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Nasserist Party[edit]

Hi David, I was looking at your RM at Talk:Nasserist Party (Egypt) and couldn't quite understand what you wanted. Are the Arab Democratic Nasserist Party and the Nasserist Party different parties? If not, it's fine to have both Nasserist Party and Nasserist Party (Egypt) as redirects to Arab Democratic Nasserist Party. Thanks, BDD (talk) 16:56, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I may have read too quickly. It sounds like you're saying there is a new Nasserist Party that's different from the ADNP, so it shouldn't redirect there. Is that right? --BDD (talk) 16:58, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

The new Nasserist Party page that I started is no longer available, so I don't really know what to do. The new party wasn't competing for seats [each party can join whatever electoral alliance they want for the upcoming election], so I think someone removed the page I created and reverted the redirect from the disambiguation page to to the old page for the ADNP. David O. Johnson (talk) 18:31, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I see what happened. Your article shouldn't've been made into a redirect without discussion. For now, I think your article should be separate; eventually, we may want to merge the ADNP into it, depending on what happens in the future, and we will want to move it to Nasserist Party. I think that's what you originally wanted. --BDD (talk) 19:52, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that is correct. Thank you. I will go ahead and recreate the Nasserist Party page under Nasserist Party (Egypt) later on. I suppose there should be a way to differentiate the two parties with similar names. Thanks again. David O. Johnson (talk) 22:46, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

Disregard my last comment. I can see you restored the article I created. Thank you. David O. Johnson (talk) 23:09, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

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  • This notice means that the link to the Union Party disambiguation page should be fixed by changing it to a link direct to the appropriate page, like Union Party (Egypt). LittleBen (talk) 07:30, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I have done that already.David O. Johnson (talk) 07:32, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

  • I added extra info. about hatnotes here. Several useful ones are listed for my reference near the top of my user page. LittleBen (talk) 07:36, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
  • If you view the history tab you will see that User:ukexpat kindly fixed the problem. LittleBen (talk) 16:02, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

District6[edit]

Just so you know, a space between District and 6 would have fixed the problem equally as well. 184.78.81.245 (talk) 17:47, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

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Syrian civil war[edit]

Please stop removing the double-dividers from the Syrian civil war infobox. They are there as an interim solution for an ongoing content dispute, and your removals may seem disruptive. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 22:45, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

My apologies.David O. Johnson (talk) 22:46, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

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Shoura Council Members[edit]

Could you add your information about the Shoura Council Composition to its Article in Shura Council?--Chauahuasachca (talk) 10:48, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I'll add it later; this article is still being updated constantly. http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/update-islamists-and-old-regime-men-morsy-s-shura-council-appointments David O. Johnson (talk) 20:42, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and added the seats that I am aware of; I just put them in a list for now. David O. Johnson (talk) 22:23, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

ITN for Egyptian constitutional referendum, 2012[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Islamist Jihadi Party[edit]

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  • I agree it's not a hoax, but a single reference to someone as the founder of a party is not enough to show importance or significance. By all means re-create if you can find more, remembering that while a "credible assertion of significance or importance" is enough to avoid speedy deletion, if an article is to be kept it will need to pass the WP:GNG. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:32, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

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Page moves[edit]

Hello David. Well done for spotting that the next Lebanese general election has had its date changed, but when you move articles like that, can you make sure to update the templates on it too? You neglected to update {{Lebanese elections}}, which still showed the date as 2013. Usually the Politics of... templates have future elections on too, but the Lebanese one seems to be an exception. Cheers, Number 57 15:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I'll make sure to do that next time. Thanks for the info. David O. Johnson (talk) 15:29, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Ghuraba Al-Sham[edit]

Hi, it seems that Lothar von Richthofen is engaging again in an edit war at the Ghuraba Al-Sham article, removing any editions pointing to the dubiousness of his claim of former alliances of that group with the Syrian intelligence while simultaneously claim that the group is no longer allied with Al-Nusra Front. I had added again your last edit and the dubious tags, but I dont know how much they will stay like that. Im thinking also to add a NPOV tag if things continue like that. What do you think about this and what can we do? Regards,--HCPUNXKID (talk) 16:25, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

If you actually read the sources properly, it isn't "dubious" at all. See the article's talkpage for a lesson in reading comprehension. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 19:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
Wow, and then you talk about "aggressive behaviour", what an hypocrite...--HCPUNXKID (talk) 15:02, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I overhauled the article, adding sources where needed. Ghuraba al-Sham's former alliance with the Al Nusra Front is well-documented, as are links with Syrian intelligence. David O. Johnson (talk) 20:20, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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TemplateData is here[edit]

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What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.

The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.

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Problematic formatting[edit]

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Merger proposal: United Revolutionary Front/Revolutionary Democratic Coalition[edit]

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I have proposed to merge the articles Revolutionary Democratic Coalition and United Revolutionary Front, both created by you. You find my reasons for the proposal and the discussion at Talk:Revolutionary Democratic Coalition#Merger proposal. Please feel free to comment. Kind regards. --RJFF (talk) 17:00, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Shia militants in the Syrian war[edit]

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2014 constitution of egypt[edit]

hi can you create the articl ?--Principal adjoint (talk) 17:08, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I think we just at least wait to see if it passes in the referendum.David O. Johnson (talk) 17:20, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

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Libyan Constituent Assembly election[edit]

Hi David. Thanks for adding a date to the election, but you recreated the article where the redirect was rather than moving the existing article. This causes all kinds of problems with regards to attributions. If you can't move a page, you need to use the WP:RM process, or if it's uncontroversial, just ask an admin like myself. Cheers, Number 57 13:59, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

2013 revolution[edit]

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2014 constitution of egypt[edit]

hello, it is not a new --Panam2014 (talk) 21:11, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Why remove archival information from references?[edit]

hi David, I fail to understand why you have systematically been removing archival information from references in at least these two edits that you made:

How can removal of archival information possibly improve the quality of an article? This is not just a luxury of "extra info". The verifiability of an online encylopedia depends mainly on external web pages. The history of the world wide web shows that sources can be volatile. Web pages that are interesting and useful and appear stable can and do disappear. Just because a source disappears does not imply that we should remove the corresponding information from the Wikipedia. Given that archival websites exist, archiving these makes our articles more verifiable in the long term. This still requires the reader to trust the archiving organisation, but that's easier than searching through a long edit history and then trusting a random Wikipedian's memory ("I remember I read the info justifying that sentence ten years ago at the time I edited, but I'm afraid I didn't store a snapshot"). Please see Web archiving for a general discussion and WebCite or List of Web archiving initiatives for some examples. Even mainstream newspaper websites are not necessarily stable in the long term. A newspaper might decide to require subscriptions for articles older than X years. Or the newspaper might close down in an economic crisis with nobody from the ex-newspaper making the effort (legal + hardware + software) to create a long-term web archive.

Unless you have a good reason from removing the archival information, I would suggest that you restore the deleted material.

(On a less fundamental point, I also fail to understand why you have removed reference labels from references that in a given version of an article are only cited once. If a reference is useful once, chances are that someone editing later may wish to cite the same reference for another relevant piece of information. The edit label can usually be guessed by clicking on the existing link to the reference - if the label already exists. Removing an existing label creates extra work for the later edit. The extra number of bytes is negligible in terms of download time compared to the main text. Conciseness is needed in the rendered text, not the source text. In any case, the archival information is a much more fundamental issue.)

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Hello, regarding the archival information; I personally thought that it wasn't needed, though I currently understand the reasoning for keeping them intact. Regarding the reference names, you make a valid point. I will keep this in mind as I continue to edit articles. Thank you, David O. Johnson (talk) 01:30, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, thanks :). Boud (talk) 18:00, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

it is a new constitution[edit]

[1] --Panam2014 (talk) 11:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Re:Ghuraba al-Sham[edit]

As I said before, the claim about Ghuraba al-Sham being allied with Syrian intel is just that, allegations (even the sources given talk about that, accusations, suggestions, allegations and claims, not facts). Some people also claim that the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant is allied or even funded by the Syrian goverment, but we dont put the Syrian gov. as an ISIS ally in its infobox (logically). So, I cannot accept adding Syrian intelligence to the infobox as an ally, nor with the (formerly) clarification, nor with the (allegedly) clarification. Why? Because following that logic we should add, for example, the FSA (formerly) to the ISIS allies section of its infobox, as they were allies until a few months ago, and they even are still allies against Kurdish forces in Hasakah province. A clear double standard example. I agree that allegations could have space in the articles content, but not in the infobox, as it is misleading. Regards, --HCPUNXKID (talk) 16:49, 23 January 2014 (UTC)

Sinai casualties[edit]

Hello, are those deaths included in the 30 killed in airstrikes yesterday? Fitzcarmalan (talk) 23:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I can't say for certain, but it seems very likely that they are the same; they occurred on the same day & the source you gave states that there were "at least" 20 deaths.David O. Johnson (talk) 01:38, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Egyptian Revolution of 2013[edit]

Some user has controversially moved the page to another title and for some reason i can't seem to be able to move it back since the redirect page had a past edit history. I have never faced a similar situation while moving a page back to its initial name (since i'm not entirely new here) so i'm wondering what to do. A little help would be great. Thanks. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 21:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

The new title is better. --Panam2014 (talk) 21:16, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Fitzcarmalan, you will have to request a move so an administrator can do it. Info is here: Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Requesting_technical_moves.David O. Johnson (talk) 21:40, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Oppose. This provisional title is most neutral, waiting to find a consensus.--Panam2014 (talk) 21:42, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Panam2014 has also moved the 1959 Constitution of Tunisia page; I'll request an admin move for that article.David O. Johnson (talk) 21:50, 4 February 2014 (UTC) Edit: I've requested the move for the constitution of Tunisia page. David O. Johnson (talk) 21:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Can you please do the same for the revolution page? Yes, i have already made similar requests in the past, but i don't know how to explain it this time. And wasn't this the original title? Please explain to me if it is possible for Panam2014 to simply reach a similar conclusion that this new title is better without even bothering to discuss it. Not trying to be childish here, but i don't know why am i the one supposed to make a request while Panam2014 should have done this in the first place. Thoughts? Fitzcarmalan (talk) 22:00, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll go ahead and make the request; I can't say what Panam2014's motivations are, so I do not know why he didn't discuss these moves beforehand. David O. Johnson (talk) 22:05, 4 February 2014 (UTC) The request is now added. David O. Johnson (talk) 22:07, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, really appreciate this. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 22:12, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
The 2014 constitution of Tunisia is not a draft because it was signated by the president. --Panam2014 (talk) 16:18, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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Cabinet of Libya[edit]

I bet that you did not notice the corrections in the Zeidan Cabinet, before deleting instead of merging in the Cabinet of Libya article. I will fix. Before I do anything rash, is there an article on the El-Keib cabinet? --Bejnar (talk) 20:32, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

The Zeidan Cabinet has its own article, as well as the info on the Cabinet of Libya page. I don't think there is an article for the El-Keib cabinet. My apologies for not noticing the corrections.David O. Johnson (talk) 20:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Should I make a El-Keib Cabinet article, or put the table in the Cabinet of Libya article? --Bejnar (talk) 20:50, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

I would say make a new article. The Cabinet of Egypt, for example, only deals with the current cabinet.David O. Johnson (talk) 21:02, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

Done. --Bejnar (talk) 21:06, 19 May 2014 (UTC)

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explannation[edit]

i am sorry to tell you that the Sinai insurgency is indeed finished, the Egyptian army says that it has full control of the region, please do some research and if you count all the militants killed you can clearly see it is 469 not 389 i will put my information back on the page, please tell me why before deleting anything next time

farewell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.223.223.235 (talk) 17:52, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

end of sinai insurgency[edit]

please do some research before deleting anything i've done because the egyptian army claims to have full control of the peninsula — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.223.223.235 (talk) 20:46, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

According to [2], the Sinai insurgency is still going on. Thus the Egyptian army does not have complete control.David O. Johnson (talk) 20:55, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

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Abdullah Theney[edit]

Hello it was difficult to rename. Regards. 16:33, 10 June 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Panam2014 (talkcontribs)

Ayman Nour[edit]

He is a member of the anti coup alliance ? --Panam2014 (talk) 09:43, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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