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Hello, DavidAnstiss, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Drmies (talk) 18:32, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Totallly non-critical and positive welcome[edit]

Its nice to see you editing. From my user page you will see that I have been wikipedia for 7 years, and have about 9000 edits to my name- and I watch some of the articles you have improved. From the tags above there are about 2 sentences that are worth reading- and the guys at Wikipedia:WikiProject Kent will give a hand at sorting things out. Do join the Wikiproject Kent group it keeps you in touch- and I have a talk page. --ClemRutter (talk) 22:04, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi from a friendly Admin who is a member of WP:KENT! Sorry you've had a bit of a rough intro to Wikipedia. It does take a while to learn all the ins and outs (still learning myself and I'm an admin, LOL). Anything I can help with please ask. Mjroots (talk) 21:09, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Trosley Country Park[edit]

My apologies for tagging Trosley Country Park for speedy deletion. I made a mistake. Please do not be discouraged from editing Wikipedia and consider joining the WikiProject Kent. And please next time please be a little more careful with copyrighted content. Gabriele449 (talk) 21:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Having checked the article, it was apparently a copyvio on creation, and thus the deletion was correct.
That said, Trosley Country Park would be notable enough to sustain an article. You could create a new article, in your own words, using that website (amongst others) as a source. As there is no rush, it may be better for now to concentrate on improving existing articles to get a feel for editing Wikipedia before creating a new article. Mjroots (talk) 21:15, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done

Photoessay on castles...[edit]

...I thought this was an excellent link - many thanks for spotting it! Hchc2009 (talk) 16:54, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I am a frequent contributor to Geograph, and chat regularly to Oast House Archive about various Geograph matters, so can not take the full credt ;) DavidAnstiss (talk) 17:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Geograph's a good site/project, and one that's been invaluable to the recent British-centric work I've done on Wikipedia. It's one of the examples I give to friends about the value of open source collaboration and critical mass! Hchc2009 (talk) 17:59, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Chatham Central railway station - location[edit]

Comparing the 1909 OS map and any present day aerial view (both from the article location link), I reckon that the actual station (tracks & platform) was located along the NE half of the car park off Doust Way. The Doust Way houses are sited slightly further to the NE, and may not even be in the former station yard. Clankypup (talk) 10:42, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Riverside Country Park[edit]

After your last edit summary- I checked to see how much of my original article you had left--- and I can now claim credit contributing the geotag and the word is!

But I was thinking do we need to find a Infobox for all these country park articles- if there isn't one available I gladly help write one. --ClemRutter (talk) 19:28, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

sorry for taking control of your article clem ! I think I got carried away :) Fun finding out all the info about this park I often go to! I have seen Infoboxs but have never created one! DavidAnstiss (talk) 19:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
I have had a look and found that there is already a template See: Lakenheath Fen RSPB reserve where it is used. Template:Infobox park gives the low down. Its a pity because they are fun to write- I did Template:Infobox Mill building which is quite specialised --ClemRutter (talk) 15:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Milton Regis[edit]

Hi David. I have just been checking the contributors to Milton Regis and came across you. I see you are working on Church Marshes Country Park and just wished to alter you to the fact that I am seriously revamping the Milton article. Have you any idea when your Church Marshes page will be moved to main namespace? I would like to link to it and don't want to duplicate effort. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:19, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello Martin, As you see for my talk page I have done quite a few Kent Country Parks and have only just started on the Country Park History - mainly because you were re-doing the Milton Regis article :) I hope to finish it within the next week or so! I am not going to do anything about the church - but put a note to look at the Milton Regis article! I have put in a small geography section to include the river/creek. Regards DavidAnstiss (talk) 14:40, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

Rebecca Tope, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Sue Rangell 20:54, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Albums and images[edit]

You're using your sandbox to work on an article about Phildel, and another about her album. That's fine.

You've uploaded images of her album. That's less fine; you can't use images of album covers in your sandbox. Wikipedia's lawyers have said that we can only get away with Fair Use images in articles.

And then you uploaded the album cover to Commons as "own work".

You're not allowed to do that. The image is being deleted as a copyright violation. Even if you scanned the image in yourself, that's not what 'own work' means. Don't upload fair-use images until the article for which they're meant is in mainspace, and don't upload them to Commons as "own work". DS (talk) 14:29, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

How do I find an image for the album that is a 'fair-use' image. That image has been used on various blogs and websites that I have been using to create the 2 articles about Phildel and her album.
Wikipedia's lawyers have said that (using a non-free image -- for instance, an album cover -- on a Wikipedia page) is acceptable under Fair Use guidelines if it is within an article. Userspace is not acceptable, even if it is a proto-article that you're working on in your sandbox. You should only upload the nonfree image to Wikipedia's servers once (the article that it's for) is ready. And you should never upload a nonfree image to Commons; Commons is only for free images.
And remember, "free" and "nonfree" are not defined in terms of whether you had to pay for the jpg. They're defined in terms of the image copyright. If you can't find a copyright-free photo of Phildel, that's too bad; it means that the article will have no photo for now. Wikipedia's lawyers have said that as long as the person is still alive, then it is possible for someone to take a copyright-free photo of them; it's "replaceable" (with certain very rare exceptions like "is serving a life sentence without possibility of parole, ever"). If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. DS (talk) 15:29, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Mount Ephraim Gardens[edit]

Hey David. The last sentence in this article - "The gardens also include a Ha-ha. Built in C18 of red brick. About 3 feet high, and approximately 100 yards in length, with double curve plan." - appears to be copied verbatim from the source. What copyright license is the source under? Ironholds (talk) 01:25, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for spotting that I meant to alter it before I sumbmitted the article. DavidAnstiss (talk) 13:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
Cool; thanks :). Ironholds (talk) 03:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

PS Medway Queen[edit]

Hello namesake. From what I see, your reversion of revision 581609586 is mistaken. At present neither Wingfield Castle nor Medway Queen are mobile (except in the sense that both are afloat and can be towed). Although it is the intention that MQ be restored to self-propulsion (and I hope that she is), that may not happen for some time or at all. How do you feel about a lead:

The PS Medway Queen is a former British estuary paddle steamer built in 1924. She was one of the "little ships of Dunkirk", making a record 7 trips and rescuing 7000 men in the evacuation of Dunkirk. Under a programme of restoration, a replica hull has been built and funds are being raised to restore the rest of her to operational condition.

The detail of the Lottery funding should be in the article itself. That needs considerable work - but you will see from the Talk page that user:Storye_book intends having a look at this, so I will hold off for the moment. Davidships (talk) 20:59, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I am happy with that edit! I only watch the article for vandalism anyway! (but do live in Gillingham) so have I slight extra interest! DavidAnstiss (talk) 21:51, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Thames barges[edit]

Hello - Thanks for your reply re MQ.

On Thames barges, I am interested but have no particular expertise or handy sources. As well as some links at Thames sailing barge, there is an article currently named Sailing barge Thalatta which gives a possible target for content, though it needs a strong copy-edit, and renaming to something like Thalatta (barge) (my preferred) or SB Thalatta.

Cambria already has a stub at SB Cambria, which perhaps also ought to be renamed. Davidships (talk) 23:37, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for these! Will work-on my cambria article on my user page and then copy it in later! DavidAnstiss (talk) 15:16, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Ways to improve Blackthorn Trust[edit]

Hi, I'm JLeach87. DavidAnstiss, thanks for creating Blackthorn Trust!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Great article. Don't forget to provide inline citations. Keep up the great work.

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse. Jordan Leach (talk) 04:07, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Chipperfield Road Picture[edit]

I removed the Chipperfield Road image from the St Pauls Cray page, because it isn't in St Pauls Cray it is in St Mary Cray. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dillkid95 (talkcontribs) 11:15, 4 January 2014 (UTC)


I patrolled your page. I went through the enormously-backlogged list of newly-created pages and confirmed that your page was okay: not spam, not an attack page, not a copyright violation, not any of the other reasons for which I would delete someone's page without asking. Then I clicked "patrolled" to remove it from the list of "pages that have not yet been patrolled", and moved on to the next entry. That's all. DS (talk) 15:54, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

thank you for explaining that ! Was just slightly worried about the review bit - but thanks for the explaination DavidAnstiss (talk) 16:46, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

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thank you, I would like to re-attach it to the article about 'Saving Britain’s Past'.DavidAnstiss (talk) 23:02, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

New articles created by you[edit]

Just wanted to say "thank you" for creating articles for Ardian Syaf, Duncan Eagleson, and Kenneth Rocafort. Keep up the great work!

Best regards,

Mtminchi08 (talk) 04:26, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Lists of botanists by author abbreviation[edit]

Hi, it's always good to have new names added to these lists. A couple of points:

  • You always need to check by an author search in IPNI, since this is the only definitive source. E.g. you added the wrong Abramov recently – see [1].
  • There are n-dashes rather than hyphens between the bolded abbreviation and the name, and between birth and death year, as per the MOS. If you're not sure how to produce n-dashes, just copy a previous line and change it.

Peter coxhead (talk) 11:57, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Am looking at the link now. Will try and make an article on Abramov and did find one other Abramov (now know there are 3 - gulp). I will also try and remember the date dash thing.DavidAnstiss (talk) 14:27, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Lists of botanists by author abbreviation[edit]

Always good to see more entries in these lists. A couple of minor points: the alphabetic order is as if there are no full stops, spaces, etc. and all the letters are capitals (necessary because of the very varied way the standard abbreviations get written, sometimes with spaces, sometimes not); the character between the birth and death years should be an endash, not a hyphen, as per the MOS. Thanks! Peter coxhead (talk) 18:27, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, for that edit. Understand the order now - I think ! Forgot about the hypen (had copied it direct from Plant List) ! Will try and remember to edit that next time! DavidAnstiss (talk) 10:36, 2 October 2014 (UTC)


Hi David, I just wanted to remark that I had thought it should be possible to find a recent classification of the irises, because there has been a lot of work on their molecular phylogenetics, but I can't find such a thing. I think it is true that Section Reticulatae is not validly published, as seemed likely from its non-presence in the International Plant Names Index, but it would be necessary to put a classification together from pieces in recent journal articles (and that would probably be assailed as WP:OR). The indexes, and don't say which species are in which subgenus, section, or series. Perhaps it is best to leave the classification as the one from the 1982 book. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 21:23, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for that, I am finding that the classification system seems to be in a state of flux at the moment. With some Iris societys having one system (Pacific wetland and dryland) and others having a different system. Also found a recent article by Tony Hall (2000) on the genetics lumping Scorpirises and reticulas together ! Although, I think I got carried away with the Cassidy book system - before checking others ! Did not know about Plant list and IPNI until talking to Peter coxhead (about botanists) ! Will stick to the 1982 Mathew system until agreement is reached. DavidAnstiss (talk) 09:28, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
I didn't realize until I went through the iris articles just now what an enormous amount of work you had put in. Face-smile.svg Sminthopsis84 (talk) 13:57, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I have a 'silly' plan to complete all the iris series - about 86 more to go ! and with edits to current stubs of iris articles as I tackle each section and an occasional botanist and other articles to complete !16:34, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
That's very dedicated of you. (Strangely, there doesn't seem to be suitable emoticon to express awe rather than astonishment.) Sminthopsis84 (talk) 18:42, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Style for botanical authorities[edit]

I'll add my support to the praise above for the work you've been doing on irises! Just a small styling point. In taxoboxes and lists of species, it's become the norm to put botanical authorities in a smaller font. Thus in a list of synonyms in a taxobox, rather than:

  • Iris cepifolia Stokes


  • Iris cepifolia Stokes

There are several ways to get the correct format.

  • ''Iris cepifolia'' <small>Stokes</small>
  • ''Iris cepifolia'' {{small|Stokes}}
  • Use {{Species list}} which is the easiest for a list of names and authorities.

Keep up the good work! Peter coxhead (talk) 11:24, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you - will try amend my articles. Have never used Species list before ! Will have a look at that today.DavidAnstiss (talk) 13:54, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Program to format synonym lists[edit]

Hi David, I wonder if you might find useful a little Javascript program that you can find a link to at the top of my user page (click the green box), for rather rapidly formatting synonym lists from It needs to be downloaded, and then it runs in a browser (I do that by dragging the .html file to an open tab in Firefox). It is written in Javascript so that all the source code can easily be inspected so no sneaky things can be in there. The link from my user page takes you to a sub-page that is the documentation for the program. One particular reason for mentioning this to you is that there is potential for making variants of it to work with other databases (I have one that I haven't uploaded that takes synonym lists from The World Checklist of Selected Plant Families, with an option to work a little differently if it is working on synonyms for a genus or for a species). I hope that the documentation is easy to follow, but if you are interested and find that it isn't easy to follow, please ask me for help. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:42, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Have never used any Javascript programs before, am interested but very nervous of using something that could complicate or disrupt other articles ! DavidAnstiss (talk) 15:33, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
Well, all the data manipulation uses copy-and-paste (control-C and control-P in Windows). The program opens in the window with two areas for you to paste in the copied text from the plantlist page and the copied URL, then when you click "convert" it produces in another text box the reformatted text which you can then copy and past into a wikipedia page. You could try it out without ever touching wikipedia. It produces "|synonyms = ... |synonyms_ref = ..." with the citation, the accessdate, and it sorts the species names alphabetically in case they weren't already sorted. It's a bit clever in that it drops lines that don't have the right format, so you don't have to be careful to copy only the appropriate lines from the TPL page. Anyway, I just thought you might find it useful for the Iris work that you are doing. Best wishes, Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:55, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

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Because you thanked me[edit]

Echo thanks.svg DavidAnstiss, you thanked me for one of my recent edits, so here is a heart-felt...
It's a pleasure, and I hope you have a lot of fun while you edit this inspiring encyclopedia phenomenon! Mattwheatley (talk)

04:11, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Iris articles[edit]

Great work you're doing creating Iris articles. Could I encourage you to use the standard section names and ordering as per the WP:PLANTS template? Peter coxhead (talk) 11:53, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

I see from your edits to Iris speculatrix, the order of the sections (and from the template) and will apply this 'standard' all my new articles.DavidAnstiss (talk) 10:11, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Well, it's not a hard and fast rule that you have to use the template, but I think it's a good idea unless there are particular reasons to do otherwise. The only strong point I'd make is that since there are editors around who quote WP:NOTMANUAL to discourage too much being written about cultivation, it's never a good idea to put the Cultivation section first.
Keep up the good work! Peter coxhead (talk) 12:13, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
I second Peter. Thank you very much for contributing these detailed articles. Choess (talk) 04:07, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words.DavidAnstiss (talk) 13:40, 12 February 2015 (UTC)