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Update to tl:Administrative divisions of Ukraine[edit]

I did not erase old template, but rather moved it to tl:Regions of Ukraine. The template truly represents regions rather than an administrative divisions as it presents regions such as oblasts, autonomous republic, and important cities. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:23, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

{{Template:Regions of Ukraine}}

Honestly, I found it cumbersome to change all the instances of tl:Admin divisions of Ukraine to tl:Regions of Ukraine on bottom of all of the oblast pages, city articles, etc when the template you created isn't used on very many.. I instead took the liberty to move yours to the new template page and vice versa.. Much easier way to fix the situation! lol.
Btw, I also added some of my info I have been working on in my own /Oblasts of Ukraine article.. I think this warrants a similar Federal cities of Ukraine or something like that (don't worry--that's just a placeholder name, since no one refers to Kiev and Sevastopol as federal cities.. I'm just brainstorming here... Perhaps Ukrainian cities with special status?
Just take a look at how Federal cities of Russia is created. They too have two "federal"--err central government cities. Creating those two articles can enable us to make Administrative divisions of Ukraine an overview rather than an exhaustive and extensive article... _dsergienko 03:18, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Created an article "Cities with special status". Also DDima, the templates for the administrative divisions of regions need to be reviewed. It is impossible to list all villages in such a template and moreover pointless. I believe it would be much simple to create a separate template for each raion and regional cities (of regional importance). The rest can be addressed through the general article Regions of Ukraine. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 13:33, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
  • Yeah, we'll have to also create articles on Cities of oblast subordinance and the like.. And yeah, I'm aware of that problem, for right now I was just linking to the village articles we had for that specific oblast... In the case of Lviv, there were just too many such village articles created and they were removed from {{Lviv Oblast}}. I wouldn't have a problem removing villages from these templates altogether...
  • I've been reviewing each of these templates last month (and still attempting to do so today), trying to make them all alike with one another... The problem is that some oblasts have way too many UTS (upwards of a hundred, c.f. {{Donetsk Oblast}}), and agreed, it's ridiculous to list each and every single one. On the other hand, some oblasts, such as {{Chernivtsi Oblast}}, only have a handful of UTS, and it really doesn't hurt having them in the template, since there are only 8 for that entire oblast..
  • I've been trying to make them all follow the same general pattern/scheme, as well as trying to make all of the UTS articles created/blue, c.f. {{Ternopil Oblast}}, although knowing me, I can't make a simple one-word stub about a location,.. I write a full article, LOL. --ddima (talk) 16:57, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
  • What do you think about this one^^ Villages are nuked, and I simplified the template by removing the Ukrainian flag (we are really over patriotic on here :)), and replaced COA with a flag of the subdivision (smaller, and takes up less room) For comparison, other countries don't have their flags on every single article/template of their subdivision (c.f. {{Indiana}} and {{Krasnoyarsk Krai}}.
  • Someone raised a concern at Template talk:Ukrainian oblast about the confusion surrounding "cities of oblast subordinance" which can confuse readers who aren't familiar with Ukrainian subdivisions.. Per the concerns, I changed "oblast subordinance" to "major cities" and to distinguish from the two added another subgroup for "regional cities" -- not under any provincial-level subordination. --ddima (talk) 19:59, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

I just posted onto the talkpage of Template talk:Ukrainian oblast and then I saw your reply here. I like the idea to call the cities major, while the other ones could be called minor. After all there are only two types of cites other than Kiev and Sevastopol, they are either of regional importance (major cities) or district importance (minor cities). Concerning the template I think it would be wise to include only raions (districts), major cities, and district seats. Then for each individual raion (district) or city there should be a separate template. For example, cities of Kiev, Donetsk, Sevastopol, Kharkiv, and others should also have their templates. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:26, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Honestly, I'd rather have the UTS in the templates since it provides the reader with all of the administrative subdivisions of that specific oblast in one place, and they can see the entire list of towns without having to go elsewhere (provided we include the entire list, as only a couple of oblasts templates I've updated with the entire UTS list). And in some cases, the UTS is also the raion center (c.f. Mlyniv is admin. center of Mlyniv Raion), among others in that province, and perhaps in other oblasts as well. --ddima (talk) 17:11, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Added in the "below" line to the template below listing links to UTS and villages.. Couple options:
  1. If removing the UTS let's at least keep the links to them like so, it doesn't clutter up the template and still gives readers another link to click!
  2. Or we just keep the UTS all in the templates except for the few oblasts with upwards of like 30 or so (Donetsk, Luhansk, etc)... there are just to many to list and most of them are red links anyways and for the few in say Chernivtsi (where there are 8 UTS), we just list them and leave it at that. --ddima (talk) 17:22, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I think it looks great. Regional cities as I understand it implies that those are district seats (administrative centers). Is that right? We need also similar template for raions and, may be, some city's municipalities. Also beside "Major cities" and "Regional cities" there could also be cities that are part of bigger municipality such as Vynnyky that is part of Lviv city and I think there are few such cities in the East Ukraine as well. Another issue, I tried to compose infoboxes, however they did not come out well. May be you would have time to take a look at them. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:29, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Okay, I'll update the templates probably later on tomorrow.. Actually, the "regional cities" I was referring to are the remaining cities in the oblast (oblast subordinance - which are listed under "Major cities," and the rest of them -- which for right now is listed under "regional cities") Perhaps a better name would be "minor cities" ? And actually not all of them are administrative centers: as you can see there is a "city" Khorostkiv but no Khorostkiv Raion. I don't think we should just pick and choose the cities by which ones are administrative centers and take the other ones out of the template. Let's have a full list of cities, just divided on their status (cities of oblast subordinance -- "major cities", and the other ones, possibly under a label such as "minor cities" or the like). --ddima (talk) 21:10, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

"really no motivation in WP:UKRAINE either"[edit]

I second your observation here. But it also might be because the "To do list" on Wikipedia:UKRAINE is not really appealing now. Maybe we can have a good discussion on what we should focus on on Wikipedia:UKRAINE (preferable something "all people who want to improve Ukrainian related articles" have an interest in; maybe first ask for interests and then for ideas) and then all do a bit on that. I did lost track who is a mayor contributor to Ukrainian related articles... Right now it seems only me and Aleksandr Grigoryev... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 20:40, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I wish I could contribute more, just not enough time lately. I still got a lot of articles waiting to be completed so they'll have to be done sooner or later! --dsergienko (talk) 00:49, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Good luck with those! Take your time; Wikipedia is not the most important thing in our lives. I'll start a discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine after the week-end. I want some time to best formulate that discussion. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 18:34, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Thanks for the welcome message :)

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Thanks. Hope you will help out and contribute to Ukraine-related topics, we are at a shortage of participants right now and would be great to have some more. Cheers, --dsergienko (talk) 23:23, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Your assistance is needed for Rinat Akhmetov article. Again.[edit]

Dear DDima, I'm afraid I will need to ask you to protect the page as we're having a bad case of history repeating. You may have remember disputes around this article, mostly involving me and user Lvivske who was trying to bring one-dimensional negative coverage of Rinat Akhmetov biography. We even managed to come to some consensus after your interference and the article took the shape of more or less balanced biography, mentioning both positive and negative moments. Yet, a couple of days ago user Lvivske attacked the page again, reverting to all before-the-consensus edits. I will try to resolve the issue on my own, as recommended by Wiki, but still may I count on your kind support if it's needed? Many thanks in advance, --Orekhova (talk) 16:30, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

I vehemently deny these accusations of me "attacking" the page. No consensus was ever really established, just some adjustments made and I happened to take a wiki-break. I've since reviewed the edits you made and seen a lot of issues with trouble maintaining a WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE. Your recent reversions were not constructive and I even started talk page discussions on them because they were borderline vandalism. While I agree more eyes are needed on the article, dragging me through the muck and misrepresenting yourself and the edits made has not gone unnoticed.--Львівське (говорити) 18:31, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I also think it's wise to think of WP:CONFLICT here [1]. Especially the section about close relationships. Närking (talk) 19:01, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
I suspected that Orekhova was another PR rep for Akhmetov, but this is an interesting twist indeed...also, found this a blog by Orekhova dedicated to Ukrainian oligarch's philanthropy?--Львівське (говорити) 19:20, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Looks like this is going to keep going around in circles like it did before. Orekhova, if you wish, open an RFC, but what they pointed out above does not help with this situation... It's important that we portray the truth and known facts, but of course making sure they are credible and reliable at the same time. And I'm afraid that there might not be much of a point to be made... --ddima (talk) 07:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
Exactly, I do have the same feeling. We've had a lot of quarelling here and finally came to the version which contained both positive and negative information, supported by reliable sources only, and that created the utmost unprejudiced appearance of the article, to my mind. Now, with all that edits done by Львівське, the article looks biased again. Thank you anyway for your understanding and I will appreciate any comments from your side on how to improve the situation, if this is still possible --Orekhova (talk) 08:05, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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You deserve this for consistent quality work starting Ukrainian settlements and doing so perfectly with proper formatting and infoboxes and everything. Keep up the great work!!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 00:52, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! It ticks me off when there are stubs and no useful information in them! At least if we start them, let's make them worthwhile and give the reader some info, right..? Cheers, --ddima (talk) 00:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, Coordinates are off on Klevan BTW.♦ Dr. Blofeld 01:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I knew about that and didn't know what the problem was! I used the same ones from the Ukrainian/Russian Wikis,.. but thanks for fixing that. 01:59, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview[edit]

Dear DDima,


My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.


So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.


Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at obar@msu.edu (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.

Sincerely,

Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 05:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Anatoly Dneprov (writer)[edit]

Hi,
Thanks for your edits in Anatoly Dneprov. Two three days ago I read two of his short stories 1) Maxwell Equation 2) Iva (In Bengali translation, I do not know Russian) and highly liked those stories (mainly science fictions). But I was surprised to see there is not any article on this prolific writer in Wikipedia. In Google Search (English, Russian) too, I could not find sufficient amount of information on the writer. What I have found, I have already posted in the article. I am an Indian, I am facing trouble to collect more information for the article. If you know about Anatoly Dneprov, can you help to add more information in the article?
You can add a {{tb}} template in my talk page. --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 03:36, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

No problem, glad I can help out. Honestly I have not heard of this guy, but a quick google search with his Ukrainian name revealed some articles on the web and added it accordingly. Could be an interesting read one day, thanks for writing the article! Cheers, --ddima (talk) 20:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! --Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 02:54, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Collage pictures[edit]

Hello DDima, I noticed you uploaded quite a number of collage pictures of various cities. Can you please provide an account of the provenance of the individual component pictures in each of them? If you are yourself the photographer of every individual component image, then please say so explicitly. If you used freely licensed photographs already existing on Wikipedia or Commons, you still need to credit the sources and authors. You cannot release such images as your "own work". Please make a list of this type:

Component images

If you took the images from somewhere else and there is no evidence of free licensing, then we'd have to delete the collages. Fut.Perf. 07:08, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

OK, will do. Thanks for reminding me --ddima (talk) 08:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Holy Trinity Church, Kamianets-Podilskyi[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Holy Trinity Church, Kamianets-Podilskyi at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! SusanLesch (talk) 17:40, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Holy Trinity Church, Kamianets-Podilskyi[edit]

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 16:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Italians of Crimea[edit]

Thank you for the time you spent to make the article conforming to wiki standards. By the way, how and where did you learn to wikify so well the text? I am impressed. --Silvio1973 (talk) 04:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I was glad to help out. Thanks for starting the article! We could use some pictures perhaps, and maybe nominate it for the WP:DYK section on the Main Page? I've been editing since 2006 and learning the markup and ways of Wikipedia just sort of grows on you over time... there are some guidelines which can help out (WP:STYLE, etc). But mainly, with the links, you have to make sure not to over link, for instance if you have one link to Crimea another one to Crimea later on in the next paragraph doesn't need to be linked again.. --ddima (talk) 23:25, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
There are some pictures that could be of interest in the sources I mention in the article, but I need to get the approval from the authors first. I will try to , it should be not a problem. Do you live in Crimea? Do you think it would be possible to get a picture of the Church of the Italians in Kerch? --Silvio1973 (talk) 04:51, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
Actually, no. I live in the United States. I've been to Crimea many times, but never to Kerch.. I might find some pictures online perhaps, and if they're free-use for use to use, then great --ddima (talk) 07:11, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Category Chernivtsi (collage)![edit]

I found this image uncategorized and added a category. Feel free to remove/change it!--Tito Dutta (Send me a message) 21:00, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

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Templates[edit]

Hey. Check out {{Regions of Ukraine}}, I've updated it to something more streamlined and a lot simpler to read. As such, I really don't think there is a need for {{Administrative divisions of the Ukrainian SSR}} since they are essentially the same thing (I've added a bottom row with the former subdivisions) and currently there are two templates taking up space when we can have just one. What do you say?

I would recommend we keep {{History of Ukraine}} and {{Ukrainian statehood}} together as well, since in all reality they are one and the same thing. Ideally, I see the difference between these two templates, where {{History of Ukraine}} would have articles along the lines of History of Ukraine (1922-1991) and History of Ukraine (1991-Present) as well as events (Ukraine during World War I), with {{Ukrainian statehood}} having articles on the nation-states themselves (as it is now). But we are quite a long way away from having those articles and I figure it is best to keep them merged together for now (until a larger influx of Ukrainian Wikipedia editors!!).

Wow! I love the look of the template "Regions of Ukraine". It looks simply great. Some changes should be made, though. It would be better to rename the template to more general description such as subdivisions of Ukraine (currently titled as such, but named differently). Also, some categories are out place. For example, there is no difference between districts of cities with special status or any other cities, all those districts are created in the individual discretion of city government, thus, categories "Districts of cities with special status" and "Districts of regional cities" should be combined into one. Moreover, the city districts pretty much are the same level of subdivision as a conventional districts in Ukraine. I should point out also to the fact that the template does not include an important category of cities of raion (district) significance. That is a unique category for all cities other than of special status and of regional significance. Those cities usually are small and along with urban settlement can be considered as towns, yet unlike those urban settlements, they have a degree of autonomy within a district jurisdiction where they are located. There is very little information available about those cities and analysis of the category. Other than that the template looks more than wonderful - it's simple, easy on an eye, and very informative covering all major aspects of the administrative division of modern Ukraine. Great job!!! Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:18, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
I've made some tweaks to the template. Merged the two raions (cities w/ special status and cities w/ regional importance together). The only reason I had them separate was because of the way KOATUU had them listed (separately). You're right, either way they are one and the same thing. I also tried to make it easier for the reader by changing "District city" to "District-level city" since it would be easy to confuse the former with "City district" for readers who are not familiar with the administrative scheme of Ukraine. Either way they need to re-do the entire administrative scheme of the country from scratch since all of this confusion is left over from Soviet times!
What do you say about {{Ukrainian statehood}}? Facebook like thumb.png DDima 18:15, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Great! But there is no need to create a fourth level. Rural settlements (selyshche) do not have any forms of representation or governments, they are like oscillated neighborhoods and usually are part of some settlement council, may it be urban (including city) or rural. I designed a table in the main article about the administrative divisions of Ukraine#Structure based on the 2001 Ukrainian Census. Frankly it is a certain degree of original research as there are no such tables and was created out of a personal perspective. For simplicity the administrative division in Ukraine is based on a structure: region-district-council. Council or "rada" (local name) is a representative body of any settlement and it was inherited from the Soviet administration. Districts are divided into several rural councils (silrada) and/or include other entities such as city councils (miskrada) of district-level cities (district significance) and settlement councils (selyshchna rada). Settlement councils always correspond to urban settlements, therefore other settlements that exist as part of rural councils are not taken into consideration and not mentioned in the Constitution of Ukraine. However that conclusion is based on my own perception and should be reviewed by a real expert, yet I came to it after reading various legislative materials of Verkhovna Rada and conducted a separate web research on the matter. But one should be aware of a fine difference between administrative division and a simple locality. Anyway I hope you will understand where I am coming from. At any rate the look of the template as I said before is terrific and provides an additional appeal aside of technicalities. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Blueprint Barnstar 2.PNG The Template Barnstar
I award this blueprint Barnstar as a token of appreciation to DDima for his great efforts designing multiple wonderful templates in regards to administrative divisions of Ukraine. Thank you. Keep up the great work, stay on course! Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:46, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Once I ran across some article about the cities of district significance and wanted to interpret it into the Anglophone Wikipedia, but just did not find a time. It is a great article that explained history and reason on creating of such an entity. Maybe later... There also some discussion and I believe a bill on the administrative reform in Ukraine. So, maybe there will be more changes in a future. Considering all your contribution, I feel like you should be aware of all that if did not. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 18:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks I appreciate it! I think I've spent more time and effort on designing the templates in my entire wiki-career than writing articles themselves.. Anyway, yeah the whole admin. structure is hard to understand (I still struggle with it sometimes lol) but you seem to have a better grasp of it! I removed the fourth level and tweaked it again "urban-type settlements" >>> "settlement councils" since we are sticking with the region-district-council method.
I've been considering re-writing the entire series of Administrative divisions of Ukraine to reflect consistency between names and terminology because the way it is now only you and me can understand it :) as for the casual reader.. I'm sure they will have a more difficult time understanding.. Anyway, for the past year I've been working on creating articles on Urban-type settlements and lately creating Raion articles for those that don't exist. Facebook like thumb.png DDima 19:14, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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I fixed the link for Independence Day of Ukraine, but the other ones I believe you can add yourself, there shouldn't be any protection level on there.. Just make a quick sentence for it, something eye catching! They also have their own criteria for including these articles, like the main article the date links to can't be a stub.. just as long as you make the main article Ukraine and just link to the other ones (Constitution, Flag Day) you should be fine! Good job on the articles, I think if Independence Day of Ukraine is expanded a bit it can qualify for WP:DYK.. Facebook like thumb.png DDima 02:59, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your linking and tips! I feel that I can not expand Independence Day of Ukraine further without going into un-encyclopedic Trivia territory... — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 16:26, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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Template:Ukrainian statehood[edit]

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The reason for the template was to demonstrate the development of the Ukrainian statehood. I do not see how both templates History of Ukraine and Ukrainian statehood are the same. The template on history of Ukraine is all mess as it is just a collection of topics in chronological order connected only with the national idea. The collection consists of selected events and collection of some random countries such as Hunnic Empire and Khazars that have little or no real relevance to Ukraine. Can you really explain how and why Yamana culture or Cimmerians relate to Ukraine, but then Pechenegs, Circasians, and Karakalpaks do not? I just wonder why the template does not mention dinosaurs that existed on the territory of Ukraine. There were mammoths, I heard. Now jokes aside, I must point that there more archaeological topics related to ancient history. Also there are some random geographical concepts such as Right and Left banks of Ukraine. The template definitely needs a major redevelopment.

Now the template on statehood introduces the reader not only with the national idea, but also how the idea of statehood to which Ukraine traveled so many years. It also shows how and why Ukraine was divided and the reason for its reunification in 1919. The template on statehood is not only and exclusively a historical template, but rather is geopolitical. It also does not confuse a reader with some stuff that took place thousands years before and events that would be part of a separate template. I really do not like such purging of the template and hope for your reconsideration or at least your opinion. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:56, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

To me, the Statehood template looked like the History template in many ways, give or take a few links. Many of them are present in both of these templates, and I felt it was excessive to have both templates on some of those pages. I feel like there are too many templates as it is and we could cut down on them if anything. I would recommend making the Statehood template look similar to the History template so that it can "collapse it" and let it take up less room on the page as some of these pages are pretty short, and inserting a large bulky template makes them quite unsightly..
Also, if we are to keep it strictly to "statehood" entities, then I suggest removing such links as Soviet resistance or the Golden Horde; while the former does deal with Ukraine directly, it really wasn't a statehood entity... and the Golden Horde can't be considered a Ukrainian statehood entity much like the notion that "Moscow is the capital of Poland.." But then again, we need to introduce a link to Ukrainian State in {{Ukrainian statehood}} since that pertains to the topic quite well.. then again, it is also present in the History template, which is why I merged them in the first place, since both of these templates cover very similar topics and have many of the links that the other one has and vice versa..
Honestly, I think it would be best to do away with both of them altogether and leave them for a few main pages {{History of Ukraine}} obv. on a page like History of Ukraine and so on.. They just make the articles too cluttered and take up a lot of room IMHO.. Facebook like thumb.png DDima 06:30, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
I like the way is the {{Polish statehood}} template. I agree that the template needs some revision. There should be an article about the Golden Horde period on the territory of the East Ukraine, therefore I added Desht-i Qipchaq along with the Grand Duchy of Ruthenia. There is a very interesting subject on the history of Ruthenia about intercultural and diplomatic relations with Cumans, certain tribes of which were at service of the Grand Duchy of Ruthenia. I am a strong believer that there was more to it than a constant stance of war between nomads and the Medieval Kiev. What was the reason behind the establishment of the Crimean Khanate by the Tatar diaspora (Lipka Tatars) from Vilnius?
Also I used a Latin name variation rather than the transliterated Russian derivative which sets certain degree of confusion and implies the direct inheritance of statehood from the political polity based in Kiev to the political polity based in Moscow. Grand Duchy of Ruthenia was split (disintegrated) soon after the establishment of the Golden Horde empire by the mid 13th century. By the 15th century most of those territories allied either on a side of the Grand Duchy of Moscow or the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Ruthenia and Samogotia. Some other territories ended up as part of other states as for example the Kingdom of Ruthenia that was occupied by a number of other European states (Poland, Hungary).

Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 17:55, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

Districts of Kiev[edit]

I do not really care about raions or districts, but Kiev has way to many neighborhoods and they are not part of the official administrative division. More over, it is consistent with the same content in other languages. I think it is a good idea to keep separate historical localities and actually designated admin. divisions. Many raions of Kiev city coincide in a way with their historical toponyms, but in actuality are two different things. In my opinion neighborhoods should be separate and be part of the category Districts of Kiev or Raions of Kiev. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:19, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

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Beautiful talent[edit]

Aloha from Maui, Hawaii!

I just wanted to say I enjoy your photos very much and I am thinking of creating a blog for moms. If I do, I may reach out to ask you for permission to use a photo of yours.

Blessings, Athena Moberg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.77.99 (talk) 23:11, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Ukrainian oblast divisions[edit]

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Kam'yanka[edit]

Dear,

You are renamed Kam'yanka article to Kamianka.[2] But instead Kamianka map shows Kam'yanka.[3]

May be better if you return the article name Kam'yanka? --80.93.119.33 (talk) 19:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

File:UPA.jpg[edit]

Hi! Could you please clear the history of the image from three vandalism versions? --Krystofer (talk) 18:53, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

What vandalism are you talking about? I looked and could not find any kind of vandalism.. Facebook like thumb.png DDima 19:05, 14 October 2013 (UTC)


Vorontsov Palace (Alupka)[edit]

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Thieving[edit]

Can you work out how to legally steal this image from the Russian wikipedia [4]  Giano  21:43, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

and this one from Ukrainian Wikipedia [5].  Giano  21:48, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks I found them; I was only looking on the main category page at Commons. When you have time please can you check the references about "the style being newer the further from the gates" I think it should probably be more eastern or Islamic (I've taken a chance and altered t in the page anyway. It also says Scottish Baronial which I have left in, but I dont see any Scotish Baronial there at all.

I would like to prove a connection with Blore to this English house Sezincote House as I suspect it may have been the inspiration, I wold love to know if Blore was approaching the Islamic architecture from a purists point of view or from the Anglo-Indian architecture perspective; I'm think it's the latter. However, until we know for sure, we have to call it Islamic rather than the Anglo-Indian which it really is. It would be nice to get almost to FA standard if the not the whole way  Giano  11:07, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I was leaning towards Anglo-Indian as well , but we can't be too sure without a good source, Doing a quick google search on Edward Blore brings up a nice book "Towers of Crim Tartary: English and Scottish Architects and Craftsmen in the Crimea, 1762-1853" There is a whole chapter devoted to Edwards Blore and Count Vorontsov.... Unfortunately there's no book preview available and I'm not sure where I can pick that book up! I'm sure it would have some great finds, though. Facebook like thumb.png DDima 07:59, 24 November 2013 (UTC)
I haven't forgotten the Vorontsov Palace; I am just really short of time. I have the Towers of Crim book, and there is a lot of good reliably referenced information. I just need time to work on it. Regards  Giano  15:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
I totally understand, much the same situation here. I just got back online editing in over a month being gone, and saw the text you added... looking good! Facebook like thumb.png DDima 17:42, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

uk.wikipedia.org[edit]

Can we do something about it? From several weeks, when I want to go to the Ukrainian Wikipedia I type in "uk..." and the browser leads me to the English site. I think, we should intervene. At least "ua.wikipedia.org" should lead somwhere. Rembecki (talk) 12:16, 25 November 2013 (UTC).

Hmm, not sure. What browser are you using? Because on all of mine it works just fine and that link takes me to the Ukrainian Wikipedia. Besides, wiki uses language codes for its http addresses so that's why a country code like ua probably won't fly. Can you try to clear your browsers' cache and cookies? Facebook like thumb.png DDima 17:11, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Now I can see that it happens only from one specific computer, from Firefox browser. I will have to check the settings. Cheers, Rembecki (talk) 17:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC).

Photo of Czernowitz[edit]

Hello Ddima,

ich saw your photo

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chernivtsi_Theatre_2007.JPG

and I am looking for a photo of http://muzejew.org.ua/Koncept-De.html the house where today (since 2008) a jewish museum is.

I just have written

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Museum_f%C3%BCr_j%C3%BCdische_Geschichte_und_Kultur_der_Bukowina

and would like to have a photo of the museum there.

Thanks + best regards from the rhineland --Neun-x (talk) 06:07, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

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Feodosia[edit]

You've moved the article back to Feodosiya claiming its "undiscussed on talk page". Please take a look at here. I've requested a move and there was a clear consensus to move the article to "Feodosia". --Երևանցի talk 23:00, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

My mistake, sorry. I didn't even realize there was a RM, otherwise I wouldn't have gone ahead with it. Facebook like thumb.png DDima 03:55, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
No problem. We all make mistakes. By the way, your FAs and GAs are pretty impressive. Nice work! --Երևանցի talk 04:01, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! I've seen your work with regards to Armenia as well, it's just as great! Cheers, Facebook like thumb.png DDima 04:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

1954 transfer of Crimea[edit]

Hi, thank you for adding 1954 transfer of Crimea to the Ukranian project. As you read Ukrainian, are there any articles on this event in the Ukrainian or Russian Wikipedia that this could profitably have an interwiki link for?

JASpencer (talk) 19:02, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for creating the article! It's been long overdue! I believe with the correct information and TLC, it can be a good article! Btw, I see the iw links have already been added.. Cheers, Facebook like thumb.png DDima 03:29, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for that, Wikipedia does work. Is there a Ukrainian article on this? JASpencer (talk) 10:08, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Elections in Ukraine[edit]

Hi DDima, you are invited to Talk:Elections in Ukraine#List of elections. — Petr Matas 11:23, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing that up on talk. I responded there accordingly. Cheers, Facebook like thumb.png DDima 16:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hi DDima, I was wondering how you were using a file in your signature. I thought using files in signatures was against the sig policy. Just curious. Regards, —  dainomite   07:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Crimea[edit]

Dear DDima, please note that the fact that you are an administrator does not give you the right to abuse your powers. Please stop reverting the edits on this page. Crimea is de jure an autonomous republic within Ukraine, but de facto is already a federal subject of Russia. As a Ukrainian, I feel rotten to make this statement myself, but Wikipedia shall reflect reality, even when we do not like it. With all respect. Thanks for understanding — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.110.39.166 (talk) 21:15, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Novoselytsia Raion[edit]

Of course, I much appreciate the corrections. Eventually, I'd like to do all 20 raions in Chernivtsi Oblast and the Budjak portion of Odessa Oblast, but as you say, it's a rather time-consuming endeavor. - Biruitorul Talk 18:04, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Compatibility of Ukraine, Russian, and Crimea pages[edit]

Hi DDima; Now that the page count stats at the Crimea page have started to settle down, it seemed time to start to bring the three related pages into some degree of agreement (Russia, Ukraine, Crimea). This morning when I looked at the Crimea page it was marked with templates and requests to clarify the current Russian military occupation in Crimea and various U.N. votes regarding Crimea. By looking at both the Ukraine page and the Russia page, I then constructed a minimum edit to at least answer the template request for why Russia has troops in Crimea. The previous version was too threadbare and bereft of dates and cites to even answer that simple question. User:DeC appears to be concerned about over-"tinkering" by other editors, but the page count stats suggest that this is longer a problem (it was different last month). User:DeC still has concerns. Could you glance at this? FelixRosch (talk) 21:35, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Honestly, I've always tried to stay as far as I could from such high-profile articles (at least until the dust settles, but at this rate--it could well pick up again) Anyways, I agree, there should be some form of consistency between the articles, but we will all need to keep tabs on them to make sure they stay that way because every day it's something different. Some event happens and one article says one thing and another says another.
User:RGloucester has brought up on talk that we should remove the #Politics section from the main Crimea article altogether--and I agree. It just seems like it will get too messy with us having to list the constitutional structure/laws/events of both Crimeas, where they could just as easily be described in detail in their own respective articles. Maybe a political blurb will suffice--just a small sentence or two that describes the complexity of the situation, but leaves more for the reader to be desired, where they can go to the main article and read up about it. § DDima 03:37, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Subdivisions of cities in Ukraine[edit]

DDima, my intentions are to provide an easy navigation for all subdivisions for each respective city. Note, not populated places, but rather subdivisions. Populated places in Donetsk are subordinated to the city's raions, for which I am creating separate navigation boxes that contain the populated places related to that or another raion. Let's not pile up all in one big mess. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 02:17, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

What are your thoughts on that? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:12, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I see your point. It sure has much less clutter that way. It's the same approach we took with the oblast templates a while back.. I was just trying to get them under the same format like the rest of the district templates (including every locality, settlement). But when you started to create the respective Donetsk district templates, it makes sense to remove all the minor villages and settlements altogether. § DDima 03:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
DDima, I think, [Template:Donetsk] needs to be renamed into [Template:Donetsk municipality] (it was my mistake) under the established oblast template format or maybe it would be simpler to add a generic navigation template. Also, the use of oblast format templates would be appropriate for the cities with district subdivisions, while other cities of regional significance (conditionally referring to them as municipalities) could be edited with templates of Ukrainian district format. What are your thoughts? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:53, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Could be, because {{Donetsk}} itself could become a template of just city-related topics (much like {{Lviv-related topics}} or {{Odessa}} is today).
Agreed. Because if we use the oblast template format, then it would be possible to list all of the city's districts, and main cities (if they have any)--which is what the Donetsk template looks like right now. Since the other regional cities don't have districts, there would be no need for the creation of further templates (much like you are doing right now) that would include all of the towns/villages/settlements in their own respective city districts. § DDima 04:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
There's just so much work to do with Ukrainian subdivisions! If you ever wander over to the Polish-related articles or other countries, they had bots create a bunch of stubs with the information that was fed to them from their own language Wikipedias. If only we had a bot that would create a bunch of these articles and help, because otherwise, I'm doing them by hand, and I get a little carried away sometimes. Lately, I just can't force myself to create a stub, or if it starts out as a stub--it always ends up a decent article. § DDima 04:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
See, the thing that bugs me is that when using {{Ukrainian oblast}} for the city administrative divisions templates, then a few kinks appear--the template's "below" field at the bottom links to nonexistent categories and sections (by sections I mean the List of urban-type settlements in Ukraine by subdivision). It works well with oblast templates, since the oblasts do have urban-type settlements and it is helpful to the reader by linking to the list, but when {{Cherkasy municipality}} is created, then it's an unnecessary link at the bottom since the city municipality doesn't even urban-type settlements under their jurisdiction. I'm thinking about changing how and when the "below" field appears, because right now its automatic and comes from the mother template (my smart ass wrote the template that way) § DDima 04:49, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
DDima, I know therefore I am seeking some consensus. May be it is possible to add some switch to the template. It is just all populated places are in a big mess. Some cities are identified as towns, some do not have infobox, some like Mospyne is part of Donetsk city, while it is not identified as such and there are many other issues with categorization and consistency. Doing all these corrections by hand, I agree, is a monstrous workload. I wish more people would be involved in it.
Also, talking about consistency, the more I write articles in the English wikipedia, the more I lean to the thought that may be all Ukrainian administrative division terms should be simply translated in English otherwise it only adds confusion and diminish a reading appeal. It seems that the term city of regional significance (Ukraine) corresponds to the English equivalent municipality, but on the other hand the Polish related articles introduced such terms as urban gmina (if I am not mistaken) which seems more related to the Ukrainian term. Writing "city of regional significance" is cumbersome and in a way disruptive during a reading, "regional city" is brief but is not widely used. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 14:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I added a switch to the template (all you gotta do is write "| below = " and that's that; it removes the useless bottom bar for the municipalities).
I know, it it sure is cumbersome writing out the full terminology.. Interesting what the PL wiki did with regards to that, I haven't taken a look at it quite yet. If we write articles with "regional cities" then will we be distinguishing the rest as "district cities" or just leave them as they are right now?
But then again, if you take a look at what User:Ezhiki did with the Russian regional cities at City of federal subject significance, it appears that the article translates the Russian text directly as it is translated word for word (some of the cities listed in that article are called" urban okrugs," some are "cities under republic jurisdiction," etc, with no one-size-fits-all umbrella term). At one time I was trying to write up such an article, but gave up due to this exact same issue. I just have a feeling that tinkering around with the terminology and using a "more convenient one" for us could be going against WP's Original Research policy, which prohibits "original ideas, defining terms, coining new words, etc." What do you think? § DDima 04:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Accusations of Russia 'invading' Crimea[edit]

I had adjusted the text to reflect the fact that Russia did not invade Crimea. The identity of the pro-russian militia is disputed, however Russia has officially repeated that they did not send troops into Crimea (except the recognised Russian military bases) and Putin also said that Russia did not train them... however I guess it is possible that some of the individuals involved could have served in the Russian millitary (purely my though - no evidence just a bit of logic). Plenty of references for this if you avoid the BBC, CNN...Hechos (talk) 06:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

What kind of references? They're obviously going to be skewed towards their propaganda. BBC and CNN are very reliable sources and are well respected in the international community. So basically Russia didn't invade the Crimea? And Crimea is now "part" of which country? Russia can say anything it wants, but it doesn't mean that it's true. Yes, news is slanted everywhere, but no where is it as blatant and full of disinformation as the Russian "sources" are. Must look outside of the box and look at the big picture, aside from politics and propaganda. § DDima 06:46, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
BBC and CNN being very reliable sources is not really true either. If you look at the previous major international crisis in which their respective governments (UK and US) had a role, ie the War in Iraq, you'll see that they also ran articles on how Saddam was conspiring with Al-Qaeda, how he was trying to buy yellowcake uranium from Nigeria, etc. Basically fabricated propaganda supporting their governments' point of view. In times and contexts like these not a single source is reliable and/or unbiased, neither Russian nor Western. Neither Russia Today, nor BBC nor CNN has any track record of avoiding engaging in a propaganda war when it suited them, and there's no reason to believe that this time it is any different.2A02:A03F:1A83:C00:BE5F:F4FF:FE1E:F54A (talk) 19:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Basically, if you avoid normal news sources. --Львівське (говорити) 06:43, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
Just because somebody claims CNN and BBC very reliable, it does not make then necessarily very reliable but proves political propaganda. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 13:01, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Zoloti Vorota (Kiev Metro)[edit]

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Crimean Tatar Language[edit]

Maybe this is what you're looking for; but the refs will stay, it's important to verify the official language status in those regions

Yes, so will much better. --Jugydmort (talk) 09:11, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Subsection blanking at "Russia" page dealing with annexation.[edit]

Hi DDima: During the last two or three days I had noticed a subsection blanking at the Russia page dealing with the annexation. After the section blanking, there was a full rewrite added by another user and a substantial change of NPOV compared to the text before the section blanking. No new information was added, yet the NPOV was substantially altered. The diff for the before and after of the section blanking is below. I tried to return the wording into neutral form. User:Irin seems to disagree about preserving neutrality. Could you look at this?

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Location map[edit]

DDima, with this new renovations in wikipedia, it became impossible to created location maps for regions in Ukraine. Is there anything that you can do or suggest about it. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 12:57, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

@Aleksandr Grigoryev: Why is it impossible to create such a map? I know a few maps were created since the update, and I don't see any possible problem. Jackmcbarn (talk) 18:22, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Do you mean you got a message that looked like this when you tried to create it?
If you got that message, it means you were trying to create Template:Location map Ukraine Donetsk Oblast. You should be creating Module:Location map/data/Ukraine Donetsk Oblast. For an example of one of these, see Module:Location map/data/Belgium. For detailed instructions, see Template:Location map/Creating a new map definition. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:22, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm not really sure what that was about. I didn't even know that there was a "Module" namespace in Wikipedia... Changes, changes. Appears that it works fine now, § DDima 17:49, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

User talk page edit request[edit]

Howdy,

This message is being sent to multiple recipients. I've semiprotected the article Arseniy Yatsenyuk due to an ongoing edit war. In the future, please contact the IP on the talk page to prevent further edit wars. Please let me know if you have any questions! Nakon 06:23, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, you beat me to it. I've already messaged the anon, hopefully something constructive comes out of it and the disruptive editing stops. Cheers, § DDima 06:26, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit wars occur when people adopt a one-sided position that their edits are somehow justified, regardless of the substantiation or lack thereof. You need to spend time and carefully review the sources offered. Popular sentiment is essential when contributing to the material on a political figure. If a proportion of population expresses discontent about a public figure, this should be clearly indicated. Sanitizing the description of a public official smacks of significant bias. --71.39.6.142 (talk) 21:03, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Need a mediation[edit]

User Mondolkiri1, posting in infobox biased and speculative information in regards to current events such as involvement of the Right Sector in the 2014 pro-Russian unrest in Ukraine. There is reference by ITAR-TASS that claims that a business card of the organization was found in completely burned down vehicle (I mean the whole car burnt down except for the card). Now based only on the reference the user claims involvement of the above mentioned organization. The user apparently was posing threats against me instead of finding a common ground when I addressed the issue at his talk page. Could, please, take a look at it and provide me with an advice on the issue? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Hmm. I don't see the threats he made. But regardless, that "conspiracy" that PS participated in the attack shouldn't be in the article in any way, shape, or form. The best thing about Wiki is consensus--I didn't see anything on the talk page regarding this, so let's bring it up there. And unless we all agree that PS should be included in the infobox, that information will stay out of the article (as it should, because that business card was deliberately planted there!). Otherwise, if, without consensus, he keeps including that information and keeps reverting our stable neutral version, then that would qualify as a 3RR. I'll keep an eye out for that. § DDima 03:45, 23 April 2014 (UTC)


Subsection on Crimea encapsulation is vanishing[edit]

Hi DDima; Thank for your correction edits at the Russia page. Recently, I noticed that the subsections on "Annexation of Crimea and 2014 Geneva Pact" has become almost comically short. After further deletions by other editors, the subsection now does not even give the date of the 2014 Geneva Pact which is a part of the subsection title. My thought was to possibly revert to some safe point a few days ago so that the subsection would at least present a neutral version of the facts, and not to pretend that there is some sort of historical encapsulation of events magically between 21Feb2014 and 21March2014. Possibly you have had some thoughts about this neutral version issue. This is the diff of what looks like a safe point on the "Russia" page to find the last neutral reversion of the subsection:

18:40, 29 April 2014‎ Sery... (talk | contribs)‎ . . (204,369 bytes) (+77)‎ . . (→‎Political divisions: As of April 2014 Constitution DOES list them, just not translated everywhere (to other langs) yet)

Could you glance at this? FelixRosch (talk) 20:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sergei Ivanovich Vasiliev[edit]

Hello! The article, which has been recently put for deletion was kept, conclusion – "no consensus". However, my arguments for a few days were not commented by anyone, neither participants of the discussion (although, it was edited), nor administration. I have considered each source used in the article. Some were affiliate, some non-authoritative, and some did not comply with the WP: GNG rule "Significant coverage". I am not in any kind of relations with other participants of the discussion, this may be easily checked. Do hope for your comments and help. May be it is worth to put an article for deletion again, using my arguments and taking in account other people's opinion? Because the conclusion "no consensus" is not quite right: its absence or presence were not demonstrated. Arguments were simply ignored. Can you give any comments about arguments?VolgaCamper (talk) 07:08, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Ethnic cleansing of Circassians[edit]

Hello! Could you please check Ethnic cleansing of Circassians page for vandalism. LouisAragon`s actions are definitely politically motivated. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.108.83.124 (talk) 18:28, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Femen/Euromaidan/Odessa[edit]

There is no "rumor" in my update to the Femen page, and everything is sourced:

1) There was a massacre committed by Maidan supporters on May 2nd

2) Femen in Ukraine (where Femen was founded) currently supports Maidan

3) Femen leader poses for photo in front of May 2nd Maidan attack on anti-government demonstrators

There is even the extra clarification that there are no direct ties to Femen participating in the massacre.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FEMEN&oldid=609727749#Ukrainian_issues

184.23.29.60 (talk) 22:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Femen/Euromaidan/Odessa[edit]

Additionally, it is directly related.

If a leader of, say, the activist group Code Pink (who do attention-grabbing protests in the U.S.) posed for a photo in front of a fire started by violent radicals who burned and killed dozens of political opponents (opponents of the radicals and Code Pink), a mention of that would most certainly be relevant and "directly related" for the Code Pink wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FEMEN&oldid=609727749#Ukrainian_issues

Look at the Code Pink page. There are clearly references to controversies having to do with leaders of the group. And the Tucker Carlson one doesn't even have to do with Code Pink at all, but she is a leader of the group, so it ended up on the Code Pink page.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_Pink#Tucker_Carlson_interview

184.23.29.60 (talk) 22:52, 22 May 2014 (UTC)


Please, see my reply to your note to me at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:184.23.29.60#FEMEN.

184.23.29.60 (talk) 23:20, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Discussion of Rumors[edit]

RE: “Wikipedia is not the place to discuss rumors” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:184.23.29.60#FEMEN)

The text added to Femen page (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FEMEN&oldid=609727749#Ukrainian_issues) is not a rumor since only 3 facts were stated, 4 if you count the “no direct evidence” statement, but as for Wikipedia not being the place for rumors, I beg to differ:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S_Secure_Solutions#Rumors_about_Wackenhut_and_the_CIA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstar_%28spacecraft%29#Discussions_of_similar_aircraft

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hojjatieh#Rumored_members_and_sympathizers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_Carnage:_Genesis#Enemies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadaver_Society#Membership

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_%28aircraft%29 (entire page based on a rumor)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Wintour#Politics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%9312_Southeastern_Conference_realignment#2011-2012

All include clear discussions of rumors. One entire page listed is only a discussion of a rumor. I'm sure there are more whole pages just like that. I found those references in just a couple of minutes. I could go on and on.

Although, again, the Femen update included absolutely no rumors. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:184.23.29.60#FEMEN for a breakdown of the facts.

Please, do not merely delete my contribution and then wash your hands of it and walk away.

184.23.29.60 (talk) 23:56, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

We are not discussing other articles, we are merely discussing FEMEN itself. Alleging that someone participated in a what you call "a massacre" where many people were killed breaks Wikipedia's BLP policy, which states in a nutshell: "Material about living persons added to any Wikipedia page must be written with the greatest care and attention to verifiability, neutrality, and avoidance of original research."
The reference you added is not a credible source of information to back up the claim that the FEMEN leader participated in that "so called massacre." Please find credible sources and don't waste time on such speculation. If this is such a big deal to you, bring it up with other editors and see what they say. You know my point of view on the topic and the other editor you contacted as well . Until it is credibly sourced, this kind of information should be kept out of the article. § DDima 00:30, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

I am not going to carry on in two different threads with you. You, and others, can follow and contribute at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:184.23.29.60#FEMEN.

I will conclude here, though, that I find it highly offensive for you to refer to dozens of people being burned alive as a "so called massacre". I believe that reveals your bias in this matter, and that your revolving Wikipedian justifications for hiding my contribution are simply a whitewash to cover your bias, because the text I added in no way states that the Femen leader "participated" in the killings (other than posing for a photo in front of a fire as the attack was occurring).

184.23.29.60 (talk) 01:44, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:46, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

List of villages in Crimea listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect List of villages in Crimea. Since you had some involvement with the List of villages in Crimea redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. TheChampionMan1234 23:25, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Donetsk People's Republic Flag[edit]

Hi, when I created the Donetsk People's Republic Flag article, I did not know that there was another article with the same name. Can you link me the first article as I could not locate the first article when I made the second article. Elevatorrailfan (talk) 04:09, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

It's okay! The first article was located at Flag of the Donetsk People's Republic; however, since Wikipedia consensus has established that it should be deleted (deletion discussion here), it's no longer available. Hope that helps, § DDima 04:57, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm kind of confused, was the deletion of the page I made a mistake? If so, should I re add the page? Elevatorrailfan (talk) 03:56, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Images from Ivan Bohun article[edit]

I've raised the question on the talk page of the article. But it seems, you meant your talk page.

There are three images in this article. All based on hypothetical "imagenery likeness", which with changing title could easily resemble any Cossack. All very poorly drawn. The first two show that artists are not even familiar with Registered Cossack clothes. For example the one "during battle of Berestechko", clearly was supposed to be wearing kontush. Apart from cuts in the sleeves, it looks nothing like kontush. The third one is clearly drawn based on Bohun's image in movie "With Fire and Sword", which is better and in a way more accurate than the other two. But still the article would look better/more accurate without all of them.

Yes, there are a lot of articles with hypothetical portraits of people drawn way after their death. Yet they usually tend to be a work of art, with proper historical knowledge on the subject (for eg. Jan Matejko, Józef Brandt, Illia Repin etc). While images in this article look nothing like that. And I'd say they rather resemble something known as "sharovashchyna" style, which actually misleads people rather give them proper knowledge on the subject. 178.151.232.36 (talk) 19:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)Alex

Precious[edit]

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Ukraine
Thank you, Dima, for quality articles about Ukrainian topics, such as early Khreshchatyk and St. Michael's Golden-Domed Monastery, for featured Portal:Ukraine, for gnomish tasks such as moving pages according to transliteration and assessing, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:20, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:Shakhtarsk Raion[edit]

Hi, you might be interested in expanding some of my new stubs.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:29, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for starting them up, will take a look at. § DDima 16:06, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of 500th Anniversary of the Zaporozhian Cossacks for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 500th Anniversary of the Zaporozhian Cossacks is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/500th Anniversary of the Zaporozhian Cossacks until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Gbawden (talk) 12:49, 28 July 2014 (UTC)