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Thampalakamam Divisional Secretariat[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Thirumurugan Gandhi[edit]

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Hi CuCl2, and thanks for your message. The article has not been deleted, it has been proposed to be deleted. Wikipedia has a very strong policy about biographies of living people. I've searched for Thirumurugan Gandhi and can find very little about him and/or the "May 17 movement" in English, Tamil, or Sinhala. Could you possibly add more references from reliable sources?
Peter in Australia aka --Shirt58 (talk) 12:01, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Citation needed tags[edit]

...are never vandalism. There is never any case, whatsoever, in which specific statistical claims do not need citations. Ever. The vast majority of facts on Wikipedia need citations, but there is no doubt that statistical claims need them. Now, I agree that Blacknight shouldn't be moving the sections of the article around, but there is nothing wrong with them adding cn tags; you removing them would be considered disruptive. I have re-added the tag, in fact, adding more.

In addition, please do re-read WP:VANDAL; you will see that content disputes are not vandalism, which only refers to actions specifically designed to make WP worse. Calling good faith edits vandalism can be considered a personal attack, so you should not do so. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Andaman Express[edit]

Hello, Thank you for creating the article Andaman Express. However, the article lacks citations and references. Please add the same. Milesandkilometrestogo (talk) 17:37, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Sources[edit]

Just in case you missed the edit summary, you're wrong, again. Adding unreliable sources is always, in every situation, a correct reason for reverting. You cannot add sources that do not meet WP:RS. There really is nothing to "discuss" on the talk page. I suppose, if you want, you can try to argue that those sources are actually reliable...but the burden to do so always rests on the person trying to add the sources. Feel free to make some argument why those sources meet WP:RS...and we can even take the matter to WP:RSN...but you should probably re-read the guideline first, as it should be pretty obvious why they fail. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:00, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I went over each of the sources on my talk page; after review, 3 are absolutely non-RS, but 1 is good. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:58, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

March 2013[edit]

Your recent editing history at Bodhidharma shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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Help[edit]

Sorry to see that you appear to be involved in disputes so early in your Wikicareer.This is a tough neighborhood where you are editing.You can discuss this in Teahouse and they will guide you in a neutral way or here India noticeboard]. Please do not keep reverting leave it for now .Please let me know if you want any help or reference.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Yes before you do more edits, please ask around as to what you want to do and how to follow rules. This is a volunteer project but we have tobe humble enough to realize that rules are there to protect the project. I am willing to help as well. Kanatonian (talk) 16:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
Thank you for the message. If you go through my edit profile, you'd see I did not intend to go on a revert war in any incidence. Anyways now I will only edit after reaching a consensus in the talk page. I very much understand the rules that we have here, and I most intend to be sincere to them all. I approach to be constructive and clear with my edits, thats all. And I' am always open to suggestions and your welcome to point my mistakes out if I have committed some. Thank you.--CuCl2 01:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
Don't get involved in too many articles at once. Please add content with reference at Tamil Buddhism which I created some time back. If someone reverts the sourced content, please mention on the talk page.15:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)Shivaass (talk)

Edit warring[edit]

Copperchloride, just two days ago you said you will not get involved in edit warring and to "only edit after reaching a consensus in the talk page". Contrary to your promise, I see only two edits to a single article talk page during the past two days ([1] & [2]), but you have made several reversions today without any attempt at discussion including [3], [4] & [5]. You are clearly involved in a content dispute on this topic, so you shouldn't go around reverting like this. You have been warned about this by three other editors on this page including an admin. Technically, I should block you at this point for edit warring. The reason I'm not doing that is because I only looked into this matter at the request of another editor (who is one of the editors who you have disagreed with), and I don't want to give you the false impression that I'm taking sides. I'm not going to get involved in the content dispute; I don't have the time to mediate that. My concern is the continued edit warring. If you feel you cannot reach consensus by discussing among yourselves, consider dispute resolution. However, please consider this a final warning; if you continue to edit war, you will be blocked or banned from editing these articles. Chamal TC 18:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

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Tittakudi taluk[edit]

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June 2013 Second warning[edit]

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Edit wars[edit]

Don't do it.--obi2canibetalk contr 15:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Well, at this point I'd like to clarify that I always am open for resolving disputes through dialogue. But the reason for recklessly reverting is the constant irritation I get from the lame attitude these ill-trained Sri Lankan editors show. They bump into any of my edits from nowhere, and then remove/alter everything what I've stated and what is instated already quoting a single line in the lead or so. I have no intention of warring with these people, but consider my reverts it is not cause of disagreement or anything, it is only because these simpletons vandalize a great deal of an article without being able to even communicate what disagreements they have or what wrong does my additions have. If User:Blackknight12 and User:SriSuren's edits go under the scanner, you'll realize my point all along. Every edit/view anybody makes in contradiction with their opinion, they resort to reckless reverting and POV pushing finally trying to create an environment to a point where the others can totally make no contribution to the article. I've just had enough of all my work never getting appreciated. And the reason you may notice I don't go to talk pages more often is I get ignored nor the ill-trained guys barely make sense into them. You may be fully aware of how I get over the edge, perhaps why you have actually bothered to drop in a comment, but you must know the underlying disputes are not ordinary even though my squabbles look spectacularly lame. Thanks nonetheless.--CuCl2 08:23, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
I sympathise, I have been in similar situations many times but edit warring always ends the same way - block. I have seen far too many editors getting blocked because they don't know when to stop. The first step to resolving a dispute is to discuss with the other editor(s). You have already done this. If the dispute is still not resolved try WP:DRN. And if that doesn't work, walk away. Getting blocked undoes all the good work you've done. And please remember Wikipedia's three core content polices - WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:OR - if you follow these the Wikipedia community will always support you.--obi2canibetalk contr 14:42, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
Its only sheer indiscipline from this lot that is the cause for this. Either they don't want to commence dialogue, or push their POV even in the Talk Pages and when both fail they start sneaking on my edits all over or make cock and bull story about me 'hindering' their 'constructive' vandalism. Anyways, any significant case from here on, I do certainly see ANI and DRN as the only scope for solution as no reasoning can ever do with the cheap attitude they present here. Thank you again, I will do try to exercise more discretion from here on. :) --CuCl2 16:51, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

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July 2013[edit]

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Uh, you know it's supposed to be "chloride", right? I suggest you either a) make a request to have your username changed, or b) put up a notice on your userpage that says "yes, I know it's supposed to be 'chloride'; I spelled it this way deliberately". DS (talk) 13:48, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

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July 2013[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Tamilakam. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. You've been warned several times before to discuss you're making edits on the boundaries etc; the thread is there on the Talk Page, with contributions by several editors; you're the only one eluding this discussion. Next stop is ANI. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 09:33, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

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Appreciation[edit]

Thanks for your appreciation. I think you also should have a look at my edits at Indian religions, for example [7]. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:54, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Your the most welcome. I'm less knowledgeable on religion-related articles, especially the Vedic Hinduism. I'm more interested in linguistic and cultural evolution that has taken place over the years, in South Asia and China; also somewhat involved in political and geographical articles. Anyway its always nice to have a non-Indian taking interest(While Majority of us do not) in South Asian religions and affinities, it'll be sometimes bizarre, certain stuff as you come across them, what we do and used to do. --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 12:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
I try to be fair in my edits. So, I'm critical about Tamil nationalism, but I'm also critical about Neo-Vedantins who try to erase the influence of Dravidian culture. And yes, editing on India-related articles is quite different from Buddhism-related articles. Muuuuuuuuuuuuch more disputes... Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:14, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
'Tamil Nationalism' is a matter of how you perceive it. We in mainland India do not care for even studying the traditional dialects properly cause we have equality and our rights as a population have been protected with. This often tends to be the thumb rule for all ethnic groups here, except for probably the Kashmirirs and the North-Eastern population who are an religious and ethnic minority(whose rights have been infringed in the past). But in Sri Lanka, as a unitary state, Tamils as a community was systematically defranchised and destroyed to the extent of a genocide that has totally blacked us out on our own lands we have inhabited since time unknown. Neo-Vedantins are same as the Hindi chauvinists and the pro-Sri Lankan editors I find here, whose greater motives would lie upon disempowering Tamils and other minorities(and their culture, history, tradition and cause) to the wider masses. Anyhow, wish you Good luck with your edits, not many actually tend to be interested. We have had great civilizations and regal ancestries only to become uncivilized,corrupt and immoral standing where we are today while progress and development rest upon the other hand.Greetings.--CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 18:44, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

3 revert rule and your disruptive behaviour and Chelvadurai Manogaran and Vatteluttu and Kuccaveli inscription[edit]

On what grounds are you reverting my edit?

What are the credentials of Chelvadurai Manogaran? Is he an epigraphist or a linguist for his political pamphlet called "Untold story of ancient Tamils in Sri Lanka" to be used as a reference for a this and not the one given in Epigraphica Zeylanica Epigraphica Zeylanica III; pp. 158 - 163? Manogaran is also claiming that the Brahmi script used all over India is derived from Vatteluttu, which is not acceptable, as Vatteluttu first apears around the 5th-6th century (See Mahadevan Tamil Epigraphy for example). Can this script be used to write Sanskrit? Please learn some basics before reverting and editing these articles.

While the reference was clearly given in my previous edit summary at 22:36, 23 July 2013 - "Monogaran is not a reliable source for this. This inscription is in Sanskrit. See Epigraphica Zeylanica III 158 - 163. Vatteluttu cannot be used for Sanskrit".

You reverted my edit with this summary " Oh did you? I didn't see it in SOURCES. like the one you removed. Show some discretion please" at 14:22, 24 July 2013

What exactly do u want references for, when this inscription is not in Vatteluttu and is not even Tamil!! What does this inscription have to do with this article at all? I have given the reference in my edit summary for the reason to remove it. Manogaran is not an epigraphist or a linguist or an historian of any kind to accept his deciphering over the one given in my reference. Does any known epigraphist cite him even? WP:RELY, WP:SCHOLARSHIP

This is what Edward Müller writes about the Kuccaveli inscription in his "Ancient Inscriptions in Ceylon":

"Kucchawelli, 22 miles north of Trincomalee, on the sea side. There is a solitary rock inscription close to the sea which bears a fragment of an inscription in the characters of the seveth century. The country is now inhabited almost exclusively by Tamils, but that time must have been Sinhalese, as we can see not from this incription but also from the remains of a buddhist temple found at at Nattana kovil, about three miles west Nilawelli (8 miles from Trincomalee), and close to the bund of the Periyankulam tank. One or two other places north of Kuccawelli which are also said to contain buddistical remains, I was unfortunately not able to visit".

This is a screenshot of the text and reading from Epigraphica Zeylanica, Vol III. Does it sound Tamil?

Political pamplets like the one written by Manogaran is hardly a reliable source for this. If u revert my edit again, without giving references from an acknowledged scholar in the subject matter, I'll take this to ANI, because this is not the only instance you keep reverting without reason. You are deliberating trying to prevent information getting in, when u know that this Manogaran character is not a scholar in the field, and you have been given references as to why Manoharan's claims have no scholarly backing. You already have an issue at ANI. Your editing pattern and the arguments you throw around in each and every comment you make, without any scholarly backing, is distrupting articles getting developed. The latest of your absurd statements is:

"it is well and widely known Sanksrit borrowed its fundamental script and grammar from Tamil language"

I am posting this here, as a warning as its required by wikipolicies that the editor has to be warned about breaking the 3 revert rule. So, please give references from a third party scholar in the field that this inscription is in Vatelluttu, without throwing in irrelvant absurd claims, such as the above absurd one about Sanskrit. SriSuren (talk) 21:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Stop your disruptive editing and abuse of warning templates[edit]

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Please stop your disruptive editing. WP:DISRUPT. Do not revert without reason (WP:RV) and do not add fake references to articles to support your fake claims and then keep on reverting, as you did in the Maldives article. Also do not abuse the warning templates.

Please adhere by guidelines for citing, and add only references relevant to the sentence immediately preceding the point at which your are inserting the citation. This reference of a list of names does not support this sentence - "None of these names is mentioned in any literature, but classical Sanskrit texts dating back to the Vedic period mention the "Hundred Thousand Islands" (Lakshadweepa), a generic name which would include not only the Maldives, but also the Laccadives, Aminidivi Islands, Minicoy and the Chagos island groups.". A list of names does not support the above sentence. (But its a good link for information on present day names for Maldives in different languages.(WP:CITE).

Your reference is fake as I have proven with links to the book in your warning to me at my talk page.

You are exibiting an extreme case of disruptive editing. You give fake references and revert and ask other editors to prove it wrong, knowing very well that the reference is fake, and constantly avoid adhering to proper citing according to the citing guidelines, as you have done in other articles and talk pages too. This is all disrupting editing and I soon will report you at ANI, since it doesn't seem that you are going to change your behaviour. SriSuren (talk) 09:06, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

To CopperChloride, You had deleted this warning and the my comments. You cannot do it, since it is part of an ongoing dispute, which is also discussed in my talkpage. Whether this is justified or not is not for you to judge, but has to be handled by other editors/Administrators. SriSuren (talk) 10:50, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Please move it to the article's talk page(we cannot get a third opinion over here) and put forth your views.--CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 11:24, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
As the current status of the discussion at the talkpage shows, you have been trying to pass off a simple list of words as your sole source for the derivation of Maladvipa and you have been edit warring, and misused the warning template. When you saw that you have been exposed, you simply stopped answering in the discussion you started and have begun editing other articles - in the Tamilakam article you have added the same disputed content again!!. If you do anymore edits in any other article without stating your present view in the discussion you yourself opened in the Maldives talkpage thereby deliberately prolonging the dispute and putting the article on hold, I will remove your edits there, and take you to ANI, since you are disrupting editing across many articles, by trying to insert your own original research and exhibiting the same kind of behaviour. (You have had 4+ days to answer). You have been warned several times by other editors, including an administrator on this issue. NB!! This is also a warning on the 3 revert rule (you have already broken it by reverting my and other editors edits 5 times in 24.5 hours) and also a warning against removing sourced material from the article. SriSuren (talk) 20:43, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

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Requesting the page numbers[edit]

Please be kind enough to give the relevant page numbers of the following books, which sourced the information that you have recently added to the article Tamilakam.

  1. Manokaran - "The Untold Story of Ancient Tamils in Sri Lanka"
  2. C. Rasanayagam - "Ancient Jaffna"
  3. John Watson McCrindle - "Ancient India as Described by Ptolemy: Being a Translation of the Chapters"

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Wiki-break[edit]

Hi CuCl2. I'm taking a Wiki-break; one of the reasons is the stress I get from editing at India-related articles, for example on the history of Hinduism and the contribution of Dravidian culture to Hinduism. It seems that India-related articles contain a great deal of "narratives" instead of "facts", and arouse a lot of emotions. Ironically, given the popular image (in the west) of India as a spiritual country where enlightenment and "true spirituality" can be found at the corner of the street, thanks to the transcendentalists and Vivekananda. Wish you all the best, and take care of your own emotions when editing (hear, hear, daddy is preaching...). Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

User:Joshua Jonathan, Thank you for your words, most of these Indian theories conceptualized and worded in a very one-sided basis. Conflict of Interest is an absolute commonplace, and staying neutral is possibly the best means to address such issues and bring-about compromise. I'am no religion-buff myself(and I don't think, I'd develop some interest too), so sadly I won't be able to really see through the pages you have mentioned, and be able to assist dialogue. India WAS a spiritual country, where different cultures co-existed and confluenced across South Asia. But that was long before colonization, that threw up new nations on ethnic and religious basis. From that point onwards, things have never been the same, there are suppressed nations every nook and corner, the Balochs in Pakistan, the Kashmiris and the North-Eastern tribes in India, the Hindus of Bangladesh and of course the Tamils of Sri Lanka(something we have dealt with mutually). Its easy to understand your position, but once you realize how India or Sri Lanka does not broadly define a nation and how numerous individual nations and cultures exist within them, then you would see why such an extent of conflict of Interest arises, and maybe then you won't feel so burdened perhaps. So just get over the reluctance, and resume editing soon mate, for you will be amazed by the things you learn and the experience would really leave you enthralled.--CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 13:45, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for your encouragement, and for providing some explanation. I've still got RSI, though, so my appearances will be limited. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:42, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

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i have been an issued a warning regarding my edits on the page Seeman (director) though i have provided valid citations for the same.your edits seem against the Union of India and inclined towards seperatist Ideologies — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arlok2005talkcontribs) 09:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Reply User talk:Arlok2005, your last two revisions 1 and 2 at the article has interfered with substantial amount of referenced content, without commencing any discussion on the talk page. This constitutes vandalism which is against Wikipedia's policies, for which you could be blocked from editing the article altogether. Furthermore the credibility of your previous edits such as 3 and 4 are highly questionable, as you seem to have only inserted obvious nonsense into the page. Your edits clearly violate WP:LIVING and WP:BLP.Kindly refrain from making such edits in the future if you intend to continue in the project and avoid being blocked from it. Greetings. --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 12:14, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi CuCl2 and Arlok2005. I'm not going to interferere with the content of your dispute, but I do notice a few things regarding the tone of your dispute:
  • As you've both reverted each others edits several times, it looks to me like you're both edit-warring;
  • Branding the other's behaviour "vandalism" won't further the discussion, on the contrary;
  • None of you has started a discussion yet at the Talk Page. Go ahead!
Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:29, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Reply to JJ, User:Joshua Jonathan The nature of his edits are not merely disruptive but fundamentally vandalism. Arlok has removed content that does not please his POV citing nonsensical excuses like 'terrorism' and 'Union of India' etc. which is an intolerable behavior here at Wikipedia. Since He was the one who had removed all of/a large portion of edits unwarranted for, without citing proper explanation, I have had his edits reverted and he had been warned. Unless, you get a reasonable explanation from him on the 4 edits I have mentioned above, there is no point calling this edit-warring as its a clear-cut case of vandalism. He is apparently new, and He needs to familiarize himself with the Core Policies(or look closer at his edits, perhaps you may see he is just another POV Pusher who is good to kick the bucket from the project), I reckon you understand. Anyways, Thanks for stopping by. Greetings, --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 13:44, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
You need to familiarize yourself with our policies before you call something vandalism. While I haven't yet looked at the entire revert, part of it was removing a copyright violation, another part of it was removing a BLP violation. Such removals do not constitute vandalism, and edit warring to include it in can result in a block. —SpacemanSpiff 18:40, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

October 2013[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 2 days for edit warring, personal attacks], and generally disruptive editing. You've been told very clearly before that you can't call good faith edits vandalism. Given the time you've been here, you must understand (or should understand) copyright rules, and should know that removing copyrighted info/images is not only "not vandalism"--it's actually absolutely mandatory; reverting to re-include a copyvio is aboslutely unacceptable. Your attitude, overall, has not improved in the long time you've been here--you bascially go around asserting that people who's edits you disagree with are vandalism, which is wrong, especially when you're flat out wrong about the underlying policies. This has to stop--your actions are directly harming the encyclopedia, as you did at Seeman (director). Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the following text below this notice: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  Qwyrxian (talk) 22:34, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
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Request reason:

It seems that I have been blocked by User:Qwyrxian, for disruptive editing and personal attacks but has not clarified with any evidence on how I'am liable for either of these offences. The basis of posting the warning template at User:Arlok2005's talk page was preceded by not just his reverts of the content I had added but rather two of his edits that 1 and 2 which clearly constitute vandalism. The admins those involved in my block are welcome to prove otherwise.
  • Also Nowhere has User Arlok or anybody else had specified anything of the copyvio in place, something I had not been made aware of till this block. Arlok simply removed content that did not suit his prerogative, and his edit summaries were nonsensical personal attacks. Refer to his earlier revisions here: 3, 4, 5. Nowhere has he initiated any discussion in the article's talk page giving explanation for his wholesale blanking of referenced content, nor has he given any solid counter-proof to the tone with which I had written the section. User:Qwyrixian, had he been ethical enough, would not be blind to this fact.
  • I have neither exceeded the 3RR to be blocked for edit warring, but I had only reverted him twice. Once, when he entirely blanked the 2011 Anti Congress Campaign section calling it 'Anti-Indian' and then once again when he hijacked the same section and more content(regarding the person's 2013 trip to Europe) citing 'photos of a terrorist' in his edit summary. Nowhere has he only just removed the content that contained these 'violations'(not that anybody saw him give a hint either) that I'am accused of edit warring to re-insert, but all his edits aimed at blanking referenced content and then defaming the person in the first two links I have mentioned.
  • As for Personal attacks, being the second reason for my block; it is really very funny especially since my talk page was at the receiving end of things I'am supposed to be blocked for.

    "your edits seem against the Union of India and inclined towards seperatist Ideologies."

I think I have made my stand clear. CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 11:43, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Decline reason:

Try again without the incorrect allegations of vandalism. --jpgordon::==( o ) 01:13, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Please go read WP:VANDAL--you'll notice that it explicitly states that POV pushing is not vandalism. Neither, in fact, is edit warring. Vandalism means editing Wikipedia with the intent of making it worse, or spamming. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:07, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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Please go through his edits 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 I have numbered. And then my reverts.(I have highlighted everything for you. So Pretension is for escape artists). In his 5 edits or more, He has removed significant parts of the page's referenced content(2011 Anti-Congress Campaigns on both instances), for which I had reverted twice on the grounds of WP:TW. Then he has clearly spammed the first two edits(comedian) and then he had fiddled with the date of birth, and religious views without any proof. Having some knowledge on the relevant person would make it clear that person is neither a comedian or a christian. Why are you pretending to ignore the wholesale blanking that he has done to the article over and over? My warning was clearly legitimate.

And since you choose to remain mum on the points I have raised over my block, let me put forth them to you once again:

1. I had only reverted his edits twice. And I have clearly explained why both stand justified. How does my case constitute edit warring for which I have been blocked?

2. The copyrighted image was on both Commons(and on another article Naam Tamilar Katchi for over a year or more since the last revision today), NOWHERE HAD I RE-INSERTED IT AFTER SOMEBODY LIKE User:SpacemanSpiff REMOVED IT AFTER DULY EXPLAINING EVERYTHING. Arlok simply blanked just about everything he pleased. It would be pretty much obvious to you. So the real reason of my block stands unclear.

3.'Personal attacks', 'Attitude' etc. PLEASE PROVE WITH EVIDENCE. These are just opinionated and baseless accusations(just as the block) otherwise.--CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 15:32, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Again, those are not vandalism--they're POV pushing. And it is a rule that you call bad behavior what it is; calling something vandalism when it is not is a personal attack.
On the copyvio, I see that you were unaware of the copyright problem at the time, and so it is not a legitimate reason for a block.
Are you willing to commit to stop using the term "Vandal" and "vandalism" to describe others' edits? If you are, I am willing to unblock you. I know that it sucks to deal with POV pushing and bad faith editing, but we have to do it in the right way. Qwyrxian (talk) 23:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi CuCl2. When you're unblocked, start using the Talk Page. You can make a list of problems, as you know. And you can ask for third opinions. And don't forget to take a deep breath and count to ten, once in a while. It helps. Best wishes, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:49, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

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Regarding Ravana[edit]

Try Talk what you know and write what you REALLY know,Don't be Biased towards an Ethnicity-It shows someones Stupidity and Narrow Mindedness.Wikipedia should attempt to achieve neutrality Not advance the bias of sources,I will No longer Edit Ravana You can Edit as You Wish :)
Keep In Mind that Ravana was NOT a Sinhalese NOR Tamil,Just a Mythical Figure,Now Assume to be of a Hela Tribe.
Regards.MediaJet talk 19:44, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

Another instance of calling an edit "vandalism". The issue seems to have been extensively discussed at Talk:Ravana#Ravana Sri Lanka and Sinahalese , neutrality, Talk:Ravana#Ravana/Ravanan was a Tamil Saivaite Emperor and Talk:Ravana#Hindustan times as reliable source. It seems to me that you've got a point at a Tamil origin for Ravana, yet the sources you've provided are dubious, and the label "vandalism" is working against you. Please try to be carefull; I fear you're going to face more blocks when you keep on editing this way. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:36, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
User:MediaJet, deep down the page history exists a greater tale of stupidity and narrow-mindedness from your countrymen. We had a certain editor User:Himesh84 who erased the Tamil translation of Ravanan's name, having cited a Hindustan Times(which recently lost face among Indian public) Journal that calls Ravanan a Lankan ruler. Even till date his IP minions are at work in various articles. Why I reverted your edit? You tampered with what the source had said(that he was a 'Tamil Saivate' Emperor) nevertheless the nature of the source. Himesh used to do the same thing. If Ravanan was mythical, how come it is right to assume he belonged to the Hela tribe? The Ramayan(which Valmiki composed centuries before Prince Vijaya landed in Lanka) talks of him being a worshipper of Shiva. And you know Shaivaism was(and continues to be) the predominant religious cult of Tamils, and specifically the Sri Lankan Tamils. So there is a clear possible connection regarding Ravanan being a Tamil King, and you shouldn't have removed that connection especially since you did not alter the sources. If you could reason out, like JJ has done, that Ravanan might have been a Sinhalese too, I would have not stopped you for sure. --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 13:21, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
User:Joshua Jonathan, mate, the point is one thing, then there are those IPs that come after the article, blanking/replacing the 'Tamil' with 'Sinhalese/Hela' etc.(exhibiting zero respect to discussions) even with my sources on however dubious they may seem to be. Previously, at the discussions that prevailed, the Sinhalese editors were totally against any form of assumptions, i.e that is to project either of the assumptions, hell-bent on certifying with even more dubious references that he was a Sinhalese. Though my edits often appear to be on a pro-Tamil note, the Kamba Ramayanam which was authored to give a more neutral perspective of the Ramayana, indeed does label Ravanan as a Tamil and a Saivaite Monarch(This I find will never be accepted by Himesh or MediaJet, who will continually try to project him a mythical figure and me someone trying to Tamilize him. But deeper down, they want to mowdown the Sri Lankan Tamil history which is their only intention just as how they contend in Tamilakam, Vatteluttu alphabet etc.). It is just that I do not have more convincing sources in hand. That would anyway, be a lengthy heck of a discussion to behold. It would be absolutely bizarre to dismiss a possible Tamil ethnicity to Ravanan. You will see for yourself how your edits would be tampered with. --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 13:21, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Hey CuCl2, I know, I've already had my share on one-sided edits. Good reason to do good research, and back-up your edits with references and reliable sources. Take care, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:26, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Sure thing :), there is quite a lot of temperament I need to learn but I will always try o improve, and be in sight for mature ways to handle disputes. The problem is often not the nature of the issue(as you may tend to think), but the nature and behavior of those of the conflicting editors who pose the real issue to overcome. --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 13:57, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Copperchloride, "If Ravanan was mythical, how come it is right to assume he belonged to the Hela tribe?" The same irrational argument is going on Naga people (Lanka).Shivaass (talk) 17:09, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Regarding the Naga People, Here are a few excerpts of Dr BR Ambedkar(who was also an anthropologist and a respected historian).:
I'am not sure how to incorporate this if possible, but its a MUST-READ regarding the topic.--CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 18:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
MUST read?!? More homework to do! Buttu.... he was of course also a social activist, so take care before reaching conclusions. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:34, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
Extra homework? Perhaps yes! But the theory he proposes and those others like him, surely need a reckoning with, if WP:NPOV had some meaning! If the 'extinct' Nagas in India are accepted(here by a non Tamil academic) as ancestors of Tamil/Dravidian people, why are the Naga People who lived in Lanka and followed the same customs(for example, snake-worship) and who were witnessed and reported by a Sinhalese epic Mahavamsa itself, become a 'mythical' community? --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 18:04, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
So, I've done my homework and read the pages (well, the second page I glossed through). What I see is statements, but not arguments. It's also not clear where these articles were originally published. So I don't think they count as reliable sources for Wikipedi. The best you can make of it is that 'according to Ambedkar "ancient people in all of India, (North India and South India) were all Tamil speaking Dravidians before the advent of Aryans."' A statement which will probably attract other rounds of discussions... See Languages of India. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 20:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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pertaining to the page on Seeman and Copper Chloride's defence for the same[edit]

Since i wasnt able to come online for a week or so,i was unaware of the blocking of CopperChloridecopper chloride and his barrage of allegations based on technicalities against me and my edits..But none the less..my issue with the articleSeeman still remains.My point is now restricted to his name being Sebastian Seeman.His name has existed as Sebastian Seeman for a long duration on wiki until an edit recently and our friend Copper chloride continues to argue that his name is Senthamizhan Seeman,without providing due citations for the same,leading me to doubt whether there is an agenda at hand.I once again provide a source [1] which should end the dispute regarding the guy's name as i believe that The Hindu is known for its credibility and also there has been no citation to show that his name is indeed Sentamizhan Seeman.So this should put the dispute to rest.I was wondering whether id be permitted to continue my edit on the page(pertaining only to the name and religion aspect)

P.S.My points are based on the reliability of the citation and not on technicalities Arlok2005 (talk) 18:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Arlok2005, please take those comments to Talk: Seeman (director), though please leave out the attacks directed at Copperchloride. You may have a point on the name (I have absolutely no idea), but there were very legitimate reasons for CuCl2's reverts of your edits, especially because you didn't leave any edit summaries or other explanations for what you were doing--and you did a lot more than change the person's name. So please, civilly take the matter for discussion to the article's talk page. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

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Jaffna / Naga People[edit]

The book is "Rasanayagam, C. (1926), Ancient Jaffna, Asian Educational Services (1993 reprint)". NB: according to Rasanayagam, the nagas were not Tamils. He does not say so explicitly, but mentions the Nagas and the Tamils as distinct groups. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:07, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

PS: Zimmer, in his "Philosophies of India", also mentions the Yaksas and the Nagas, but in their semi-legendary appearances. He writes about Jain and Buddhist iconography, which presumably took over 'centuries-old Yaksa and Naga iconography'. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 06:14, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

This is what the book says[edit]

Got me there! Face-smile.svg Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:47, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Assume good faith[edit]

CuCl2, please, do assume WP:GOODFAITH. Your latest response at Talk:Chola rule in Sri Lanka#Requested move contains assertions which won't help the discussion, and may be seen as breaches of several Wiki-policies:

  • WP:HAR:
  • "his disruptive editing"
  • WP:AGF:
  • "reflects no good faith"
  • WP:NPA:
    • "[reflects no] self-respect"
    • "their incompetence"
    • "lack of deserving to be a part of the project"

Please take care of your responses, and avoid WP:BATTLEGROUND. Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip, but I can give you instances of Personal Attacks and Badmouthing from these guys. On one hand, they seem to be totally against engaging in any form of discussion, being worse than parrots in repeating their POV again and again. Though they try to make it seem like they can't reach a solution with me, just go through the discussion chronologically, I don't see either of them either respecting(not even giving two heck) or being able to respond either, to what yourself and User:Pharaoh of the Wizards have had to comment. Their idea of discussion is to propagate(and propagate, they try, in a very adamant and haughty tone) their only motive, which is crystal-clear for someone like me who has had multiple encounters with them apart from this one. As for my comment, I stand by everything of what I had mentioned in my comment, with full regards to the given instance. If their edits were to be genuinely of good faith(at least to a certain extent), I'd back them even to hell. But at this point, their actions are barely civil and not worthy of acknowledging it the same. Thanks.--CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 17:00, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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Source on Tamil culture[edit]

Hi. See [11] chapter 13. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 14:01, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, A quality insight indeed. The Tamil Renaissance was way different from that of the general Indian movement. The Indian renaissance itself, was not something on its own but a collection of many such popular movements. Then, communalism which constituted the core of the Indian independence, would destroy the identity of several individual nations by submerging them into Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan. The whole of South Asia is a messed up, entangled land of chaos.--CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 17:52, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
Here's another one. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 12:55, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

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Rameswaram[edit]

Hi, please add referenced content to articles. For such towns like Rameswaram, where there is no exclusive transport system, there is no need for individual sections. Try avoiding subsections when they have not much content beyond one or two lines - it makes navigation and maintainability very difficult. Also, i see the montage has missing prominent landmarks. I am reverting the changes - please discuss in talk page for contentious items. Thanks a lot for your contribution.Ssriram mt (talk) 02:24, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Actually much of the section is referring to the transport system for the Pamban island as a whole, when you are talking of the Pamban Bridge, NH 49 etc. And there were limited references to the town's own bus and train stations within the article. Hence, splitting it seemed to be a viable option. Same goes for the montage, which includes the image of Pamban Sea Link which is not a part of the Rameswaram town itself. There's quite some collision in the article with regard to referring the town Rameswaram with the island as a whole. Best regards.--CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 07:29, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes - but island definition is broken by the bridge primarily. The bridge was primarily constructed to connect to the town Rameswaram and Dhanuskhodi. The points came up during the GA review as well. You can have a new montage, but not without the bridge. The habitation point should be considered IMO.Ssriram mt (talk) 12:52, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam[edit]

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Mawanella massacre[edit]

First of all sorry for not reaching a consensus before making changes in the page. But there are some flaws in the article.

  1. Its actually not a massacre I think its a series of riots so the name of the article should be changed to Mawanella riots.
  2. The article is not written in a nuetral point of view. This is a riot involving two communities and the article is written in a view of only one. Thats why I inserted the tag.
  3. There are still bare URL's as references, they need to be expanded

I understand the strain to create this page but we need to better it,so plz consider my changes.Rameshnta909 (talk) 12:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi there, it is always better to give a detailed explanation on the article's talk page/edit summary when you are making wholesale changes to an article so as to give others an understanding of what you intend to do. I will look into what you have said at the article's talk page. Regards.--CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 13:37, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Mayiladuthurai Mysore Express - Move[edit]

You have moved this page providing no edit summary. Any reasons? --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ)(Support) 21:35, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

The usual convention is to name trains as per the DOWN direction. In this case the 16231 DOWN exp runs from Mayiladuthurai to Mysore, and hence I had replaced the existing page.--CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 15:48, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Well, is that it so hard to provide on edit summary? Fine. Page moves are one sort of thing, which changes the entire identity of the content too. Face-smile.svg Thank you very much! --βα£α(ᶀᶅᶖᵵᵶ)(Support) 19:06, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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Chola rule[edit]

How many times has the title been changed now? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah, I don't know. This is something that I might have missed in a while.--CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 19:31, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

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My bad, it was intended to be a clean-up.--CuCl2 (chat spy acquaint) 19:55, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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