User talk:Dangerous-Boy/Archive 2

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Re: Lex Hixon

Your deletion of the category of Hinduism is incorrect. I suggest we restore the category.

Lex Hixon was into Hinduism as well as Sufism. For example, we see from the article that "'In 1992, came the publication of Great Swan: Meetings With Ramakrishna. This book holds the key to unlock all my life experiences. It provides a bridge between East and West, a bridge which I have crossed in both directions and which many people will be able to cross comfortably, maintaining their intellectual, cultural and spiritual integrity. Essential secrets for the unfolding of cultural interaction and spiritual growth in the 21st century are encoded in this vibrant portrait. With Ramakrishna as our inspiration, our subtle task is to create a global society based on the intuitive sense of the Sacred, a society with rich diversity yet without boundaries." Lex_Hixon

You may wish to read Hixon's books, particularly:

  • Mother of the Universe: Visions of the Goddess and Tantric Hymns of Enlightenment (Re: Kali)
  • Coming Home: The Experience of Enlightenment in Sacred Traditions (Chapter two, discussing Ramakrishna and chapter three discussing Ramana Maharshi),

David Traver 13:21, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

That was a very clever solution. Thank you! David Traver 13:17, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

User box Hinduism

I just changed the color a bit to make it unique to Hinduism. Feel free to revert if you don't like. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:59, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Shri Kali Temple article

Hello, I finally created the Shri Kali Temple article. I don't have much information regarding the temple at this moment, but when I have gathered the information, I'll add more. Hintha 22:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)


Musicpvm created this template and has applied it to all Ramayana related pages obviously, but most of them also have the Hindu Myth template. Should the HinduMyth template go from these pages? GizzaChat © 06:24, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Asian Religions

I made a website which includes a chart of Asian religion interrelationships. I want to know if it is correct. Please, tell me if I made any mistakes on either the charts or the tree diagram. link to page -- Dark Tichondrias 07:17, 16 April 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the reply. -- Dark Tichondrias 08:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism in Canada

I just finnished a Stub article for the above per your request. Will update it as I get time. Thanks for the request.RaveenS 13:55, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism COTW

I created all templates required. I also posted current hcotw on Californian Hindu textbook controversy. Ganeshk (talk) 05:41, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


I trimmed it down. Made font a bit smaller.

Hope that looks better. Ganeshk (talk) 06:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Indian American Page

Maybe you did not realize I added two anthropology textbooks to back up the claims made about Asian genetics. You removed these two citations without explanation. I also added a link to my page on the history of India's racial classification. These were added to the middle of the page using the HTML code ref. This code adds them to the footnotes at the bottom of the page. This does not show up in the center of the page like you might have thought. The page only has a limited scope of India's racial classification by historical race scientists. Visitors will incorrectly assume India's racial classification has revolved around White or not White. My website clears this up by its breadth in historical racial classifications-- Dark Tichondrias 01:48, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Regarding use of Image:Tekkadead.PNG

Kindly remove this picture from your userpage as this is a fair use image which can only be used on respective articlespace. Use of this image on your userpage infringes copyrights. Regards, --Andy123(talk) 01:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Cats that I found

Hey, I just found Category:Gods by association and Category:Goddesses by association. There are subcats such as fortune, wisdom, river, solar, sky etc. All these cats are full of Greek, Roman, African and other god/desses but hardly any Hindu deities. Do you want to help me add them? GizzaChat © 08:52, 26 April 2006 (UTC)



I'm glad someone else is working to fix the mess of mish-match transliterations on Wikipedia! Please see Wikipedia_talk:Naming conventions (Indic) for my take on things. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 13:05, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I feel nice talking to you after along gap. I shall surely give my comments very soon. --Bhadani 16:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Vampire hunter D

I've just answered your questions about the date of bloodlust, you can have a look. By the way, as a reader of VHD, do you agree that the D in the story is just a blurred shadow of himself in the cartoon, in personality?

Naming conventions

Naming and transliteration to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Vedic)

Trying to a get a concensus on this. Your input is appreciated. I'm trying to move the naming and transliteration formating to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Vedic).--Dangerous-Boy 08:17, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I have made many additions. PLease have a look.Cygnus_hansa 08:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for your kind comment. Glad to receive encouragement on my talk page. :) --Squilibob 07:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Transliterations (Indic)


Sorry I've not been around to help. I'm just so swamped at the moment. I've got quite a bit of background with such matters so I'm sure I could help, but it might just take some time. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 00:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

More on transliterations

Sorry to be confusing. I'm in favour of merging into a page with the name 'Indic' in it, as agreed with you and Sukh (and me). But I'm not sure of the title for the transliteration policy, because it will be a transliteration policy, with a scope wider than implied by the use of the word 'naming' in the title. However I see that most other comparable ones are called 'naming'. Imc 20:22, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:Zoroastrian mythology

Hi there. Not sure what to say, what do you think? did you ask other project people ? By the way I gotta know you better, a FFVI + FFVIII guy, dude how "infinitesimal" are people like us. Cheers ! Amir85 19:55, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

See Category talk:Zoroastrian mythology.
ps: Please continue this discussion in one place. No point everyone adding their input in different places. -- Fullstop 07:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:Zoroastrian mythology

Hi, i have not touch that page once, because of lack of time, so i don't have a say here, good luck to you. --Darkred 20:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)



Unfortunately there is no easy way to merge something like this. We'll just have a look at both articles and grab things as needed. I think we should concentrate on merging everything now, and then we can concentrate on specifics (e.g. when to use a transliteration, which transliteration etc.). I've got some free time to devote to this soon, so I'll be able to put more time into it.

Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 23:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Hindu mythology infoboxes

Sorry for the delayed response. Infoboxes would be a great on those articles. Right now I am busy with some work on locator maps. I will get back on this once I am done with that. - Ganeshk (talk) 05:53, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

User Zoro

I had not seen that one before - not sure how user boxes merge - feel free to delete one or the other though. Thanks, -- - K a s h Talk | email 08:45, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Gangs of The Shield

Care to help me expland?--SGCommand (talkcontribs) 15:09, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Eiji Shinjo

(will watch for replies here) Brought this to Afd since you removed the prod. I don't understand your edit comment though. The reason for the prod was clearly stated within the tag itself, so I don't see a reason why there should be anything additional on the talk page. -- Hirudo 04:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

I did not understand what nn video characters meant.--Dangerous-Boy 04:09, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
nn = non-notable. Afd'd Chaos (Toshinden Character) as well by the way. Battle Arena Toshinden may be worth an article, but giving one to each of the characters is not in my opinion. -- Hirudo 04:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi Dangerous boy, as you had suggested, we should redirect Kalpa to a disambig page. I have created a page called Kalpa, Himachal Pradesh. Can you create an appropriate page for the vedanga version of Kalpa. We can then redirect kalpa to the disambig page. ramit 06:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

User Zoroastrian

Yeah I guess religious discrimination exists everywhere! -- - K a s h Talk | email 10:37, 15 May 2006 (UTC)


I have fixed the IAST stuff. It should be okay now. Cygnus_hansa 22:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Template:Hdeity infobox

I'll see what I can do --Squilibob 05:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I've added code so that it is basic infobox with the optional parameters. I am at work now and can't really do much. What you need to do is: Test it to see if it works, change the format including colors as you see fit, make sure the text in the left column isn't too long, (the transliteration field makes it too big), add {{subst:doctl}} to the talk page and fill in the documentation that doctl creates. Ask me if you want more help on it. --Squilibob 07:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I have already fixed that. When it comes to coding and scripts there is a saying: "If something is obviously wrong then the obvious is wrong". Something was hiding some of the text, and that was a comment that was not closed properly, there was an exclamation point. (Should have been --> but it was --!> ). Make sure you test it with an image and also don't forget the subst:doctl on the talk page. --Squilibob 08:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Made some minor fixes. It should work now.--Squilibob 08:41, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok, moved it to float right. --Squilibob 09:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
and fixed the box so that text should float left of it. Test it out and see --Squilibob 10:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I don't know what your alignment trouble is. You could try putting the code <br style="clear:right;"/> between the templates or you could change Template:Hdeity infobox to text-align:right instead of float: right; or you could put both templates into a table to line them up properly. --Squilibob 03:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Ok a table fixed it. If this Indra text notice template is going to appear on every page that the infobox does, then why don't we just include it in the infobox? --Squilibob 09:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Ok I fixed that too. I can't believe how many things were wrong with this template. Next time I'm just copying someone elses. --Squilibob 22:15, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I didn't quite know what you wanted with the script name and script. I think I got it when I read the talk page on the template. Test it and tell me if it is wrong. --Squilibob 08:05, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

notice board

sorry but i'm no expert on wikicoding. you might want to hit up the infobox-tweaking, portal-creating User:Visviva for some hints. good luck. Appleby 06:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Teknoman to Tekkaman Blade!

Let's make a drive to change Teknoman to Tekkaman Blade. It's correct name of the series. The DVDs will soone be coming out for it. I see no reason why we shouldn't change everything to Tekkaman Blade. All the lists of the changes are there. Also, if the character sections get big enough they should probably get there own pages or go into a separate list page.--Dangerous-Boy 07:29, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I'm kind of conflicted as to the best course of action regarding Teknoman/Tekkaman Blade's representation on Wikipedia. On the one hand, it's true that Teknoman is a bastardized, largely watered down and butchered version of Tekkaman Blade with a lot of content and subtext missing entirely that was in its source (about 3/4ths I'd estimate), but on the other hand a lot of people's first introduction to Anime in general could very well have been through Teknoman, as mine was.
I don't know whether to make separate pages for Teknoman and Tekkaman Blade, or just make a page for Tekkaman Blade and then include Teknoman as a footer (that'd be one looooong page though). I do agree with the general assessment that the current Teknoman page is in dire need of a cleanup, as it's inundated with spelling and grammatical errors and it largely rambles on about plot points that aren't necessarily required in the overall article (read: spoilers). Let's throw a line out on the talk page and see if anyone else has any objections to a large, wholesale restructuring of the Teknoman page (or alternatively, its deletion and recreation as a Tekkaman Blade page, depending on the course of action we end up pursuing). teh TK 07:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Sure, lemme know where you need help, or what the general idea is for the change beyond simply changing the names and any plot differences back to the original series.. teh TK 20:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

Message boards

As far as I can recall, I just copied an existing message board that I liked and changed the content. So if you like the Korea board, you could just copy the wikitext and change the content to Hindu-related topics... However, it looks like Wikipedia:Notice board for India-related topics is more or less filling that role. I don't know if I'd recommend creating a second message board on such a closely-related topic.

Sorry I missed your hangul request, but it looks like it's been taken care of. Cheers, -- Visviva 07:40, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism in South Korea

I surely wouldn't know where to begin. The only South Asians who are recorded to have reached Korean shores in classical times (Malananta, Heo Hwang-ok) were Buddhists. There is of course a small Indian community in South Korea today, and presumably they are mostly Hindu; however, I have not been able to find any actual facts about them or their religious practices. Hinduism is not among the religions tracked by the Korean National Statistical Office.

Of course there is the usual current of Hindu influence in Korean Buddhism, although I don't know of anything that would set it apart from the rest of East Asia in this regard.

There has been quite an upsurge of (non-religious) interest in yoga in recent years -- does that count?

I guess it would be possible to copy the less-interesting aspects of the "Cultural Influences" section of Hinduism in Japan as a seed for Hinduism in South Korea. However, I'm not sure if that seed would ever grow. Good luck! -- Visviva 13:42, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

would you mind if i changed Hinduism in South Korea to Hinduism in Korea, since i'm sure you'd want coverage of hinduism on the peninsula prior to 1948? thx Appleby 16:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Fixing squares

View this section in the edit box, not directly:

I am sorry that I couldnt fix the squares of the other articles, I didnt have the time. But you can do it too. Firtly, opening the page in Mozilla Firefox will not show squares but proper letters. Also, in IExplorer, you can add the following template to the word which is seen improperly:


ie, put opening double braces, then IAST, then pipe sign, then the word, and then the closing double braces. Do not put any intervening spacesCygnus_hansa 00:48, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


Please check in Hinduism/Discussions/Etymology. I would like to know your view. Aupmanyav 14:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Indonesia-related topics notice board

All right, tell me what have you requested or what do you most want :-) Meursault2004 17:49, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Re: Urdu

Yes, I agree. There are excessive Urdu links which need to be reverted. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:17, 24 May 2006 (UTC)


Hey, you've been doing a great job in trying to lift off the Hinduism project with the Hinduism noticeboard and HCOTW. Despite having 40 members or so, it is still a fairly inactive project. We have only one FA which barely makes, three GA's (Rama, Ganesha, Sanskrit) but lots of bad articles. I know there is potential with 40 members but most of the active Wikipedians that are part of the project don't edit that much to Hinduism-related pages. Do have any ideas to motivate them. The only thing I can think of is proposing a Hinduism barnstar at Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/New Proposals. Any other suggestions? GizzaChat © 21:49, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Hinduism topic template

Per your request, I have made the font smaller on the template. Not sure it changed much though. Check it out. Regards, Ganeshk (talk) 07:38, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Yoga is done too. Ganeshk (talk) 15:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)


You have created the Books on Hindu history cat. Because this cat is not broad enough, I'd suggest there should be in addition a broader category. But I'm not sure about the name. Maybe: "India(n) history books", "South Asia(n) history books" (Like Category:United States history books), Books about Indian history, or another name? Because English is not my native language, I don't which name would be best or would be "correct English". Maybe you would know? Regards, --Msiev 11:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

"Books on Hindu history" is either about Hinduism or about the Hindu people. There should be in addition a category for the history of India, like the Category:United States history books. Maybe it could be called "Cagegory:India history books"? I'm not sure if this is correct English. Books like An Advanced History of India could belong there. ----

Vedic metal, etc

Thanks for helping with the Indian comics - unfortunatly the original Vedic metal article was unilaterally deleted, for allegedly not being noteworthy enough (even though ive seen much worse stubs and it had sections), so there isnt much point expanding it at this point - ive tried to put as much as I can in the Indian rock article, and hope someone else in future will re-create the Vedic metal one. It clearly isnt 'folk metal', but I guess its staying there for now. Vastu 11:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Removal of Tnavbar

Greetings, sorry to disturb you but I couldn't help but notice that you're removing Tnavbar from templates related to Hinduism. Please know that I agree with the logic you expressed for doing so ("it takes up too much space") for Template:HinduFestivals but do not agree with that same logic for Template:Hinduism_small. I am working on another template that will be more applicable to templates like Template:HinduFestivals so that less space is taken up and I expect to have a solution shortly. In the meantime please read Template_talk:Tnavbar to understand why Wikipedia editors are including Tnavbar on templates like Template:Islam, Template:History of Australia, Template:Slashdot, etc. thanks. Netscott 23:28, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Baroness.jpg)

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Request for Translation from Indonesian Articles

Hi Dangerous-Boy, just wanted to let you know that I've done the translations you requested. They're not the largest articles ever written, but I hope they're helpful to you, anyway! Cheers,

--Sepa 20:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi Dangerous-Boy...well, you give an arm, they take a leg! Just joking... I'm pretty busy at the moment, and also trying to work on a few of my own interests, but I will plug away at them slowly as I agree that Hinduism in Indonesia is a noteworthy topic. I'll start on the largest articles in the id wikipedia first, in the hopes that some of the smaller articles will be expanded in the meantime. Cheers, --Sepa 11:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi again... just wanted to let you know that Kakawin Hariwangsa has been translated. Meursault2004 has taken a look at it too. Cheers, --Sepa 20:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Urgent Request

Dear Dangerous-Boy

I would like to bring something to your attention (a proposed deletion of a wikipedia article) and would like to request your help.

I have seen some of your contributions, and I think you might have a good understanding of the issues involved. Please look at the article: India_Basher and views about its proposed deltion: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/India_Basher. I am hoping to save the article.

I believe that those supporting deletion of the article are not familiar with the subject. With your knowledge of India and its interaction with the world, you can probably make an informed decision about value of the article, and its accuracy. I will appreciate if you can share your thoughts at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/India_Basher.

You can my my contributions to Wikipedia at Special:Contributions/Cardreader

--Cardreader 22:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

deletion of all ethnic categories

Have you noticed what is being proposed to be done to all the categories named 'xxx people by ethnic or national origin' (such as Category:American people by ethnic or national origin and all ethnic/national origin subcategories?

See Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 20

Users are taking votes to delete ALL hyphenated American articles.

There does not seem to be anyone interested in this, but me. Are you? Do you know others? Thanks --Dark Tichondrias

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indic)

Hi, I've finished all my exams and stuff now, so I can begin working with you on this! Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 14:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)


You voted for Indian American, this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article. - Ganeshk (talk) 05:38, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Spacing Hinduism in China

Greetings, I've adjusted the spacing for this article. Was there another article that needed assistance? Netscott 23:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Great! Don't hesitate to drop me a note if you come across something else needed some of this kind of attention relative to Template:Tnavbar as I'm quite happy to help. Cheers! Netscott 01:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Ah, one last thing. If you could note on the Template_talk:Tnavbar discussion that the problem was solved... that'd be great. ;-) Netscott 01:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Cheers again, happy Wikiediting. :-) Netscott

Template discussion

See here. -ZeroTalk 19:11, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Category:Hindu politicians

Hi. You recently created Category:Hindu politicians. It has been deleted by User:Nichalp as it was a category which has been previously deleted. See relevant discussion here at the Categories for Deletion page for this category. So please do not add articles to this category as it has been judged to be POV by the community. Please feel free to contact me for anything. - Aksi_great (talk) 04:56, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

You are free to list any cateogries that you feel should be deleted at WP:CFD and let the community decide whether it should be deleted. The only thing I know is that Cateogory:Hindu politicians was decided to be deleted and hence should not be recreated. - Aksi_great (talk) 17:10, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I personally feel it is POV. I tagged all remaining religion cats for deletion. Let us get the community consensus. - Ganeshk (talk) 21:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism

Perhaps you would like to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Hinduism? Our Category:Hindutva needs work.--Dangerous-Boy 20:39, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. I would participate time to time. I belive I can make significant contributions to some of the Hinduism and India related articles.--Cardreader 00:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Invitation and Recommendations for writing articles on Hindi Wikipedia

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  6. Hindi wikipedia strongly recommends the users to write articles in everyday common Hindi in the खड़ीबोली dialect (Hindustani or Hindi-Urdu, i.e., बोलचाल वाली हिन्दी, which may include many loanwords from Persian and Arabic). The use of शुद्ध संस्कृतनिष्ठ हिन्दी is in general neither required nor recommended. E.g., use: वजह instead of कारण, ख़ास instead of विशेष, वगैरह instead of इत्यादि, लेकिन instead of परन्तु etc. However, for technical and specialized vocabulary, the use of शुद्ध संस्कृतनिष्ठ हिन्दी is recommended and usually mandatory. Thus: upper House of Parliament—संसद का उच्च सदन, but not Urdu—मजिलिस का ऐवान-ए-बाला ; Foreign Minister—विदेशमन्त्री, but not Urdu—वज़ीर-ए-ख़ारिजा ; knowledge/science—ज्ञान/विज्ञान, but not इल्म. Use spoken Hindi's ये and वो instead of यह and वह / वे. Do not use the title of respect जी after names, it is unencyclopedic. Thus: कृष्ण / श्री कृष्ण but not कृष्ण जी. Use the आप form and its corresponding 3rd person verbal conjugation for writing about respectable persons. Thus: श्री वाजपेयी मध्य प्रदेश में जन्मे थे. But not: वाजपेयी मध्य प्रदेश में जन्मा था. But do not use the pronoun "आप" itself in-text in biographies.
  7. English should be used sparingly, only when required; i.e., if the corresponding शुद्ध हिन्दी word is too "difficult and not generally encountered", or if it is a proper name of non-Indian person/place/terminology/title, or if the user is highly unsure of the proper translation. It is recommended (but not required) for English-to-Hindi translation while writing articles, the Shabdkosh online dictionary should be used. For each English word, that alternative should be used which is generally encountered in everyday spoken Hindi, and also fits well into the context. Use of intelligent guesses for newly encountered words is also allowed, and so are translations encountered in Hindi-dubbed TV documentaries, Hollywood films, Hindi-translated books, etc. e.g., दमपिशाच for en:Dementor (used in dubbed HP films).
  8. If used, it is recommended to use the English words within the articles using the English (Roman) alphabets rather than devanagari (or better, the devanagari transliteration should be used in the sentence, followed by the English word in Roman alphabet in parentheses). Such words should be italicized and not put in quotation marks. Preferably, there should be an in-page interwiki link (like :en:) on the word to the English wikipedia. If the word comes as an integral part of a sentence, so as not to break the continuity, the en: prefix should be hidden by writing the word again after the pipe sign (piped link). Thus, recommended: हैरी पॉटर ने ''[[:en:Pensieve|Pensieve]]'' के अन्दर ''[[:en:Little Hangleton|Little Hangleton]]'' गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ ''[[:en:Merope Gaunt|Merope Gaunt]]'' को देखा. ''[[:en:Resplendent Quetzal|Resplendent Quetzal]]'' पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० ''[[:en:Pablo de la Llave|Pablo de la Llave]]'' ने काफ़ी शोध किया था. Whence,
    • हैरी पॉटर ने Pensieve के अन्दर Little Hangleton गाँव में लॉर्ड वोल्डेमॉर्ट की माँ Merope Gaunt को देखा
    • Resplendent Quetzal पक्षी के ऊपर एक मेक्सिकन पादरी डा० Pablo de la Llave ने काफ़ी शोध किया था
  9. Always start the first 1 or 2 lines of the article giving its definition (from any standard dictionary/other wiki) or suitable introduction. Thus, recommended: ललिता सहस्रनामन हिन्दू धर्मसुधारक आदि शंकराचार्य द्वारा रचित देवी दुर्गा को समर्पित एक पूजा-मन्त्र है, जिसे कई हिन्दू रोज़ श्रद्धा से जपते हैं । But not: ललिता सहस्रनामन मन्त्र जपने के लिये लड्डू-पेड़ा, ताम्बुल, सिन्दूर, लाल चुनरी के साथ नित्य इस मन्त्र का पाठ करें, तो जल्द ही गड़ा हुआ ख़जाना मिलेगा । Recommended: वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी (en:Aeronautical engineering) विमानों (en:Aircrafts) की अभिकल्पना, निर्माण और प्रचालन करने का विज्ञान, कला और कार्य है । (translated from Eng. Webster's New World Dictionary). But not: आजकल वैमानिक अभियान्त्रिकी के लिये देशभर में कई कॉलेज खुल गये हैं, जिनमें अग्रणी स्थान यूटोपिया स्थित लालू-यादव टेक्लिनक कॉलेज का है ।
  10. For names of countries, cities, places, languages, people, books, films, technical vocabulary, mythology, etc, start the article like this:
    • 1. The name in bold ('''अपोलो''')
    • 2. starting parenthesis, then English name in Roman script, in-page interwiki-linked to English wiki ff. by semicolon ((अंग्रेज़ी : [[:en:Apollo]];)
    • 3. The native name(s) if applicable in the italicized native script, preferably followed either by its italicized approximate Hindi pronunciation or non-italicized phonological transcription within / /, ff. by closed parenthesis (यूनानी : ''Aπollων अपोल्लोन''))
    • 4. the rest of the definition or introduction (प्राचीन [[यूनानी धर्म]] (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन [[रोमन धर्म]] के सर्वोच्च देवता थे ।) For country names, only the standard short form of the name is needed in the first line. If there is a common name for a difficult word in Hindustani, also mention it. Whence: अपोलो (अंग्रेज़ी : en:Apollo; यूनानी : Aπollων अपोल्लोन) प्राचीन यूनानी धर्म (ग्रीक धर्म) और प्राचीन रोमन धर्म के सर्वोच्च देवता थे । If you don't give the interwiki English/another language link (which would be deemed to be the default reference), then you MUST provide an appropriate reference.
  11. Please leave no article without an appropriate category. See the list of created categories here; you can also make a new category (pref. in Hindi). Please leave no article without at least ONE off page (like en:) interwiki link. E.g., the user can check the article name (say Apollo) on the finally redirected English page and append to the Hindi article ([[en:Appolo]])). These interlanguage links will help a bot to update all interwiki links for that article in all wikipedias. The category and the aforementioned link should be typed at the end of the article. If the article is very small, mention it as a stub/substub.
  12. Use of templates is welcome. See the list of templates here. If creating a template, name it pref. in Hindi.
  13. Use पूर्णविराम ( । ) instead of a period (.) for ending statements. The पूर्णविराम, semicolon, colon and dash (but not comma) must come after one space after the word to prevent ambiguity. Use the international form of the Hindu-Arabic numerals (1,2,3 instead of १,२,३), as used by the Constitution and the Government of India (even for Hindi). There is no need to use the हलन्त at the end of Sanskrit words wherever it occurs. Hence, prefer: संसद over संसद्; अथर्वन over अथर्वन्. Use the proper quotation marks “” from the Insert toolbox, not "". Write dates as 2 मई 2006 (ईसवी or ईसापूर्व). Write time as 3:45 pm. Separate common suffix-words like शास्त्र, विज्ञान, ज्ञान with a hyphen. Thus: रसायन-शास्त्र. For most others, leave both the words of the noun-cluster free. Combine them into one word only if it is very common to do so. Thus: सामवेद.
  14. The use of ज़ for the en:voiced alveolar fricative (/z/, as in zoo, rose) is fundamentally wrong. Its nearest counterpart is the en:voiceless alveolar fricative /s/ (as in sea), and not Hindi ज (en:voiced palatal plosive). Hence, it is suggested and recommended that for the sound /z/, whether it comes in English (etc.) spellings (z) for while pronunciation otherwise, should be transcribed as स़ (स with a dot below, available in the Insert toolbox). Hence: Reason रीस़न, not रीज़न ; Roses रोस़ेस़, not रोज़ेज़. But common Hindi words borrowed from Persian/Arabic (so-called Urdu words) are allowed to continue with ज़ spelling. Thus: ज़रा, नज़र, तर्ज़. The en:voiced postalveolar fricative (/ʒ/ as in treasure), inexistent in Hindi, can similarly be transcribed with श़. Thus: treasure ट्रॅश़र. The nukta (dot) available in the Insert toolbox can be combined with various consonants to suggest a more exact phonetic devanagari rendering of foreign sounds. E.g., since phonetically, English Think and this are not equal to थिंक and दिस, a better transcription could be थ़िंक and द़िस. Please take care of the dot below in so-called Urdu words, otherwise the Hindi spelling is deemed incorrect.
  15. For the following English vowels met, mate, mat, transcribe as मॅट (short vowel), मेट (not मेइट), मैट (not मॅट, as popular in Marathi). However in contemporary Hindi and here, it is acceptable to use ए instead of ऍ. Thus: अमेरिका is more popular than अमॅरिका. For cot, coat, caught, transcribe as कॉट, कोट, कॉट (not कौट). Transcribe English /t/ and /d/ as ट and ड.
  16. Use half-न before त, थ, द, ध, न, instead of anuswaar अं. Use half-म before प, फ, ब, भ, म. Use the anuswaar before all the rest of the consonants (not half-ङ, ञ, ण). If the मात्रा is not above the alphabet, use chandra-bindu, but only for nasalization. Thus: अन्दर, not अंदर ; अन्त, not अंत ; हिन्दी, not हिंदी ; सम्भव, not संभव ; पंचमी, not पञ्चमी ; अंडा, not अण्डा ; कंठ, not कण्ठ ; लैंड, not लैण्ड ; आँख, not आंख. However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here; the prec. are just recommendations.
  17. When proceded by another vowel, use the pure vowels instead of य (unless the य is clearly articulated while pronouncing). Thus : जाएँ, not जायें (not जावें) ; आएगा, not आयेगा . However, both forms are acceptable in contemporary Hindi as well as here.
  18. Please pay careful attention to the masculine/feminine gender (and singular/plural) in adjectives and verbs, else the sentence becomes ungrammatical.

For more information/suggestions/criticisms, please contact any one of the administrators of Hindi wiki here, preferably en:User:Magicalsaumy.

This page can also be found here.

Thank you,

Cygnus_hansa 19:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


I am sure that you are fine. Very shortly, I shall again start contributing very actively to Hindu mythology related topics. --Bhadani 17:57, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Tekkaman edits etc

I've been reassigned to a new unit so I'll be moving soon.. meanwhile my online times will be a bit more limited so I won't be able to respond to messages as quickly, or edit as much as I have in the past. Hopefully the new unit will have internet access in the barracks, cross your fingers. :) teh TK 13:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Template update

Hi DB, I updated the two templates. Check them and make any tweaks needed. - Ganeshk (talk) 05:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Maya Merge

Do you have any objection to me trying to merge Maya (Illusion) and Maya (Hinduism)? We could always revert it. Chris 22:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Ancient India articles

I didn't realise the category was already under the mythology cat. I will revert back the changes this week end. The stub sorting was wrong however. These stubs shouldn't belong to {{india-hist-stub}}, rather to {{hindu-myth-stub}} - Parthi 09:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)


DB, Thanks for your support on my recent RFA. I noticed you updated the Hinduism template with the noticeboard. Good job, see you can do it too. I am not the god of templates. User:Saravask is. You should see his work on Template:Infobox Indian Jurisdiction. It deserves the "This template employs some extremely complicated and esoteric features of template syntax." tag. - Ganeshk (talk) 20:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I moved the noinclude to the bottom. It shows up now. - Ganeshk (talk) 21:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
The new links template looks good. i updated the color to a lightish yellow. orange is too bright. - Ganeshk (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

military history

Hey, there's a new(ish) WikiProject Military History collab. center. There are currently taskforces assigned to Australian, British, Canadian, French, Polish and American military histories. Do you want to start one for India? The page is: - Thoreaulylazy 10:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

My pic on Asian people

User:Zzuuzz told me that the pictures I had been adding to the Asian people page were copyrighted and should be removed. The only picture that was not copyrighted was 50px. I added my free-use picture because there was a lack of Asian pictures for the Asian people page.--Dark Tichondrias

European American

I believe a European American is someone who lives in the United States but is preferably born in the USA who has origins in the original peoples of Europe. Christina Aguilera does fit this description, but the image is copy-righted. I am not going to add the image back to European American because it is copyrighted.--Dark Tichondrias

Christina Aguilera might not meet the concept of European American, but I feel the creation of the Hispanic or Latino category in the 1970's was misused. It was used to support affirmative action by the National Council of La Raza and MEChA. NCLR used the newly created ethnicity to argue for benefits for Spanish descendents. According to the Mexica Movement, it was detrimental to the Indigenous Identity. The Mexica Movement claims the creation of the Hispanic category unjustly favored Spanish descendents who they felt faced no racial discrimination. By placing Mexican indios in the same category, Mexica Movement felt that it lessed the benefits to the indio and mestizo interest group. From my personal experience, I feel after watching a professor of exclusive Spanish ancstry complain about the racism from "racist Whites" that the Mexica Movement's claim is justified. This professor claimed that when she was in the Midwest "racist whites" were racist to her. I feel she has an exagerated perception that she is being persecuted for having Spanish ancestry. Many White supremacist organizations would also consider her White American or White such as: White Aryan Resistance and European Liberation Front, supporting my belief in her delusions of persecution.

This is not to say I feel indios and mestizos should get special benefits over Spanish descendents. These groups feel precedence entitles them to special benefits. Interestingly, the professor who argued that continual oppression from "racist Whites" necessitated intervention of external forces, supporting affirmative action for Hispanics, revealed her belief that Asian Americans should not get affirmative action. I think this shows that self-interest is at the core of the affirmative action debate. --Dark Tichondrias 18:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Your Personal Attack Against Me

Your defintion of a vandal is not based on official Wikipedia policy.You had called the change I made to the Indian American article, changing Indian American to Asian-Indian, article vandalism. I know this term disagreed with you, but that does not make it vandalism. You have called the addition of a picture of myself, an Asian example, to the Asian people page vandalism. There were no free-use Asian pictures, so I added a free-use example from the only person with whom I have permission--myself. I consider unjustified accusation that I'm a vandal which is a different accusation than I have vandalized a Wikipedia:No personal attacks#Examples of personal attacks due to your repetition of accusation which you have not justified. --Dark Tichondrias 04:13, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Kurukshetra war

The military history project doesn't deal with conflicts which are generally treated in reputable sources as primarily mythological. Please don't add the project banner to them, as it only confuses people ;-) Kirill Lokshin 21:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Transformers comments

Transformers Project

Great thing to help get going! I made the comment in the talk page as a suggestion but not a finished product! I saw that you put it into the main article already, but I took it out (for now) and wanted to tell you why:
1. I have been working on that page for an hour and thus started with a version that didn't already have it in, so it was easier (since that was the only change) to leave it out.
2. There is SURE to be controversy on the format and order, so it's probably best to leave it out until we can, through the Talk page, get at least some semblance of consensus on the format/ordering of articles.
3. It's a little incomplete too. I didn't mean for it to be a wholly completed project. PROBABLY the best bet is to take a character (say Bumblebee or Ratchet and work the page into a format, and then use it as the basis for the formatting. You know, like a trial subject or taste tester.
Like I said before, this is great and I look forward to lots of Transformer Wikipedia-ing!
VigilancePrime 07:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
(BTW: Your page is rather long here... you may want to think of archiving it or something.)
Is there or will there (soon) be WikiProject User box for the Transformers project also? (I have no idea how to make one.)
VigilancePrime 09:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
RE: "You can take the code from any userbox and modify it. that's what I usually do." - How? (i.e. how do I get at an existing userbox and how do I create a new one - from where?) [yes, I have tried searching through Wiki pages but just get more lost and confused!] VigilancePrime 10:00, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I finally got it figured out! Yah! (Thank you!)
I created two userboxes. {{User WikiProject Transformers}} is the "Autobot" version and {{User WikiProject Transformers2}} is the Decepticon version.
VigilancePrime 11:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


"You should put the website from you got that pic. Such pics are usually the target of deletions. Same for the decepticon one," you had commented:

I would, if I knew where exactly it came from. I've seen it on many sites and, considering it is fan-made from copyrighted and fair-used images (the logos can be considered cultural icons and representative without intent to associate), they cannot be copyrighted.
But I'd love to have help; if you find a site with these, please update the image rhetoric to reflect it!
VigilancePrime 01:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Template:Transformer characters

Ok as you asked for, I have created Template:Transformers characters. It is working on Optimus Prime and Megatron so far. Tell me if there are any problems. --Squilibob 07:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok I added the two you requested. You could have had a try at that yourself though. --Squilibob 10:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

False Accusation of Vandalism

On the revert you made on the Californian Hindu textbook controversyRevert link you accused User: of vandalism, but his/her edit probably stemmed from the belief that the Hindu template "Hinduism small" was unrelated to the page's content. The page debated whether the Hindu depictions in California textbooks were accurate. This debate regarded an issue outside of Hinduism as a religion. It would be similar to putting a Chrisitianity template in the article over the legalization of prayer in schools which involves mostly Christian organizations pressing their views. You may or may not have considered this take on his/her edit at the time. If you did consider this reasoning and called him/her edit vandalism, then it is important to remember Wikipedia:Assume good faith.--Dark Tichondrias 17:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)