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Thank you[edit]

Good job on your edits to the Italy article. The improvements you've made have had a great effect on improving the look and organization of the article. I hope you continue to contribute! Sicilianmandolin 13:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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Image copyright problem with Image:Italy FIFA2006 winner.jpg[edit]

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Military insignia from WP:MCR[edit]

I'm afraid you have the situation exactly backward. Contrary to your assertion, any work of the US Government, including its military, are public domain by a specific provision of US law. This is not generally true in other countries, and where such a provision is lacking -- as in Italian copyright law -- works of a government are protected by copyright just like everything else. Legge 22 aprile 1941, n. 633 (as amended) Art. 67 seems to govern here, but it appears to cover only legislative acts, works related to public safety, and administrative, parliamentary, and judicial procedures (proceedings?) and not, for example, the contents of a government website or symbols of governmental agencies.

But even if that were not the case, you tagged that coat of arms as a fair-use audio recording. The basic information you were given, that the image was mistagged, is perfectly true. And given that your government does in fact own the copyright to its own symbols (absent any information to the contrary, which ought to be publicly available without contacting any high government officials) we do need your fair use assertion to be properly justified. Sorry if that upsets you, but that's the situation under Italian copyright law and international treaties to which both Italy and the US are party. TCC (talk) (contribs) 23:17, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Military_of_Italy_insigna.jpg[edit]

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Image source problem with Image:Matteotti.jpg[edit]

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Politics of Italian regions[edit]

I noticed that you worked hard on many articles about Italian regions. You may be intersted to help me with the articles about Italian regions. You could start with the region you like or where you live, taking example from Politics of Veneto and related articles. --Checco (talk) 12:04, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

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Province of Brescia[edit]

Good work in updating those Lombard figures. In this edit, however, you didn’t update the year. I’ve changed it to 2008, but just in case you were using some other year for some reason, I thought I’d mention it. Cheers, Ian Spackman (talk) 20:09, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Metro Manila GDP[edit]

$108B in 2005, but we're now in the year 2009 so Metro Manila's GDP is now $135.83B and its growing 5.9%! --Secaundis • (myTalk) • (myContribs) 00:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Sicily[edit]

Conte di Cavour, please do not remove images on the Sicily article without prior discussion on the talk page. Sal73 and I have been working very hard on the article. It's tiresome to replace your deletions. Thank you.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

COMPLIMENTI![edit]

Complimenti per aver stavolto l' intero articolo sulla sardegna, senza aver discusso con gli altri utenti di wikipedia prima di rivoluzionarlo completamente, eliminando persino eventi storici tra i più importanti avvenuti sull' isola —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.10.243.177 (talk) 14:51, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Sardinia[edit]

Vedo che studi in Italia, quindi ti rispondo in italiano. Quello che hai fatto nell' articolo sulla Sardegna, cioè una modifica radicale, senza discuterne, potrebbe essere considerato un vandalismo a tutti gli effetti. Avrei anche qualche sospetto sul fatto che le varie cose che hai scritto, siano frutto di un copia e incolla, se c'erano unicamente errori di grammatica, avresti dovuto correggerli, però a quanto vedo ti sei permesso anche di cancellare foto, momenti storici, sezioni come quello sulla genetica e scrivere un sacco di cose sbagliate, come nella sezione "economy", dove parli di fabbriche inesistenti, ad Arbatax la cartiera non funziona più da 20 anni, chi sarebbe la principessa Adel Asia??? semmai si chiamava Adelasia! per quanto riguarda la demografia, per quale motivo hai cancellato la parte in cui si parlava della longevità. del tasso di natalità e fecondità, non riguarda la demografia questo aspetto??? Sei anche pregato di rimettere a posto i vari Internal Link, avevo sprecato una serata per metterli a posto.

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Area metropolitana di Napoli[edit]

Ciao ho visto che hai modificato alcune cosette: allora i dati censis dicono che è la seconda area metropolitana dopo la mega regione lombarda, ma dunque è la prima tra le aree metropolitane "prodotte" dall'"eccentrismo" di una sola città, non so se mi spiego... dunque è importante far presente che per il censis è seconda solo alla mega regione lombarda!! altra cosa, io, francamente, eviterei di menzionare i dati ocse, sono quelli meno attendibili sull'area napoletana e poi sono, in maniera risaputa, alquanto campanilisti, come si suol dire voce di popolo voce di dio !!!... la stragrande maggioranza delle fonti è concorde sul fatto che l'area di napoli è seconda, o addirittura prima come mostra il recente rapporto CENSIS. questo è quanto, grazie mille e buona giornata.--Focak (talk) 03:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

No, per carità non ho detto che hai sbagliato, è un semplice confronto!! però secondo me andrebbe specificato che i dati censis dicono che è la seconda dopo la mega area lombarda e non dopo l'area di milano, il che è diverso!! perchè l'hai cancellato? bhe, in quanto all'area di napoli, non essendo nè di parte nè niente, non posso fare a meno anche io di dire che questa in questione è senza alcun dubbio (ma proprio nessuno) la seconda area del paese, niente da vedere con quella di roma: ma non capisco proprio perchè i dati ocse la raffigurano seconda, mentre terza quella di napoli... sono un buon conoscitore dell'argomento ma non proprio un esperto e a parlarmi male dei dati ocse è stato un mio amico laureato in urbanistica e progettazione che fece riferimento ad un certo campanilismo ed altre supposizione tecniche sbagliate!! personalmente, indipendentemente che siano campanilisti o chissà quale altre supposizioni, io ti dico che quei dati sono semplicemente ridicoli (quelli soprattutto in riferimento all'area napoletana) 3.100.000 l'area di napoli?? e 3.700.000 quella di roma?? ma scherziamo?? è assurdo!! l'area metropolitana di roma non è altamente confrontabile con quella di napoli per motivi che sarebbe troppo prolisso spiegare.. poi avrei da ridiere anche sui 7 milioni dell'area metropolitana di milano, anche quì ho i miei dubbi, quest'area è puramente regionale e non è stata "prodotta" dalla presenza di una sola città, ergo, milano, come invece succede per napoli, dove la sua area ha preso vita grazie all'eccentricità di quest'ultima, non so se mi son spiegato!! quindi, per me, i dati migliori e seri sono proprio quelli censis!! ciao e buona serata :) .--Focak (talk) 19:18, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Ciao, sarò breve perchè l'argomento si prospetta insidioso e prolisso :) per me possiamo lasciare anche così, ma sappi che l'identificazione della mega regione lombarda è un tantino diversa dall'area metropolitana di milano, perchè è scaturita non solo da una "singola influenza eccentrica". In quanto ai dati, io ritengo molto più affidabili, molto spesso, quelli "di casa", perchè come si suol dire, si conoscono meglio i polli, eccetto i dati poco seri... ma i svimez, nulla da dire, sono ottimissimi e seri, consigliatissimi!! e poi l'ocse mi pare strano che rappresenta gli unici dati internazionali sulle aree, sulla wiki italiana sono stati presi in considerazione altri, li vidi in giro sulle voci sempre relative ad argomenti urbani, se non erro!! cmq sia quelli ocse per me e per molti altri rimangono quelli tra i meno affidabili, non ci resta che affidarci quindi ai dati futuri sperando di trovare maggiori consensi compatti e minori divisioni, ciao e buona giornata :).. --Focak (talk) 02:59, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Comoros[edit]

Your recent edit seems a bit sloppy. You changed the figures in the infobox, but not elsewhere in the article, making it self-contradictory. More importantly, those figures seem suspect. They suggest that the country lost nearly 125,000 of 800,000 of its population in three years, but the population density went up 10%. Is it possible that the source doesn't include the disputed island of Mayotte (which by convention is included in our article)? Dominic·t 11:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I suppose I'll revert then, until we figure out what is going on with the numbers. Next time can you give your statistics a basic sanity check? :-) Dominic·t 12:17, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

POV[edit]

Ciao! I've noticed your last addition in Ferrara (although useful) is rather full of what we call here POV and WP:Weasel words, such as "extraordinary", "probably" etc. Such subjective judgements usually must be provided with some source, as they clearly express a personal point of view or hypoteses which is not accepted in this encyclopedia philosophy. Ciao and let me know! --'''Attilios''' (talk) 16:53, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, beware of Bible which must be in capitals, and also that in English centuries use Arabic numbers (16th century, instead of XVI century). Ciao e buon divertimento!

Additions appreciated, but please discuss[edit]

Hello Conte di Cavour. Whilst I do mainly agree with some of your changes to the Milan page, do you mind please discussing them on the talk page, since they are relatively radical and change the page dramatically, so I'd appreciate that. Anyway, reply and ciao!--Theologiae (talk) 17:29, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

A non sapevo che tu parlavi italiano. Io lo so parlare mediamente bene, allora puoi anche scrivermi in italiano--Theologiae (talk) 17:31, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Conte di Cavour, alcuni edits che io ho fatto sono state discusse (Italia e stata discussa tantissime volte, e altre citta). Nonostante questo, non vuoldire che gli errori che ho fatto io devo essere copiati da te. Milano l'ho solo migliorata, visto che prima era un po corta. Io non sto dicendo che quello che tu hai fatto e terribile (ansi e meglio), ma sto dicendo di discuterlo prima. E riguardando il fatto che Milano l'hai scritta tu, non vorrei distruggiere il tuo articolo, ma ricordati che nessuno e propietario di un articolo, e tu puoi aver' anche fatto degli errori (vedi la pagina Wikipedia:Ownership of articles). Intanto, buon lavoro con la pagina, e sto pensando anch' io di cambiare alcune foto. Riscrivimi per dire le tuo idee.--Theologiae (talk) 20:00, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Saro collaborativo. Solo una cosa. Non trovi che magari sarebbe meglio mettere la foto dell' ultima cena assieme a quella di raffaello, visto che e arte, non un monumento. Vorrei invence metterci una foto dell' arco della galleria. Suggerimenti?
Un altro punto. Non trovi che questa foto Galleria vittorio emanuele ii 02.jpg sia meglio di quella foto che c'e della galleria? Questa qua e piu bella, mostra il ottagono e tanti negozi. Ho capito il punto della foto di Milano di 1900 e anch'io adesso capisco. All' inizio, pensavo che quella dell' duomo era piu bella, ma adesso so che e meno interessante e piu noiosa. Va bene, rispondi--Theologiae (talk) 22:12, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

Nature[edit]

Do you know why the sections on Nature and Vulcanism were removed from Italy? See my note on that articles talk page.Notafly (talk) 15:15, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Copyright problem: Tethys Research Institute[edit]

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I think that you are a little bit paranoid. I've not copied, but in order to write something about that important Milan-realted institute, I took its own self-destription from its website...guess that that kind of brochure-stuff is thought exactly for this kind of divulgation work, and it doesn't have any academic value to steal, my dear zealous admin. Or should I invent things? Maybe think the next time before blaming people that work for wikipedia, creating pages from nothing, or if you continue this copyright violation which hunt you will destroy wikipedia.

--Conte di Cavour (talk) 10:39, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

It's policy. We can't pick and choose what copyvio to overlook. Dougweller (talk) 13:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Minor edits[edit]

Please don't mark your edits as minor unless they actually minor = see WP:MINOR. "Checking the minor edit box signifies that the current and previous versions differ only superficially (typographical corrections, etc.), in a way that no editor would be expected to regard as disputable." Your edits at Rome were not minor. Dougweller (talk) 13:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Issues on Economy of Italy[edit]

You know that what i did was not vandalism. I came with a good idea, but you don't accept it. So, i'll get the subject to the Moderation. When you said that has a better view on the subject, because you are italian and i'm brazilian, you made a mistake. This way, you are stating your POV. Read this: Wikipedia:Neutral point of view

PS: Don't put other user on our talk, with what the other said about me.

GustoBLSJP (talk) 00:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Why do you carry on complaining about imaginative persecutions? You DELETED things that you didn't like: you simply can't do it, you can't delete the WORK of a lot of other users with groundless reasons (lack of neutrality and poor grammar? absolutely false), this is the point. I'm involved in Italy page since 2007 (but the majority of the page was already here): in the last 4 years, we met a lot of users like you, who used to arbitrarily delete huge parts (leaving the graphics of the paragraphs with holes, without fixing it, like you've done), change everything, give lessons to others, being arrogant, starting flames, etc. You can ADD sourced parts, but you can't DELETE a big part just because you don't like it. If you start absurd flames about parts that have been written during many years and that are very well sourced, and if you DELETE these parts without discussing, and without sufficient reasons, it is nothing else but vandalism. The parts that you ADDED: no problems, they have been left and YOU KNOW IT. But you must RESPECT the work of other users: you can't come here and nonchalantly delete 4 years of work without a reason. And I want to make it clear that I'm not talking about myself, because I've written only small parts of the page. Today, unluckily, Italy is very fucked up, and hiding this reality would be dishonest, since we are not writing a tourist guide. Nevertheless, Italy has many good assets that are very well highlighted in the article as well. I've pointed out that I'm Italian not to claim a superiority, but ONLY because you said that the article is written by "haters" and it is not neutral: this is very absurd. Instead, it is perfectly neutral, and since I'm Italian, I can witness this simple fact: that it is balanced and highlights the weak and strong points of my country. IF IT WERE WRITTEN BY HATERS OF MY COUNTRY, I NEVER EVER WOULD TOLERATE IT. But it is absolutely not the case. And much more than this, every single line of the Economy section has a very good reference, so you can't absolutely delete parts, only add. So, please, stop your useless crusade against me and the page, it is a waste of time for everyone. Best Regards, --Conte di Cavour (talk) 11:31, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Take it easy. You accuse me several times here. I'm not on a crusade against you, i'm against the stupidities that someone, with low knowledge on the subject and grammar or lack of neutral comment, insert there. I talk to you on "Discussion", insert my sources, and you still calling me a vandal. I'm taking to a Moderator. You do not own the article.

Maybe you didn't realize that you must BALANCE controversial subjects (like "the sick man of europe"), to not sound moronic. Do you realize that this term has been applied to almost every country in Europe, and NOT OFTEN to Italy?

GustoBLSJP (talk) 13:03, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Reading your answer...it is crystal clear that you didn't read or understand my reply. I repeat for the last time: you can't delete parts that are well sourced. If you ADD something you are very welcome, but you simply CAN NOT delete parts that are well sourced. I never said that I own the article, you don't understand English, I didn't write it, it has been written by a lot of users in many years. The article does not say that "Italy is the sick man of Europe", but, as YOU are stating too (!!!), it says that IT HAS BEEN CALLED "sick man of Europe", with 2+ sources. This is REALITY, you can't deny reality because you don't like it! And please notice, that YOU are saying the same thing, but probably your low level of English does not allow yo to understand. So please, stop talking about grammar, because your level of English is very low compared to the level of the Economy section (not mine). You should write "You ARE still calling me a vandal", don't forget the verbs. For the rest, do whatever you want, if you don't have a life, and if you want to waste your time in stupid flames, but I would never go to the Brazil page with such stupid flames insulting and insisting in denying issues...that you clearly don't know, even without reading the sources, about a country 8,500 km far away from you. Now I'm very tired of you, I'm not replying anymore.

I tell you before, take it easy. At no way i accused you, at any time, and you attack me personally several times. It seems that you don't accept the mistakes and don't deserve my help. I have plenty of time. Wikipedia is a free and open encyclopedia. Read this: Wikipedia:Avoid the word "vandal"

GustoBLSJP (talk) 15:12, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Don't bite Conte di Cavour, I'm sure you can help Gusto civilly here. New editors often need a bit of help getting acclimated to Wikipedia. Prodego talk 20:07, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I ask you, please, to delete the talk we had here. Thank you, if you do. GustoBLSJP (talk) 01:23, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Conte di Cavour. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. CrimsonBlack 15:09, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

I am GustoBLSJP. CrimsonSabbath (talk) 23:07, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Conduct regarding User:CrimsonSabbath[edit]

Hi, this is a follow-up to the discussion at Wikiquette alerts regarding the edit conflict at Italy and User:CrimsonSabbath. You argued that CrimsonSabbath should not be removing material simply because he does not like it. You are absolutely correct. However, please be aware that disruptive editing and stubbornness are not considered vandalism. Also, please keep a cool head in discussions and avoid uncivil actions such as shouting and swearing. Thank you for your edits and I hope you'll continue to improve Italy-related articles here on Wikipedia. Guoguo12--Talk--  23:55, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I certainly will follow your right recommendations.--Conte di Cavour (talk) 12:54, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Italian-Americans[edit]

Whoops, sorry. Carry on... Zeng8r (talk) 22:47, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Monte Bianco or Mont Blanc[edit]

Hello Conte di Cavour, I would appreciate if you could give your opinion on the following subject: Should we use Monte Bianco, Mont Blanc or both in the main article about Italy? If you can please let me know what you think here. Regards, Paulista01 (talk) 17:28, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Paulista, thank you for the consideration. Even if I'm Italian myself, I would say that we unfortunately should use the French word "Mont Blanc", because it is also the English and international version of the name. Regards.

--Conte di Cavour (talk) 17:35, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Conte di Cavour. I disagree, it is not the "international" version, what is the "international version"? Are we talking about Esperanto? But anyways, I am done, I just wanted to improve the article. I am not trying to please the editors of Wikipedia, it seems that most of the time we are trying to please "egos" and not the ultimate user. I believe we should try to please the readers, they are going to look at their Italian guides (published in English - like the DK Italian Guide) trying to find the Mont Blanc, they will not find it, most modern books about Italy use Monte Bianco. I give up, but I still believe it is the wrong choice. Thanks for your opinion. Regards, Paulista01 (talk) 20:30, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Italy[edit]

I think you'd better support your changes with better arguments (WP:PRETTY). You've also added some mistakes and ignored bad refs, which I'm trying to fix while you editwar. It is also customary to leave an edit summary, which you have consistently avoided. The mayor of Yurp (talk) 14:43, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Dear Conte di Cavour[edit]

Dear Conte di Cavour,

it is a long time since we last spoke, but I wanted to pop by and say hello (just before you question who I am, it's user:Theologiae)

I took a long break from Wikipedia, having realised several things. I was very busy with my personal life, but when I started editing the encyclopaedia back in 2009 I was very, very young. The main reason behind my several contributions Italy and relating articles was because, having browsed through them years before, I realised how lacking in information and life they were. In comparison to other WikiProjects, such as France and Germany, Italy fell as flat as a pancake - very few FACs and GAs, as well as the very slow update of information. Looking at archives, if I remember, you were the one who, back in 2006/07, 're-wrote' all the articles and brought a lot of life back to the project, alongside several other valued editors. I wanted to do the same, to some extent. Being very young, I didn't know all the Wikipedia policies on MOS and editing style, but I grew to learn them. My aim was to get the Italy wikiproject back to thinking - a rejuvenation, let us say. I wanted editors to talk, discuss and improve. I maybe was a bit too bold, but I feel that, for better or for worse, I did do, to some extent, what you managed to achieve back then - being a hectic time in life, many edits were rushed, but I started 127 different articles and proposed new ideas.

I realise that maybe, back then, you saw me as a bit of a 'disruption' to your work - I re-wrote the articles, changed the pics, etc. I was a bit over-enthusiastic, don't get me wrong. But now that time has passed, I would like to see such edits in a favourable light, as well as our many discussions, which only improved the Italy wikiproject.

Now, I don't work on Italy-related pages as much. I felt I achieved my aims, and that, whilst there still is a lot of work to do, it could be dealt with by more experienced editors such as you. Hence, nowadays I work mostly in the fields of arts, music, contemporary affairs, culture and different countries. However, I am in the process of finishing a long article on Culture of Naples, which I've spent ages on looking for sources, getting information and pictures.

Before we end, however, I would like to award you something you've deserved for a long time:


BoNM - Italy.png Italian Barnstar of National Merit
Awarded for contribution to WikiProject Italy, and for your quintessential contributions to everything Italian by &レア (talk) 16:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC)


--&レア (talk) 16:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC) (that's my new signature)

Milan[edit]

Potresti per favore evitare di cancellare ogni volta la tabella con i paesi di provenienza della popolazione di Milano? Non capisco perché essere tanto ostili ad un'informazione tabulata che si trova in tutte le voci sulle grandi città mondiali. Inoltre quando si fanno modifiche così radicali su una voce così importante sarebbe meglio discuterne prima sulla talk page. Grazie. --Ita140188 (talk) 20:45, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Season's Greetings[edit]

Candle.jpg May you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
It's the festive time of the year, and I wish you a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! If you do not celebrate Christmas, may it be a peaceful time for you, and may the New Year bring you new hopes and good luck. Season's Greetings --&レア (talk) 18:07, 22 December 2011 (UTC)|}

We need to talk[edit]

Hello Conte di Cavour. First of all congratulations for this important name. We have problems with some users which add false infos in the article Sicily and replace new photos with old ones in the article Italy. Help me when you have time. --93.32.133.101 (talk) 19:33, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

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3rr - Italy[edit]

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And don't label edits you don't agree with as vandalism. You don't WP:OWN the article! — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 15:54, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Dear Enok, actually you are (on a daily basis, and massively) reverting all my edits, thus practicing a form of vandalism or, at the very least, disruptive editing. Since there are no apparent reasons for your behaviour, it would appear that you are taking it personal.--Conte di Cavour (talk) 21:07, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

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