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Welcome![edit]

Hi David Biddulph, and a warm welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you have enjoyed editing as much as I did so far and decide to stay. Unfamiliar with the features and workings of Wikipedia? Don't fret! Be Bold! Here's some good links for your reference and that'll get you started in no time!

Most Wikipedians would prefer to just work on articles of their own interest. But if you have some free time to spare, here are some open tasks that you may want to help out :

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  • RC Patrol - Keeping a lookout for vandalism.
  • Cleanup - Help make unreadable articles readable.
  • Requests - Wanted on WP, but hasn't been created.
  • Merge - Combining duplicate articles into one.
  • Wikiprojects - So many to join, so many to choose from...Take your pick!

Oh yes, don't forget to sign when you write on talk pages, simply type four tildes, like this: [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 17:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC). This will automatically add your name and the time after your comments. And finally, if you have any questions or doubts, don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Once again, welcome! =)

- Mailer Diablo 17:34, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXIV, June 2011[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue LXV, July 2011[edit]

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Icon fix - rename pending[edit]

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Blocking a vandal[edit]

Hi, i was just wondering, since i'm not entirely sure who am i supposed to turn to in case of very frequent vandalism from an ip address, if you could help me block User talk:170.185.55.19 as you have already recently posted a warning to him and because in the 24 hours i've reverted at least 10 of his clear vandalism. Even if you could only point me in the right direction as to whom am i supposed to appeal in such cases i'll be must grateful. thx, --Macarenses (talk) 06:15, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

The place you need is WP:AIV. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:25, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

24.232.255.8[edit]

Wanted to let you know that the user only made that edit after the long time period. If a user is warned, and doesn't get blocked, after a while of no warnings and no vandalism, from what I know, it usually is supposed to start at a level 1 warning again. Also, may I point you to the report at WP:AIV? The diff for the most recent edit to the page prior to sending you this is located here. LikeLakers2 (talk) 20:19, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

It seemed to be a continuation of the vandalism by 201.250.156.111 (talk · contribs · info · WHOIS), but point taken. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:24, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
Well, I would wish to point out that I had not much way of knowing this until I saw this reply, but thanks. :) LikeLakers2 (talk) 20:25, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

How do I undo the 'vandalism' I did in error concerning categories that you informed me about? Is there an easy way of changing a sub-category to a regional category for instance? Foot Slogger (talk) 19:27, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXVI, August 2011[edit]

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Thanks.[edit]

Thanks. I forgot to add the "talk". [1] Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

He's got the paramaters of the requested move wrong too. He's requested that List of buses be moved to Talk page for List of bus models, and the article itself. See Wikipedia:Requested moves#September 15, 2011. :-( - David Biddulph (talk) 09:57, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I wanted to thank you for replying to my message in the tea house, the assistance was a huge help, thank you. Conor Robinson (talk) 10:38, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Help Desk[edit]

I'm not sure what happened, but when you tried to fix a previous error on the Help Desk, 18k of data disappeared, including some questions/answers added in the interim. o_O TNXMan 14:11, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I put it back to the current questions and answers (Oct 19th to 22nd), instead of the old stuff from Oct 14th to 17th which had been archived but which had been (presumaby accidentally) put in place of the current stuff. I think the question from 17th which you answered today had been previously answered before it was archived. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:31, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

My deleted entry[edit]

Thanks, David, for your message. I'm puzzled. There was a discussion, linked from elsewhere, about the inclusion of a date of birth in the Ken P. Chong article. Since I was the person who added the date of birth, I thought I had better join in the discussion. I clicked edit and just added my bit of text. I don't understand what I did wrong – and, worse, I don't know how to add to that discussion without causing the same problem again. Any chance you could enlighten me? Regards — Hebrides (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

I've copied the thread and your reply and posted it into the current WP:HD, so we've now got the current questions and answers, together with your answer to the thread which been archived before you had had a chance to answer. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:41, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks :) — Hebrides (talk) 15:14, 22 September 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks, David for answering my first question. I have a lot of eperience and knowledge, and some major research history. However, Wiki code is NEW to me and I feel like I am floating in the ocean struggilng to keep my head above water. Cathlec (talk) 17:38, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Genting Group[edit]

Hi David. Please check the article talk. Thanks! 160.83.105.33 (talk) 04:06, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Pypbihar[edit]

I phail. Thanks a lot for spotting my error! :) Happy editing, Snowolf How can I help? 16:59, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Message for you at User talk:Cathlec[edit]

Hi there. There is an request for your feedback at User talk:Cathlec#Completed First Article. Regards SoWhy 17:53, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Message for you at User talk:Cathlec[edit]

David> I have reads some of the articles about using talk pages to communicate. Not sure yeat about a lot of the internnal workings, so took a chance. Basically, this is a test of how to communicate through another users talk page. Excuse my iignorance; hoped this work. My article has been moved because i followed a link about what to do when I finished my articel. Would still like to use you as my primary guide through this process. Thanks again, CatherineCathlec (talk) 21:07, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Your message got through, thanks, Catherine. Glad to see that your article is making progress. Hopefully by this stage others who know more about the subject (and about Wikipedia) than I do will be able to help you on from here. You'll have seen that there's quite a backlog at Category:Pending AfC submissions, but hopefully one of the experts there who specialise in new article reviews will get round to looking at it before too long. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks David. I wondered if it would have to be someone who specializes (new articles, music, discographies, etc.) who would have to review. Hope I don't have to wait to long, because I want to use the article to get help from some other sources that I need material from.. that I would like to include when I do the major expansion on Sergio Franchi's biography. But, Thanks again. (Have visited England many times when I was a ballroom dancer, but not in your region.)CatherineCathlec (talk) 20:48, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Lords vote[edit]

Thanks for your comments. I am happy to change the title from controversy to something else. However, the Bill is controversial, and the decision of almost all Liberal Lords to vote with the government is also controversial given that there is no whip in the Lords. However the information is still a fact; this is how these people voted. It cannot be WP:SOAPBOX if it is factual (not scandal mongering, advertising, self-promotion etc, etc))? I am not planning to alter 80 wikipages, I'll leave that to other people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rondoggy (talkcontribs) 13:45, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I've replied where the point was first raised, on your talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Notice of discussion on voting patterns[edit]

Hi, I am contacting you to make you aware of a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom#Voting patterns, as you appear to have been implicitly reffered to within this discussion as an editor who has previously commented on this matter elsewhere or involved in reversions pertaining to this. Any comments to reach a consensus are welcomed. I have endevored to comply with guidelines with this notice.. Thanks, Zangar (talk) 12:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

== Nuclear subs ==3

Whoops! Yes, sorry, I was correcting an incorrect "all British nuclear subs were built at Barrow" point in one article, knew that wasn't right, but then read that only Conqueror was not a Barrow-built sub elsewhere... I'll have to amend a few articles! David (talk) 09:55, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXVII, September 2011[edit]

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Chesham to Chalfont and Latimer.[edit]

Your cite only goes to confirm that the distance between those stations on the Metropolitan Line is NOT the longest distance between stations on the Metropolitan Line. Finchley Road to Wembley Park is still nearly twice as long. There are no intervening stations on the Metropolitan Line. Redrose64 attempted to bullshit his way out of this by claiming that some Metropolitan Line trains stopped at two of the intervening Jubilee Line stations. The Metropolitan Line timetable betrays this as a lie as no trains make station stops between Finchley Road and Wembley Park (at least none that TfL are aware of). 109.156.49.202 (talk) 14:46, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

As someone else has pointed out, the cited ref wasn't talking about distances between stations on the Met line, but between stations on the network. Also please remember WP:civility, WP:AGF, and WP:NPA, and don't accuse Redrose64 of "a lie" and "bullshit". We know that the Met trains don't usually stop there, but they do stop there during service disruptions and (unadvertised) on some early morning and late evening services. See here, for example. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:24, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Yes, I conceed the point. The article was ambiguous because it was talking about the Metropolitan Line. It then vaguely referred to 'the network' without making it clear that this was not the Metropolitan Line network, but the whole tube network, hence my misinterpretation. Still, it's much clearer now, so a positive result - eventually. 109.156.49.202 (talk) 16:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. Now clear. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:45, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Leave a message link[edit]

I have no idea, I have only just noticed it redirects to another user's talk page. It's fixed now though. Stevo1000 (talk) 21:23, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

WT:CRIC[edit]

Hi David. Thanks for your help earlier on. All the best. ----Jack | talk page 15:41, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Glass[edit]

Please see Wikipedia:Help_desk#recent_edit_I_suggested. Ta.  Chzz  ►  02:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that was what prompted me to look at the article in the first place. I corrected the obvious error which had put something in front of the existing lede, but it needs more work than I have time for. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Footnote formatting[edit]

Re: footnote layout for Decibel, I have no objection to your change, but you may be interested in WP:CITEBUNDLE. --Noleander (talk) 02:12, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I hadn't seen that before. I had originally intended merely to cure a formatting error in the list of new refs, so I'll go back and do that. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:18, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

French Military articles.[edit]

The sad thing is that with a little bit of training and following of the rules, he (User talk:G St-Germain) could be *really* good wikipedia editor.Naraht (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, quite agree. That was why I've been trying to point him in the right direction. My guess is that it's a language problem. If all else fails I might try some of my schoolboy French on him, but that may do more harm than good.  :-) I didn't want to go too far down the road of correcting all his errors, because that way he wouldn't learn what he needs to change. We'll keep trying. I didn't want to get too heavy too early, but I thought that after the previous efforts at advice from a number of us hadn't borne fruit, we needed to make it clear that he couldn't carry on the way he was going. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:31, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Could you explain this edit? 71.146.20.62 (talk) 02:11, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

An error, hence the self-reversion a minute later. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:22, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXVIII, October 2011[edit]

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Thanks[edit]

Just to say thanks for your input at the Diane Coyle article. It can be a thankless task dealing with COI editors and I appreciate your help.--Shakehandsman (talk) 18:25, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

I sympathise with her predicament, but she didn't seem to be listening to the earlier gentle warnings, and didn't look as if she was going to follow the proper route for getting the problem solved. Good that a number of other people are taking an interest. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

A404 editing...[edit]

I am still a new boy, and much appreciate any help. Thank you for correcting my stupid ,careless mistake. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 12:13, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome. Those of us who have been here for years still make stupid careless mistakes.  :-( David Biddulph (talk) 12:16, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Warning levels?[edit]

Why are you starting with level 4 warnings on standard vandalism, as in this edit? Usually, we use a series of escalating warnings, jumping to level 4 only for extremely poor behavior. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Because there have been numerous instances of vandalism since the return from a 2 week block last month. If I had thought that the IP might probably have been used by multiple users I might not have been so severe, but the articles being vandalised looked to me to indicate the same persistent vandal. YMMV, of course. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:33, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXIX, November 2011[edit]

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List of Governors-General of New Zealand[edit]

I actually want the point of my edits (removing the acting ones) to be kept but the thechnical faults to be solved.--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:03, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

You've done so many changes, and upset the formatting of the table at so many different changes, that it looks as if it would be easier to put it back as it was, then you can do your changes again but check that you've got them right (using "Show preview") before you save them. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:11, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I did that maaaany times. I tried to fix it by any possible means. The truth is that I don't know how to do. Can you or someone do it for me or try to explain me how it works?--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:19, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
OK, I reverted everything. We may take it from the begining.--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


OK, OK, calm down. I reverted everything. Can you tell me how to do it without technical faults?--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I've corrected the first error on the table. Tables are complicated. There is some help at Help:Table. The main thing is to check it as you go using "Show preview" to make sure that the change has done what you intended. Don't save until you have checked. If you find tables difficult you may want to avoid that sort of edit. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I've already read it but I did not understand anything. I looked at the code again and again and again... but I could not even understand my error. Can you do it for me, please?--46.246.230.229 (talk) 13:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I don't have time to spare at the moment. If you can't cope with tables yourself, you may want to try suggesting changes at the article talk page, and see whether anyone else wants to do it. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:51, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

E1 Music[edit]

Hi David--

You helped me post a merge proposal for E1 Music last month. In the meantime the article has now been anonymously vandalized with several sequential changes, only the last of which I've undone. I don't know the procedure for restoring it to its pre-vandal state. Thanks for any help here. Milkunderwood (talk) 21:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Done. In future, if you look at the article history and select differences between the last good version and the vandalised version you can then select the "undo" option and that will undo the lot. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
Thanks very much. So what you mean is to go back to the initial vandalism, and that will automatically undo the entire lot, with all the subsequent ones? (Just being careful that there are no intervening legitimate posts of course.) Milkunderwood (talk) 21:23, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
True. For experienced users it is also possible to obtain a "rollback" privilege to allow successive vandalism edits by the same user to be reverted in one click, and there are also various tools (such as Twinkle) to do similar things, but of course any such tools must be used with caution. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:29, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Well, I'm more a visitor than an "editor". I very rarely run into this situation, but I might need to visit with you again some time in the future if I find a sticky one. I knew there a prohibition against undoing multiple edits sequentially, so this tip will be helpful. Thanks again for your help. Milkunderwood (talk) 03:16, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm not aware of any such "prohibition" per se, but if possible it's cleaner to deal with them as a batch. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:44, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

Oh - I thought it was illegal to reverse on a page more than 3 times, is what I've been told, but maybe I misunderstood the context.

Actually, let me ask you an entirely different question also: What is the easiest way to track article "moves" where the title is changed, but it wasn't described as such in the edit summary so that you can just look down through the history? Or is there an easy way at all? Backing up one edit at a time just displays changes in the text, not the title. And sometimes a title is changed without going through a proposal (actually I've done that myself). Milkunderwood (talk) 03:56, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

A move should appear in the article history, and also in the Move log, and will appear in your watchlist if you are watching the article. Moves can often not be reverted without admin help, but it depends on the circumstances. A move doesn't need a move proposal if it is uncontroversial (such as correcting a spelling error); more detail at Wikipedia:Moving a page. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:07, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
That answers my question - I wasn't aware of the Move log.
And now that I think of it, I bet the context of the 3 reverts was for the same edit, which would be edit warring. Milkunderwood (talk) 04:14, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
The three revert rule doesn't necessarily mean the same edit, but reversion of "obvious vandalism" is specifically exempted from that rule. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:28, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXX, January 2012[edit]

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Section headings[edit]

Thank you kindly, sir. Have a good day. CaptainScreebo Parley! 12:41, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. If there were any sections that ought to have been sub-sections of the one above, I may have missed them in the change I did, but you'd be able to sort that out easily. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:43, 15 February 2012 (UTC)


Many thanks[edit]

Many thanks for your response to my query at Wikipedia: Help desk, in view of the mess I made - inadvertently, I hasten to add - of the article List of chocolate bar brands. The article is looking good now - the presentation of it is better than it was first thing today (February 16 2012)! Again, thank you for your help. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 15:16, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I was in the process of restoring the table header, but someone else got there first. Now all we need is to be able to taste a sample of each.  :-) - David Biddulph (talk) 15:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Facebook's Open source contributions[edit]

We already have a topic on this on the talk page. Raysonho (talk) 04:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I have read that. Please read Wikipedia's policies, and stop your disruptive edits to the article. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:06, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I am adding refs - and no, my edits are not disruptive. Raysonho (talk) 04:10, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
You have been told that Facebook is not a reliable source, and yet despite the warnings you have continued your edit war. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:14, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Then let me ask you again, did you read the talk page carefully? The facebook page is the project homepage of MySQL contributions maintained by software developers working on MySQL. Not every single page on facebook is unreliable. Raysonho (talk) 04:18, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
What is stopping you, or me, or any other Facebook contributor, from posting on that Facebook page? Much better to find a reference to an authoritative publication. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:35, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Only the Facebook engineers who contribute to MySQL can post on that Facebook page, others can comment on the page.
And that's the project homepage that centralizes all the MySQL contribution activities from facebook. Raysonho (talk) 04:57, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Let me add that the page is nicer because no other pages group the contribution from facebook better than that page - e.g. More changes shared for the Facebook patch. I've added the link to the source as the 2nd ref, and as the source code does not lie, it is a better "reliable source". Raysonho (talk) 05:08, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXI, February 2012[edit]

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Discussion regarding a revert[edit]

For your orientation, a revert by you [2] is discussed at Wikipedia:New contributors' help page/questions#Editing. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Please feel free to go through all of my puportedly "blind reverts" and see which articles aren't associated with collectables. here. Dreadstar 23:52, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
This was one obvious example, which I have reverted. - David Biddulph (talk) 23:59, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, a mistake is bound to happen when reveting dozens of inappropriate edits. Sorry for that one... So, um, what about those in the list I provided? Please make sure I didn't make more mistakes - I mean, really, is an Antique a collectable? Nah...bash me! Go ahead! I love it!  :) Dreadstar 00:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
The reason I removed Antique from the Category:Collecting is because Category:Antiques is in Category:Collecting. While there is a guideline about eponymous article being in the parent category it is largely ignored, and rightly so in my opinion. It just adds to the "clutter". -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 00:42, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
That's what I was asking you to explain; now go through the list of the thirty-something removals you did. Perhaps there's sound reasoning for each, but ignoring me and taking me to AN/I for saying "bullshit" totally derailed any civil discussion we may have had. And these little civilty nannys who jump in here, but aren't anywhere to be found when really disruptive, personal attacking, uncivil editors are on the loose, really disrupt the entire proceedings. You may be right, Alan, but you certainly haven't backed it up with any dialogue. Dreadstar 00:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
And sorry for posting this on your talk page David, but this is the first place where Liefting actually discussed this issue with me. Dreadstar 00:59, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Ooooo! Last name terms now! I explained my edits on my talk page and at Category talk:Collecting. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 01:13, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

I appreciate the information about the mistake I made, thank you for your help, I'll make sure to do it right next time. (Esw01407 (talk) 02:02, 14 March 2012 (UTC))

Thanks[edit]

Thank you for your warning,i will sign my edits from now on! Odiriuss (talk) 15:26, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Alleged anti-semitism at Eton College[edit]

The editor (who I see you have rightly reprimanded on his talk page) put back all the stuff that you deleted. I have now toned it down considerably to remove his most blatant bits of axe-grinding, and removed the reference to an article which is clearly mistaken. The other stuff I am not sure about (unfortunately I cannot access the relevant part of the A.J. Ayer book). Would you have a look and see if you think it will now do? Meanwhile, the argument has continued both on my talk page and on the article's talk page. The editor concerned clearly ought to be blocked or banned. How do we go about that? -- Alarics (talk) 08:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

And he is now accusing *me* of anti-semitism! See my talk page. -- Alarics (talk) 15:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Eton two veg[edit]

I accept your point about adding rubbish, but I must also insist you've come in halfway through on the Eton article, and so only got half the story on my editing. The material that is unequivocally "complete rubbish" ("illiterate Jew of Eton"), which I added purely to irritate those with a soft-spot for the place, is now not in the Eton College article; I've not re-added it, and will not. The other bit of info, the antisemitic admissions policy, that I thought possibly might at least be exaggerated—since I was originally having trouble finding even another mention of the policy, let alone confirmation of its dirty details—actually turned out to be true, since I found an additional source (as requested) to augment the original, unacceptable Tablet article. 99% of my edits are OK; I direct you to my contributions history.
~ Iloveandrea (talk) 15:06, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Examples of articles I've either written or massively improved:
*Fracking
*Fracking in the UK
*Sir Mervyn King
*Mau Mau
And please now make adjustments for Alarics, whose views toward me are now stoked by my having shown him to be wrong on something he obviously cares a great deal about.
~ Iloveandrea (talk) 15:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
He hasn't "shown me to be wrong" at all. It was commenters to the Tablet article who pointed out that the information in that article was wrong, or at best a gross and unfair oversimplification. I certainly do not "care a great deat about" Eton. What I care about is making the Wikipedia article about it fair and neutral, with facts backed by reliable sources, not wild unsupported assertions. -- Alarics (talk) 15:34, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
Yes, shown wrong. These were your words: "It is quite clear that there was no anti-Jewish admissions policy at Eton." I rest my case.
~ Iloveandrea (talk) 20:39, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
You have not shown that there was an anti-Jewish admissions policy. What you have shown is that a 1945 statute (which according to one commenter applied only to King's Scholars, a small minority of Eton students) was thought by A.J. Ayer to have had "a whiff of anti-Semitism" about it. Whether it did or not, it lasted only for about 15 years, so cannot be described in the sweeping terms you originally stated as a long-standing deliberate policy to exclude Jews. You still have not explained how a policy to require applicants' fathers to be born in Britain could be expected to result in the exclusion of Jews, when so many Jewish families have been in Britain for centuries. And as another commenter pointed out, there have been many Jewish boys at Eton (including A.J. Ayer himself), so it is obviously nonsense to suggest any systematic discriminatory admissions policy. Your initial statement in the article was at best a grotesque and misleading exaggeration and it was, and remains, clear that it was not justified. I rest my case. -- Alarics (talk) 22:35, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
(David, I am sorry this has all ended up on your talk page. Would you like to move it to the article's talk page?) -- Alarics (talk) 22:40, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

This is really getting tedious now, you're wasting far too much of my time. Let me make the following clear: I never claimed, not even to irritate, that there was a centuries-long exclusionary admissions-policy; my irritating words, which I knew would be snipped out the moment they were discovered, stated simply that the place had "a long history of antisemitism". There is a clear distinction between the two. I have also never claimed, not even to irritate, that the post-1945 policy constituted bulletproof exclusion. Indeed, that may not have been the actual intent of the policy: the intent may only have been to keep the number of new Jewish Etonians at some sort of absolute minimum. (Obviously bring in here mention of Elliott's memorandum, p. 270 of Rogers' biography: "College did not want too many boys of foreign outlook"). A policy based on either the partial or the total exclusion of Jewish children is a disgrace, but just listen to this guy: "only fifteen years". If it had applied to only one year's intake it would have been an absolute disgrace—why can't he grasp that? I have my own suspicions, mentioned as an aside below, that are steadily reinforced each time I read his mealy-mouthed apologetics.

"according to one commenter..." A negative assertion about his precious Eton made in an article in the Jewish press is deemed unacceptable without a further source to back it up, yet he's now arguing that an unsourced comment on the same article is to be taken seriously as a way to combat a book from a major publisher. No further comment is required, but let's hold him to his own standards: his task is to find a credible source to show that the 1945 policy applied only to King's Scholars. Actually, I'll save him the effort: looking at it again, Rogers' Ayer biography can serve as the source. On p. 270, we learn that the Jewish son of a foreign-born father was the person "who wanted . . . a scholarship"; as I suspected, when I put the word 'Colleger' into the search bar of the book preview on Amazon, the first search result, on p. 28, yields the following: "As a King's Scholar, Ayer joined College, a group of seventy pupils who occupied a special place in this special world. Scholars or Collegers, as they were also known, came together with the other boys—Oppidans—in the Corps, on the sports field, and in chapel." Finally, marrying up the definition of Colleger with the other info on p. 270—"a statute requiring that the fathers of Collegers should be British by birth"—I think we can agree without hesitation that the 1945 policy, regardless of its motivation, only applied to Collegers/Scholars.

Scholarships to one side, you mangled the Ayer biography slightly: the evidence presented there, pp. 270–1, is not only Ayer's sense of a "whiff" or "flavour" of antisemitism, but also Ayer's testimony that Provost Sir Claude Elliott admitted the policy's true focus was Jewish children. Which Jewish children? See below...

As an aside, I will mention "Mele's putative four sources of motivated bias: 1) Negative misinterpretation; 2) Positive misinterpretation; 3) Selective focusing; 4) Selective evidence gathering. Three more well documented sources of bias: a) vividness of information; b) availability heuristic; c) confirmation bias."

"there have been many Jewish boys at Eton (including A.J. Ayer himself), so it is obviously nonsense to suggest any systematic discriminatory admissions policy." I was initially rendered unconscious by the stupidity—nay, just desperation—betrayed by those words, but I've recovered and am now able to type again: The period of the exclusionary policy began in 1945. Ayer was born in 1910, and so would not even have been at Eton during the relevant period, let alone applied for a scholarship during the same. How Ayer, and the existence of other Jewish Old Etonians, can possibly be adduced in the cause of proving there was no anti-Jewish admissions policy for the period after 1945 is quite beyond me.

"You still have not explained how a policy to require applicants' fathers to be born in Britain could be expected to result in the exclusion of Jews." Use of the word "still" is not merited, but I understand the reason for this question: I misapprehended the original Tablet article when it said students' fathers must be "British by birth". For some reason, I took that as having an ethnic connotation. After reading the Ayer biography, which uses the exact same phrase of "British by birth", which in turn tempts a suggestion that the Tablet journalist was copying the biography when he wrote the article, I for some reason realised my mistake and understood it meant just being born here, no ethnic connotation. Anyway, you can observe my corrected understanding in my biography-sourced addition to the article.

As for your requested explanation: look at the year the policy was instituted: 1945—"though the nation did not open its arms unreservedly to Jewish refugees fleeing the Nazi regime in the 1930s, it did allow some 40,000 Jews from Austria and Germany to settle in Britain along with 50,000 Jews from Italy, Poland, and elsewhere in Eastern Europe - and the 10,000 Kindertransport children rescued on the eve of war". I've already given you a suggestion as to why they didn't put the condition on the mother (too crass), and I'll make a further suggestion that because Britain's influx of foreign Jews during the war consisted of impoverished refugees, restricting the 1945 policy to would-be Collegers would have been good enough to select against the new pool of foreign Jews (the only way their kids could have got into Eton is via scholarship; refugees couldn't afford the fees). Whether either suggestion is near the mark is immaterial; they do, however, serve their purpose.

"David, I am sorry..." No one likes a suck up.

For a serious, non-irritating compromise, in the article we could state that the admissions policy applied only to Collegers (though, for the reason suggested above, this could potentially mislead the reader), and enter the necessary caveats: according to Ayer, X was the case; again according to Ayer, Elliott admitted that X was the case. What do you reckon?

Well, a few small pieces of Ayer and Etonian trivia, if nothing else, have been gained from this unusually extended irritation.
~ Iloveandrea (talk) 07:38, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Also should have mentioned that Macmillan wrote to Elliot objecting to what he regard as the antsemitic tone of the statute. Wasn't just Ayer who saw the policy as basically antsemitic.
~ Iloveandrea (talk) 08:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
I shall ignore your stupid personal insults. My mention of "only 15 years" was not in any way to defend any such policy, but merely to point out how different that is from the impression you initially gave, with your "long history" introduction and no mention of 1945, that this policy had been there for centuries and might still be in force. Without looking any further, this impression is obviously disproven by the fact that Ayer himself was at Eton, which is why I pointed that out. Of course I am aware that he was there long before 1945. I have never doubted that there was antisemitic feeling at Eton, as was generally the case among some or all of the English upper classes, and I said so at the outset, and that is reflected in the revised opening that I have put on the paragraph, "In the past, Eton has been guilty of antisemitism, like English society generally". This sets the matter properly in context. The bald assertion in the Tablet article -- "Eton (....) required that its students' fathers be British by birth, so as to keep out the Jews" -- on which you based your initial intervention, proves to be without justification, as I said all along, and as you now seem to be admitting. And yes, I do think you should amend the article to make it clear that any anti-Jewish policy applied only to King's Scholars. It's not that that makes it any better (I never said any of this was good), just that it is misleading not to include that qualification. As for the idea that Eton is precious to me, anyone who knows my personal views about the English class system and private education will find that extremely hilarious. You should not make such silly assumptions. I already said that I hold no brief for Eton. I am simply concerned that the article be accurate. My personal opinions (which happen to be leftwing and pro-Jewish) have nothing to do with it. It is a requirement for editing Wikipedia that one leaves one's own point of view at the door. -- Alarics (talk) 08:31, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXII, March 2012[edit]

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Biodiversity of New Caledonia, paleobotany forgotten[edit]

Hello, could you to work on this article, please? Biodiversity of New Caledonia. It is a very important archaic species group in Paleobotany and evolution.85.251.99.49 (talk) 08:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

SFL 2[edit]

Hello, I saw thay you previously had commented on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 1 (2nd nomination). I wanted to draw your attention to the Articles for Discussion occuring currently. You may find it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SFL 2. Please feel free to comment. Hasteur (talk) 15:12, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your amazingly fast response[edit]

Hello David,

Once again you have come to my rescue with amazing speed.

Thank you very much. Kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 19:31, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for fixing the incorrect page move on article Leyla Aliyeva (presenter). WesleyMouse 01:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIII, April 2012[edit]

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A kitten for you![edit]

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thank u


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The Bugle: Issue LXXIV, May 2012[edit]

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Tulln an der Donau[edit]

Any special reasons why you've reverted my last edit to this article although I gave a clear source for that? Master Katarn (talk) 15:11, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

why the revert to WP:RFC/BOARD[edit]

David, Why are you reverting the WP:RFC/BOARD. I have been painstakingly responding to over 80 RfCs and deleting from here when done. The Edit Comments explains the actions taken. Your didn't include an explanation of your revert in the Edit Comment when you undid my changes.

Coastside (talk) 15:21, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Totally unintentional. I guess it's this not infrequent problem of the page moving just as I was clicking to rollback something else. I've reverted my change. Thanks for pointing it out. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:28, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing it. Coastside (talk) 15:34, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Windermere[edit]

I agree that your alternative interpretation could have been what was intended, and will change it back, with a request for clarification. --- Ehrenkater (talk) 12:08, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive[edit]

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Proposed deletion of article to which you have contributed[edit]

A few days ago I was informed that the article Metrication of British transport was being considered for deletion. As you have made at least one contribution to this article or to its Talk page, you might like to contribute to the debate at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Metrication of British transport. I have sent this note to everybody whose name was thrown up by the "Contributions" facility of the article and of its Talk Page (apart from those who have already contributed).

Thank you for your reverts of 15 edits done by an IP.[edit]

The user (92.26.130.145) who done fifteen edits to Shanghai Maglev Train, has been reverted because it contained unconstructive edits. Now the user could also be engaged in an edit war with another editor. The three-revert rule states that making more than three reverts in 24 hours will result in a block by an administrator. Thank you for your reverts; why not try to use these following abbreviations: rv - stands for revert rvv - stands for reverting vandalism. 2.216.191.10 (talk) 14:42, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012[edit]

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Metrication of British Transport (vote)[edit]

Hi. You have been involved in editing MoBT in the last few weeks. There is a vote going on about what to do with the ERTMS section. If you wish to cast an opinion, the vote runs until Monday. Steve Hosgood (talk) 16:11, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Articles on Bob Janousek and Penny Chuter[edit]

Hello, Peter Wilkinson here (Grace Wilkinson's son, Bridget's brother). Looking at Wikipedia during Britain's Olympic rowing triumphs, I noticed some gaps in coverage of British rowing history and have tried to plug a couple of the gaps by expanding the article on Bohumil Janoušek to cover his subsequent British career (and the name he has been known by during it) and by creating an article on Penny Chuter. In both cases, I think I have done enough to keep the information (and articles) in existence until someone else can improve them, but I know that, while I have done the best I could without far more work, both articles are still almost certainly missing important details and are not as well sourced as they might be. I would be grateful if you (or other Wikipedians with more rowing knowledge than I have) could look them over and, when time allows, improve them. PWilkinson (talk) 15:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Getting Wikimedians to the Olympic Games[edit]

Hi. I am part of an effort to get Wikimedians access to the 2016 Summer Olympics as accredited reporters and photographers. Part of this effort includes covering the 2012 Summer Paralympics. Two Wikimedians have credentials to attend these games as reporters through Wikimedia Australia. As English Wikipedia does not allow original reporting, this is largely through Wikinews with a project page found at Wikinews:Paralympic Games. If you are interested in helping to get Wikimedians to the next Summer Olympics,I'd encourage you to assist with Wikinews efforts, and also to work on all language 2012 Summer Paralympic Wikipedia articles before, during and after the Games to demonstrate a track record of success. Thank you. --LauraHale (talk) 04:52, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

didn't spot it[edit]

The other Torpedo change was plain as a pikestaff, and I missed it. Mea culpa. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 15:46, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012[edit]

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The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)[edit]

Welcome to the first edition of The Olive Branch. This will be a place to semi-regularly update editors active in dispute resolution (DR) about some of the most important issues, advances, and challenges in the area. You were delivered this update because you are active in DR, but if you would prefer not to receive any future mailing, just add your name to this page.

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Military history coordinator election[edit]

The Military history WikiProject has started its 2012 project coordinator election process, where we will select a team of coordinators to organize the project over the coming year. If you would like to be considered as a candidate, please submit your nomination by 14 September. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact one of the current coordinators on their talk page. This message was delivered here because you are a member of the Military history WikiProject. – Military history coordinators (about the projectwhat coordinators do) 08:53, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

thank your for response[edit]

I talked about the Chinese versions of these articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.117.157.164 (talk) 17:55, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

In which case, as I said at the Help Desk, the question needs to be asked in Chinese Wikipedia. We here in the English Wikipedia can't answer questions about edits there. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:59, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I can't, I can contact nobody in Chinese on zh.wikipedia.org — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.117.157.164 (talk) 18:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

These articles do no more reflect the facts (or almost distorted). I worry about it. Other articles on some French companies, he deleted the "markets and products", the CEO names, as they are advertising. I don't understand this person! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.117.157.164 (talk) 19:30, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

It's no good talking to me if your problem is on Chinese Wikipedia. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:44, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

OK, thank you any way. I don't know why Chinese Wikipedia let him do this? I wrote to several of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.117.157.164 (talk) 20:28, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Croatian rowing[edit]

Yes, but all four crewman were ethnical Croats, from Split, Croatia, from Split's "Gusar" rowing club, at the time part of the rowing union of Croatia within Yugoslavia. Furthermore, why is then 1988 olympics counted in Slovenian achievements?--140.180.252.239 (talk) 17:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

I've put a note in Slovenian Rowing Federation to clarify that the 1988 medal was for YUG, not for SLO. The section starts by saying: "Slovenian rowers have many international successes ...", so it could be argued that it is referring to Slovenian rowers, not to rowers racing for Slovenia. Personally I wouldn't include wins under the name of the previous federation, or I would include them under a separate section. You may want to do something similar with yours, but if in your table of Croatian Olympic wins you additionally include wins which were not under the name of Croatia they are likely to be deleted by another editor. You may, of course, wish to seek advice at Talk:Croatian_Rowing_Federation, but I don't know how widely that page is watched; I had your page on my watchlist merely because I had reverted some vandalism on the page a number of years ago. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:07, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012[edit]

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Thanks[edit]

My finger slipped and I inadvertently reverted at ANI! JoeSperrazza (talk) 12:21, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I've done it myself before now, so I recognised the symptoms. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:25, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I'd take it personally if it didn't happen to me far too often! GiantSnowman 12:36, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
I'd prefer it if rollback had the facility to preview & confirm, like a normal edit, but I guess that folk who use it more than I do (and don't ever hit the button accidentally) wouldn't want the extra click. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:43, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
The point of rollback is that it is just 1 click - otherwise why not use the 'Undo' button as normal? GiantSnowman 13:13, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
Partly because the default edit summary from rollback is slightly more informative, telling the reader whose version I've gone back to. And if it's more than one edit at a time that is being rolled back, undo won't give a default edit summary at all. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012[edit]

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Your help desk response[edit]

Resolved

This response has a date but no signature. And it's not as simple as typing "~", as I found out. The date is there now rather than "~~~", which is what I assume you typed.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 18:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. If my memory serves me right, 3 tildes gives name, 5 gives date, and 4 gives both. Sorted now. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:46, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia: WikiProject Spam[edit]

I don't think the IPs about to stop. I have ties to an Admin who's handled School IPs and am passing the case on to him. Meva / CHCSPrefect - (Give cake?) 11:27, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

The IP been blocked for a month (after I reported at WP:AIV), but if someone can contact the school and educate them it would be a good thing. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:30, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Adding references is easy...really![edit]

The reftool bar is now a default within the editing window, see the No installation required section of Wikipedia:RefToolbar 2.0. Perhaps you somehow have it disabled in your 'My Preferences'? Shearonink (talk) 01:59, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that pointer. I had the old Wikipedia:RefToolbar 1.0 version, but the link you gave me showed me which preference to change. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:17, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Thankyou[edit]

For helping me tidy up The Girls' Day Out Show and teaching the rules - It's all starting to make sense now - Do you think it needs some more work? If so, any suggestions? Rosiehannah (talk) 12:48, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

It's getting there slowly. Two areas where there is scope for improvement are:
  • You've got repeated links to the same wiki article, so you ought to read Wikipedia:OVERLINK.
But certainly making progress, and don't get disheartened that there is still plenty more to learn; enjoy the challenge! - David Biddulph (talk) 13:01, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012[edit]

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Sandbox problem[edit]

Hi David. I've just left this message on the Village Pump page and am posting it here to ensure you see it: That's fantastic, David. Thanks for your very prompt and clear explanation and help in returning the Sandbox back to virgin territory. I'll copy and paste your explanation for future reference. I edit a lot on Wikipedia, but I still don't understand its various mechanisms and am never sure how to look anything up when seeking guidance. I appreciate what you've done for me. Kim Traynor (talk) 23:41, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation[edit]

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Thank you for your recent submission to Articles for Creation. Your article submission has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please view your submission to see the comments left by the reviewer. You are welcome to edit the submission to address the issues raised, and resubmit once you feel they have been resolved.
Thanks for the notification, but it wasn't my submission! - David Biddulph (talk) 21:58, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

It's 2:1 now, so there must be a rational explanation[edit]

Hello David. You are now the second person to undo my edit to Geoffrey Biggs. After the first one, I assumed, naively perhaps, that I was right and they were wrong, so I changed it back again. However, now you've done it too, I wondered if you could help me to understand why, by explaining your reasoning please. First though, let me reiterate why I made the edit. As I understood it, and as seems to be supported by Royal Navy (disambiguation), there are many royal navies. So I thought, rather than having to click through to a link to find out which one was being referred to, it would help the reader if the text was explicit. Dainful (talk) 22:53, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

There is one Royal Navy, which is why the Wikipedia link for those words goes to Royal Navy. The first paragraph of that article explains Due to this historical prominence, it is common – even among non-Britons – to refer to it as "The Royal Navy" without qualification. There are royal navies of other countries, which each have the country's name as part of the title; these are listed at Royal Navy (disambiguation). - David Biddulph (talk) 08:41, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply. It wasn't against Wikipedia rules, as such, then, it is just a judgement call on your part. You don't think we need to cater for those in the world who aren't aware of that navy's historical prominence and don't immediately realise that, although as Royal Navy (disambiguation) explains "Royal Navy can also refer to" one of over 25 other royal navies, in this other article in Wikipedia, it only means the British Royal Navy. Dainful (talk) 22:41, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012[edit]

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Edits to Wikipedia:Requested articles/Sports[edit]

Matt Sydal is now Evan Bourne and the others have canged there name 2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.79.25.1 (talk) 13:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

If that is the case, I suggest that you put a note alongside each old name to link to the article for the new name. It would also be worth creating redirects from the old names. Having thus explained why new articles are no longer needed, you could then in a later edit remove the entries, but you shouldn't remove them without explanation. - David Biddulph (talk) 13:55, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013[edit]

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mandolin Society[edit]

Dear David:

The above page was redirecting through my sandbox, and I was trying to get the sandbox back so that I could start working on another page. A Tea House editor helped me sort that out, so if you need the old page for some internal purpose, it's no longer a problem for me —Anne Delong (talk) 15:50, 25 January 2013 (UTC).

The reason that the redirect from the AFC page should remain is that a number of places, including your Teahouse question as well as the AFC index, refer to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Mandolin Society, and if a user gets there they ought to be able to find where the article has gone. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:56, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

about Cartography[edit]

Hi. I'm an academic cartographer and think that the content does not reflect today's cartography well. I recommend deleting historical map since there is a relevant section if it is needed. If you can look at the International Cartographic Association (ICA) pages (www.icaci.org), it will be more meaningful why changes are needed. Classic cartography does not only deal with map-making but also map use. Today map-making has been replaced with building a geodatabase, from which maps can be derived and map use is main part of spatial analysis. For these reasons, I recommend using the definition of cartography adopted by ICA (http://icaci.org/mission/). So, some parts in the definition is similiar to second sentence. So, I recommend deleting this sentence to prevent repetition. Research areas or challenges of modern cartography that I add largely corresponds to ICA research agenda and the studies of ICA Commissions. I have also deleted the link to a music album titled "cartographer" which I think it is not related to the scientific content. I hope this explanation is enough about changes. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.185.7.90 (talk) 22:37, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

The reason for the mention of the music album is that Cartographer redirects to Cartography, so a reader arriving there needs to know that if he arrives there when he was looking for the album he needs to go to Cartographer (album). Even if you are an expert in the subject, you still need to abide by Wikipedia's conventions. As for your other proposed changes, at the very least you need to explain with an edit summary the reason for a change, and support any new material with references to reliable sources to ensure verifiability. Do not rely on your own knowledge, as that counts as WP:original research. As in some cases your edits have been tried previously and reverted you should not repeat the edit, but instead you should suggest the changes at Talk:Cartography and explain the reasons there and wait for a consensus to be established there. - David Biddulph (talk) 22:55, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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So if you are from Harrow, and you like rowing...[edit]

Does that mean you particularly like "harrowing"? bd2412 T 22:22, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

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Royal Navy[edit]

Hello, I could use your input at the Royal Navy talk page. Some editors are trying to remove any mention of the Royal Navy being a blue-water navy or a global force. Thanks and I hope you get this in time!Osama is Obama (talk) 17:04, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

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Signature[edit]

Thank you for pointing out the problem with my signature and sorry for the confusion caused. I've now unchecked a box on my preferences that was rendering me unlinked. All fixed now as you can see. Libby norman (talk) 09:04, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

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Re: White noise's noteability[edit]

noteability is hard to get for the article since i am confined to only my school computer for editing. meaning i can not just simply go on twitter or any other social media other then milkstone studios in the google search engine, i am trying my best to keep this article up as possible since this is kind of a good game but keeping with noteability is not easy if your just one user doing the whole article for the remainder of school. i hope i am not coming out harsh i get scared easily when favorite game of mines is put on a deathwatch with other users suspecting me to meet the deadline i can't do this alone T^T --Indienews (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

If you're not sure that you've yet found enough reliable sources to demonstrate the notability of a subject, it is safest not to rush to publish the article. If your time is limited, it would be better for you to develop the draft article as a sub-page in your user space, and then publish it when it is ready. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:00, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

fine, but you can teach me how to understand noteability with my article it sounds hard but its easy the problem is i can not wrap my head around it. Who made it, when it was made, how was it made, is it popular im lucky to write down a few paragraphs let alone convice the world...what am i doing wrong here and also i will be taking a break from wikipedia since it's good friday in the USA so i might not be able to controle the article when im gone.--Indienews (talk) 18:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

You presumably haven't read the links which I provided regarding notability and reliable sources. When you have done so, you'll understand the situation better. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Kew Railway Bridge[edit]

Hi David You've suggested an alternative title – Strand on the Green Bridge – but do you have a citation please for it being called by this name? Headhitter (talk) 12:49, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=519398&y=177765&z=110&sv=Strand-on-the-Green&st=6&tl=Map+of+Strand+On+The+Green,+London,+W_4&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/44575066
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=WCT18860906.2.20
http://www.flickr.com/photos/stephenpoole/8351278086/
and various others at https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLG,GGLG:2009-07,GGLG:en&q=%22Strand+on+the+Green+bridge
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Deletion of article Kan Pesum Vaarthaigal[edit]

I've replied on my talk Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:31, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Steve stephens[edit]

submitted by Sandra Hubbard 72.204.7.142 (talk) 14:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Changes to Steve Stephens[edit]

please review the submission and include if the changes qualify. If not, please advise us how to do that. Thank you, S Hubbard — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.7.142 (talk) 14:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

It's not for me to decide whether the changes qualify or not. If you're the same editor involved in earlier discussions, you've seen links to the advice regarding copyright violation and close paraphrasing. Other editors will make a judgement accordingly, as will the holders of any copyright. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:47, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I will add that the subject of an article is usually not the right person to write about themselves, as they are rarely able to do so dispassionately with a neutral point of view. That is why Wikipedia has its guidance on conflict of interest. Asking someone else to submit the material on their behalf doesn't really resolve those issues. Steve has also included no references to published reliable source to support the statements he sent to you. I will therefore step back from what I said in my reply above, and tell you that what he proposed would not be acceptable, as it stands, for Wikipedia, regardless of whether or not it would be a copyright violation. - David Biddulph (talk) 15:58, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Oswestry School[edit]

Keen not to ignite another 'Editing War', do you feel that the following is a fair representation of current events?:

"In March 2013, the Headmaster announced that he had commissioned an 'inspection' to consider the future of Bellan House as a Prep School. One of the options currently being considered is to move the existing prep school up to the Senior School site and turn the existing Bellan House building into a sixth form centre."

Alphaceo (talk) 12:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

May be better to say nothing until there are published reliable sources to back it up, or until decisions are made, but that looks a lot closer to what the HM's letter apparently said than what was in the previous updates. Perhaps the best is to put something on the article's talk page to point readers in the direction of the current situation and to explain the outcome of the previous edit war, but to leave the article alone for now. I hope that you will apologise to those whom you have misled and to those whom you have wrongly accused of vandalism. You were lucky not to have been blocked for edit-warring. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:55, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
But I see that you have asked the same question on your user talk page, so hopefully other interested parties will respond there. My only interest in the first place was to stop the stupid edit war. - David Biddulph (talk) 12:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks David, and agreement reached with DanielCooling OSICT and I think all sorted now Alphaceo (talk) 13:16, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for undoing the bizarre 'Jonathan' edits, I too had been undoing them but didn't want to fall foul of the 3 strike thingamebob rule! An ex-member of staff who left very suddenly was called Jonathan so I suspect that's where they think it comes from. I know it didn't start well (my involvement, that is) but ANY attempt at deviating from the 'party line' seems to set the spin/hate/damage limitation machine into overdrive hence, I suspect, the 'Jonathan' nonsense. Alphaceo (talk) 12:32, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your assistance![edit]

Thank you for the information and insight David! I will make sure to look at those pages! Miguemely (talk) 00:50, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

One question, I just redid the page and made sure it's working and has references to what I am doing. Is it fine how it is or am I missing something? Miguemely (talk) 01:03, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Request for uninvolved 3rd party to comment.[edit]

Hello. I am requesting your opinions at Talk:Thomas Savage (died 1611)#Move and add to Thomas Savage as a third party to a discussion which I feel is nearing an impasse. I feel confident that if you chose to participate, your comments ideas and suggestions will be neutral and non-biased in favor or against either of the currently involved participants. If you do not wish to participate, I understand and respect your wishes. Thank you. Technical 13 (talk) 19:42, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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Notifications box replacement prototypes released[edit]

Hey David Biddulph; Kaldari has finished scripting a set of potential replacements available to test and give feedback on. Please go to this thread for more detail on how to enable them. Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 14:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Allrounder[edit]

Was just reviewing the edits there as I thought they might be vandalism, but they seem like good edits so I reinstated them. I am assuming you were there for the same reason I was. If you disagree feel free to re-revert. AIRcorn (talk) 11:59, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

Where do you see the problem? Ashbeckjonathan 18:49, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

In your message here, as a good example. No links. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:59, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
In case you missed it, the relevant part of WP:SIG is at Wikipedia:Signatures#Links. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:31, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Retirement[edit]

Just to let you know, because I am really having a rough time on Wikipedia, I am considered for retirement starting today until I feel like coming back whenever I am ready. Ashbeckjonathan 21:24, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully when you come back you'll sort out your signature problem. If in doubt, set the relevant part of your preferences back to their default settings. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:34, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Page problems - International Committee on Systematics of Prokaryotes[edit]

Hello David,

Considering I am fairly new to the system, I have benefitted greatly from your comments, particularly about the copyright laws on Wikipedia. I have scanned a lot of pages and found that some articles tend to regurgitate a lot of content from other online resources, so I thought this was an integral part of wikipedia's programme. Given that I am unfamiliar with bacteriology or prokaryotes, I decided to use a lot of the material from their own site. I understand that there may be a conflict of interest here, but I assure you that I am not part of this committee and am not representing them in any way.

In response to your qualms about independent references, what if the committee's website is the best authority on the subject? The content on the site is not exactly promotional and merely offers a overview of the committee and the responsibilities they have. The site gives the best summary and definition relating to the committee so why can't it be included in the references?

Just wanted to run this past you so that I can improve as a wikieditor and create the most reliable content for future articles.

Thankyou for your comments, I am always eager to get involved in any talk discussions.

Binko

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Trashed infobox is VE bug[edit]

Hi David. I saw this edit of yours and realized I had been involved in something similar here. It looks like Visual Editor has been causing this damage - it is discussed here and there's a link to a bug (which is itself linked to another bug and so on). Unless it is already fixed I suspect we may be seeing a few more of these. The editor concerned has probably only tried to make some small change to the box but as you saw it has had a spectacular effect ... I guess the best advice we can give, unless/until it's fixed, is to avoid VE for infoboxes. Hope this helps, best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:13, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

IP[edit]

I think User talk:92.21.209.26 is having trouble with the VisualEditor, which copes poorly with template. I'll remove the scary warnings and leave a message. Jamesx12345 (talk) 19:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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IAAF World Championships in Athletics/ Great Britain[edit]

No rules to specify the full official names of countries in that table! Otherwise you must write: United States of America, Russian Federation, People Republic of China, France Republic etc. What about it? IkariSindzi (talk) 09:48, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

"Great Britain and N.I." is what has been the accepted entry in that table for some time; I see no reason to change it now without discussion and agreement. David Biddulph (talk) 11:00, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

The Radicalization Watch Project[edit]

I am one of the researchers in the Radicalization Watch Project and I would like to edit the page of this project in order to update it. Could you please remove the protection so that I can update it. Thanks for assistance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmo07518 (talkcontribs) 08:12, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

There isn't such a page. Radicalization Watch Project was deleted in 2010. If it did exist, and was protected, that would have been because too much damage had been done previously by non-auto-confirmed editors, and a case would have to be made to the administrators to remove the protection. See Wikipedia:Protection policy. I am not an administrator. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:25, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

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I am sorry if i did something wrong. Please put it back the way it was — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chanthujohnson (talkcontribs) 15:10, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Typo?[edit]

Hi, David. In your answer at Wikipedia:Help desk#John grant (footballer) you said that an editor does need the other editor's permission to edit the article. Did you mean to say "does NOT need"? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:59, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely right, Anne. Corrected now. Thanks for pointing it out. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:07, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.[edit]

Hey Dave. Just wanted to drop a note saying that I appreciate your vigilance over the Teahouse lately as well as the quality and straight-forwardness of your responses. That, and whenever I see a new question, you usually beat me to it! I, Jethrobot drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 15:53, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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No, I haven't, and your signature is still wrong. - David Biddulph (talk) 00:53, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Then there is nothing I can do to fix it; that was the way it was when I first joined Wikipedia. There you have it; I will not respond again. Ashbeckjonathan 00:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I got it working; sorry my behavior. Ashbeckjonathan (talk) 01:02, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
Yes, that's working now. Well done! - David Biddulph (talk) 01:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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You'll Never Walk Alone[edit]

Shirley Jones is notable for singing this song in the 1956 hit film Carousel as well as on the hit soundtrack. Caden cool 20:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Can you explain to me why you reverted my edit?? Caden cool 21:09, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm still waiting for an explanation from you. Caden cool 02:52, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
Your subsequent change makes it much clearer, so I'm happy with that. The argument from Contributions/Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars looked convincing at first glance with the previous wording. - David Biddulph (talk) 03:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Question[edit]

David, concerning my article, [3] , I could not find a "Talk" page for it. Has a "Talk" page been created for it, although it has not yet been posted as an article on Wikipedia?

Second question, is it still required of me to add the template {{OTRS pending}} on that "Talk" page (if it exists)?

What now must I do to have my article published on Wikipedia? Davidbena (talk) 13:50, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not a copyright expert. If you look at Wikipedia:Copyrights there are links to numerous pages with more detail, & some will hopefully give you an idea of where you can get information from the experts.
To link (within Wikipedia) to a Wikipedia page, in general you shouldn't use an internet url like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Davidbena/sandbox/Yemenite_Ketubba, but instead you can use a wikilink like [[User:Davidbena/sandbox/Yemenite Ketubba]], which will display as User:Davidbena/sandbox/Yemenite Ketubba. At the top of that page you should see a redlink labelled "Talk", and if you click on that it will allow you to start a talk page.
If you are convinced that you want your draft reviewed in its current state, you can put {{subst:submit}} at the top of it, and that will then submit it to the article for creation review process. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:10, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
Note also that if you wish to refer to a template, rather than apply it to the page on whih you wish to include the mention, you can either surround the template name with <nowiki>...</nowiki> tags, as <nowiki>{{OTRS pending}}</nowiki> (which I did in your question above to remove this talk page from the categories into which the template had put it), or use {{tl|OTRS pending}} which renders as {{OTRS pending}}. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:17, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, David. Your answers have been greatly helpful! God bless! Davidbena (talk) 15:09, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for prompt help[edit]

Thanks[edit]

...for helping roll back the latest spree from the Philippines IP vandal. DMacks (talk) 14:09, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

And thanks to you for spotting the one where I got confused with another IP editing among the edits from the one in question. Worrying that this went on for so long, and so profusely, before it was spotted. I guess that some of those pages aren't very widely watched. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
I watchlist a few of the common targets but sometimes they hit a lot of others before getting to that tripwire:( I think I've curtailed it for the next little while... DMacks (talk) 14:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


just a liitle ?? on my article[edit]

i saw you deleted the link at the top, my mistake, but since you were into the article twice, thougth you might have some ideas on how to have it accepted.

I am the only one to ever truly document the hisotic center of quito, and in the end will have it all mapped out and on wikipedia Someone who did not accept it mentioned that my submission does not appear to be written in the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article. Can you give me some suggestions, what do you think can be made better? What about the neutral point of view? Ideas? There are referenced sources, are there not enough?? I would like to re-write and have it accepted but would like to know how..

if you can give a hand great... Thanks so much and have a great day!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/David_Adam_Kess — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.10.168.96 (talk) 21:41, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Leave someone else to write an article at some stage in the future if they believe that the subject is notable. See WP:COI and WP:Autobiography. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:51, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Navigation WC 2013 article[edit]

In all the other WC articles that header [4] is used to navigate between different championships. If you remove it in the 2013 version, or choose not to use it, then it should be removed in all the others. Pretty is not always better than functional. 72.33.83.56 (talk) 21:46, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

Adding a Photo to an Existing Article[edit]

I have a good friend, Dr. Aviva Klein Franke of Cologne University in Germany, who has travelled to Yemen and photographed a picture of a stone inscription showing a partial list of the names of the priestly wards. Since the photograph is relevant to an article on Wikipedia called "Kohen," she has agreed to have this photograph uploaded to that Wikipedia article ("Kohen"). What must she do to verify that the photo is hers and that she gives her consent to upload it to Wikipedia? Davidbena (talk) 22:06, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

WP:Donating copyrighted material. - David Biddulph (talk) 04:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXXX, September 2013[edit]

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thank you[edit]

for the information at the help desk you just gave me! GMarin 12:28, 26 September 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lrh246 (talkcontribs)

Talkback[edit]

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Nice catch on the cut-and-paste move at Gwendolyn Galsworth (I didn't even check!) and your helpful response.
I, JethroBT drop me a line 17:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


Talk:River Thames Summary[edit]

Hi, Thanks for that feedback. I agree with the point about the London Boroughs now being used to define the London area. But that part of the Thames referred to as "The London Stretch" in this article is entirely tidal- even if does not cover all of London. Its important to make this distinction for several reasons including, the type of water it contains ( salt versus fresh), the navigation rules and the governing body, to name but three.1stcanalman (talk) 10:24, 3 October 2013 (UTC)1stcanalman

There are obviously numerous ways in which "London" could be interpreted (and are interpreted in this & various other articles, including that on London itself). I was using London in the sense defined in the map in the infobox, and in most of the references to London in the article which cover an area much bigger than the City of London. I agree that for a variety of purposes the tidal boundary (or the PLA's jurisdiction boundary which is very close thereto) is a relevant subdivision, and of course we have sections within the article on The tidal section and on The tidal river, and a separate article on the Tideway. It would, however, be misleading to say "Its tidal section includes all of its London stretch" without making it clear that "London" is here being used in a different sense to that in which it is used elsewhere in the article, and of course to define the "London stretch" as being the tidal stretch would be a circular argument in this sentence. - David Biddulph (talk) 11:10, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Hi, apologies, that is perfectly clear and a valid reasoning that is not enough to change any minds. It is wrong to describe this section as anything but tidal and worse to make this error on the back of another i.e. the incomplete definition of London. 1stcanalman (talk) 11:39, 9 October 2013 (UTC)1stcanalman

apologies to Paul Ashwood[edit]

Hi. Am new to Wikipedia and out of curtsy added my ideas to an article - to remove brackets and use less unnecessary information. This has been reverted and the new article has taken all my ideas on board. #strange. #Carolbragger (talk) 10:45, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

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The autoblock should be cleared now.Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)


I see that the block on J2R was in November 2009, so it's interesting if this IP address was recently used by J2R - David Biddulph (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Very odd, though I have seen the occasional autoblock hiccup such as this. Let me know if you're still having issues. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 17:25, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I'm now at home, on a different computer with a different IP. I'll have a look again tomorrow when I'm back on the previous network, but I guess that by then it may well have allocated a different IP anyway. Thanks again. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:54, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

English unit inter-language links[edit]

Hi David,

Please undo your reinstatement of inter-language links.

Before you do so , please follow the German link de:Angloamerikanisches Maßsystem. You will see that it links to English language article Imperial and US customary measurement systems. Please note that Anglo-American system of units also links to this English-language article. If you read through the German article, you will see that the text "(UK)" and "(US)" occurs a number of times. You might wish to double-check this on other language articles. The French and Dutch articles certainly refer to "Anglo-American" rather than the pre-1824 "English" units. Martinvl (talk) 07:48, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

If you were removing the links because you believed that they were inappropriate links, that would have been something that you could have said in your edit summary. You edit summary, hoever, said "Inter-language links are handled centrally", whhich gave the impression that that you were removing them because identical links already existed in Wikidata. You will be aware that there are many cases where Wikidata doesn't fully handle the links, particularly where there isn't a one-to-one correspondence between articles in one language and those in another. If you wish to remove one or more of the links which other editors have added, I suggest that you explain why you believe them to be inappropriate, either in the edit summary or on the article talk page. - David Biddulph (talk) 10:57, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
If you look at items 27 and 28 of the Wikidata FAQ page you will see that they expect links to follow a one-to-one correspondence. I agree that this is not totally satisfactory, but the way to sort it out is through Wikidata, not by adding items to this page. Martinvl (talk) 12:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes, Wikidata can only deal with one-to-one correspondence at present, so unless & until Wikidata changes (and I'm not holding my breath), the extra links are provided locally. Help:Interlanguage links#Adding a new link says:
"Unfortunately, there is no mechanism in Wikidata at present for linking articles which are related, but different in scope; it is possible to do it with local links."
Help:Interlanguage links#Local links says:
"Before Wikidata, Interlanguage links had to be recorded in the text of the page itself. The problem with this approach was that each language had to maintain its own separate lists. So for example, if the name of a page on the English Wikipedia changed, then each language that linked to that page would have to separately notice this fact and then change their own links.
For most pages, these links are no longer needed and can be safely removed, but you should verify that the local list and the Wikidata lists match before doing so."
... (my emphasis on the last clause). - David Biddulph (talk) 13:22, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
OK, as long as they are one-way links only. Martinvl (talk) 15:57, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you and more help?[edit]

Hello David--Thank you for your response to my help desk posting. I've fixed the link so it refers to the database entry for the "Tom Taylor" stradivarius. You pointed out a state of confusion regarding my user talk page and user name(s). I'm not very skilled at working WP and I think that at some time in the past I had a user page titled RMcGuigan but wanted it to be Robert McGuigan and some generous person set up the redirect for me. Unfortunately it seems to have made a mess of my contributions and talk pages. I'd appreciate it if you could suggest a way to make things less confusing.

By the way, are you related to Peter Biddulph, a well-known expert on and dealer in fine violins? RMcGuigan (talk) 19:55, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Just log on to the Robert McGuigan account, instead of RMcGuigan, and edit from there. You can put a note on your Robert McGuigan user page to say that you previously edited as RMcGuigan, & then people will be able to find your previous contributions. No, as far as I'm aware I don't have any relatives in the violin business. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:08, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

ANI notice[edit]

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Whilst I did not contact you initially as you did not make a major comment at Talk:United Kingdom#Units of measure dispute., I have been accused of selectively selecting editors to notify so I am contacting everyone who took part. The discussion is WP:ANI#User:Martinvl and long term disruption of WT:MOSNUM. Apologies in advance, if like me you don't really have a strong opinion on the matter. Wee Curry Monster talk 17:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Deletion from teahouse[edit]

First of all thankz for your help mate and i appreciate it but i want to say this and I am sorry the answer seems a bit insulting to me, Its like saying I can't count. That's why I did it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rameshnta909 (talkcontribs) 17:38, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

It's sometimes difficult to work out times of day, and answers to previous questions will often save other users from having to ask the same question so that's why they stay and are then archived. While you're here, another editor has pointed out that you deleted a message that you had posted to Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2013 October 18. I see that you have updated the file details today to confirm that you are not the copyright holder, so the file will presumably be deleted in due course. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:48, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCI, October 2013[edit]

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Notability[edit]

Do YOU have any? Dina Rubina wrote tens of books and I must demonstrate her notability to bots and jerks? Go and work for improving articles and your template you can place on your forehead bec. YOU have NO notability.--N94228 (talk) 14:38, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, her notability must be demonstrated. Read WP:N & WP:V. - David Biddulph (talk) 14:49, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
  • There is list of works. Demonstrate YOUR OWN notability. I am waiting--N94228 (talk) 15:05, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

N94228[edit]

He or she apparently thinks that he or she is a WP:DIVA and that the threat to leave Wikipedia will cause the article to be left standing. My own guess is that the author is notable, and that the OP should ask for assistance in finding reliable sources rather than making idle threats to leave Wikipedia and idle accusations of vandalism. My own guess also is that the OP will eventually be blocked, and no one else will care, and the article should not be speedy-deleted, but that an AFD challenge to find a reliable source is in order and is likely to get the article fixed. Bye bye N94228. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:48, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you![edit]

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apology[edit]

I am sorry for having inadvertently deleted your answer at the help desk during an edit conflict. I thought I had carefully preserved all prior text, but I must have been in error. Sorry. DES (talk) 21:22, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure it wasn't your fault. I have got caught that way in the past, with an edit conflict that the software didn't tell me about. - David Biddulph (talk) 21:25, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for the code Herald talk with me 13:27, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Sorry[edit]

The Template I made was supposed to be a test, i don't know what i was doing. Sorry. Today's Xtra (talk) 19:13, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

If you want to do tests, you can do that in your sandbox, or in another subpage in your user space. We realize that you've only got a day or so's editing experience and fewer than 200 edits so you've still got a lot to learn. That is why you shouldn't yet be thinking that you can help other users in roles such as Teahouse host, AFC reviewer, or as an adopter. Your first step is to learn for yourself how Wikipedia works. Study the various guidelines and get practice in how to do make edits yourself. When you've built up some experience, then you can start to think about trying to advise others. - David Biddulph (talk) 19:57, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Help with article @evleaks[edit]

@evleaks was submitted and is continued to be edited by Cclewandowski who is an intern at @evleaks (as admitted here: https://twitter.com/CCLewandowski). A NPOV tag was applied to this in October which the user in question, Cclewandowski, decided to remove. Any assistance would be appreciated Binarypower (talk) 03:50, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCII, November 2013[edit]

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Douglas Lee[edit]

I'll dig out a source for you showing the link in a few hours when I have more time if that's OK; as for the page itself, why don't we make Douglas Lee into a disambiguation page, with Douglas Lee (restauranteur) redirecting to the Steak House? GiantSnowman 16:37, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've made a first stab at changing from the redirect to a dab page. It can doubtless be improved. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:50, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

Matt Edwards' Draft Article Progressive Automations[edit]

Hi David: My article talks about various sponsorships. Do all these sponsorships need to be independently verifiable? At least one of the sponsees refers to the company in a YouTube video, but WP has stated that these videos are not usable as references. Cheers Matt19811981 (talk) 18:39, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

You need to read about verifiability, reliable sources, and referencing. - David Biddulph (talk) 18:43, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

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Herald talk with me 12:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

9th Earl of Eglinton[edit]

Replied on my page Kittybrewster 12:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Helen Arbuthnot[edit]

I came across this fully abled cox who was in the Paralympics Irish team last year. Can you please tell me why she was eligible? Kittybrewster 12:42, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Coxes in Para-rowing events are not required to be disabled. Most are fully able, such as Lily van den Broecke in the 2012 GB crew, & her predecessor Alan Sherman at the previous Paralympics & various World Champs. The relevant item in the current FISA rules is in Appendix 13 to the rule book, at http://original.worldrowing.com/files/download/9652 . - David Biddulph (talk) 12:52, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
thank you. Kittybrewster 13:22, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

John Buchan Ross[edit]

Thanks for your edit. I have introduced a link to the page. If you could please review it again, as and when you have time, I would be much obliged. Thanks.Gomach (talk) 16:59, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

I've already removed the orphan tag. I'll leave the formal reviewing to someone more familiar with the bureaucracies of the formal review process. - David Biddulph (talk) 17:01, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCIII, December 2013[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Sir, thank you so much for giving me correct information and guiding me in the right direction. Forthesakeofmusic 13:31, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Talk:International Lyme And Associated Diseases Society[edit]

Talk:International Lyme And Associated Diseases Society

David, you asked the location of the discussion. I have 3 editors helping me, and I am asking if this group is a fringe group or a significant minority opinion group. I am advocating for the latter, but am still trying to understand the rules. It is wonderful how you can get people to work through a question like this with an open mind if you bring data, and it helps me understand how Wikipedia stays consistent through these kinds of consensus decisions.

Thanks for you interest and willing to help someone new. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob the goodwin (talkcontribs) 06:29, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you![edit]

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MarianoRivero[edit]

he has been constantly spamming and editing some articles and is already vandalizing some articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.83.57.125 (talk) 08:24, 5 January 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.207.248.114 (talk)

112.207.248.114[edit]

he has been constantly spamming and editing some articles and is already vandalizing some articles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.207.248.114 (talk) 09:59, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

IP autoblock[edit]

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Should be cleared now. Mr.Z-man 18:03, 7 January 2014 (UTC)


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Weird; sorry about that. Nyttend (talk) 22:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCIV, January 2014[edit]

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Sig[edit]

Ya, every once in a while I forget to link my talk in. My film crew was nominated for a Oscar and its been real busy around here. Sorry: WPPilot 17:25, 16 January 2014 (UTC) (talk)

Best of luck on Oscar night then. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Sir,

Could you please tidy up the references for James Martineau page and the Philpi greenhow Martineau page Thanks - I am not good at thois! Cheers Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.144.168.82 (talk) 04:49, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Hi David,

on December, 27 I edited the Wikipedia articles Software Engineer and Software Engineering, and you reversed my changes 2 hours later, giving "rv unsourced commentary" as the reason.

The changes I entered described the situation that software engineers are not able yet to measure the materials they work on, i.e. the knowledge going into their software and the knowledge represented by the software they write.

Could you please let me know what you think would be the right way to add this information to Wikipedia?

Kind Regards Martin Rösch Martin Rösch (talk) 20:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

See my reply at Talk:Software engineer#Lack of Measurability. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:01, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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For being kind at Help desk! Thank you! Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 22:13, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you![edit]

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Thanks[edit]

Thanks for help on my user page;) you seem to get a lot of thanks. You're quite helpful just like an engineer. Note to all: to automatically go to another "Thanks" section on this here page just type _2 or _3 or _4 etc at the end of the url. or we could use different names for each section, like "thanks" then "thanks!", etc.--78.156.109.166 (talk) 20:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

You removed my edit at the Help Desk[edit]

What was the reason for this edit, please? Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 09:28, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Looks like another case of the software not reporting an edit conflict. Certainly not intentional, I assure you. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:24, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
I thought that had been fixed. I didn't think it was intentional. Thanks for the explanation. Dismas|(talk) 13:35, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Thank you so much for your generosity!

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Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Spore (agricultural publication)[edit]

Hi David. I posted comments on this on the Teahouse and should be grateful if you could take a look. I really feel that this is a notable publication (I've been reading it for 25 years) and that it merits an article without further delay. Thanks Roundtheworld (talk) 08:53, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Refs[edit]

Could you please check the refs for Arnolfd Lupotn page and Martineau family page Thanks M.E.Reed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.147.212.61 (talk) 10:42, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Re help desk[edit]

Re my query about earlier versions of Wiki articles (see help desk)

Thanks, David, for your prompt reply. No, you didn't misunderstand my query and I have found what I was after. I am not sure if I should be posting this reply here or on the help desk, but here goes. My question concerned my first foray into Wiki editing and there was a lot to wade through on the site about editing/help desks, and I cannot think why I didn't do the obvious and click on "History" as you suggested. I think it was a case of not being able to see the wood for the trees! Many thanks.

PS For some reason I can't make the heading here show up in the right way, sorry! P123cat1 (talk) 13:12, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

If you want to add a section heading ahead of your text, either use the "New section" button to add the section, or precede your text with
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as the equal signs delineate the heading. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:28, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

Re help desk (2)[edit]

I get it. Tx! –P123cat1 (talk) 14:17, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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Hi I answered your question(I hope it is a valid answer though, correct me if I am wrong, thanks!) Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa123|UPage| (talk) 04:56, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Lakester#RFC[edit]

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Lakester#RFC. I have a message in the talk page. Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa123|UPage|☺★ (talk) 14:12, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Odinsburgh14[edit]

Blocked as a sockpuppet, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Moutray2010. Dougweller (talk) 09:03, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

Now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Former user 20140220/Archive. Dougweller (talk) 16:33, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCV, February 2014[edit]

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Changing username[edit]

How can I change my username? (Blackspears (talk) 03:37, 27 February 2014 (UTC))

In the message which I left on your user talk page, WP:CORPNAME is in blue, meaning that it is a wikilink to a document which you should read. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Pending changes screwup[edit]

For some reason, even though you are a reviewer, your last revert on recycling was marked as "pending" but there was no place to accept your change (probably because you are a reviewer). Then when I displayed all pending changes to the article, it showed you as adding the offending material you tried to revert. So I reverted the last 3 edits including yours.

So don't be distressed at seeing that you were reverted in the edit summary. I never liked this pending changes mechanism. It's clunky even when it works. ~Amatulić (talk) 15:39, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding Badges?[edit]

I can leave a message, here but is there another way to ping? I want to add a badge that says I live in California like you have on your page, how can I add badges? Apriv40dj (talk) 18:55, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

One of the easiest ways of finding userboxes is to look at similar ones which you like, & then looking through the relevant categories. For example my user page includes {{User HampshireCounty}}, so if you look at Template:User HampshireCounty you will see (at the foot of the page) that it is in Category:English county of residence user templates. That, in turn, is in Category:Region of residence user templates. From there you will see that there is a Category:US state of residence user templates, and in there you can choose between a number of userboxes relevant to California. Some of those have multiple options; Template:User in California, for example, has dozens of variants, and you could choose the one which you prefer. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

I am not getting any notification's from my tea house replies. Every morning I expected to see a bunch of replies and get nothing. I did not know you had posted this, but just now I got three notification of radioactive carbon dating or global warming or some other question that is not my question and I took no part in the discussion. Then I had to go and find this post that was archived or I would have missed it entirely. But, I did save that information, I just wonder if take the html of a badge is that stealing a badge and will that person mind? If I see a badge on tennis and want to take and add to my page how will I know if the user will get mad at me for doing that? Some people don't mind and some will get very upset. I will try to add that easy badge for California as a start that is listed above. Apriv40dj (talk) 02:19, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

If you ask a question on a page, it is wise to keep that page on your watchlist so that you can keep an eye open for replies. As far as userboxes are concerned, the files in the Templates: namespace are there to be used. If someone has produced a userbox in their own user space you can still link to it, though they might subsequently delete it from their userspace so the link from your page would then fail. If you are talking of taking someone else's userbox code and using that to develop a different userbox, that would still be permitted, but you ought to include a comment to credit them for the code you are using. In general it is less confusing if you use Wikipedia's terminology to refer to things; Wikipedia calls the "userboxes", not "badges". - David Biddulph (talk) 02:54, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Many thanks for adding to a previous message in the Teahouse and helping me move my very first Wiki page so that it became a fully fledged article. I feel at home already. Meailleurs (talk) 11:58, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Type 45[edit]

David, Thank you for spotting the mistake I made by not linking the actual document. It seems to me that the user who reverted my edit even after I reached out to them could have as easily pointed out my error rather than revert. Thanks again Mark83 (talk) 01:42, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Putitdownsorawww (talk) 02:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)== Emomalii Rahmon (we should change the first name) ==

Hi, i saw that you removed the correction of my correction of the first name of the president on the tajikistan page. I also saw your note about Emomalii Rahmon. I beleive we should change that to Emomali Rahmon (only 1 i) as per the official biography on http://president.tj/en/taxonomy/term/5/21 or http://president.tj/en/ (then scroll down and click biography). I'm not a major wikipedia editor and don't know how to do this. can you assist?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Putitdownsorawww (talkcontribs) 02:12, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

There was lengthy discussion at Talk:Emomalii Rahmon in 2007. If you are convinced that the ii version is wrong, having read the previous discussion, you might raise it again there. I took the liberty of changing the URLs in your message to wikilinks. --David Biddulph (talk) 02:24, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay, i'll take a look at all this, and no worries for the URLs. Thank you. Putitdownsorawww (talk) 02:34, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your Adminship! Sakib14 (talk) 09:44, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Not me! --David Biddulph (talk) 09:46, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks once again for saving my page! Sakib14 (talk) 10:25, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks[edit]

Thanks David, for your help, I will try to fix the problem at my Preferences
Aftab Banoori (talk) 11:10, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for contributing[edit]

Dear David, I wanted to thank you for helping me with on my Tilmann's Wröbel page. I frequently improving the page thanks to contributors'advices. I just wanted to know if you can please check the updates on the page because I wish to remove the contributors warning.. Please let me know ! Thanks in advance and thank you again for your help! --V-fire (talk) 09:37, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

A good starting point would be for you to read the Wikipedia:Manual of Style. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:27, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Meon Valley Railway[edit]

What is going on with the Meon Valley is not at present to be put in the public domain. However, this does NOT mean the group is defunct - FAR from it! The statement about it having disbanded is and always was completely erroneous and, if allowed to remain, would risk significant damage to the project. I will remove it one last time and I request that no attempt is made to reinstate it. 82.3.254.47 (talk) 03:01, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for the many, many helpful comments you've made at the at the Teahouse. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:48, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVI, March 2014[edit]

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Thanks[edit]

Thanks for putting right my sloppy edit to National Front. I'm using a creaking lap top with finger pad rather than mouse, lousy broadband connection, everything keeps freezing and I clearly have been too frustrated/lazy to check what I do before hitting Save. Ain't computers fun!? Emeraude (talk) 16:54, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Thank you for the info you've provided on my talk page! I'm working on fixing the citations right now. It looks like I had forgotten how to add them in properly. Thanks again!Cosettej (talk) 16:28, 15 April 2014 (UTC) Thanks for the additional help with my citations. Those group tags were driving me crazy! I think I've got the citations where they need to be now, but I could be wrong. Please let me know if you have any additional suggestions/corrections, and I'll be sure to implement them. Thanks again! Cosettej (talk) 17:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:The "good guy"/List of AT&T U-verse channels listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:The "good guy"/List of AT&T U-verse channels. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:The "good guy"/List of AT&T U-verse channels redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Steel1943 (talk) 05:01, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing it out. As you've seen, I've now changed the destination of the redirect. I was going to put a clarifying comment on the RFD, but I see that you've already dealt with it; thanks. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:42, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for resolving it; with that redirect fixed, I noticed that was the same issue with the others as well, and was able to fix them. Steel1943 (talk) 05:46, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Is my subject notable enough to be included.[edit]

Dea David,

Thank you so much for sending me an email and, hopefully, putting me on the correct track. I have wanted to thank ColinFine and Vchimpanzee for their replies. Now , perhaps I will be able to do so. I can but try.

Many thanks again, KeithKeithhmorris (talk) 19:59, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Reimagining Mentorship proposal[edit]

Hi David. I know you spend a good deal of time helping new editors, so I wanted to bring your attention to a grant proposal under review. A small team of us want to implement a system of mentorship that focuses on the specific skills new editors want to learn and incorporates the 1-on-1 relationships from the adopt-a-user programs. Please read over our proposal here. At this stage, your feedback would be much appreciated, particularly as you work with new editors on a regular basis, and we want to make our proposal fit the community's needs. You can leave comments on the grant talk page, and if you like the proposal, please feel free to add your endorsement at the bottom of the page.

In addition, we are gathering information and attitudes from experienced editors on the current ways new editors can get help. If you are interested, please consider taking our brief survey here. Thanks very much, I, JethroBT drop me a line 05:45, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVII, April 2014[edit]

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Help[edit]

I wandered into the article Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Neubauer Family Collegium for Culture and Society this morning and I feel the way Alice musht have feld after she walked throught hte lookign glass. I went back to add some more info, and I cannot seem to access the page to add more sources. I see that you name is on the page as it now stands. I see that the article is being continuously denied, although it has many reliable sources, not only local papers like the The Chicago maroon but national ones like The Chronicle of Philanthropy and http://www.universitybusiness.com/

Can you explain what is going on here? To me notability does not seem to be in question. To the extent that it is written "like an advertisement", that can surely be quickly corrected. To me, this feels like a confusing and unfriendly process. A.Jacobin — Preceding unsigned comment added by A.Jacobin (talkcontribs) 18:25, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the content. All I did was restore the previous feedback which had been deleted. That stays to help reviewers and those trying to improve the draft, & to allow resubmission when ready. The feedback templates will be removed if and when the draft is accepted for publication. I can't see anything stopping anyone from making further edits; the page is not protected. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:39, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
I now see that you have done a cut-and-paste move of the page to Neubauer Family Collegium for Culture and Society. This is not permitted because of the legal requirement to preserve the attribution of the content, so I have tagged the article accordingly. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Weapons Law Encyclopaedia[edit]

Hi, You just deleted my page Weapons Law Encyclopaedia on Copyrights issues. I however have the authorization of the company to take their content. Shoudl I change the text a bit? Also, to do so could I retrieve the content I had inserted, because it did take me some time to make.

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatiana155 (talkcontribs) 23:15, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

I didn't delete it; it was deleted by an administrator because Wikipedia cannot publish copyrighted material without an appropriate licence. You had been warned earlier in the day about the use of copyrighted material. The message on your user talk page explains the process by which a copyright owner can donate copyrighted material, and in his reply to you Discospinster explains that you can find the material again on the web pages from which you copied it. You do, however, need to write things in your own words, because an organization's web page is usually written in promotional language, not in the neutral point of view which Wikipedia requires. One of the replies to your original help desk message gave an example of such unacceptable language, and another reply reminded you of the need to base the article on references to coverage of the subject in published reliable sources independent of the subject; at first glance most of the mentions of the Weapons Law Encyclopaedia that I can find are based on press releases for the project launch, so would not be acceptable. I have put some further useful links on your user talk page, including to WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:32, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Draft submission[edit]

I have successfully resubmitted my draft and it says Review waiting. I sincerely appreciate your time and effort to help me. Thank you. Madhuravp (talk) 16:36, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

I see that you didn't take my advice about looking at the references. Although you may be lucky and get the draft accepted, in general you will probably find that reviewers will be quicker to review drafts with proper inline citation, so you may find yourself waiting for a month or two, and at that stage they may reject it and ask you to reference it properly. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:44, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

My CLA Template[edit]

Thank you, David. I had noticed that issue, but I hadn't yet gotten around to addressing it. You saved me some trouble. Taxman1913 (talk) 17:15, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Triple Crown[edit]

If you read further than the lead paragraph of the Triple Crown of Motorsport article you will see that both definitions are covered, and that sources mentioning Graham Hill use the older, World Championship, version. Ian Dalziel (talk) 22:31, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCVIII, May 2014[edit]

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Quick note about your Teahouse answers[edit]

Hi,

I notice that you've been answering questions at the teahouse for several months. Many of your answers are good, but there are a few that are unhelpful to the OPs. For instance, in this thread, you just provided a bare policy link. Teahouse etiquette generally encourages attempting to explain the answers to people's questions instead of pointing them to a complex and sometimes lengthy page to read through. This is especially important since most guests at the teahouse are newbies. You've also often just left {{welcome}} on the talk pages of guests, which isn't really a way to answer people's questions. Again, most of your answers are okay, and I'm just providing you a few pointers to help you contribute even better there. --Jakob (talk) 17:15, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Happy to let you answer in the way in which you prefer. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:01, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue XCIX, June 2014[edit]

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The Bugle: Issue C, July 2014[edit]

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Help Please[edit]

Hello,

Will you please address my problem I've mentioned today (July 22) here => Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asheshneupane95 (talkcontribs) 14:08, 22 July 2014‎ (UTC)

You've asked at the Help Desk. Hopefully someone will address your request in due course. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Template:2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics[edit]

There are apparently two templates with the same name. Look at the mens 100 and the women's 100. You will find the women's goes to the template you corrected, the men's does not. I can't find a fix. Tried the double article route until a solution was found. We still have two Men's 10,000 articles with and without comma due to the double templates. Trackinfo (talk) 10:33, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Both 2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics – Women's 100 metres and 2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics – Men's 100 metres point at {{2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics}}. I can't see any other template. You have both articles because you created them both, but nothing of significance now points at 2014 World Junior Championships in Athletics – Men's 10000 metres as I have removed all the relevant incoming links, so I've redirected it to the correct one. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:46, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CI, August 2014[edit]

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Speedy deletion declined: User:SanjibGanguli[edit]

Hello David Biddulph. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of User:SanjibGanguli, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not unambiguously promotional, user has other contributions. Thank you. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 17:32, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Concur with your revert; opened sockpuppet investigation[edit]

I concur with the revert you made to Portable Document Format and have opened a sock puppet investigation. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)