User talk:Dan56

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Late response to Grapple X[edit]

In response to your message on March 26, Grapple X, the editor who opposed the article's last and second to last FACs required of me an independent editor to go through all of the sources (which he said explicitly at the last one). That's clearly not practical, even though another editor concurred in the last one that there needs to be a "concerted effort" to address the former editor's points. I don't have or own any print source, I used Google Book's preview/search engine for all of them. I can transcribe some of them in their entirety, as I was able to do with this one for the Detroit Metro Times review by Kofi Natambu. I successfully went through a source check of print sources at my last FAC (for this article), so I don't feel there shouldn't be more good faith afforded to me this time around. Dan56 (talk) 04:23, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

FA congratulations[edit]

Just a quick note to congratulate you on the promotion of Marquee Moon to FA status recently. If you would like to see this (or any other FA) appear as "Today's featured article" soon (either on a particular date or on any available date), please nominate it at the requests page. If you'd like to see an FA appear on a particular date in the next year or so, please add it to the "pending" list. In the absence of a request, the article may end up being picked at any time (although with about 1,307 articles waiting their turn at present, there's no telling how long – or short! – the wait might be). If you'd got any TFA-related questions or problems, please let me know. BencherliteTalk 18:19, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Ditto for New York Dolls - you have been busy! Well done and thank you. BencherliteTalk 23:26, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Main Page appearance: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band[edit]

This is a note to let the main editors of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on June 21, 2014. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at present, please ask Bencherlite (talk · contribs). You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/June 21, 2014. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:

The Beatles

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is the eighth studio album by the English rock band the Beatles (pictured). Released on 1 June 1967, it was an immediate commercial and critical success. After the group retired from touring, Paul McCartney had an idea for a song involving an Edwardian era military band, and this developed into a plan to release an entire album as a performance by the fictional Sgt. Pepper band. Knowing they would not have to perform the tracks live, the Beatles adopted an experimental approach to composition, writing songs such as "With a Little Help from My Friends", "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" and "A Day in the Life". The producer George Martin's innovative recording of the album included the liberal application of signal processing. The cover, depicting the band in front of a collage of celebrities and historical figures, was designed by the English pop artists Peter Blake and Jann Haworth. One of the best-selling albums of all time, Sgt. Pepper is regarded as an important work of British psychedelia and an early concept album. One music scholar has described it as "the most important and influential rock and roll album ever recorded". (Full article...)

You (and your talk-page stalkers) may also be interested to hear that there have been some changes at the TFA requests page recently. Nominators no longer need to calculate how many "points" an article has, the instructions have been simplified, and there's a new nomination system using templates based on those used for DYK suggestions. Please consider nominating another article, or commenting on an existing nomination, and leaving some feedback on your experience. Thank you. UcuchaBot (talk) 23:02, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Aaliyah & Ariana Grande[edit]

RIAA proves that the "Aaliyah" album was released on July 17th, 2001 & "Yours Truly" September 3rd. I'm a major fan of both, I know this. You can look it up for yourself!

On why using "electronic" is a bad genre identifier[edit]

Basically, electronic music is way too much of an umbrella. It can mean almost anything (I am sure you will agree that while both Sutcliffe Jugend, The Human League, and Tangerine Dream all make electronic music, they sound nothing alike), and such it is of very little use when describing a specific release. The source does use the term, but writing it verbatim is being unfiltering. It's the same as merely calling an album "metal" or adding simply "rock" to the vast majority of modern subgenres of either: it adds no significant information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.190.31.149 (talk) 20:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Dan, here's the thing. So, OK, let's take at face value the fact that it's not merely synthpop. OK, I can deal with that. Most sources and fans will agree that it's still primarily a synthpop album, but let's ignore that. But my problem is that "electronic" is as much of a music genre as "brick" is an architectonic style or "verse" a literary current: sure there are lots of styles which focus on using bricks/verses/electronic sound sources, but standalone, they're just a building materials. So basically, if it's not merely synthpop, then we must find a source that states whatever it actually is. So, do you think I should open a topic in the talk page? 201.190.31.149 (talk) 05:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

How would you write this?[edit]

Hi Dan, I know you're probably quite busy at the moment, but if you have some time I was wondering if you could suggest a way to write the following. I'm working on Beyoncé and one of the reviews characterizes a particular producer's sound as containing "subdued pulses, ambient effects and throbbing grooves that sneak up on you, threatening to explode". I want to summarize this in the lead and have written "songs from these sessions were loosely structured and characterized by eccentric musical effects and grooves and diverse vocal styles...". I know this can be wrote more eloquently (your FAs summarise an album's production points brilliantly) and I'm throwing around terms like "musical idiosyncrasies", "textured effects", etc. but I can't seem to nail it. Any thoughts? —JennKR | 22:25, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

n.p. Firstly, Pulse (music) doesn't need to be paraphrased since it's unique enough a theory term IMO. I don't think the right adjective exists here since "subdued" and "ambient" mean different things than "throbbing", so maybe: "loosely structured and characterized by diverse vocal styles and musical effects", "diverse" I suppose applying to both the "vocal styles and musical effects". Hope that helps, good luck. Dan56 (talk) 22:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)