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March 2014[edit]

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Blue wildebeest[edit]

Hi! Just to inform you that I am nominating the article for GAN. So we should be ready for the review. Thanks for all your valuable edits here! Sainsf <^>Talk all words 12:00, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

OK. We'll see how it goes. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:45, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Cryptotermes brevis[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Eulaema meriana[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:01, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Sthenoteuthis pteropus[edit]

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DYK for Astichopus[edit]

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Problematic new editor on Poena cullei[edit]

User "Complainer" is doggedly deleting an explanatory half-sentence in the lead on Poena cullei on the meaning of parricide (a not all usual word), claiming that explanation is a "disruption" of the page. he is now up on 3RR.Arildnordby (talk) 21:42, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

never mind. Not too big an issue.Arildnordby (talk) 23:08, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Atlantic Puffin[edit]

This is a note to let the main editors of Atlantic Puffin know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on April 2, 2014. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at present, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 2, 2014. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

Atlantic Puffin

The Atlantic Puffin is a species of seabird in the auk family and is the only puffin native to the Atlantic Ocean. It breeds in Iceland, Norway, Greenland, Newfoundland and many North Atlantic islands, and as far south as Maine in the west and the British Isles in the east. It has a black crown and back, pale grey cheek patches and white underparts. Its broad, boldly marked red and black beak and orange legs contrast with its plumage. The Atlantic Puffin spends the autumn and winter in the open ocean of the cold northern seas and returns to coastal areas at the start of the breeding season in late spring. It nests in clifftop colonies, digging a burrow in which a single white egg is laid. After about six weeks, chicks are fully fledged and make their way at night to the sea, not returning to land for several years. Colonies are mostly on islands where there are no terrestrial predators but adult birds and newly fledged chicks are at risk of attacks from the air by gulls and skuas. The Atlantic Puffin's striking appearance, large colourful bill, waddling gait and behaviour have given rise to nicknames such as "clown of the sea" and "sea parrot". It is the official bird symbol for the Canadian province of Newfoundland and Labrador. (Full article...)

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precious again, the interesting bird with an unusual lifestyle, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:18, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:24, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Copula (jellyfish)[edit]

Thank you Victuallers (talk) 00:27, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Histioteuthis reversa[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 10:53, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Rossia pacifica[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 04:32, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Trophodiscus almus[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 07:03, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Care for the Wild International[edit]

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DYK for Sabella spallanzanii[edit]

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Tiger[edit]

I left a new update at the talk page. When we're ready would you like to nominate? I sure it would be worth a lot of points for WikiCup. LittleJerry (talk) 20:35, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I will be happy to do that. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:14, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I think the last thing we need to do is add a subsection on genomics based on this paper. Would you be able to do it? LittleJerry (talk) 18:38, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I would prefer not to. It is not my area of expertise and I might make a hash of it. Looking at a few mammal FAs, I can't find any that delve into the animal's genome. As we are going for GA and not FA, the article does not need to be comprehensive and unless you feel competent, I suggest we leave it out, other than saying the tiger and some other of the big cats have had their genomes sequenced. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:33, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Okay then. LittleJerry (talk) 21:10, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
I think we're ready. You can nominate anytime you like. LittleJerry (talk) 23:07, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Right you are. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed some of the old ones looked a little flaky. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:41, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I found this as a source for tiger subspecies coat colors and stripe patterns. I think you should add some on the Sumatran. LittleJerry (talk) 17:45, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I shall be on holiday for some days now; it sounds worth adding the ref, if you can bear to do it. Both Cwmhiraeth and I have commented on the FA-like criteria being applied to the article's references, basically going beyond what is needed for GA - were we to be failed on this, an appeal would be in order. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:42, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tiger[edit]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tiger you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. Time2wait.svg This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Shoebox2 -- Shoebox2 (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup 2014 March newsletter[edit]

A quick update as we are half way through round two of this year's competition. WikiCup newcomer Smithsonian Institution Godot13 (submissions) (Pool E) leads, having produced a massive set of featured pictures for Silver certificate (United States), an article also brought to featured list status. Former finalist Oh, better far to live and die / Under the brave black flag I fly... Adam Cuerden (submissions) (Pool G) is in second, which he owes mostly to his work with historical images, including a number of images from Urania's Mirror, an article also brought to good status. 2010 champion Colorado Sturmvogel_66 (submissions) (Pool C) is third overall, thanks to contributions relating to naval history, including the newly featured Japanese battleship Nagato. Rhodesia Cliftonian (submissions), who currently leads Pool A and is sixth overall, takes the title for the highest scoring individual article of the competition so far, with the top importance featured article Ian Smith.

With 26 people having already scored over 100 points, it is likely that well over 100 points will be needed to secure a place in round 3. Recent years have required 123 (2013), 65 (2012), 41 (2011) and 100 (2010). Remember that only 64 will progress to round 3 at the end of April. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page; if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points equally. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail), The ed17 (talkemail) and Miyagawa (talkemail) 22:55, 31 March 2014 (UTC)


Puffins![edit]

Wildlife Barnstar (V5) Alt.png The Fauna Barnstar
Congratulations for seeing your work on the adorably odd and rascally Atlantic Puffin as today's TFA--coincidentally, one of my favourite birds. --ColonelHenry (talk) 12:25, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Indeed, they are most interesting birds! Thank you. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Coptotermes frenchi[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:02, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Coptotermes acinaciformis[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 08:03, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

WikiCup error[edit]

Hi there- this is just a quick note to apologise for a small but important mistake in the last WikiCup newsletter; it is not 64 users who will progress to the next round, but 32. J Milburn (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Tiger[edit]

Got your message, I will see what I can do. Research papers on felids are numerous but they rarely contain general information (e.g. tiger cub weights). I am not a native English speaker and my written English may not be up to the GA standards but I think I can find better sources, thanks. BigCat82 (talk) 11:20, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Your written English seems pretty good to me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:20, 4 April 2014 (UTC)
I hope you can get through this. Sorry I can't help more, I really can't do much now. Too much stress from personal life. LittleJerry (talk) 01:43, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Ok, get well soon. Cwmhiraeth, is there anything special I should be doing to the article? Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
I've tidied a lot of references, arranged some images and added lengths and weights to subspecies (with refs). Do you think we're now ready? Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Good work! Ready for what? I expect you mean tell ShoeBox2 that we are done. I would think so. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:14, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Euglossa dilemma[edit]

hi Cwmhiraeth: over at Template:Did you know nominations/Euglossa dilemma the hook is not confirmed by the reference -the reference states that the Ficus altissima became invasive after the introduction of a polinating wasp, Eupristina[1] not this bee. So I suggest correcting the article and coming up with a new hook, as the rest of the criteria seem satisfied. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 07:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

March 2014 Core Contest[edit]

Paul de Vos Turkey and rooster.jpg Aeq. Second Prize
For an appetising revamp of poultry, you've come equal second in the March 2014 Core Contest! Cheers, Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:25, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

That was an amazing piece of work, throwing out all the inessential material, reorganizing it, and adding so much new text and references. Bravo! Binksternet (talk) 15:38, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to Casliber and all the judges for their hard work in organising and judging the competition. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 17:58, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello Cwmhiraeth, I'm here onbehalf of WP:ORPHAN in which you are also a participant. So, we want your opinion to a WP:ORPHAN related matter. It is a proposal by Technical 13. Please have a look here. Your opinion (i.e support, oppose etc) are very much appreciated there. Thank you. By Jim Cartar through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:02, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Chameleon goby[edit]

Thank you for your help Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

All Glory Laud and Honour DYK[edit]

I know you kindly reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/All Glory, Laud and Honour before but can I ask if you could please re-add the tick because there have been some new suggestions. Personally I prefer ALT1 but I'll leave it up to you. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:15, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Coptotermes elisae[edit]

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Backlog drive[edit]

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Hello Cwmhiraeth,

WikiProject Orphanage is holding a month long Backlog Elimination Drive to de-orphan articles which have orphan tags!
The goal is to eliminate the backlog of orphan articles. There are currently 118798 articles which have orphan tags. The drive is running from April 12, 2014 to May 12, 2014.

Awards will be given out for all editors participating in the drive in the form of barnstars at the end of the drive. To add your name in the participants list click here.
So start de-orphaning articles! Click here to see the list of articles need de-orphaning. Visit Suggestions for how to de-orphan an article to know more!

Thanks. Opt-out Instructions by Jim Cartar on behalf of WikiProject Orphanage through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:21, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Tiger[edit]

The article Tiger you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:Tiger for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Shoebox2 -- Shoebox2 (talk) 23:11, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Euglossa dilemma[edit]

slakrtalk / 10:42, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Hang on![edit]

Tireless Contributor Barnstar.gif The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I hope the weird witch-hunt going on at the moment doesn't drive you away, it's too nice working with you! FunkMonk (talk) 11:06, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
With a Bar to hang below the Barnstar. I had heard of this sort of thing but happily never saw it happen so close to home before. I hope to work with you many more times. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:33, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Yes, my criticisms of the review process and comments about articles you've contributed to are all about the articles and nothing about you as an editor at all. I would expect others to follow the same route and not make anything personal. You've kept up good decorum and standards when it would be so easy to fight back the provocation, and that has to be commended. Happy editing! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your confidence in me. I thought you might never want to collaborate with me again, CC. As for being driven away, I think not. That would be a resounding victory for my chief critic and under normal circumstances I enjoy editing too much. I must look into whether I can close the review. The longer they all beaver away, the more things they will find to criticise. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:09, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Seconding this. Your resilience is impressive. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 04:41, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Requests for reviewers[edit]

In case you have not seen it, I copy here what I have just added to the ANI thread:

"As NewYorkBrad says, the priority is to review more of the articles. Following a suggestion made further up, I am about to post a neutrally-worded message on the talk pages of some relevant WikiProjects asking for uninvolved people to join in the editor review. I will add links here as soon as I have done that. JohnCD (talk) 21:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Links to requests on the talk pages of WikiProjects Algae, Amphibians and Reptiles, Arthropods, Fungi, Insects, Marine life, Microbiology. Any suggestions for other WikiProjects to ask? JohnCD (talk) 21:23, 14 April 2014 (UTC)"

Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Fair enough. However I would greatly object to a wholesale tagging of the articles I have written or worked on without each individual article to tag having been individually evaluated first. I don't think Chiswick Chap would like to see Sea, the FA we jointly worked on, tagged as suspect. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
I have added your request to the following project talk pages: Fishes, Animals and Birds. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:34, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Good, thank you. I saw the suggestion on the AN/I page, but had not got round to doing it. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:51, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

Sincerest apologies for my error, Cwmhiraeth. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be to be criticised by someone making such a goose of themselves. Feel free to administer trout. Despite everything, as a lowly WikiGnome I'm still in awe of your tremendous contributions here. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 05:53, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the apology, I don't think I will administer the trout. If you really mean "I'm still in awe of your tremendous contributions here", you could mention it at my review page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:05, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

How to do it[edit]

Apparently this is how to respond to criticism, you obviously got it wrong. Well, at least we know that one of the gang is better at dishing it out than taking it. Also interesting to find an admin who removes messages from their talk page that are not obscene or grossly offensive. Good luck Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:21, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

You might like to look at the history of AfadsBad's talk page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 11:30, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Out of curiosity I looked at the edit you linked. I think you made a fair point. My own view as I indicated in my initial post at the review is that the attacks are over the top and unwarranted. Cwmhiraeth I hope you continue to edit, I think your articles are good and add value to WP. In particular it does not both me if there are minor inaccuracies by taking an article on a given species from non-existant to at least start class you have made something available, it can then be refined by other more specialised editors and improved. The volume of work you have done provides a valuable service. I wish you would include turtles in your list of pages written, then I could refine them rather than write them from scratch. Don't let these people get you down, don't let them ruin you as an editor. cheers, Faendalimas talk 12:11, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Your comments are really heartening and its so nice to have some encouragement in a sea of criticism. They reflect my view as to my utility as an editor but not that of most of the editors at the review. My articles are far from perfect, but in my opinion are an improvement on no article or a brief stub. Had you any particular turtle species in mind? I see that African dwarf mud turtle (Pelusios nanus) is a brief stub, shall I have a go at enlarging it? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
Anything you like, I will see any turtle article you edit, then can work from there. Cheers, Faendalimas talk 17:17, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Eurasian Wryneck[edit]

I posted this to see what the perceived problem is. If there is a reply, we can fix any real problem, if there isn't I'll remove the tag since the section is all referenced and he is obviously trying to make a point. I'll be away intermittently over Easter, but there's no rush with this, and it gives your nemesis time to respond. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:03, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

I would have done this myself, but I'm hardly impartial. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:23, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
For now... Happy Easter Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:30, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Your request at your review[edit]

Hi Cwmhiraeth,

You asked for comments from "independent-minded" editors at your review. I'd prefer not to comment there, but I did want to share a few thoughts with you.

By way of introduction, I have a Ph.D. in computer science with an undergraduate degree in theater and a long-lasting fascination with evolutionary biology. Let me start off with an example to show you where I think you can improve a bit.

Pulling a book at random from my shelf (Rochkind's Advanced Unix Programming) and opening it to a random passage, I read:

If the KEY argument is equal to IPC_PRIVATE, a queue is created regardless of whether FLAGS has the IPC_CREAT bit on. (p. 183)

Consider paraphrasing the above for use in an article. A reasonably intelligent person would guess that the terms in ALL CAPS are being used as terms of art and should be quoted directly. Beyond that, though, someone without training in CompSci probably isn't going to know that "argument", "is equal to", "queue", "bit" and "on" are also terms of art, and as such should not be modified. That's going to limit the paraphrasing to changing the structure, perhaps:

Queue creation is independent of the IPC_CREAT bit in FLAGS if the argument KEY is IPC_PRIVATE.

Where I see you getting tripped up is in paraphrasing terms of art (or paraphrasing what your critics think might be terms of art). If you have a deep understanding of the vocabulary of a particular field, then it's obvious what words you can change and how, and it also becomes fairly straightforward to defend your choices. (The word "on" in the above could be replaced with "high", and I can cite chapter and verse as to why that's allowed.)

If you're not yet familiar with the specialized vocabulary of the article you're editing (and that's going to be the case most of the time), then you'll probably want to err on the side of reproducing the language and varying the sentence structure (as I did above).

Doing this is hard. Looking at my own example I noticed that I screwed it up. Do you see how? (I should have "and will occur" prior to "if the argument".)

Making that change in how you paraphrase is a minor tweak. Beyond that, keep doing what you're doing. Feel free to ping me or email me if there are a few specific examples where you'd like another set of eyes. I know lots of biologists, so it shouldn't be hard to get an expert opinion of if necessary.

Finally, you've held up extraordinarily well in some very trying circumstances. That speaks well of your character. I think the worst of it is over, and I'm looking forward to you having some drama-free days ahead.

With much respect,

Lesser Cartographies (talk) 07:29, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, you have got it spot on. In the example you give, the subject is completely unfamiliar to me. If I were working on a relevant article it would be best if I either quoted the sentence verbatim or left the information out completely. The problem comes when I look at a source (with all its technical terms) and think I understand what it is saying and try to paraphrase it, but get it wrong.
I don't think colours used in descriptions of organisms are generally "terms of art" except perhaps at the first description of a species, and where it has a range of colours I think it reasonable to equate orangish-pink with pinkish-orange. The editor review does feel more like a war rather than an attempt to assess my strengths and weaknesses, and many of the participators are Wikipediocracy regulars and start out with a bias against me. Never mind.
Cheers, Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:39, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
@ Lesser Cartographies, what a fine and well-expounded example. I'd add that 'terms of art' (guess I'd call'em 'technical terms') are to a degree in the eye of the beholder. I was familiar from university with the term graceful degradation, which the lecturer cheerfully varied as in 'which enabled performance to degrade gracefully when something failed...', a graceful usage of the technical term. I got a rude shock in industry where the concept was much less familiar, and the noun-phrase was invariable, any variant being treated as a hideous solecism! Not worth protesting that things were different at college, of course. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 10:30, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Lebrunia coralligens[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Spicara maena[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Spicara smaris[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 23 April 2014 (UTC)