User talk:DancingPhilosopher

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Meta-Emotion

Interesting article. I am not sure, but believe that the long quotations in meta-emotions may be a copyright violation. If you can work around by paraphrasing or, better, summarizing the argument, and using less quoted material, then my concerns would be alleviated. You could ask for a check at WP:COPYVIO if that seems easier. If you have already investigated, put it on the talk page. I will ask for a check myself if this isn't resolved in a week or so.
--DCDuring 15:25, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

(Meta-)interesting header

While that is really an adorable header, I'm afraid I had to modify it for encyclopedic reasons. There's still plenty of room on Wikipedia for Wikipedia humor, though...
$\sim$ Lenoxus " * " 02:45, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Victimization Symptoms

any chance you can try to polish this article up. Thx.
--Penbat (talk) 21:32, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

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About my typo in Talk:Alessandra Kersevan

Yes of course I meant right-wing politicians. They always claim they're inspired by "freedom" but ultimately if you scratch their surface you'll notice that they just can't get rid of the old dear censorship. It's just in their DNA no matter how nice they dress up in public.
-- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 07:58, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Is Alessandra Kersevan a nationalist-POV pusher, too?

Direktor, I am glad you are allergic to nationalist POV-pushing. I am allergic even more to the repression of memory of what Fascist nationalistic government (much worse then mere POV-pushers) were doing to Slovenes (AND to other peoples) (in much greater extent then to Croats due to Slovenes being a smaller nation in comparison to Croats who were inhabiting larger territory, as well, and were not as much affected by Italian actions), a repression that has been after the WW II orchestrated by the government (again) of Italy with the help of the British government because they wanted (at any price) to prevent the Italian Communists from gaining the power in Italy (this is one of precius pieces of evidence of how far reaching the repression was and still is]) in the context of Cold War so they decided to prevent extradition of Italian war criminals, as the latest historiographic research done in British archives by the British historian Effie Pedaliu, the Friulan historian Alessandra Kersevan, and the Italian historian Davide Conti provided evidence for.

Are these historians - because they do what I do, too - pushing the repressed facts to the surface in order to counter the far-reaching repression, all a nationalist POV-pushers, too?

You can read this :) And isn't it funny that it took a "nationalist POV-pusher" (as you call me) that finally this was added to the Wikipedia article about one of the Mussolini's generals?! (The repression of memory seems to be really effective worldwide, huh?)

DancingPhilosopher ^{my talk} 11:15, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

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Map showing Slovene ethnic areas in the Julian March

Hey there. I've seen that you agree with my comment (which, I must reiterate, is based on purely factual observation) regarding the map showing the "exclusively" and "partially" Slovene ethnic areas in the Julian March region (1920-1947). I wonder why, despite acknowledging the veracity of my comment, you still insist in keeping it in the article. I guess this might be because you think that an incorrect map is still better than no map. I strongly disagree with this kind of reasoning: the map is simply inaccurate (not to mention the aesthetic aspect: its design is below average). Bottom line: it's inaccurate, misleading, and, on the top of everything (if I may add a subjective observation, which is nevertheless based on some objective criteria), it lacks any aesthetic appeal. Why insisting in keeping it? Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 14:40, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Hey! I have been working, for the whole past week (or it is two weeks already now :(... ), on mapping the traditional regions of Slovenia based on a detailed description you can read here (i.e. primarily a very detailed description of borders between the traditional region of the Upper Carniola and the rest of them). I needed to do this in order to be able to base the new map on the corrected map of traditional regions. The reason why I didn't want the old one to be removed is that I needed to be motivated by its shortcomings, correctly listed above by you, during the mapping process that required a lot of time, energy and stamina on my part, which I tend to lack sometimes (and not primarily because "an incorrect map is still better than no map"). The aesthetic appeal of the existing one, or better complete lack of it, is mainly a result of this map, drawn by Richard Andree (1835–1912), I based the ethnic distribution on when I made the old one. Today I have pretty much finished the new series of maps of traditional regions of Slovenia, but I plan to upload them in the next week. I will today, motivated by your comment, upload the one you commented to, above. Thanks. --DancingPhilosopher ^{my talk} 14:55, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

It seems that you engaged yourself in a quite tough task, congratulations. However, I hope you realize that in many cases, the borders of the traditional regions (insofar as they have never been institutionalized), are very flexible. Just take the Slovenian Littoral, for example: traditionally, prior to WWI, its eastern border (especially in the central area) was very different from how wee see it today, etc. Anyway, I hope you realized that we already have a map of Slovenian traditional regions; improvements are always welcome, of course: I'm just warning you, in the case you didn't realize that a map already exists and it is used in most of the respective articles. As for Andree's map, I have to warn you that regarding the Slovene ethnic border in Istria and in Carinthia (and, to a lesser extent, in the Gorizia region), it's just wrong: in Istria, the strip of land between Piran and Trieste, inhabited by Italians, is too wide. If you take the data of the Austrian census of 1910/11 (not only on the level of municipalities, but take into account the data for single villages), you see there's no continuous Italian settlement in north-eastern Istria. For example: the surroundings of Izola were already ethnically Slovene by a significant majority, many of the villages around Koper, as well. Viator slovenicus (talk) 19:00, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Tips how to do it

I've only now seen the new map, which you were probably referring to in your post. Congrats, it's not bad. However, it has some problems: in the Slovenian Littoral part, it's exactly the thing I mentioned in my previous comment (the strip of Italian-speaking areas in Istria is too wide, on the other hand it doesn't show clearly that Trieste was by a wide majority an Italian-speaking town); the Canale Valley was not entirely inhabited by Slovenes, who were a majority only in the villages of Ukve (Ugovizza), Ovčja vas (Valbruna), Lipalja vas (San Leonardo), and Žabnice (Camporosso). As for the borders of trad. regions: the whole Posavje is shown as being part of Dolenjska, which is wrong. The whole Zasavje is shown as being part of Styria, which is also wrong (Hrastnik and, I think, Trbovlje were Styrian, Zagorje and Izlake were (Upper) Carniolan). Nevertheless, I reiterate: it's a good map. It's just that I don't see the reason why showing provincial borders in a map on Slovenes in interwar Italy. In addittion, the map should make it clear that the rest of Slovenia was under Yugoslavia during that period, and that the Julian March region included also Istria, Trieste etc. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 19:09, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for making suggestions for further improvements of the map of traditional regions. I will put Zagorje and Izlake where you suggested. However, according to this observation by user Žiga (quoting him, the border was "po vrhu hribov nad reko"), Sava was not the border between Dolenjska and Štajerska. I didn't know where exactly this would be, so this needs to be figured out yet. Any suggestion?

Traditionally, the border between Carniola (Kranjska) and Styria (Štajerska) ran along the Sava Valley, up to around Radeče-Zidani Most, where they turned on the mountain ridge over the left bank of the river, leaving Hrastnik and Trbovlje in Styria, but the north-western part of Zasavje in Carniola. So, the Sava river was indeed the border between Dolenjska (=Dolnja Kranjska = Lower Carniola) and Styria. Viator slovenicus (talk) 16:10, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

As for the past ethnic distribution of Slovenes in the areas that are within present-day Italy, I based this part of map on the map shown on the left, created by Gap who was formerly known as user Tcie from Nabrežina. I would also like to ask you if you are willing to show me on an (interactive) drawing that I plan to make next week (and I will send you the link to its webpage), where exactly the ethnic borders in Canale Valley should be drawn on the map? Thanks. --DancingPhilosopher 10:04, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I know the map, it's a great one! I've used it in the (not yet finished) article Slovene minority in Italy. Canale Valley: I don't know how to explain it graphically, but to say it simply: there should be a "whole" in the middle of the valley, comprising most of the current municipality of Tarvisio: that, in fact, was by a large majority German-speaking (not due to Germanization in the 19th century: these were German settlers from the upper Middle Ages); the exception its westernmost area, around Žabnice (Camporosso in Valcanale) which was an almost entirely Slovene-speaking village; the area betwen Kokovo (Coccau) and Rabelj (Cave del Predil) in the north-south axis, and Tarvisio (including the town) and the current Italian-Slovenian border near Rateče, on the west-east axis, was a German-speaking linguistic island (an island because, unlike today, the area north from the valley, the Gailtal/Ziljska dolina, was Slovene-speaking up to at least the 1920s). Hope it helps, Viator slovenicus (talk) 16:10, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

Drawing a "whole" in the middle of the valley

I would very much appreciate if you would use the interactive drawing webpage to draw the "whole" the way it is explained on the image containing the tips how to do it, so I can correct the part with Canale Valley on the map. The link to the webpage will be (or it has - by the time you will read this - already been) sent to you via Wikipedia E-mail service. Thank you again. P.S. I have corrected the boundaries between Slovene traditional regions, too. --DancingPhilosopher ^{my talk} 14:05, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Ok, I'll enable it later in the week; in any case, now I have no time to check it anyway. Best, Viator slovenicus (talk) 16:22, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

Click to open the webpage which I initially wanted to send you a link to via email. Best, --DancingPhilosopher ^{my talk} 11:48, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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Reo ⁺ 15:25, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

My reply can be read over there at my Wikimedia Commons talk page. --DancingPhilosopher ^{my talk} 11:02, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Nice work on the Karen Ho page!

Sulfurboy (talk) 10:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for rewarding it so generously, Graham. I hope the kitten will be fine here, maybe she can play with the maps above :-)

-- DancingPhilosopher