn't looked at the Jean Metzinger article for a long time. Not long ago, when it was a tiny stub, I put it on my long list of articles that I'd like to expand some day. Wow, I checked it out today. Thanks for enabling me to cross that off the list! I'm sure you did a much better job than I would have. Ah, I just wish it had been nominated for DYK. It's been on my watchlist forever, but I guess I missed it when you were working on the expansion. (Alas, the vandals get more of my watchlist attention.) Thanks for the great work you're doing! MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 10:54, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

The DYK stalled because someone left an absolutely ridiculous comment (the 201-character hook was over the limit of 200) and, unfortunately, there's a mentality at DYK that, once someone has added a comment, no matter how ridiculous, nobody else will touch the nomination. Somebody finally left a useful comment – that there are some unreferenced paragraphs. DYK guidelines suggest that there be at least one inline citation for every paragraph other than the lead (with a few exceptions). Can you add citations to the paragraphs which have none? Thanks. Oh, and thanks again for all of your hard work. These days, I think you're the person who pops up on my watchlist most often. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 07:40, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
  • Yes, certainly. I'll get right on it. The paragraphs will be referenced shortly. And thanks again for your support. Coldcreation (talk) 07:47, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
  • I saw the notice yesterday, Mandarax. Was waiting to see the number of views. I'm glad it idid well, will hold a place in the hall of fame and be permanently archived. I think Metzinger would have appreciated it too had he been around. Such a sensitive and intelligent man, he deserves the recognition for sure. Thanks again Mandarax... Coldcreation (talk) 10:30, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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  • Thank you very much indeed Graham (Sulfurboy). Appreciated greatly... Coldcreation (talk) 08:45, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

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Alexander Archipenko sculptures[edit]

FYI - I've added {{Do not move to Commons|expiry=2034}} to your 3 images - the artist died in 1964, so under German law, he and his descendants have full copyright until 70 years post death. As they are pre-1923, they are OK to stay on en-Wiki.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:46, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for En Canot, Im Boot (Metzinger)[edit]

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Couchée de soleil?[edit]

Why does the title of that Jean Metzinger painting, contain a French mistake? Do you know what the history behind it is? Contact Basemetal here 19:49, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

  • Good question Basemetal. The source of the error, as far back as I could find, is from a publication: Neo-Impressionism, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, Robert L. Herbert, ‎1968.

In Neo-Impressionism it is written on page 219:

161 LANDSCAPE (COUCHER DU SOLEIL). 1906-1907

Oil on canvas, 28 1/2 x 39 1/4" (72.5 x 100 cm.).

Signed l.r. "J. Metzinger" and verso "Couchée de soleil no. 1".

Verso: RlVER SCENE WlTH SHlPS.

Collection Rijksmuseum Kröller-Müller, Otterlo.

There is a a photograph of the verso of the painting in the same publication. The title Metzinger wrote on the back is in fact neither COUCHER DU SOLEIL (Coucher du soleil) or Couchée de soleil no. 1

Next to Metzinger's signature on the reverse, the title reads: Coucher de soleil. The n° 1 is written above that title.

Unfortunately, I had not examined very closely the back of the work or I clearly would have seen Metzinger's actual title before publishing this article. Note: the verso has another painting (River scene with ships) upon which is superimposed, upside down relative to the River scene, Metzinger actual title. There is a mosaic-like rectangle of paint above the "e" of Coucher that looks like an acute accent (accent aigu). However, the "r" that follows is certainly not another "e" forming 'Couchée' as Robert Herbert must have thought.

So the correct title of this work is indeed Coucher de soleil no. 1.

Now all I need to figure out is how to change the title of the article. In the mean time I will, thanks to your inquiry, change the title where it appears in the article. Thanks again Basemetal. EDIT-> I've just added this discussion to the talk page of the article in question. Coldcreation (talk) 21:20, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

    • Done. The name change has been made. Coldcreation (talk) 00:15, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Precious[edit]

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Geometric abstraction
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  • Thank you Gerda Arendt. Positive feedback like yours above is what keeps me going. Coldcreation (talk) 19:26, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
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Jean Metzinger images[edit]

All of those files are miss-tagged. See {{PD-1923}}. Werieth (talk) 17:51, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

  • The Metzinger images in question are tagged:
  1. An appropriate copyright tag explaining the basic claim of fair use is given for each work.
  2. A separate, detailed, specific fair use rationale is provided each time the image is used in an article. The name of the article within which the image appears is included in the rationale.

These are low resolution images used for encyclopedic purposes. They are essential to the articles in question. Please do not remove them for their respective articles. In the mean time, I will look into the {{PD-1923}} tag possibility. Thanks for you help. Coldcreation (talk) 19:21, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hey! I am hungarian user Apród.

Can you help translate from hungarian into english that article is about István Tóth hungarian photographer - at hungarian user Kispados request -? Should be a nice day! Apród (talk) 23:40, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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  • Thank you Amanda. Great point. I have just revised the image gallery practically entirely. Found some very relevant works to include.Coldcreation (talk) 09:13, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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Hi. Please explain this change. Tomer T (talk) 01:08, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

  • Hello Tomer T. Yes, sorry, I should have explained as I made the change (EDIT: though I notice you did not give a reason for your edit either). I happened upon the Renoir article a few days ago and was pleasantly surprised to see a photo of the artist snapped during his first artistic peak, at a time around which he was painting Le Moulin de la Galette, during the Impressionist period, before the turn of the century, at a time when he was considered as a ground-breaking artist.
  • The image of Renoir you included (in place of the former) is similar to the ones found throughout the Internet, of a Renoir towards the end of his career, well beyond his prime as an artist, at a time when Impressionism had already been replaced as an avant-garde phenomenon first by Symbolism, then Neo-Impressionism, Divisionism, Fauvism, and even Proto-Cubism (c. 1910). If you would like to discuss the matter further, to reach some form of general consensus, feel free to post in the Talk section of the Renoir article. Coldcreation (talk) 07:36, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. I moved the discussion to Talk:Pierre-Auguste Renoir#Lead image, and added my response there. Tomer T (talk) 17:50, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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Gustave Miklos is the only red link sculptor on the List of sculptors, where I pretty much routinely remove such links. It would be great if you could throw together a stub for the fellow and turn his link blue. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 01:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your message Carptrash. I actually had started to create a stub for Miklos yesterday, then got sidetracked. I will put something together very shortly, and expand it at a later date. Coldcreation (talk) 06:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
He looks like an interesting character. The recent book about him (in French) costs 225 Euros, a bit out of my range. I'll stick with Eli Harvey. Carptrash (talk) 16:13, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
I just posted the draft article Gustave Miklos (it's not really a stub). Draft because I stopped his biography around 1927. Coldcreation (talk) 00:27, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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Brancusi - work like a slave[edit]

Coldcreation - I'd rather see the quote showcased within the article. It is a striking quote, and was selected by art critic John Berger for special mention. It does more good than harm where it is. Perhaps the quote in the lower section can be removed, it you prefer. What do you think?36hourblock (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

I would rather see the quote in the section where it belongs; Brâncuși on his own work. As it stands now that quote seems contextually out of place in the article. I'm moving this conversation to the Brâncuși Talk page for any further discussion. Coldcreation (talk) 22:27, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

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Dear Coldcreation, You have reverted my corrections to Bohr's Philosophy section. I have made every effort to comply with the Wikipedia guidelines, but if I have missed anything I would appreciate an openly voiced correction, rather than a silent deletion. As it currently is, the article grossly misrepresents a very important aspect of Bohr's life, and showing only one side of this issue violates every principle of honest representation. I would be happy to consider any specific and relevant criticisms on the matter, but for the integrity of the article and the quality of your own reputation it seems in your interest to undo this deletion for now. Thank you for your work.

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If you would like to include your text in the article post it first in the Talk page for consensus. Nothing personal, but the article seemed better before your post. The quote you used was unrelated to Bohr (per your source link), and the long sentences were awkwardly composed. Certainly, you could come up with another way of saying what you wrote. Using shorter sentences may help, along with quotes directly related to Bohr's position on the topic. Thanks for your comprehension. Coldcreation (talk) 07:38, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you for uploading the picture "Idyllische Flusslandschaft.jpg", but, most of the pictures I had inserted before on the Paul Biva page have been deleted (and probably those you mention as having worked on because they were "floues") because they had not been officially published before : i.e. in an exhibition catalogue, or by a commercial publisher. Even pictures from auction sales are not allowed, although they may have been published in a catalogue. Therefore your picture "Idyllische Flusslandschaft.jpg", from the catalogue of the auctioneers Dorotheum will probably be deleted by the same robot or "cleaner". I have the feeling that the French wikipedia is a lot stricter than the English/American one. Otherwise i would have many more pictures form both Henri, Paul and Lucien Biva to upload !--Martine Vidal (talk) 18:09, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Martine Vidal, thanks for your input and contribution to the Biva articles. Wikimedia Commons is an online repository of free-use images. The work of Paul Biva is in the public domain in countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years or less. I've just added the template PD-art-100 to the Commons images for Paul Biva. There is no reason why the photos you uploaded cannot be used in the French Paul Biva article. The user that removed them for the Paul Biva article was not justified in doing so. They need not be published. My only recommendation is to use good quality images. Pictures from auction sales are allowed. The images you uploaded are in the public domain because they represent works of art painted by a French artist who died more than 100 years ago. I will see if I can find some nice works by P. Biva online, and I will upload them to Commons, then I will proceed to post them in the French Paul Biva article. Let me know what you think. P.S. I would love for you to upload more Paul and Henri Biva works to Commons. Coldcreation (talk) 18:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
Martine, I've just upload to Commons some works by Paul Biva. They are now in the French Wikipedia article Paul Biva. See Galerie. I also modified the image of Paul himself; a wonderful photo by the way. I hope the enhancement to your liking. Do you have any photographs of Henri Biva? Coldcreation (talk) 00:55, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
Bonjour, many thanks for the addition of the Paul Biva Galerie; I do hope it stays uploaded. The argument given for deleting my own images was : "retrait de sources primaires (ventes aux enchères)", and I had this, previously : "L'article est illustré de plusieurs œuvres émanant d'une « collection privée ». Si ces œuvres n'ont pas été reproduites dans des sources secondaires vérifiables (monographies éditées à compte d'éditeur, catalogue d'exposition de musée reconnu, article dans la presse...), elles constituent des sources primaires et devront donc être retirées. --90.2.33.82 (d) 7 octobre 2012 à 23:35 (CEST)".

The pictures I might add are from my personal collection of paintings, so I expect they would even less qualify, but I will try as soon as I have time. Again many thanks for your help. --Martine Vidal (talk) 16:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Martine. The person that informed you and deleted the images didn't know what s/he was doing. These images (yours included) are perfectly usable in Wikimedia Commons, and thus in Wikipedia for any country that respects the PD-art-100 law, copyright term of life of the author plus 100 years. All Paul Biva (and Henri Biva) works are in the public domain in the source country: in this case France. If anyone removes the images let me know.
So, do you have any Henri Biva images (of the artist or his work) that you would be willing to share? A long time ago, 9 March 2012, after correcting dates for Henri Biva and for Lucien Biva, you wrote "I have a few more details about the Biva family that I may add". I'm still waiting?  : ) Coldcreation (talk) 18:32, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

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Copyvio re-addition[edit]

Hi! You reverted my removal of copyvio material from Dick Higgins even though I clearly described it as such in my edit summary, and gave the link, http://archives2.getty.edu:8082/xtf/view?docId=ead/870613/870613.xml. You also did the same at three other articles. I'm quite sure you didn't mean to add copyright-infringing material to the encyclopaedia, but that is what you have done. Rather than undo your edits, I thought it would be more polite to ask you to do so yourself. Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Justlettersandnumbers. There is likely a misunderstanding. I simply replaced the External links you removed from three articles. While it is not recommended to provide many external links, several you removed were of importance. They should probably be selectively included rather than across-the-board deleted (as you have done). Your Getty links appears valuable, and so I will leave you to choose the course of action to take. Though I would dislike to see many more mass-deletions of external links in the near future (as I feel they add often precious information to the encyclopedic content provided to our users). As far as I know, adding external links does not amount to adding copyright-infringing material. Thanks for your kind message. Coldcreation (talk) 11:03, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your pleasant reply. The copyvio is not in the link, but in the description that follows it, which in almost every case this user, whose only activity under three or perhaps four names has been to spam links to the Getty archive (not something that is likely to please that outstanding institution), has copied verbatim from the archive description. If you feel that the links themselves are valuable (they were, as I recall, also broken, btw), then I will probably just remove the descriptions from them if I do not find that you have already done so when I get around to that.
On external links in general, it's my opinion that since excessive external links are generally discouraged and numerous references are encouraged, the best thing to do with useful links is to use them as references. What about something like "His papers are now in the Getty Foundation archive"<ref>? Best regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:20, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Move of Daniel Robbins reverted.[edit]

Greetings! I have reverted your bold move of Daniel Robbins so that the move may be discussed. Per Wikipedia:Requested moves, potentially controversial moves must be discussed through a move request before the move is carried out. Any move of a page with a longstanding title and/or a large number of incoming links should be considered potentially controversial. Furthermore, per WP:TWODABS, it is not necessary to have a disambiguation page if there are only two possible meanings of a term, and one of them can be considered the primary topic of the term. In that case, it is sufficient to place a hatnote at the top of the primary topic page indicating the existence of the other page. Since no discussion has occurred with respect to these articles, no evidence has been presented to upset the presumption that the longstanding page at this title is the primary topic of this title. Cheers! bd2412 T 14:10, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello Coldcreation. Your requested move at Talk:Daniel Robbins#Requested move has run for seven days but is now up for closure. So far nobody but yourself has commented. If I were to close it now, most likely the result would be No Move, since the programmer Daniel Robbins has more than 250 incoming links on Wikipedia. This is not really a judgment on the world-historical importance of either person, but when there are only two people to be distinguished, putting a hatnote on the top of one of them is commonly done. Which one will get the unqualified name, and which one gets the hatnote, is negotiable but may not be a crucial decision. I also discussed this at User talk:BD2412#Talk:Daniel Robbins#Requested move. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 19:50, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
I would suggest relisting the discussion for another week, to be sure. Cheers! bd2412 T 20:17, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestions. I don't think the number of incoming links should trump notability, so another week would probably be a good idea. Coldcreation (talk) 01:39, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

The Kiss[edit]

Thanks for pointing out the error in my poorly thought page-move. I felt the best way to correct it was a three-part move: I moved Rodin's sculpture back to "The Kiss (Rodin sculpture)", while moving, for consistency, Brâncuși's sculpture to "The Kiss (Brâncuși sculpture)". Meanwhile, I made "The Kiss (sculpture)" a disambiguation page. Please feel free to comment and/or fix/revert anything I may have screwed up. Thanks again! Joefromrandb (talk) 05:43, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

The works of Paul Dubois- French sculptor[edit]

Hi

Just to say that I appreciate your efforts in cleaning up my piece on Dubois. Never sure whether to put "musée" or "Musée"! Thanks again Weglinde (talk) 08:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Pablo Picasso[edit]

Hi, you undid my edit, saying "source needed for such a claim" [4]. WP:LEADCITE advises

Because the lead will usually repeat information that is in the body, editors should balance the desire to avoid redundant citations in the lead with the desire to aid readers in locating sources for challengeable material.

The claim is supported by the sources in the body of the article. —rybec 11:14, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to revert my revert, but the list of things Picasso did is already extensive in the intro. He also enjoyed shooting photographs. But this fact and the ones you wrote are not the most important points covered in the article, which is the purpose of the lead. Perhaps the word artist is sufficient. Coldcreation (talk) 14:10, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
The term "artist" encompasses all the other activities, but isn't usually understood to include writing. —rybec 21:20, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Arthur Dove[edit]

Your revert of my edits to Arthur Dove is in direct contracted with the policy-backed consensus at WP:NFCR. Regardless of whether there is a FUR, consensus determined that the images fail WP:NFCC and should therefore be removed. I do not care either way, I just made the close as an uninvolved editor. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:30, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I do care. These images need to be seen. Coldcreation (talk) 22:32, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
So, because YOU feel the images need to be seen, its okay to go against WP:CONSENSUS and WP:NFCC? -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
No need to scream. I will find more public domain images of this important artists works (published before 1923). Coldcreation (talk) 22:41, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
I do apologize for raising my caps; you are correct that was uncalled for. Also, I should have phrased it better, I do not care if the images are used. But I do care if policy is followed and consensus determined that those images did not. It looks like there are many many paintings by Dove that are in the public domain. The other option is to make the images not violate WP:NFCC (specifically #8) and gain consensus for their inclusion. As an outsider, it looks like there is no context of the Me and the Moon image in the infobox. Per WP:NFCC there must be critical commentary and there was none. For the other image (Nature Symbolized or Reefs) the article only discusses that he creates it. Point 8 of WP:NFCC requires that there be content in the article about the non-free images that requires the images be included. What this breaks down to is you don't need to see the image to know he painted it. But if there were content about the style he painted on that specific image, and why he painted, or the colors, etc, it would be necessary to the image being there. Good luck with whatever you choose to do. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 22:46, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Discussion moved to Talk:Arthur Dove. Coldcreation (talk) 22:53, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Coldcreation2[edit]

Does that account belong to you? Its user page says it does, but your user page doesn't mention the other account. See WP:SOCK#NOTIFY. —rybec 13:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes it does. See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Coldcreation2 and User:Coldcreation2 where it is mentioned (no puppetry involved) with a link to User:Coldcreation. I would love to have only one account (Coldcreation), and I thought I registered with Unified login (for Commons, Wikiquotes, etc. where I also contribute). For some reason when I edited French articles only my IP address showed up. If you know how to unify my accounts let me know. Coldcreation (talk) 14:10, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for answering. I meant that User:Coldcreation has no mention of the other account. WP:SOCK#NOTIFY point #2 recommends having links on both pages. The unified login doesn't always work for me, either. —rybec 16:19, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

About ARTUNAD (Gustave Miklos's page)[edit]

Hello Coldcreation,

I see you have canceled several times ARTUNAD's changes on Gustave Miklos's page. ARTUNAD was recently blocked 24h on French Wikipedia for vandalism and multiple passages strength. This is a repeat offender. Because of him, Heddryin put the blindfold R3R on Gustave Miklos's page (French Wikipedia). I quote Heddryin (28/11/2013) : "Malgré de nombreuses remarques de différents contributeurs, ARTUNAD continue à imposer son point de vue dans cet article. Le bandeau R3R est mis en place".

Its main source is the book of Mrs Danuta Cichocka (Gustave Miklos. Un Grand œuvre caché), published in September 2013 by her own publishing house (so without no review committee). This book was rejected as source on French Wikipedia because it has no reputation (it is just allowed to appear in the bibliography section).

You may also notice that A(r)TUNAD = DANUTA backwards. ARTUNAD looking to advertise Mrs Danuta Cichocka's book (600 copies, each of which costs 225 euros).

Warnings and blocking are shown here: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:ARTUNAD#Pas_une_source. So, your suspicious reaction is perfectly justified. Good day, BerAnth (talk) 10:21, 10 February 2014 (UTC). And thanks Google translate :o)

Merci, BerAnth (talk). I will go back to the English Gustave Miklos article and remove anything left behind by that user. Thanks for keeping me posted. Coldcreation (talk) 10:32, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Jacques Doucet and his hotel[edit]

Hi, would you like to add some text about Doucet's hotel to Jacques Doucet just to give the image a bit more context? As it currently stands, it is floating there, without contextualisation, and doesn't relate to anything currently in the article text. I nearly removed it as a good-faith edit, but thought I'd ask you first if you had any interest in expanding the article with a section about the hotel to contextualise it. I HAVE moved the image to the other side though, as it knocked the layout a bit out. All best, Mabalu (talk) 13:33, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Certainly. Thanks for contacting me first. As soon as I get a moment I will expand on the Doucet studio image.Coldcreation (talk) 13:36, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I added some info (much of it in the image caption already, now in the main body of text also), but will be back to elaborated further still later. Coldcreation (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
Fantastic! Thanks so much. Mabalu (talk) 14:06, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

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Une étoile pour vous ![edit]

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thank you for your photographs, specially for Georges Braque. Lepetitlord (talk) 10:12, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Clyfford Still page[edit]

Hello, Coldcreation.

I work with the Clyfford Still Museum and have been attempting to strengthen the Clyfford Still wikipedia page. The times I have made edits, they have been deleted. Just know that we are gathering our references to make the content verifiable, and would appreciate some feedback or comments form you concerning the success of the page. Which parts need citations immediately, and which can be added after the skeleton of the page is fleshed out?

Thanks,

--CSMwikipage (talk) 17:22, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

  • Hello CSMwikipage,
When making changes in the article, please briefly describe the changes you have made in the Edit summary (located towards the bottom of the page you are editing). Also, note that you can make changes and preview them before actually saving the page (by clicking on the Show preview button, next to Save). In this way you can make several changes before finally saving a number of changes. This will make it easier for other editors to view the changes you've made. If you feel some of your previous edits to the Clyfford Still article are worthy of retaining feel free to reintroduce the material, but be sure to provide sources and references. A final note, be careful not to remove references and sources linked to the material already in the article, as you did in this edit. Thanks, Coldcreation (talk) 17:49, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Song titles edits on Genesis page[edit]

I have changed back the edits you have made to song titles on the Genesis page. I think you will find on articles for many other acts that songs are in speech marks and album titles are in italics, so the Genesis article was correct and consistent with other pages before you made your changes.Rodericksilly (talk) 22:14, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Ok, no problem. You did the right thing. I should have checked first. Thanks for pointing this out. Coldcreation (talk) 04:54, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

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Seurat[edit]

Hi, you appear to be a little trigger happy with your undo's at Georges Seurat. From the history, I can see there is a lot of vandalism and assorted nonsense going on, resulting in endless undos. Maybe you are not accustomed to seeing any constructive edits?

  • You removed sourced and perfectly referenced material
  • You removed an image which is actually discussed in the text and which depicts a person discussed in the text
  • You removed an image which illustrates his life/death
  • Your summary says: "Only major works". Since when? why? This is about an individual. Images illustrating subject's life are perfectly okay.
  • You earlier removed his (sourced) date of birth from his bio because it is "a repetition of the intro". An intro is a summary, a bio is supposed to be complete. As a result of your edit, Seurat's date of birth is currently unsourced again.

This article really needs some help (lots of unsourced material, errors, glaring omissions) and is rather poor for a major artist like this. I would be happy to help, but not like this. Cheers, Superp (talk) 06:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps you are correct. Though his birth dates is already mentioned twice in the article (lead and infobox). A third time may not be needed. No source for this date was removed. An image of his sepulture at Cimetière du Père-Lachaise is certainly not needed in the article (it neither illustrates his life or death). Imagine how many gravestone images would be found at Wikipedia if such were included in all article about dead people (or even half of them). In this case it adds nothing to the article. Feel free to add more material but make sure you provide sources. Coldcreation (talk) 07:20, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Hi again.
Summary: you complain about unsourced material, but I added none. You revert edits which add valid sources instead. Confusion ensues.
  • I actually bought this book (new, very well researched I think, great illustrations) partly because I thought it would be a valuable WP source. I came to this article because I think it could be better. Almost everything I did so far, though I referenced it down to the exact page number, was kicked out by you. Seeing my edits being reverted like this demotivates like hell.
  • As an aside, if you are an art lover and interested in Seurat c.s., get the book. ISBN 9789073313286. 
  • I have taken the time again to inspect every single edit I did, and can not find one bit that I did not ref. You keep talking about unsourced stuff. Can you please point out this alleged unsourced material, so I can improve my work method if needed? Please provide a link to the diff. Thank you.
  • Seurat's birthdate was unsourced. After my edit, it was sourced. Now, after your revert, it is unsourced again. How is this better?
  • The bit about Knoblock/Knobloch and their first child was unsourced. I added facts and a source, you reverted, so now we have unsourced text again and less facts. Why?
  • That's two fact/ref relations I added, you rev'd.
  • The tomb situation: you formulate a personal opinion as a fact. I think, on the other hand, the img brings across the time Seurat lived and his family background. Nothing wrong with feeding the other half of the brain. It's something we could discuss.
  • If you want me to contribute to the article, let me put this nicely, we have to work together in a different way. This is just frustrating and wasting my time.
Cheers and happy editing. Superp (talk) 13:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

This discussion is now moved to Georges Seurat (Talk). For any further discussion of the topic please refer to the Talk page in question. Coldcreation (talk) 14:07, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

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Henry Moore photo on the Modernism page[edit]

Hi. I'm Doug 4. I noticed that you reverted my photo change for the Henry Moore sculpture on the Modernism page. I agree that a bronze would be preferable to the white painted plaster, but the photo angle of that bronze sculpture doesn't give an adequate sense of the sculpture's form, which for me is what distinguishes his work. I was looking on Wikipedia for something more like "Reclining Mother and Child" (1960-1), but the "Reclining Figure" (1951) was the best I could find. Doug4 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 22:49, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Doug4, indeed, the white painted plaster is not typical of what one would expect of a work by Moore. However, at Wikimedia Commons, Henry Moore and also at Commons in the Category:Henry Moore there are quite a few bronzes that are exemplary of the artists works. Feel free to chose the one you think will fit best in the article. Best regards. Coldcreation (talk) 05:23, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Hello ColdCreation. I think this photo might be a better choice.
Reclining Figure (1957-1958) by Henry Moore in front of the Kunsthaus Zürich, Zürich, Switzerland.
What do you think?
Doug4 21:10, 15 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug4 (talkcontribs)
The sculpture looks good and is quite representative of the artists work. Though I wish the photographer would have cropped the background, or framed the sculpture a little closer during the photoshoot. I'll let you make the call. Best. Coldcreation (talk) 21:15, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree with your comments. I cropped the photo and inserted it in the Modernism article. I hope you approve. Cheers! Doug4 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 23:36, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Nice work Doug4. Coldcreation (talk) 04:13, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Monet[edit]

Yeah, saw that discussion now, but still, I think the pictures really is not quite enough to demonstrate Monet's diversity, and development. Many of them are the same: it's all water-lilies and ponds and bridges and and La Gare Saint-Lazare... it is getting close to a kind of clichés. Actually same with van Gogh too, he made so many paintings that are airy, using pinks and light blues -and NOT always the strong colours he is known for. Anyway - Monet has many less iconic, but wonderful pictures worth showing - don't want to create the idea that Monet=water lillies. Maybe it will be an an other article, if there is no place for them there. Hafspajen (talk) 19:42, 16 September 2014 (UTC).

I fully understand your point and sympathize with you. However, this discussion should take place on the Monet Talk page rather than here. That will likely be another heated debate within which I will gladly participate. Cheers. Coldcreation (talk) 20:00, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Rodin's signature[edit]

Sorry about that - I didn't see that there was already another very similar image. Thanks for noticing. Perhaps the image I was inserting is a clearer one, so maybe it should be swapped in to the place where the other rodin-signature is now? Wittylama 15:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Article for Le Monde about Paris[edit]

Hi. My name is Eric Albert. I am a journalist working for Le Monde You can see my articles on this page I am contacting you as I am going to write an article about the interesting debate regarding the Paris page on Wikipedia in English, especially about the question of the Defense photo. I stumbled upon it by chance, researching something completely different but find the dispute very interesting. It raises interesting questions about the image of Paris but also about who decides what on Wikipedia. Would it be possible to talk to you about it, as you have contributed to the page? Sorry if it is not the right place to contact you, I am not a Wikipedia editor and not used to its internal system, although I did write a story about Wikipedia (behind a paywall) during the last Wikimedia conference in London (I am based in London). Many thanks. Eric Albert Londres (talk) 16:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Eric Albert Londres, I will gladly participate. I would also contact ThePromenader at his Talk page, as he, perhaps more so than anyone else, has been dealing with this for some time; he is well aware of the subject matter and the problems related to it. If you would like to send us an email (with your contact coordinates), feel free to follow these simple instructions.

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Sistine Chapel edits[edit]

Hi CC. I noticed you've reverted recent vandalism to Sistine Chapel. Not sure if its on your watchlist or whether you were just recent edits patrolling at the time. I thought I should let you know that I've requested pending changes protection to reduce the level of vandalism. To approve edits you would need the reviewer right. If you have any ongoing interest in the article you may want to request it. Cheers, Stlwart111 05:33, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

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Suspected work of Miklos on your page[edit]

Hi, I regret informing you that the big image (Totem) illustrating the english page of Gustave Miklos, this image is not included in his Catalogue raisonné (publishing 2014). So is not the work of Miklos. It will be more careful to remove it. Contact me if you need the assistant to make the new choice because unfortunatly for this artist, on Web and Wikimedia Communs, we find more of falses than of the originals works of Miklos. Best, Artunad — Preceding unsigned comment added by ARTUNAD (talkcontribs) 15:12, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

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Auguste[edit]

Saw you were editing Rosa Bonheur a lot. Do you think you know any facts that you could add to Auguste Bonheur? It's new. Hafspajen (talk) 11:50, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll see what I can find. Thanks for the notification. Coldcreation (talk) 12:21, 24 October 2014 (UTC)