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A barnstar for you![edit]

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species list boxes[edit]

Check out Pantherinae for a better way to do that. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:18, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@UtherSRG you are free to change it if you want Cs california (talk) 18:39, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was giving you first opportunity, but more than that it's information for future such tables you make. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:50, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not too familiar with Species table template. For the larger tables not sure how you put in the collapsible or the sort. I tried it here but It has some issues: Episynlestes -- Cs california (talk) 05:53, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've put a note requesting collapse on the template's talk page. Looking at Episynlestes, are you worried about the width not fitting in? I agree it's clunky there. I suggest leaving a note on the template's talk page, too, to work on it. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:30, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you respond at Template talk:Species table‎‎ with a species list table you put in that is collapsible? I was looking through your recent tables and couldn't find one. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:14, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bulbophyllum categories[edit]

Hi, at Bulbophyllum macranthoides, for example, we wouldn't normally have both Category:Bulbophyllum and Category:Bulbophyllum sect. Sestochilos because the latter is a subcategory of the former. I think two changes are needed:

  • remove Category:Bulbophyllum from all articles where a Bulbophyllum section category is present.
  • add the species epithet as the category key to the Bulbophyllum section categories (e.g. [[Category:Bulbophyllum sect. Sestochilos|macranthoides]]) to set out the species in alphabetical groups as is usual.

Peter coxhead (talk) 10:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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August 2023[edit]

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Monotypic genera[edit]

Hi, I admire the work you do on cacti. However, I don't understand why you moved Rauhocereus to Rauhocereus riosaniensis. As per WP:MONOTYPICFLORA, monotypic genera are treated at the genus name, not the species name. It's also normal to start an article with its title; as per MOS:FIRST: "If possible, the page title should be the subject of the first sentence." There's no reason why it's not possible for a monotypic genus. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:48, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was not sure what to do and then I used Mila caespitosa as an example. Thanks for fixing the issue. --Cs california (talk) 01:32, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, this is an example of part of WP:MONOTYPICFLORA I don't agree with. When the the name of a monotypic genus needs disambiguating, like Mila, instead of putting the article at Mila (plant), the policy is to put it at the only species, Mila caespitosa in this case. To me this is bound to cause confusion, as it did to you, since many monotypic genera will be treated at the genus name but others at the species name. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:42, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah just change it. I just try to base my edits off of other examples when I am unsure. --Cs california (talk) 20:07, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Moved[edit]

You moved Echinopsis eyriesii‎ to Echinopsis oxygona, i can see that eyriesii‎ page and oxygona page are very similar, but do you have a source that they are the same one? The two external links I gave, they are still different. Pfeiff is also marked in both pages. What if you kept both pages and mentioned that they could be the same plant? Webclouddat (talk) 13:58, 26 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes right over here. They are synonyms. If you think they are different then keep them separate and make notes on how they are distinguished because I can't tell them apart myself when I looked at live plants.--Cs california (talk) 03:56, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, While I do see that they are listed as synonyms in the Royal Botanic Gardens website, and you do not have to keep them seperate, could you please:
  • Include the info that was in the pre-redirect version, such as the Echinopsis eyriesii var. cristata variant, included in the Echinopsis oxygona Website by POWO
    • Move the further readings too?
    • not include var. inermis, as that one is useless
  • Just address that there are synonyms in the page (Also in POWO website)
    • Probably under a ==names== section Under synonyms in the taxobox
    • PLEASE Include all pics from eyriesii‎ in oxygona, label them as eyriesii‎, as you probably addressed the synonyms
Webclouddat (talk) 04:28, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
World of Succulents, World floraonline, India Biodiversity, wikispecies, EOL, Tropicos and cactushabitat.org also list it as a synonym. As I mention above if you think they are different make your case on how they differ and we can figure out if it can be on its own page. But I don't see many taxonomy databases or cactus websites listing them as separate species, except for older ones--Cs california (talk) 04:45, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I would not like you to have them be separate pages again! they are definitely synonyms!
Could you just move stuff from the Pre-redirect version to Echinopsis oxygona, and put the synonyms (from here) in the taxobox in Echinopsis oxygona Webclouddat (talk) 14:15, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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October 2023[edit]

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This has no copyright material all it is just translated from the German wikipedia. You can put it through the translator yourself. Second the site you are using is not accurate the photograph on it is not even a cleistocactus but an orchid --Cs california (talk) 16:51, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. It's also required under the terms of the license. I've added the attribution for this particular instance, via an edit summary and a template on the article talk page. Sorry for the mistake. Please make sure that you follow this licensing requirement when copying from compatibly-licensed material in the future. — Diannaa (talk) 00:41, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You did it again, on Echinocereus coccineus. Attribution is required under the terms of our license. Please start doing this. — Diannaa (talk) 12:38, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Same article ?[edit]

Are Neobuxbaumia macrocephala and Cephalocereus macrocephalus referring to the same species? I'm pretty sure that the former is now a synonym for the latter. Should they be merged? 115.188.113.184 (talk) 07:56, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Plants of the World Online treats them as one species under the name Cephalocereus macrocephalus, so, yes, they should be merged. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Now done; might need some more editing. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Afromorus has been nominated for deletion[edit]

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Hi @Cs california: Over at Wikidata - specifically https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q41793352 - the deprecated genus Cleistocactus for this species is still used.

Most likely created by bots - in this context, please see Lsjbot - are:

de:Borzicactus sepium appears to be ok

I would appreciate your thoughts about this.

Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 09:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Shirt58 I don't really edit wikidata everything here is based on the Kew Powo list for Cleistocactus, Borzicactus, and Loxanthocereus. You can see which plants go where on Trichocereinae or the separate genus pages. This is the same issue for separating out everything in Echinopsis to Trichocereus, Leucostele, and Lobivia--Cs california (talk) 10:31, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Shirt58: Wikidata has entries for both Borzicactus sepium (Q41793352) and Cleistocactus sepium (Q1099781); correctly because although these are said to be instances of "taxon", they are actually instances of "taxon name". By design Wikidata should have items for every published taxon name. See User:Peter coxhead/Wikidata issues for a more detailed discussion. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pelecyphora lloydii - which German wiki article?[edit]

Hi, I happened to see that you recently created the article Pelecyphora lloydii, with a note that it was a translation from the German wiki. However, no article under that title seems to exist. As per the translation rules, could you please add a null edit linking the original document? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 05:18, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, from the looks of it, you're going to need to do similar edits on Pelecyphora emskoetteriana, Pelecyphora_zilziana, Echinocereus spinigemmatus, Gymnocalycium capillense, Gymnocalycium gibbosum, Echinocereus cinerascens, and many others. Translation is important work, and everybody makes mistakes, but I see you've had numerous other warnings about copying between different Wikipedias. Please, start fixing them. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 05:29, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@GreenLipstickLesbian Please check the synonyms for the scientific names. There is no mistakes there is citation for the new name under the taxonomy section. All the cactus names use Kew's Plants of the World Online to be consistent. Pelecyphora lloydii is Escobaria lloydii; Pelecyphora emskoetteriana is Escobaria emskoetteriana; Pelecyphora zilziana is Escobaria zilziana, Echinocereus spinigemmatus is not any different de:Echinocereus spinigemmatus, Gymnocalycium capillense is not different de:Gymnocalycium capillense, Gymnocalycium gibbosum is no different de:Gymnocalycium gibbosum, Echinocereus cinerascens is no different de:Echinocereus cinerascens. If you want to add the links go right ahead. --Cs california (talk) 06:10, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I fear you're misunderstanding the issue. You still need to link to the article in question in your edit summary. This is not optional- and nor do I particularly "want" to clean up after an editor who, after multiple warnings, still refuses to follow a basic rule. Please do this. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as harsh, but you've been told before. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 06:22, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is an optional Manual of Style guideline there is no mandatory requirement per WP:IAR. If you think it is in not in good faith you can report it. I am not going to muddy up an article with template tags when it translated and additional information is added to the article.--Cs california (talk) 06:41, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Firstly, WP:IAR has never, and will never, tell you that you're allowed to ignore the Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License. That guide merely sums them up, and gives an example of how to follow them. Secondly- while I'm still assuming good faith, I have no problems going to the Copyvio notice board and asking for assistance there. I'd prefer not to have to do that, of course- but from the warnings on your page, this seems to be a long running issue that might be difficult for any one individual to fix. And, finally- nobody is asking you to add templates to the article. Literally, nobody- because that's not required. A comment in your edit summary is- but even if the template was required, aesthetics would not be a reason to leave it out. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 06:57, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If it is not a template tag about the translation and the link, I am confused what you are asking for? It is referenced that it was taken from the german wikipedia so there is attribution second the citations are correctly inserted. --Cs california (talk) 07:18, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm asking you to please include a message in your edit summary- not just saying that you got the material from the german wiki, but some form of link to the actual individual article you translated. When I've translated articles, I've typically used the example
"Content in this edit is translated from the existing French Wikipedia article at [[:fr:Exact name of French article]]; see its history for attribution."
with the appropriate substitutions. That allows anybody to easily go to the German wiki and check its history and see who wrote the content. Do you understand now? Tomorrow, I can help you add those summaries back in under dummy edits, if you'd like- but I'm probably a bit too sleepy to do it now. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 07:25, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how to add it back in but it is not a direct translation of the German. I think they can find it on the sidebar. There are lots of imported pages I have done from different wikipedia projects and combinations of multiple languages too so I don't think it is a good use of your time to add the attribution by edits. Please let me know if you have a tool for this as it is not worth doing by hand one by one--Cs california (talk) 08:24, 15 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I have added the required edit summary. Please start doing this yourself in the future, as you are wasting the time of multiple editors who are cleaning up after you. See the section below for more details. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 14:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pelecyphora duncanii[edit]

Is this a machine translation of w:de:Escobaria duncanii? The edit flagged on copypatrol as being a duplicate of this webpage, but the German-language article appears to pre-date the webpage's indexing by over a decade. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 05:51, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Correct that site does the same thing they just translate the page and paste it. The difference is on Pelecyphora duncanii I updated the name in the taxonomy section and add the citations. That earth.com is prone to getting flag on copypatrol and they sometimes use the incorrect picture for the plant. That is why I included a edit note that it was translated so there is no confusion. The earth.com looks like it just uses a bot to grab the text and then dump it on the page.-Cs california (talk) 06:15, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Attribution is required under the terms of the CC-by-SA license. Attribution is done by stating what you did in your edit summary at the time you add the content. It can also be done in a subsequent edit summary if you forget. Please have a look at this edit summary as an example of how it is done. Copying licensed material without doing this is a violation of our licensing terms. It doesn't matter if its not an exact copy/reranslation; do it every time you copy/translate an article from the German Wikipedia. Please let me know if you still don't understand what to do or why we have to do it. Thanks, — Diannaa (talk) 13:56, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is not an adequate edit summary, because it does not provide a wikilink to the article from which you copied. This particular one is impossible for people to trace, because the German article is at a different title, and is not listed in the sidebar. Regardless, attribution is not provided via the sidebar; you are required to do it via your edit summary. — Diannaa (talk) 14:12, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Providing the attribution required under the terms of the license is not optional[edit]

Since I last posted here, you have added content the articles Pediocactus and Pediocactus bradyi that you copied/translated from the corresponding articles at the German Wikipedia. Providing the attribution required under the terms of the license is not optional. Please start doing this properly, immediately, or I will block you from editing.

While I was checking your recent edits, you created the artice Pediocactus paradinei. Did you copy/translate it from the German Wikipedia? If so, which article? I found it. — Diannaa (talk) 21:35, 16 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I am sorry am I not allowed to save the page when I am not finish editing them?--Cs california (talk) 01:00, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
When you create a new page, you have the opportunity to use an edit summary. This is the time to provide attribution. Or if the page is already created when you add the copied content, provide the edit summary when you add the copied content. In either case, if you forget to do it, make a small edit and add the attribution in your edit summary.
Also, note when creating a wikilink to a page on the German Wiki, please use a colon between the de and the title. Like this: de:Escobaria robbinsorum not this: de Escobaria robbinsorumDiannaa (talk) 01:25, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Unattributed copying from November[edit]

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They are sourced in the article. Please send me the article you are claiming them to be translated from so we can add more information that is not present.--Cs california (talk) 21:01, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not claiming anything. I am asking if these two articles were copied/translated from another Wikipedia; for example the German Wikipedia or the Spanish Wikipedia. Do you remember if this is what happened? — Diannaa (talk) 14:32, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned above they are sourced in the article. Not translated. Please do not falsely assume the edits are translated from another wikipedia.-Cs california (talk) 06:53, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Edit summary questions[edit]

Sorry, it's me again. On Pelecyphora alversonii, I saw you left the edit summary "import from german wikipedia and jepsons". Assuming Jepsons is the source listed in the article, I just need to know if you copied information from that source or not. The edit summary is making it sound like that's what happened- but the site is no longer availible, and I haven't found an archived version to compare to. Also, I might be back later with a few articles that I believe are translations from other Wikis, but that I haven't yet found a source for.GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 18:57, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you click on the source you can see a search bar and put in the name. Then you can see the measurements are updated from Jepsons.--Cs california (talk) 21:10, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing the source link to the correct one. I'll go ahead and fix the cross-wiki attributions now. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:39, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was just fixing the attributions ofLoxanthocereus xylorhizus. You might want to give WP:MACHINE a read. "In Peru Loxanthocereus xylorhizus is botanically considered named after the flowers are oblique and zygomorphic, very open at the end and not tubular and actinomorphic, closed at the apex as in Cleistocactus. '" felt like it was written by a machine, not a human. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 21:58, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I will go over them slowly. There are other minor issues that has to be addressed that were not noticed during the initial edits. --Cs california (talk) 22:10, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Stubs[edit]

I keep coming across your articles in the feed, so I just wanted to inform you that Plants of the World Online is a wikilink that you can use in the url= parameter of your citations. Darling ☔ (talk · contribs) 23:55, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am using the citation tool --Cs california (talk) 00:16, 8 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Charts[edit]

Hello. I don't think your chart edits are very constructive. The zebra chart became more smushed and the beaver subspecies list is uncited. Can you at least stay away from featured articles please? Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 23:32, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How is it not constructive? It makes the information on the page easier to find just like Infoboxes. The beaver subspecies was from the species page. There is a way to unsmush it see Template:Species table Cs california (talk) 00:54, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The chart was put there for information that isn't in the rest of the article. LittleJerry (talk) 14:58, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edits to Flat white article[edit]

Hello there You recently changed the info box for this article and added the unsourced and incorrect statement that the drink originated in France. Would you please read the article and revert this? Thank you. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 11:24, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I corrected it myself. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 11:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aemilius Adolphin Thanks for the catch --Cs california (talk) 07:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]