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Hey Cradel, how are you? Would you be able to translate KF Lepenci into English, or at least tell the guys at pages needing translation if it is notable enough to keep? Thanks, BalkanFever 08:45, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

I'll look into this later -- CD 09:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

The page KF Lepenci has been improperly deleted and has now been restored. -- Blanchardb -MeMyEarsMyMouth- timed 22:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Passport recognition[edit]

I found a list of countries currently recognizing the new passport. Some countries which recently recognized it are not included yet (Slovakia, Romania) but it's a good start. See here [1] Thanks. --alchaemia (talk) 21:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, I've created a map with the same style as Image:CountriesRecognizingKosovo.png, here it is, but I will need another source to include the visa-free countries -- CD 14:30, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Geography WikiProject Collaboration[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Topic outline/Drafts/Topic outline of Vatican City is almost ready to move to article space.

Please take a look and help fill in the missing bits. It needs blanks filled in, blue-linking (turning redlinks blue via redirects), pictures, etc.

Feedback is good too.

The Transhumanist 23:20, 10 October 2008 (UTC)


Po bej disa ndryshime ne faqet per historine e Shqiperise. E kam nisur me Qeverin e Ismail Qemalit dhe me Deklaraten e Pavaresise. Kam ndermend te hap nje faqe te perbashket per historine e Shqiperise pas vitit 1912, dmth te shtetit shqiptar dhe te zhduk faqen [[History of Albania (1919-1939), pjese te se ciles do t`i perfshije ne faqet perkatese Principality of ALbania, Albanian Republic, Albanian Kingdom. Po e sheh te nevojshme, perfshihu edhe ti.Balkanian`s word (talk) 20:43, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Afghanistan–Kosovo relations[edit]

Hi! A user has nominated Afghanistan–Kosovo relations for deletion. Please feel free to explain your opinions. Go and see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afghanistan–Kosovo relations. (Also there are 16 AfD nominations at the same page which includes Canada, Japan and several others). Thank you for your time! --Turkish Flame 07:04, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

We need your help...[edit] the Geography WikiProject, cuz we're working on something BIG...

For the past several months, work has been underway to develop a set of country outlines, and now they are getting close to being ready to move to article space. There's over two hundred of them, so when the move takes place it will be a pretty big event.

I and a few others have been working on 3 fronts:

  1. On the 28 country outlines that have already been moved to article space to complete them so they will be the best examples that they can be for editors working on the rest of the set.
  2. Adding or correcting other data (fixing redlinks, filling in blanks, etc.) in the overall set. This is the main type of work participants in our upcoming contest will be doing (Penubag is hard at work creating awards for this, and they look great!). The reason we're doing some of this work now is to get a feel for it, to develop the fastest methods for each type of task so as to best direct contestants on what to do.
  3. Improving the overall design and implenting changes on all 247 pages, whether in article space or not.

The main thing that needs to be done to the outlines so that they can be moved to article space is correct and complete the government branches sections, many of which include incorrect information that was placed there as temporary data by a template when these pages were created (in order to match the most countries and cut down on the work load). But there are plenty of other tasks too.

We're looking for editors who love to work on lots of pages fast, and who use or would like to use advanced tools like AWB and Linky. Most of the tasks entail working on a specific item on all of the pages in the set.

We're having a blast, but we're spread pretty thin and could sure use your help.

If you'd like to get more involved in Wikipedia than you are now and join in on the fun, drop me a note.

The Transhumanist 01:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Please help out and join us, we will do the same.[edit]


Whites in Zimbabwe[edit]

Hi. I find myself strangely intrigued by the picture of yours of the two ladies in the back seat of car you uploaded to the Whites in Zimbabwe page. Can you tell me more about it? Who are they? How are they doing now? Or maybe this isn't a personal photograph of yours, but a media one? Just curious. Thanks for your time and contributions. Mreleganza (talk) 04:31, 26 November 2008 (UTC)


Thank youBalkanian`s word (talk) 20:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

NEED HELP ON PATROLING KOSOVO,ALBANIAN RELATED ARTICLES!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Illyriandescendant (talkcontribs) 22:00, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Montenegrin Wikipedia[edit]

To be honest, I have absolutely no idea what is going on with the Crnogorska Enciklopedija. I'll have to contact the project's coordinator and see what is going on. And as for the letters, they will be adding two new letters, Ś and Ź, of the original three: Ś, Ź and

Re: Montenegrin Wikipedia[edit]

To be honest, I have absolutely no idea what is going on with the Crnogorska Enciklopedija. I'll have to contact the project's coordinator and see what is going on. And as for the letters, they will be adding two new letters, Ś and Ź, of the original three: Ś, Ź and З. --Prevalis (talk) 20:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


Can I ask you something? I se that you support Kosovo's independence (ok I said to myself he is albanian), you also support independence of Vojvodina I'm interested why? I didint see that you support Serbs Republic independence? mate I have a feeling that you support all separatism but of country who is realted to Serbia...can you explain here? w:sr:Разговор_са_корисником:Serbianboy —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

OK, firstly I'm an albanian and would support the independence of Kosovo either way (obviously) but I do have a good reason for this, I know how it feel to live under occupation, believe me, unless you try it you won't know how important it is to feel that "national pride" every now and then, to see a flag waving around the city, but anyway that can at some point be explained (your country, your rules), however, you guys started kicking us out man, seriously, try to imagine how that feels and then tell me we don't deserve this country, now as for Voivodina, in real life I don't care much about it, but I can at least imagine how they feel and how much they want theyre country because I've been through that. Your primary question was "what about the serbs in bosnia", right? Hmm, let me see, the serbs (the separatists in this case) commit genocide there, I know it's not the peoples fault but still, how logical is it to give land (a part of the country) to the ones who did the crime (please don't take this as offence, crime is a really harsh word but I couldn't think of anything better) , in Kosovo the victims wanted independence, in bosnia the criminals (always keeping in mind that it wasn't the peoples fault) want it. There. This is of course my personal point of view and might be completly wrong but you asked for it -- CD 14:21, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Man you cant tell that Serbs been fault. Albanians wernt little flowers too. what about OVK? What about all murders wo they commit and people (Albanians in first place) praised them...they burned a houses and abbeys and churches...what about 200 000 Serbs who take a refuge from Alabnians...why didnt they comeback why is that? What about Hashim Tachi didnt who reply to Serbian goverment call to take back refugee to their home... and one more thing why are and more Albanians destroyed over 30 Orthdox church and exile 4000 Serbs and one more thing why isnt in serbian villages today any electric? Man I know that you are patriot (me too) but lets take it seriously nither Albanians Nither Serbians are inecent...-- (talk) 19:37, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Put Downs[edit]

Please don't put down other countries as you did when you signed up to be a member on Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/participants. An anon IP left a comment on here showing his/her dismay. That probably left a bad impression of Wikipedia on them. Please think about what you're writing in the future. Thank you. Killiondude (talk) 05:16, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

what? I don't even know what you are talking about, and even so, who are you ? the wikipedia reputation police ? -- CD 22:54, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Kosovo – Panama relations[edit]

Hi! Kosovo – Panama relations has been nominated for deletion. Please feel free to explain your opinions. Go and see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kosovo – Panama relations. Thank you for your time! --Turkish Flame 17:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)


Ju lutem na ndihmoni me shtimin e nje materiali qe mund te ndihmoje ne njohjen e shqiptareve si pasardhes te ilirive ketu:


--Jurgenalbanian (talk) 14:21, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Request for help[edit]

I thought it might be a good idea to run a contest or two through the Countries WikiProject to attract editors to improve country coverage on Wikipedia, especially the country outlines.

I noticed you are a member of the WikiProject, and was wondering if you could help.

I've posted a message at Countries WikiProject talk page to get discussion started on what the awards programs should be and how they should be run.

Your ideas and feedback would be greatly appreciated.

The Transhumanist 23:10, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Map request relating to Albania[edit]

Hello. I notice that you are part of the Mapmaker Wikiproject and also an Albanian. I have made a map request relating to Albania and would like to know if you are interested. Bests, --Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 23:19, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

File:Africa blank map.svg listed for deletion[edit]

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Albania TF update.[edit]

Since this page Wikipedia:WikiProject Albania/Members will replace the old one (Wikipedia:WikiProject Europe/Albania/Participants), I deleted your name from the old page and entered it in the new page. Soon the old page will just redirect to the new page. You don't need to do anything, just informing. Mirupafshim. --Sulmues talk 20:33, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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I have reported this user for impersonating you and for vandalizing your userbox. Tommy2010 [message] 06:33, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

thanks-- CD 09:04, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Talkback at WP Albania[edit]

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You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
--Sulmues (talk) 15:56, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

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Kosovan names[edit]

Hello Cradel. Firstly, thanks for noticing my attempts at being neutral; that is my general idea and as you can gather, it is not always a possible task. Conflict by its very nature forbids such a state as neutrality and only arises in the first place because there can only be one of a number of solutions which will in discriminate all of the other parties involved. I want the light switched on, you want it off, what do we do? A light may either be on or off and if we try to force the switch into the middle position, the system will be in conflct with itself not knowing if it wants to go one way or the other, and soon enough, the power will die as a result of the abuse!!

I don't actually support the Serbian name so to speak, I don't believe I have in recent months taken part in debates to defend its usage. I generally apply it if the article exists with that name; when it comes to moving pages, if we talk of a mountain or plain shared between Kosovo and Albania, I leave the Albanian name alone, if between Kosovo and one the three Slavic entities to surround it, it then becomes controversial to use the Albanian looking at the wider handling of Kosovo coupled with the involvement of the other entity. I need to know precisely where you see my support for the Serbian name so that I can explain the circumstance, it is certain to be something different in all scenarios; as such, a link would be helpful if you reply to this. Apart from that, I'll try to explain everything briefly.

If we are talking about birthplace names, I take historical accuracy into account, and bare in mind that this will mean the Turkish name if the subject was born in the Ottoman Empire. If it is a simple case of mentioning a settlement for contemporary purposes, this is where sources have to take effect. Now according to the details I am given to believe, the "reliable sources" still use the Serbian names, I for instance have only known the BBC to speak of Peć and not Pejë. But be realistic and imagine the opposite, sources are invariably one-sided and any English language source to contain the Albanian names has clearly declared its position. How unrealistic does the following look?

"...then spread their terror to the non-Albanian population of Ferizaj, previously protected by the Serb police deployed to protect them."

I know, it looks like a joke! That type of usage can only be biased and if you see it half way down an article, you are wasting your time reading the whole publication. Now one thing I mst draw your attention towards is this incorrect assumption that "English doesn't have names for places", in fact all national languages have all sorts of names for everything. How a local population calls its settlement would be appropriate if a name did not exist, but it does at all times. There are maps and other publications that do indeed mention these tiny villages in Kosovo and they are published in all countries. We have an old Yugoslav map from about 1970 published in the UK, it has got Kosovo down to villages of fewer than 100 inhabitants, plus lakes, plus mountaints, etc. And it is not true that Đakovica only dates back to 1999, it had been mentioned before in travel writing and other reports; Kosovo was first making headlines as we knew them from 1996 and it began to feature heavily from 1998. It featured sporadically before 1996 and the town had been mentioned; so there are always names for everything. Now regarding post-2008, this is the sticky issue. I want to see a solution and I don't mind which way it goes; I am personally more frustrated at this stupid and futile Pristina with no /h/ after /s/, and no diacritic on the /s/ policy. It suits nobody, either have the Serbian or the Albanian, but it is not the English adaptation in its Wikipedia form, it is the Serbian minus the diacritic. Diacritics in turn are included or discluded according to publisher. I feel that Mitrovica is used more than both Kosovska and Mitrovicë, and as you know, they are both Albanian forms, but until this is passed, I am wrong to push it by removing Kosovska from all contemporary references. As for "nobody knew anything about Gnjilane, etc.", I contend that nobody knows anything about it now. Ask an average Englishman where Podujevo is and he'll believe you if you tell him it is in Brunei. I don't think the events of 1999 attracted new enthusiasts, most just watched the evening news when they are their dinner and that was the end of it. One who can speak of Prizren with knowledge today probably knew it before 1999 unless he is very young. That is all I can say at this stage. Evlekis (Евлекис) 17:09, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Then I confess that this is a very difficult call, with a huge gray area. What would an English tourist really say if he were telling someone that while in Kosovo he wished to visit Ferizaj/Urošsevac. I would be very happy to apply all Albanian names if policy were amended to accept Kosovo's international status as a country. In my honest opinion, we should only ever accept de facto status in all areas because any de jure factor is controversial and open to debate but de facto is plain and simple, and most of all, it applies whether people like it or not. That is also the key to this problem, it may otherwise have been felt appropriate to rename Preševo to Presheva for its municipal majority; it wouldn't be accepted because of the country it is internationally recognised to be a part of and what that government calls it. The country issue is the problem here, not so much settlement names, they are mere residue. Evlekis (Евлекис) 19:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't suggest pushing for de facto recognition, I declared my favour for that position for all practical aspects. The Republic of Kosovo is just the tip of the iceberg here; accepting national status will mean doing the same for all self-governing entities such as Abkhazia and others; that then leads to conspiracy debate as to who really gives the orders in those places. With Abkhazia, analysts may think Moscow and in Kosovo, others may think the U.S or Germany. I mean, Priština has landmarks devoted to Bill Clinton and George Bush, where do you find tributes to those two cartoons even within the States? De facto has arresting and far-reaching implications; WWII entities would have to be renamed and here it is even more justified than anything in the world today. That is because the world was split into two and there could be no way that one faction had more right to claim continuity from the previous system than the other, still some do not like mention of the Independent State of Croatia; but in reality, letters sent from that state had NDH stamps, not Kingdom of Yugoslavia. The other point I have to raise is that Albanian has an advantage in de facto situation but definitely not in de jure; that is the whole point of something being legal. In real-world contexts, nothing can be de jure unless it is accepted by all parties, for one government is only as important as the next and they are all players. That is not to say that Serbian has de jure advantage, that too is subjective. These are not reasons to adhere to Serbian names, we just cannot find convincing purposes to switch to Albanian. Evlekis (Евлекис) 01:43, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
To wait is all we can do for the time being. Unfortunately for you and other Kosovans, the situation is not as clearcut as the simple independence of Norway whereby even its former overlord Denmark recognises it and no one disputes it. The ICJ was by its own admission not a competent court and its ruling was not based on experts examining the occurrence and consulting the foundations of international law but rather a platform for nations' spokespersons to proffer their views on irrelevant matters that were anything but legally concerning. 69 states recognising Kosovo puts the entity in a unique never-seen-before situation. The number continues to rise but no one honestly knows how this will help or make things worse. The term de jure is one of the most dangerous and provocative terms one can use here because its very requirement suggests conflict. If Serbia hurried up and recognised Kosovo, I am sure it would make matters a lot easier as all other countries supporting Serbia's claim would follow suit, Kosovo would then be as accepted as Montenegro. There are no real principles for holding onto the Serbian names but the ultimate question was only ever, "What is the English?". Over time, English does change its names for places but a corpus is required to substantiate this. Take the name Kosovo, and Kosova: in Turkish, you will not have feared the name Kosovo staying because Kosova is what it has always been, it is their name for the land. But they also have their names for all settlements in Rumelia (eg. Yakova for your Gjakova). As I see the exonyms, they still seem to be Serbian endonyms though no doubt this is starting to change in some publications. You just need to point out where. All I can say is, forget all this talk of de jure; establish extactly what is the English name in each case (it can be done properly); and do not push for de facto because it too is tied in with too much controversy, it would cause us to ackowledge all rebel states and organisations. Evlekis (Евлекис) 04:52, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
That's a good question. How does one find this? I'd like to see a road map as these can be the best sources. The problem there is that they will start from the top, they call the land Kosovo, make a decision whether to mark it as independent or in some other way to reflect dispute, but then refer to the big towns by their Serbian name. Only when they jump down the list of smaller settlements will they either need to use one or the other if not both. Sometimes I think that is the best solution: Prizren/Prizreni. Who will accept it though? The bigger problem Cradel is that there are many other editors involved, it would be improper for an agreement between you and me to count as a consensus. If all written names were piped to a bilingual article name, would that help? It would mean alternating between variations in the article. Evlekis (Евлекис) 17:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


Thank you for the barnstar. My objective is to bring closer the two WikiProjects (Kosovo and Albania) so that we can all work on Albanian articles. Although it's a country WP, per this we may safely expand the scope so that all Albanians can work together. We are very few and we need the help of one another to better work through Rilindja Kombetare, History of Albania and our national heroes and patriots. Feel free to drop by at any time. We have been very lucky to have the help of Dr. Blofeld recently and we are having soon our 50th DYK. The next step is to increase the number of the Good Articles, but we need to work together to do these things. ZjarriRrethues, Kedadi, and I are too few to bring our wikiproject as one of the best of the Balkans. The Greek editors have taught us a couple of things in the last two years, now we're catching up. Still, we need people, especially people from Albania. --Sulmues (talk) 14:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

I will do the best I can to assist you, trying to be more active and to expand albanian-related articles when I have time --Cradel (talk) 17:34, 27 August 2010 (UTC)


As I've said on the talk page for the article, we should not have people born outside of albania who are not albanian citizens listed in this article, because they are not Albanian in any common sense, only of Albanian descent. --Nuujinn (talk) 19:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

What is an albanian in your common sense?--Cradel (talk) 19:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion would be appreciated[edit]

As a member of WikiProject Countries, I'm seeking your opinion on a possible issue identified at List of sovereign states. If you have some spare moments, please contribute a comment at the Discussion of criteria. Best regards, Nightw 04:50, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Republic of China article[edit]

Since you mentioned the Republic of China in your user page, I guess you are interested to share your insights at Talk:Republic of China#Requested Move (February 2012). Thanks for your attention. (talk) 17:41, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Kosovo Dispute[edit]

I would like to draw your attention to the discussion on the article on Kosovo (see here: Talk:Kosovo#History_in_the_lead_section). I believe your expertise in the topic could help resolve the ongoing dispute.--Guraleci (talk) 21:46, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

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Help about Montenegrin topics[edit]

Cradel, I need your help about some topics from Montenegro. I got problems with some pictures on the following articles: KK Ibar Rožaje - I got a warning for deletetion of the logo. They ask for some evidence even if it's a logo. Sultan Murat II Mosque - I admit i cropped some pictures that are not mine. That's because I don't know how to get the evidence for using they ask. Immovable cultural property of Rožaje - I got a map with number. I made a table with details about the numbers on the map. Is there any way to put the picture on wikipedia even if it's not mine. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arrdy0506 (talkcontribs) 21:00, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Roll call![edit]

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