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John Petraliphas

Hello Konstantinos, is there any evidence when exactly Petraliphas was raised to the rank of sebastokrator and sent to Thessaly and Macedonia by Isaac II? Still in 1185 or later? --SJuergen (talk) 21:34, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 13th Light Bomber Squadron

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Venetian Ionian Islands

Thank you for your edits. I really am interested in making this article better. What else do you think it's missing? Concerning history, I don't have many sources about the period after the conquest except for the disestablishment in 1797. I've got some things about plague epidemics in the islands during this period, should I include this? --Marcofran (talk) 09:03, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! Yes, I need your help! I have done something already on administration! --Marcofran (talk) 07:04, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

What do you think now on Administration, is it complete? --Marcofran (talk) 05:46, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Hello!! The article has been improved! I've just included information I found for the Ottoman attacks on Corfu along with other things. I can't find anything on culture; little things and what I've found is not about this period. What do you think of the article now? What more does it need? I've tried to include these information you told me it should unclude, right? --Marcofran (talk) 18:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

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- Dank (push to talk) 18:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Ooh ... also, I like your "archive" image, mind if I use it? - Dank (push to talk) 19:06, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

... I may have stolen it as well. Ed ^{[talk] [majestic titan]} 02:10, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Constantinopolitans

Re: [1]. What do you mean "WP practice"? Was there a discussion about this somewhere? Chesdovi (talk) 15:24, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Maybe, save Constantine some time. The discussion about Constantinople was quite a while back on the Constantinople and Istanbul articles. I am 100% in agreement with Chesdovi on this issue. But Constantine is frustratingly right. In the Wikipedia world the name of Constantinople has been erased all the way back to Byzantine times. As usual, history is erased and rewritten by majority rule on Wikipedia. Even when the majority is wrong. Wikipedia doesn't record history it records the victors' version of history.  Nipsonanomhmata  ^(Talk) 15:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

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Featured Article promotion

	Congratulations!
	Thanks for all the work you did in making Thomas the Slav a Featured Article! Please accept this Epic Barnstar. Your work is much appreciated. – Quadell (talk)

Thanks a lot :) Constantine ✍ 17:43, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

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misunderstanding

Hey,

regarding this I understood what you were doing after I reverted. I wanted to undo myself but you beat me to it :). This is where edit summaries are helpful; we recently had many problems with a user and his socks/Ips who was tirelessly trying to remove any mention of Morocco before the 20th century as if the country had no history. I thought you were him, since he typically removed "history of" categories. --Tachfin (talk) 18:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem :). Cheers, Constantine ✍ 19:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Greek alternative name

Hi, Constantine. It's been a long time since we talked ? How are you ? What are you doing ? What do you think of Talk:Foça#Greek alternative name, Talk:Fethiye#Greek alternative name, Talk:Side#Greek alternative name, Talk:Antalya#Greek alternative name. See you. Takabeg (talk) 08:50, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

P.S. I've asked opinions to Future Perfect at Sunrise (I thought him/her a Greek) and TheDarkLordSeth (I thought him/her a Turkish). I've seen their names in the related pages, and I guess that they are interested in that topic. But a user claimed this was Canvassing. Is this considered as Wikipedia:Canvassing ? Takabeg (talk) 08:59, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

No, it is not canvassing. But the best place to ask for advice on such issues are the Greek & Turkish Wikipedians' noticeboards and the respective WikiProjects, and not individual users. However, Athenean is correct: it was state-sponsored discrimination, and the aim is well-known, to drive the Greeks off the island. A verbatim quote is not necessary, when the facts add up to the same conclusion. The Turkish policy vis-a-vis the Greek islanders there is too well documented and too deliberate to support any other conclusion: [2], [3], [4]. Constantine ✍ 12:06, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll go to WikiProjects. But Renée Hirschon didn't use such term. Council of Europe didn't use such term. Human Rights Watch didn't use such term. Takabeg (talk) 12:23, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Even if "discrimination" is not used, similar terms are, and the Turkish government's measures amount to as much. When a government takes a minority's property, brings in convicted criminals to live among them, denies them their treaty-recognized rights, imposes economic and other restrictions, etc, then it is discrimination and persecution, even if you can find a thousand books to say that this is not. Facts are facts, and we are free to add one and one and state the conclusion without there being a verbatim reference to that effect. Constantine ✍ 12:33, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

• About this comment: in fact, I don't oppose alternative names. But I oppose any ethnocentric approach (Greek, Turkish, Kurdish, Persian etc.). For example Midilli, Sakiz　are under the same situation. I only oppose double standards. See you. Takabeg (talk) 12:51, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Sure, no double standards. But the fact is that in Western culture, many sites in Turkey are familiar under their ancient Greek names, while the reverse is not true with Ottoman names for sites in Greece. Constantine ✍ 13:16, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Thomas the Slav

Congratulations for promoting the article about Thomas the Slav to FA!--Antidiskriminator (talk) 09:51, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Good Article promotion

	You did it again!
	Another round of congratulations are in order for all the work you did in making Solomon (Byzantine general) a certified "Good Article"! (Pictured: victory.) Thank you; your work is much appreciated. All the best, – Quadell (talk) 14:54, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Help with Greek name

Hi Constantine. How are you? I was reading a primary text from the period of the twelfth century which about the reign of the last Armenian king, Gagik II. In it, the author writes that Gagik was given the towns of "Kalon Peghat" and Pizu in exchange for the remaining lands of his kingdom. According to one Armenian historian (Hrach Bartikyan), the name Kalon Peghat (also written Kalon Pegadin) is Greek and translates into "Beautiful Spring/Well". Would you happen to know how that name would be correctly transcribed into Greek? Would it be καλον πηγαδιν? Regards, --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 18:19, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Solomon (Byzantine general)

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Byzantine Empire

There were some changes in the 'Infobox Former Country' within Byzantine Empire article?...just to let you know....--Kebeta (talk) 14:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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Great Famine

I really appreciate that. Well, with a little effort it can be gaed. It's already a dyk candidate.Alexikoua (talk) 21:22, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Frizis

ευχαριστω που συμπληρωσες το αρθρο Greco22 (talk) 10:47, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Ευχαρίστησή μου. Συγχαρητήρια που το ξεκίνησες, ήθελα κι εγώ καιρό τώρα να ξαναγράψω το άρθρο αλλά δεν το έκανα. Θα προσπαθήσω να βρω χρόνο να το συμπληρώσω. Constantine ✍ 10:57, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Settepozzi

Confirm your claims first, before you add or delete material. Deno John Geanakoplos: "Venice and the allied powers was abruptly broken by the important battle of Settepozzi. Between May and July of 1263 66 a Genoese fleet moving southward along..." I never read about a Byzantine contingent, Lane, Hazlitt and the Historia Venetiana of 1595 dont mention a Byzantine contingent. please post your material on here or my talk to confirm. --Daufer (talk)

Seeing as I wrote the article in the first place, I'd expect some more good faith, but anyhow, this is what Geanakoplos says: "a Genoese fleet moving southward along the eastern Peloponnesian coastline towards the Greek-held port of Monemvasia encountered, near the little island of Settepozzi (Spetsai), a Venetian fleet sailing north to Negropont. The allied fleet of thirty-eight galleys and ten saettie (cutters), commanded by three Genoese and a Greek admiral, ..." To me this seems pretty definite. Of course the fleet was mostly Genoese, but a) acc. to Geanakoplos at least (I don't have access to his primary sources) there was a "Greek" (i.e. Byzantine) contingent, and furthermore b) the operation was undertaken along the lines of the Byzantine-Genoese alliance of 1261 and in support of Byzantine operations in the Morea, hence definitely part of the Byzantine wars against the Latins. Constantine ✍ 18:35, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, now it is verfied. Because the Historia Venetiana 1595 doesnt mention the byzantines and so do Lane, Hazlitt, Leo etc. its doubtfull, but verified and added to the article. Dont delete info or sources from the info box, its seperate to the article, thats why it needs all the sources it has. --Daufer (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:14, 20 September 2011 (UTC).

Hafsid flag

I am not sure what you thought you were doing here, but when you have a flag with a horse on it, attributed to the Catalan Atlas, and you simply replace it with a completely different flag with a star and crescent leaving the attribution in place, it should be obvious to anyone that what you end up with is simply a broken article.

You managed to do this without as much as giving a brief edit summary, so I have a little difficulty to imagine what prompted you to do this. --dab (𒁳) 07:32, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello! The crescent flag seemed more accurate in light of the sources referenced. I did not use an edit summary, nor did I change the caption, which was an error. I cannot remember why I didn't, but I apologize for the sloppy editing. Constantine ✍ 10:44, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

what do you think?

καλησπερα! πιστευεις θα ειχε ενδιαφερον ενα αρθρο "anti-hellenism" ή "anti-greek sentiment" στα προτυπα των αλλων χωρων? Greco22 (talk) 20:15, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Church of St. George of Samatya

Hallo Constantine

I hope that you are well! If you have time, can you please have a look here? Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 08:12, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Church of Saint Menas of Samatya

Hallo Constantine

Armenia - Greece is now 1 - 1 :-) Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 10:08, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Jovan Vladimir/archive2

You might be interested in this one, since the Byzantine Empire is involved. - Dank (push to talk) 18:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

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Nice to see you around

I won't just say back, as "back" is a bit too absolute when one deals with state-sponsored holidays. But it appears that you have accessed some computer there or been given a leave. In either case nice to see you around Kostas. :) Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 15:37, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. The yearning is strong to see what is going on here, but alas my absence is not voluntary... I do hope to manage more regular appearances by December though. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 15:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Looking forward to that. Take care. Dr.K. ^{λogosπraxis} 05:57, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

peripheral units

Hi, I suppose your recent moves indicate that you favour "regional unit" over the other options "subregion" and "regional division"? Fine with me, I didn't see any other replies on my question on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Greece. Markussep ^Talk 08:52, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Quite so. I have come over to the view that "region" is the best translation, not least because it seems to be the term mostly preferred by the Greek government itself. Constantine ✍ 15:08, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Basil II

Hi Constantine,

There seems to be a campaign to give Basil II undoubted Armenian ancestry. I have replaced the sentence referencing Psellus (I can find no reference to Basil's ancestry in Psellus at all). I have given Basil Is uncertain ancestry as possibly Armenian, Slavic or Greek. I have also pointed out that Basil II's biological ancestry probably goes back to Michael III rather than Basil I, with a mention of the Anatolian Greek origins of Michael IIIs family.

Probably worth keeping an eye on this situation.

Regards,

Urselius (talk) 10:45, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

I also note that Basil I has now been given unequivocal Armenian ancestry despite his origins being from a very humble peasant family from Thrace. Thrace at the time had Slav, Greek and Armenian inhabitants, with Armenians being mostly settled on the borders especially around Philipoppolis. After he became emperor Basil I was given an ancestry to the Arsacids, Constantine The Great and Alexander the Great. The Armenian Arsacid claim has no more credibility than the others, and all of them were just a confection intended to flatter. The claim for Armenian origins has references which I don't have, so cannot check but contemporary Arab commentry called Basil "the Sclavonian" not "the Armenian," and as the Arabs were outsiders and not subject to pressure to flatter their description should carry more weight.Urselius (talk) 12:10, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Odalar mosque & Paspates

Hallo Constantine

I hope that everything is going well for you in the military service, and that they did not send you on the Evros. :-) I need a favour, but not urgent. I just wrote an article about the Odalar Mosque in Istanbul, and I know that a drawing of the building exists in the work of Paspates. Unfortunately this has not been uploaded in commons. If /when you have time, can you reach the uploader of Paspates (he is a Greek Wikipedian) and gently ask him if it is possible for him to upload the engraving of the mosque on commons under Category:Byzantinai meletai topographikai? Thanks, Alex2006 (talk) 11:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello Alex! Nice work with all the new articles on the church-mosques! I think, based on the Greek article which probably quotes Paspates verbatim, that the Odalar Mosque is the one identified by Paspates (erroneously, as with so much else) with the Isakapi Mosque (temenos tes pyles tou Iesou in Greek). I've added the relevant image. I'll double-check it in a few days, as soon as my military duties permit ;) The minaret does seem awfully similar on both images though. BTW, Paspates (again, based on the Greek article) says that Kemankeş Mustafa Pasha was also buried in the courtyard of this mosque. Can you verify this? Constantine ✍ 16:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello Costas,

thanks a lot for your copyediting! Yes, I wrote three articles (I was in the city three weeks ago, since a friend of us from Rome 50% Greek (Acaia) came for the first time to see Istanbul, so I organised a byzantine - orthodox tour for him and his wife), and I am running out of churches :-) No, I think that the Isakapi of Paspates shows really the Isakapi. I have a picture of the Odalar from Paspates in the book of Westphalen, and the minaret is even uglier than by the Isakapi :-) Moreover, on my picture there are two people, and the roof of the building is flat, and far away you can distinguish a tiny part of the golden horn, so everything coincides... How is going the service? Did they send you to defend Kastellorizon against the Turks? :-) I will check about the great vizier. Anyway, what they are doing now in Istanbul is mad: they are building three towers 180 METERS HIGH in front of the golden Gate!!! These towers are visible from everywhere and they have destroyed the view of the City from north (when you see the City from Galata, they are just behind Suleymanye). Right now I am trying to contact the UNESCO to tell the fact. They are real barbarians. Many Turks think like me, but there is nothing to do... Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 19:24, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

I am not quite on the border, I've been posted to an anti-aircraft missile unit. It's not exactly a picnic, but it is relatively comfortable. I have to say that am jealous of you and your shuttling from Old to New Rome and back ;) On the subject of architectural monstrosities, the Turks don't have the monopoly: most Greek cities have been completely ruined in the past 4 decades, you'd think the descendants of Ictinus and Callicrates and of Anthemius of Tralles and Isidore of Miletus would have better taste in buildings... Anyhow, I checked my scanned version of Paspates' book, and here's what I found: Odalar Mosque and Kemankes Pasha are both mentioned only in page 363, which is not included in the pdf I have. It follows right after the Isakapi Mescidi, and with the one page missing it seems to be the same building, which is probably why the Greek article confuses the two (the Greek WP author apparently did not go into any trouble checking his facts). I haven't found an image of the building though (it is probably on the missing page). BTW, I found some more interesting photos in an excellent Greek blog about the City: [5], including a photo of a fresco with St Merkourios. Constantine ✍ 21:08, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Hallo Costas! Antiaircraft? Like me, but at that timewe were still fighting the Soviets :-) Yes, this could explain the problem, anyway, the Isakapi lied - as you know - in another part of the City. Thanks for the blog, i know it! The picture which is in the article comes from there: I wrote to the blog's author asking his permission to upload it in Commons. He was very kind. Now I must only wait that someone comes and reviews the article on DYK (it is there since 10 days, but none seem interested anymore in byzantine churches, only in changing the name Istanbul in Constantinople). Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 07:50, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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Thomas the Slav (ca. 760 – 823 AD) was a 9th-century Byzantine military commander, most notable for leading a wide-scale revolt against Emperor Michael II the Amorian in 820–823. An army officer of Slavic origin from the Pontus region, Thomas rose to prominence under the protection of general Bardanes Tourkos. After Bardanes's failed rebellion in 803, Thomas fell into obscurity until Leo V's rise to the throne, when Thomas was raised to a senior military command. After the murder of Leo and usurpation of the throne by Michael the Amorian, Thomas revolted, claiming the throne for himself. Thomas quickly secured support from most of the themes (provinces) and troops in Asia Minor, and concluded an alliance with the Abbasid Caliphate. He sailed with his army to besiege Constantinople. Michael II called for help from the Bulgar ruler Omurtag, whose troops attacked Thomas's army. Although repelled, the Bulgars inflicted heavy casualties on Thomas's men, who broke and fled when Michael took to the field a few months later. Thomas sought refuge in Arcadiopolis, where he was soon seized by Michael's troops and executed. (more...)

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Holiday

Hi Cplakidas, I see you're a bit worried about your compulsory holiday. Since there is no risk of military conflict at the moment I suggest you relax. You can benefit from this experience by getting new friends and watching different aspects of life. I wish you a happy service term. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 14:19, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your wishes! I'm hardly "worried" about a possible conflict, rather about losing nine months of my life for nothing ;) Thank God the unit I'm in is tolerable, and the company great! Constantine ✍ 21:18, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

regarding the "rmv nonsense about ensigns" in the Byzantine navy: http://sites.google.com/site/romeandromania/romania/stampoli/english http://sites.google.com/site/romeandromania/Home/10th-c/demographics_1000 Steliokardam (talk) 09:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Dionysios Arbouzis

I wonder if Arbouzis is still alive...Alexikoua (talk) 21:03, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I remember reading that he had died, but it is next to impossible to find any dates of birth or death... Constantine ✍ 21:38, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

The time he was in Korea he was 38 years old [[6]]. This means he was born in ca. 1914-5.Alexikoua (talk) 21:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Map of Constantinople

Hallo Costas

I found a tiny mistake in your beautiful map of C'ple: the positions of the Odalar mosque and of the Kasim Aga Mescidi are inverted. :-) The former should lie to the south of the latter (that is, nearer to the cistern of Aetius).

Bye, Alex2006 (talk) 07:32, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

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Re: Palaiologos CoA

To address your points.

An attributed coat of arms is actually a technical term, see Attributed arms. While not arms adopted by the subjects themselves, mediaeval scholars attributed arms to the Palaiologos and used the arms on maps, manuscripts and so forth throughout Europe for several hundred years. It seems like such a thing to at least note. The arms are not presented as the “true” coat of arms of the imperial family, either.

The image does not claim to be contemporary or from the region. The images used to represent the family’s cipher is also a modern rendition not in a contemporary Byzantine style, yet there seems to be no discussion about removing it. There is no reason why an image can not be used merely because it is modern. Many of the coats of arms rendered on Wikipedia are modern works, using things like Clip Art, and certainly not in the style of the subject’s time. This does not exclude an image from use.

Another source was given and can be found on the image’s talk page and with the caption. Two sources, the one where the image was taken and the Heraldica website, seems to make it rather reliable. Both mention how the arms had been attributed to the imperial family by Western Europeans.

The image does not comply with Wikipedia’s fair use policy, no. But that does not apply to this image, so the whole point is moot. The image is licensed on the artist’s website for use with a free, non-profit educational website like Wikipedia. There simply is no matching license tag on Wikipedia.

All and all, I would like the arms to be shown since it was part of the history, albeit more so from a Western European view point than an Eastern. There is no reason that the cipher could not be added to the articles as well; this does not need to be a case of one or the other. Colour images are few and far between for these articles, there is no reason to exclude them. So can we agree to add them both? JDF6574 (talk) 04:53, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

I know that attributed arms is a technical term, but first and foremost they are, as the article says, "imaginary arms". We don't include the attributed arms of Jesus or Caesar in the relevant articles, exactly because of this. The "attributed" Palaiologos CoA contains, as I said, elements that are indeed found in Byzantine heraldry, but mixes them up in a manner that is most unhistorical. The Heraldica reference you give ("Gules, a Cross and four B's Or." and "Gules, a double-headed eagle displayed crowned, Or.") illustrates this: what it describes is different from the image you provided in that the eagle should be golden, not black, and that the escutcheon is wrong, because it uses this version of the arms, which is an hapax, and not the far more common and well-attested simple tetragrammic cross (which is the form actually referenced in Rietstap's armorial). Furthermore, I repeat, there is no instance of the arms inescutcheoned in this fashion, neither in Byzantium nor by the Palaiologos family in Piedmont (i.e. the March of Montferrat), cf. [7] and [8]. As such, these arms are rather freely based on the original medieval form, and do not actually contribute anything to the article except adding yet another misconception about Byzantine arms and emblems (e.g. the very widespread - including, once upon a time, in Wikipedia - perception of the Flag of the Greek Orthodox Church as being the "Flag of the Byzantine Empire"). As for the use of other modern images, my answer is that I would much prefer to keep using the "original" illustration ([9]) over modern versions if they are not accurate renderings. However, an image like this, which is both historically accurate and conforms with the above original image, is perfectly acceptable. Best regards, Constantine ✍ 09:44, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Talk:John Troglita/GA1

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Tornike (name)

Please note that I have partially reverted your edit to this page. --Andriabenia (talk) 14:04, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Attaching "Nike" at the end of names is a common practice in Georgia, as proven by the new source I added. The name itself is not Greek, it merely incorporates it, that is why I changed the text to "influenced by Greek." This is actually what the source says, so no original research.--Andriabenia (talk) 14:35, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

No, I never said Tornike was Greek, the sources says that it is a Georgian name that mimics Greek names like Andronike and Kalenike. I could not think of that word in English but this discussion brought it to my head. I will changed the article to reflect this and perhaps that will clear things up.--Andriabenia (talk) 14:46, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

BTW, I think you're confusing Tornikios with Pakourianos, who is sometimes known as Armenian.--Andriabenia (talk) 13:15, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Nope: the Oxford Dictionary of Byzantium says "Tornikios, a noble family of Armenian or Georgian origin". Tornikios' father Abu Ghanim was prince of Taron, so he might well be Armenian. Constantine ✍ 14:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Plus, for the n-th time: the name "Tornikios" is clearly not a Greek name nor even a composite name, but a hellenized form of some Caucasian name, as attested by the variant form Τορνίκης (Tornikes). Anyone with a knowledge of Greek language and phonology would tell you this. Seeking a Greek root in a Caucasian name is a paretymology, and a website which seriously supports this view needs to have its credentials as a reliable source checked. Constantine ✍ 14:24, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Tornikios

Hi. I noticed the discussion about T'ornike. A source I found for Tornikios [10] (Greek original [11]) written by Ioannis Stouraitis indicates that the etymology is a diminuative of T'orn in Armenian, meaning "grandson". This seems to be repeated in other sources on Byzantium. Mathsci (talk) 06:39, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, this is precisely what I've been looking for. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 08:41, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Gubazes II of Lazica/GA1

I've reviewed the article and left notes on the talk page. I've put the nomination on hold for seven days to allow the issues to be addressed. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, here, or on the article talk page with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. (Blah, blah, blah, you've heard it all from me before - usual good work, etc. etc....) Ealdgyth - Talk 23:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Athanasius (praetorian prefect)

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

New entry

Hello Constantine and Happy New Year.

When you have the time, could you please take a look at the Zygostates (Byzantine official) entry? (Any improvements to the "Stable Version" would be greatly appreciated.)

Thank you and please continue making good faith edit contributions. :-) No. 108 (talk) 20:04, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Military Historian of the Year

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GA Gubazes II of Lazica

Congrats and thanks for your great job. --Kober^Talk 19:21, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the congrats, and likewise "well done" on bringing Toumanoff's views into the article. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 09:14, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

The siege and the fall of Constantinople in 1453 : historiography, topography, and military studies

I just thought that you might be interested in this new work about the subject I believe you are interested in.

The siege and the fall of Constantinople in 1453 : historiography, topography, and military studies.

All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:15, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXX, January 2012

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Books & pictures

Thanks for the material. The BWars pictures are quite unique, but unfortunately the related articles are not in good condition. I will expand the Kresna Battle the following days.Alexikoua (talk) 19:11, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Peter Bartl

Hello,

I've noticed that book Albanien : vom Mittelalter bis zur Gegenwart written by Peter Bartl contains a part which describes the first migrations of Albanians into Greece in late 13th and during 14th century. The problem is that I am not sure if he can be considered as RS for this topic. I would like to know your opinion if you are more acquainted with his work.

Best regards,--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:30, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello! From a cursory glance, I see no reason to not regard the author as reliable. His resume makes him a specialist in the field. Constantine ✍ 09:49, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 10:17, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Day of Thirst

Rschen7754 02:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Merger or review?

Hello, Constantine. I am reviewing both Stephen and Constantine Lekapenos for GA. As you said, quite a bit of content is the same from article to article, and I'm wondering if you think the two ought to be merged, to avoid redundancy. I'm leaving this up to you; once this gets straightened out, I'll begin reviewing. dci | TALK 00:08, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Hello! I'd definitely support a merge proposal, however I'll also put the question to Dimadick (talk · contribs) who began the articles on the brothers. Constantine ✍ 08:10, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

All right. I hope to start the review soon; I'll be tied up with "real world" stuff tomorrow, though. dci | TALK 03:01, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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GA nomination for Battle of the Defile

Greetings, Cplakidas! I'm just letting you know that I'll be reviewing you GA nomination of Battle of the Defile. Here is a link to the discussion. I wish this article best of luck! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 11:43, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, I reviewed the article, and decided it was of GA standard, so it's passed! I will note, however, that there were a number of minor grammatical errors that I had to correct as I read it. I hope you will look over these in the article's history, because other than that, you did a swell job with the article; I hope to review many more of your nominations in the future! :) Wilhelmina Will (talk) 08:20, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and for the corrections! Cheers, Constantine ✍ 14:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Review

I reviewed Stephen Lekapenos and am moving on to Constantine. dci | TALK 23:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Thanks Cplakidas for helping to promote Turahan Bey to Good Article status. Please accept this little sign of appreciation and goodwill from me, because you deserve it. Keep it up, and give someone a pat on the back today. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:25, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Fortifications of Rhodes

thank you for your corrections to my article. I understand by now Wikipedia likes a continuous text possbly without interruptions. I tried instead to align the pics as much as possible to the text. For the names of the gates I used the text I found on the tourist info which is not an encyclopaedia! So St. Athanasiou appeared although I know it is the genitive of Athanasios. Now I understand that nominative shall be used insted. I also checked that the Grand Master I mentioned as Pietro Raimonodo Zacosto is instead Spanish. The name has to be written as Pedro Raimundo Zacosta. --Aga 14:46, 28 February 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aga Khan (IT) (talk • contribs) I have upgraded my comments from level 3 to level 2 8-) --Aga 15:11, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

New Constantine Kontomytes article

		The Epic Barnstar
		Thanks for creating the new Constantine Kontomytes article, and improving Wikipedia's coverage of notable historic people. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:17, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Priscus ACR

G'day, I'm not sure if you are free at the moment, but if you can take a look at my comments at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Priscus (general) and respond, I would be happy to support it for promotion to A-class. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 22:10, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Good eye on that bad i

Thanks for catching that i, Konstantinos. I have Megalai Ehoiai on the brain and would never have realized that I typed the wrong form at Megala Erga. — cardiff | chestnut — 17:07, 10 March 2012 (UTC)