User talk:DavidBrooks

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WP:AWB[edit]

If you are changing lots of EB1911 linked articles you might find WP:AWB a useful tool. If nothing else it will allow you to list all the entries in a category and by you clicking on the links in the list open a web page in your default browser to the article for you to edit.

The sort of simple thing it can be set up to do is change

{{1911 to {{EB1911

To see the sort of thing it can be used for you can check out my AWB account [PBS-AWB contributions]. -- PBS (talk) 01:14, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks; I'll take a look. David Brooks (talk) 06:11, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Template:EB1911 poster[edit]

I noticed this edit well done. I assumed that you checked that there was no copied text left in the article as you removed the attribution, but I am concerned with the hidden comment When this goes into Wikisource, replace the above with EB1911 poster. and I have changed it to When this goes into Wikisource, replace "title=Googe, Barnabe" with "wstitle=Googe, Barnabe" as the inline citation will still be needed. {{EB1911 poster}} is for use in external links or further reading if an article does not contain copied text {{EB1911}} or citations {{Cite EB1911}} to an article from EB1911 which resides on Wikisource.

Also I added a url link to the citation so that the current "title=Googe, Barnabe" links to a copy of the article on archive.org. You will find several different options for filling the url field at Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition#External links. If you have already done the hard work of looking up the volume and page (as you did here) then archive.org is I think the best option. However a quicker fix if volume or page is not known is to use:

because it has a search engine. So in this case searching for "Barnabe Googe" (they search their names the way Wikipedia holds them) gives:

If you look at the bottom of the page they return you will see their permanent url which is a numeric location:

This can then be used to create a link to the article like so:

  • {{Cite EB1911|title=Googe, Barnabe |url=http://www.studylight.org/enc/bri/view.cgi?number=3771}} (this example miss out other desirable parameters like volume)
  • Public Domain Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Googe, Barnabe". Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. 

-- PBS (talk) 11:00, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

@PBS:, thanks for the comment. I have edited many articles by referring to the archive.org source (where I got the page numbers). The most recent have been using my new -AWB atavar. I considered it not worth the extra effort to add the URL, because in theory there will be a WS copy sooner or later, but I now realize that's probably a false economy because (a) the URL is right there in my face (b) it looks like later is a better bet than sooner. I'm also wary of including links to outside parties, because they could change one day (look at all the links people have created to 1911encyclopedia.org) and I don't like sending people to studylight because of the popup ad, currently for Russell Crowe in Noah. But if you think the archive.org URLs are here to stay (although the URL name pattern is a little inconsistent, and volume 20 seems to be missing), then I'll work them into the links in future.
You're right about that one sample. I understand the distinction between an inline citation and further reading, but that one must have slipped by, and thanks for catching it. David Brooks (talk) 18:03, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
I would agree with you about studylight (but I think any link is better than none), and would by preference use archive.org. I do not think that you need worry about link rot. If it takes place then it should be relatively easy to fix with a regular expression in AWB. I suspect that ports of articles to Wikisource will be relatively slow. Not infrequently I create an article on Wikisource for EB1911. Do you know how to do that? If not take a look at
--PBS (talk) 18:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)