User talk:David Shankbone

		The Special Barnstar
		I'm very jealous that you got to hang out with RD. Nevertheless, here is the appropriate barnstar (or most that I could find) for improving WP. I love it, and you made WP a better place. Obamafan70 (talk) 14:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Me in a helicopter over New York, my hometown. This was a birthday gift I gave my two nephews.

Ron Howard photographing me on his iPhone while I photograph him at the Tribeca Film Festival, April 2011

Welcome back!

Hopefully you plan on staying a while? --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 21:54, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Ponyo - I appreciate that :-) I plan to stick around for awhile, add some images, chillax with the Wiki peeps. --Take care, David Shankbone 21:58, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Cool, the first pint is on me!

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Hey, that's great news. A big welcome from me too! :) SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 22:01, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

@Ponyo - glug glug glug - I owe you one, and that was tasty! @Slim - missed you! Hey, I have a really exciting photography thing coming up on October 19. PETA has organized a protest of McDonald's with midget stripper dwarfs from Centerfold Strips—which bills itself as the number one source for midget and dwarf strippers—who will be dressed as chickens shouting "I AM NOT A NUGGET!" It was supposed to happen in September but got rained out, so they had to reapply for permits, etc. Needless to say, I'm excited that this event was ever dreamed up by anybody, not to mention to photograph it :-D --Take care, David Shankbone 22:10, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Photographs of midget stripper dwarfs dressed as chickens and shouting "I am not a nugget"? All I can say is ... David Shankbone is back!! :D SlimVirgin ^{talk|contribs} 22:17, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back! We've never interacted, but i have noticed your work, and am glad to see you return. Oh, and if David H. Koch or Charles G. Koch are ever in your area, can you get some Photos? I believe that David is of David H. Koch Theater fame so he might have reason to be in NYC. Bonewah (talk) 22:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the message, Bonewah. I know the Kochs come into New York a good bit, but they are notoriously press shy, so it may be quite a feat to get them. But I'll keep my eyes peeled for opportunities. Thanks again for the welcome back. --David Shankbone 21:57, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Help us please

Mr. Shankbone,

You seem to have incredible skills in getting celeb pics. Us wikipedians working on the articles for the soap opera actresses: Esta TerBlanche & Rebecca Budig have found it impossible to find properly licensed pictures of them. Any assistance you could offer would be greatly appreciated,

Regards. Wlmg Wlmg (talk) 02:34, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmm - It looks like TerBlanche is in South Africa and Budig in Los Angeles (?). I'm New York-based, so I can only shoot people if they come through my town and I know about it. If you hear either plans to do so, let me know. Thanks for the nice note and happy editing Wlmg. --David Shankbone 03:50, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

TerBlanche is also in LA, but hey you never know if they show up in New York.Wlmg (talk) 02:38, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah, well, if you follow them and discover when one or the other will visit NYC (highly likely) then let me know and I'll see what I can do. --David Shankbone 04:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Image of Rufus Wainwright

LOVE the new image you uploaded of Rufus Wainwright! I hope you don't mind that I added it to a few Wainwright-related pages. The image deserves to be displayed proudly! Keep up the great work. --Another Believer _(Talk) 23:30, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Another Believer, I really appreciate that :-) --David Shankbone 00:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Richard Dawkins

I was getting ready to revert your change of the image at Richard Dawkins (a fair bit of nonsense happens there), but then I saw what you had done. Congratulations, an excellent image! Johnuniq (talk) 03:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks, Johnuniq - I have options I am about to give the regular editors of the article to choose from (though sometimes that can cause more drahmaz!). --David Shankbone 03:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

I agree wholeheartedly with Johnuniq; WP would be a much better space with more users like yourself. Regards, Obamafan70 (talk) 19:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Wow! Thank you! --David Shankbone 23:02, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Chat

Yes, David I'm still here despite all the ups and downs. As a New Yorker and Marine, I'm too tough to let things get in my way. Hey, it is always nice to hear from one of my dearest and best friends here. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:06, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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Muscle worship and/or session wrestler pics

Do you think you could find some free pictures of those activities? There's a ton of non-free material out there (a quick search on youtube is proof enough), but I didn't have any luck finding something that's allowable on Wikipedia. I've done a little search on flickr, but even fully-dressed pics like [1] are "all rights reserved". Thanks, Tijfo098 (talk) 14:37, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia NYC Meetup Sat Oct 16

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Anna Wintour pic

Thanks. I may even put that one in the infobox as the most recent one we have before I bring the article to FAC again. Daniel Case (talk) 18:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Daniel, good to hear from you! There has been some amazing work done on that article in the last year. I almost didn't recognize it. --David Shankbone 20:54, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

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Cheers

Hi, great to see you back!

Looking for one of your photos, I have seen that you have forgotten to license some of the images in Commons [2]

Cheers, --Ecelan (talk) 17:09, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Cheers for the welcome back, and thanks for the heads up about the missing licenses - fixed (at least the ones in the first 250 ;-) --David Shankbone 00:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Discussion about using one's own images

David, I didn't feel comfortable simply undoing your addition to Michael Lucas (director) a second time - perhaps I was being overly officious. I've started an informal discussion here. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 19:17, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

lol - no worries, I undid it. I was just being playful. Good discussion to have regardless, so good luck with it. --David Shankbone 23:07, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

A Little Help Please...

David, I've seen a lot of your photos and I'm really impressed. You are great! Do you happen to have any Whitney Houston images? I really need them for use in Infobox.. Thanks Novice7 ^(Talk) 04:53, 29 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Novice, I appreciate that. I don't have any Whitney photos right now, but I'll keep my eyes peeled. She's notoriously difficult to photograph. --David Shankbone 05:18, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

LOL. Anyways, thanks for replying David. Novice7 ^(Talk) 14:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

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Michael Lucas (director)

I was going to throw the {{Press}} template on the talk page after coming across this 2008 story at AVN (RS per the related project) but then had second thoughts since it looks like it was drama. Anyways, do you have the link available to the wikinews write-up? I'm all sorts of curious now.Cptnono (talk) 09:56, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi Cptnono - I'm not sure if there ever was a Wikinews write-up or not, but it was a dramatic time that, in hindsight, was really just a bunch of nothing except a pain in the butt. Back in 2008 it was difficult to tell whether the situation was serious or not. It ended up just being an obsessed person who clearly needed more to do with his time. Live and learn. --David Shankbone 02:04, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Welcome back

A bit late but it appears all the angry wikipedians have come back to play ;-) IvoShandor (talk) 09:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Ivo - Great to see you here! Oh, I'm not all that angry about anything; life is good. :-) --David Shankbone 01:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

I was only kidding man. I was just thinking back to the good ol' days of Wikidrama, myself included in that one. Great to see you too! I hope all is well. IvoShandor (talk) 09:48, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

Things are good - I knew you were kidding and so was I: I AM ANGRY AS HELL!  ;-) It makes me happy you are still here. --David Shankbone 02:50, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

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Oh ma gosh!

David, a big welcome back! The resident Madonna stan gives you a proper hug. Hope this is a wonderful beginning for you. Your amazing picture at Madonna is a beacon of light for us. And now I will shamefully probe you with a request. Any recent pic you took of the old bag? The botoxes have really changed her face from the wonderful pic that you took. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:11, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Heh - I know, she's changed, though I really don't want to take any shot with her arms. Unfortunately, I've been so busy IRL with my job and friends I haven't been keeping a good eye out for opportunities (She was recently at a party for Jean Paul Gaultier at La Perla). New stuff are things I'm invited to, not my own pursuits. She'd be a great one to do again. I went to photograph David Sedaris and he allowed no press, and no audience member could take photographs. I was so bummed. Apparently he really, really dislikes people taking his picture, press or fan. And thanks for the compliment! --David Shankbone 05:27, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Hey David. Just trollin around here. I wanted to say I have no idea how you got such a close up on all these A-listers. Nice job! :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 05:18, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - but the only way I did anything I did is because everything you guys all did. If there weren't articles to photograph for, I wouldn't shoot the shots. We all did this together, and when it appears easy or seamless to the outside its only because our collective brilliance makes it seem so. It really is true. --David Shankbone 04:10, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Well she isn't called the mistress of re-invention for nothing eh? And oh well... just keep an eye out if you see the old bag anywhere you frequent, didn't you guys knew each other once? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 17:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Madonna and I don't speak, and if you've ever read any of Rupert Everett's writings about falling out with her, you'd understand. Not that I don't think he's a total name-droppy jerk who screwed up every opportunity handed to him and then blamed it on his being frank about his sexuality, which is ridiculous. Anyway - if I photograph her it'll be at a public event that I happen to attend; she won't be inviting me. --David Shankbone 03:10, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Legolas - just if it wasn't clear, that was a joke above - I've never known Madonna :-) --David Shankbone 03:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Lol, I did understand that it was a joke David. Anyways, I hope your association with Michael Lucas is going good, although he appears hot headed for some reason. And yeah, Madonna rarely calls anybody in her events does she? Try to go to the opening of her next gym in Moscow. Now that will be an opportunity worth taking a picture for. I would also like to ask you, did you happen to catch Lady Gaga anywhere? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:50, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I think often people wear a public persona that is meant to garner attention but doesn't really reflect who they are, particularly when they work in entertainment. I'm hoping that Madonna opens a branch of her gym in New York - how could she not? So maybe then I can get another shot of her. I saw Lady Gaga in concert at Madison Square Garden - the photos are here on my blog or at Flickr, but I didn't think any were worth uploading. Let me know if you feel differently. --David Shankbone 03:49, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I do agree with that, maybe my perception of Lucas is wrong, but oh well. Its unlikely that I will know him personally eh? I loved your images from Gaga's concert, but if Im correct some of them will fail wiki's Freedom of Panorama policy, no? I think you can upload the images of those people in the Gaga costumes. I can use them on the Lady Gaga article to expand on her influence probably. Thanks for all you do David, — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:08, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Request

[3] When you add a source to an article, could you please format it correctly, i.e. author, article title, publication, date, page number, and date retrieved? That way, if the link disappears, the citation will still work as a source. Also, this article already had a picture of a water horizon, so yours was a duplicate, plus you put your photo above a picture of the earth's horizon from the space shuttle! Could you please be careful when you add photos you have taken to Wikipedia articles to ensure that your photo is really directly related to the article topic? Thank you. Cla68 (talk) 05:41, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I certainly will take those suggestions into account. Happy holidays. --David Shankbone 03:43, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I thought you were merely dabbling

But you really are back, aren't you? :-D KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 20:39, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Oui oui mon frer (sic?). But just with content; no politics ;-) Glad to see you are still here, that's for sure - with a brain better than a Funk & Wagnall's set, this site needs you! --David Shankbone 03:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

And with your page semi-protected, too, as someone mentioned on my talk page. Message for you, sir! (sound of arrow, thunk) KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 20:47, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I responded on your Talk, but I think it might be time for Grace to have her own article. --David Shankbone 03:43, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Whatever the politics, you do good work. Thank you. Bielle (talk) 03:58, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Bielle, I appreciate that note. I hopefully don't let my politics interfere with my Wiki activities, which I hope that my history shows. I was proud that I didn't allow my politics to interfere with my Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck portraits. --David Shankbone 08:35, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think either of them have any cause for complaint, and the rest of us will see what we wish to see almost regardless of what your lens highlights. I am also glad, even when I disagreed strongly with some WP stance you were taking, that you stayed with the project. Bielle (talk) 10:02, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks again, I appreciate that :-) and Happy New Year! --David Shankbone 17:27, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Re:Happy New Year

Thank you my friend David. I also wish you a year full of blessings. I have my computer down and work from my daughters whenever I can. Let's see what this new year brings us. Take care. Tony the Marine (talk) 20:39, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Today's New York Times

What was the most popular documentary of 2010? “Jackass 3D.”

We thus need to have an extensive debate on five article talk pages and three notice boards. THF (talk) 04:12, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Lol! Don't forget though...reality film is a subgenre of documentary... :-D You randomly popped into my head about a week ago and I was hoping that you were doing well. Glad to see you are still here. --David Shankbone 01:09, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiXDC: Wikipedia 10th Birthday!

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Just for the record, I do not enjoy the prospect that my only contact with Wikipedia's best contributor of free content is to nominate his items for deletion. Magog the Ogre (talk) 14:33, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Magog - Thanks for such high praise, although there are plenty of people who do more than me :-) Funny story - a French friend of mine sometime last fall reference a television show called Julie Lescaut. I looked up the article history and noticed your name, which stuck in my head as it's memorable and I repeated it to myself several times to get the pronunciation down :-) All the g's and o's were swimming in my head. And here you are. I'm okay with the deletion; there's a crop of 2006 "art" photos that I uploaded before I knew better, which are slowly disappearing over time --David Shankbone 23:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!

for your note. Hope you're well too. :) Steven Walling 07:22, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

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Picture of Elizabeth Gillies

Hello, I found your wikipedia account by random, you do an awesome job here. I love all your pictures and you seem to have incredible skills in getting pictures of famous persons. To my question: Would it be possible to get a picture of Elizabeth Gillies? There isn't any picture of her on wikipedia or flickr. Sadly, I don't know when she will be in New York. I would be very grateful for any help. Best regards, --Simon.hess (talk) 07:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Simon - I will be happy to try. Since you follow what she does, could you alert me if you notice she'll be in the city, and maybe I can try to arrange something? That would be a big help. I looked up Burgdorf, Switzerland on Google Images - looks stunning!! --David Shankbone 00:57, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, I will alert you if I notice she will be in New York. Thanks for your compliment to Burgdorf. I hope one day to go to "The Big Apple", it's an awesome city. --Simon.hess (talk) 14:48, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012 bid, DC chapter & next meetup!

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Ariana Grande

Hi, Ariana Grande is at New York. She tweeted that this morning over her official twitter account. Can you take a new picture of her and upload it here? That would be so grateful. --Simon.hess (talk) 02:51, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

5W Public Relations

Please review 5W_Public_Relations years of comments and discussions being ignored by user: Ravpapa. Notice you have been active before and very much appreciate your balance and assistance. Pls assist. Emetemet13 (talk) 22:48, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/wikipedia/duplicates/gdsqj/cats_having_sex_in_israel/ --Gwern (contribs) 00:01 30 March 2011 (GMT)

Ha! That gave me such a good laugh - thank you! --David Shankbone 23:09, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

zach grenier

Hey David - any chance you have a usable shot of Zach Grenier? He was nominated for a Tony a couple of years ago, so I thought it was possible. (He plays David Lee - senior matrimonial lawyer on The Good Wife.) Thanks! Tvoz/talk 17:35, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

He would be a good one to get. He's the kind of actor who could very well show up on a Tribeca carpet (which is coming up at the end of this month), so when they release the celebrity tip sheet I will eyeball it for him. I'd like to get an updated Adrian Grenier, too. --David Shankbone 15:01, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Wonder if they're related. Thanks as always! Tvoz/talk 18:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

oral history

Hi, someone put me onto you, thinking you might have produced and uploaded a few soundfiles to WP articles of interviews you've conducted of people on the topic. I am interested in exploring possibilities for wikimedians produce, edit, upload, and use such soundfiles to illustrate articles on milhist and the history of settlements, in particular. Could be problems with OR? It would have to be trialled carefully if people though it was worth doing. Any ideas? Tony (talk) 11:40, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

I think this is a wonderful idea. There has been discussion of it several times in the past; see here on Jimbo's talk page, for example. So long as there's no reasonable doubt who is speaking, and the editor is an established user, it strikes me as a win-win situation. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 16:19, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi guys - I would like to give some thoughts, but will do so better in a couple of days. I'm in the middle of photographing at the Tribeca Film Festival (and then Time 100 next week) and running a little ragged. I think it's a good idea too - more thoughts later. --David Shankbone 19:21, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments, Slim. That discussion you linked to is mostly about WN, which I believe operates under a badly flawed model—that's a great pity, but I can't see a way around it. On the matter of oral history in en.WP articles, I've been put off a little by comments from a couple of people who raised OR and RS issues. One person said people forget, people exaggerate and distort, and they can get it wrong when recalling their early autobiographical thoughts. That is why, he said, we cite historians and other scholars who skilfully interview such people and weigh up what they say against other sources. I don't disagree with that criticism, but nor do I entirely discount the idea. However, it would have to be applied very very carefully, with strict guidelines. My focus would have been on MilHist and elderly people on the history of settlements. Tony (talk) 02:16, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

It's true that people forget, exaggerate, and so on, but so long as we treat the interviews as we would any other primary source—or even extend to the interviews the rules about self-published sources—I can't see that it would present a problem. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 13:44, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree with SV here - if you treat them as primary sources then those rules apply. The question would be to verify identity and their time served - but that night be accomplished through OTRS? Or if there are local news stories about him or her, that would suffice. --David Shankbone 03:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

I guess we have not much in the way of examples yet. There are, of course, sound bites (possibly free) in libraries and war museums. Where it concerns recordings directly by Wikipedians, one might target a few articles for which examples might be made. It may be a bit controversial. A few guidelines come roughly to mind. What do you think?

A sound bite of a person's commentary/recollections should:

• be considered only where the material is not already covered in existing sources, or where the sound bite confirms material in existing sources in such a way that improves verification and/or gives another angle to them;
• provide a unique aid to readers' understanding of the topic;
• be specific to a specific part of a topic [not sure about this one];
• be cross-checked for factual accuracy and/or contextual consistency with other sources, where available;
• be edited down as necessary, while being true to the intended meaning of the speaker, to—

• provide maximum focus on a specific part of a topic in as brief a duration as possible, and
• remove any presence of an interviewer

• be supported by a sound description page that gives all of the details readers would expect (include supporting evidence that the speaker is a reliable source, how the oral text has been edited, time and place and who was involved, etc.).

I had in mind a trial involving a person who took part in or witnessed a specific military event, or someone who witnessed another specific ?dramatic event related to, say, a natural disaster or politics. But I'm still nervous that it might get out of hand. How could quality be maintained, especially the trivial? How could we prevent undesirable bites from the subjects in (barely notable) BLPs? Who wants to know some spectator's opinion of a football match? Or commentary from a minor actor (there are thousands of articles on minor actors that are little more than vanity pieces. Tony (talk) 14:34, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

I think where we're interviewing witnesses to history, what they said would have to be entirely uncontentious and personal. "I remember that, when the bomb fell, my wife had just made me a cup of tea," kind of thing. The historian Benny Morris has written of his abandonment of any kind of eyewitness statements in Israel-Palestine issues—statements that he used to seek out—because of the problem of distortion, both deliberate and accidental. SlimVirgin ^{TALK|CONTRIBS} 14:49, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Is it a matter of steering a course between the trivial (cup of tea), the contentious (unless contextualised as such, or paried with someone with a contrasting view); and in avoiding the rambling and the chatty? I should imagine the tone is hard to get right. They seem to do it well in television and radio documentaries, though.

Despite these issues—in which it's harder to get it right than in quoting published written text—spoken evidence could have a unique role to play in WP: books can't do it, and TV and radio do it in a very different mode. Unsure. Tony (talk) 03:34, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

I would suggest going with people who are already published as sources, say by a newspaper or in book. There are not many vets left, for instance, and there is a rush to record their memories. Iraq War vets are interviewed for their accounts often. It would be easy to dig around in the local paper for the veteran of some war who was written about in a human interest piece, or quoted for some story. Plus, since they have already been in the press, they are likely to be more open to the idea. That would resolve a lot of issues. --David Shankbone 03:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

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Met

Hey david, were you at the MET Gala yesterday? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 05:22, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey Legolas - it's funny you should ask because every year I think to write for approval to cover it, but I don't. It would be, like, *the* celebrity photography event of the year to cover, including many major people who make rare public appearances. But I was told--I can't confirm if true--that Anna Wintour personally approves the press list, and I find that idea a little daunting. --David Shankbone 22:33, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Haha. You know when I worked for Billboard, we asked her to come to one of the "Billboard Women in Music" events, and she replied "I cvan, but shan't ma'dear", lol. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 04:52, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you, David Shankbone, for your recent helpful edit to the new article I created, at Savage Love: Straight Answers from America's Most Popular Sex Columnist. Much appreciated. ;) You may also be interested in recent efforts I made at expanding the article about the book by the same author, Skipping Towards Gomorrah, with additional sourced info. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for such good content contributions, Cirt! --David Shankbone 01:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

I really appreciate the kind words, it is so nice to hear and so encouraging towards future endeavors. -- Cirt (talk) 01:22, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Kudos (as usual)

The Darren Criss article is a BLP thorn in my side, but kudos on the great new pic! Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:25, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Ponyo! I was torn between 'broody smoldering eye contact' or 'eyes smiling toothy grin'. I'll leave it for you guys to choose. Good luck with the BLP fun ;-) --David Shankbone 01:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Tee hee hee

The user comments on this pic of yours was just OOC! — Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Gah! lol - those guys are desperate. --David Shankbone 01:42, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Nah, they can't help it if you put gorgeous and "make-them-horny" pics like that. But still, tee heee heee. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:26, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Haha - thanks, but unfortunately that photo is 5 years old, taken when I was 32. I'm an old man now; when I look at that photo I wonder, "How did I ever get these love handles? I was the same weight back then and I didn't have them." Le sigh. --David Shankbone 21:43, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Lol, you should ask Michael Lucas to give you some pointers. Heck even I should take some pointers from him to remain gorgeous at this age. I'm straight but still envy his looks. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 06:42, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Main page pic

Waking up to a Rufus Wainwright FA was a treat, and your fab picture on the main page was certainly the cherry on top. Thanks for everything you do around here. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 12:57, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Bah! I missed it! Thank you for letting me know :-D And thank you for everything you do around here, too. --David Shankbone 01:33, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

You missed it? That's unfortunate...it was unequivocally sexy and perfectly representational. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:39, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I've always wanted to change the coloring in the article lead shot to match the color in this one. I met him at a bar in the East Village called The Phoenix back in 2006, and since my friend was really into him we struck up a conversation (he was alone, and sober). We ended up hanging out with him for half an hour or so, but it was mostly for my friend's benefit. He was really nice! Charming, engaging. I'm not familiar with his work, though I appreciate what he's accomplished. --David Shankbone 01:48, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

That's a fantastic story. His work is certainly worth familiarizing yourself with, it's quite brilliant. (teaser; covering the irreproachable Leonard Cohen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQK4YfiPj1Q and the ubiquitous Beatles cover: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAe1lVDbLf0). --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:02, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I was trying to play wingman for my friend, but it went nowhere for him - maybe I'm a bad wingman. Thanks for the suggestions for a good starting place. I'll take them up. Have a good night Ponyo. --David Shankbone 03:11, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

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Picture of Elizabeth Gillies 2

Hi, I asked you to take an image of Liz Gillies in February, I hope you remember. Now I have noticed that Liz will be in New York today. You can read it by yourself in this tweet from her. Sadly, I don't know where she will be and what she will do in NY. Maybe she will post some more details on twitter. I hope I alert you in time to take a picture of her. I would be grateful if you can catch her, thanks a lot. Regards --Simon.hess (talk) 19:57, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Simon - I only just saw this. I wouldn't have been able to photograph her on such short notice, because I have to contact the pr people orchestrating whatever event she is doing when in town. So many people have to clear you these days. I'm not a paparazzo (so I wouldn't run out to the airport or to her hotel to shoot her) but an event photographer, usually classified as press. I have to be able to arrange something, and that usually takes at least a few days lead time. Sorry! If you get a tip with more advance notice let me know. I hope all is good with you. --David Shankbone 05:08, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi David, Thanks for your answer. If I notice that she will be on a public event I let you know. Thank you anyway. I'm fine how are you? --Simon.hess (talk) 01:06, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Strange request

David, I have a kind of strange request. Well, we all know of the infamous Meat dress of Lady Gaga. I was wondering if you, or any of your photographer friends have a picture of her wearing the dress and willing to release it in commons? Will you please ask? Pretty please -_- :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 13:20, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh trust me, I wouldn't hold back any Gaga photos, littlelone that masterpiece! --David Shankbone 05:10, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Lol, god knows how she carried that off. Well David, will you please ask your friends if they have one? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:43, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I'll ask around but that one is probably pretty valuable to the people who make money off their photos. Can't hurt to ask even if they have a semi-crappy one they'd release. --David Shankbone 19:21, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Tony

Hi Gavid, how you doing? I haven't heard from you in a long time. How's things in New York? Over here it is really hot. So, what do you have planned for your Birthday. I have been having some problems here. You'd be surprise how far some people are willing to go to bring you down. Let's keep it touch. Tony the Marine (talk) 04:25, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Things are going well for an old man turning 37 - time really starts to fly by the older I get. I responded to your post on my Facebook wall; sorry you've had to deal with that challenge, and sorry you are having to deal with problems here now, as well :-/ --David Shankbone 14:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Marcus

I spent some time looking for sources, and there's a bunch in the archives if you are interested. There's a syndicated story by George Will (he wrote it on Oct. 25) that went out across the wires on October 26, 2009 (copy) that makes the unbelievable claim that Marcus didn't know his wife was running for State Senator. It also says "She and her husband danced at Jimmy Carter's inauguration." Further, there's a MSNBC transcript for July 12, 2011 called "Marcus Bachmann Tries to Cure Gays"; a CNN transcript for July 13, 2011 covering a segment called "Inside the Bachmann Family"; and a FOX News Channel transcript for July 14, 2011 callled "Jon Stewart Calls Out Marcus Bachmann". Viriditas (talk) 09:36, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi Viriditas - Since I created the article I thought I would let other editors shape it, so I'm going to back away for now. As always, it's good to still see you here - almost 7 years for you! I hope all is well. --David Shankbone 15:40, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, David. I'm curious about something: since you were at the 2011 TIME 100 event with Michelle Bachmann, didn't you take some photographs of her husband? Viriditas (talk) 03:34, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Funny you should ask! I only just realized on Friday night, when I wrote the article, who it was that accompanied her that night. He was out of the spotlight at the time, and they seemed like an unlikely couple, so I forgot about it and assumed he was her brother or something. Then when researching the article I came across a photo of them together and I thought Wait, I was there... I dragged out my archive and sure enough. Unfortunately, I don't have a another one than what I put on the article. For these kinds of events I have maybe 5 to 10 seconds to photograph each person, 15 tops. I shoot with an $800 Pentax; the pros next to me shoot with $8,000 Nikons. My camera is slow in comparison, so it's harder for me to get a good shoot in that time frame when they are smiling, looking at the camera and not blinking, winking, talking or contorting their face with laughter or grimacing. I focused on trying to take a good photo of Michele. Sigh - that's why at these events I try to photograph everyone but can't always - argh. --David Shankbone 05:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Smithsonian Archives of American Art Backstage Pass

Archives of American Art Backstage Pass! - You are invited!

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JoseMartiCentralParkNYC.JPG

hi, i see they're deleting this image [4]. we need to talk with sarah about this. Slowking4: 7@1|x 18:06, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Oh well - quite a few of my 2006 images, before I knew what I could license as CC, have been deleted. They aren't the highest quality so I haven't been too broken up about it. Thanks for letting me know! --David Shankbone 21:10, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

they're better than mine; i have an idea User:Slowking4/Image Rescue Squadron, let's talk at glam Slowking4: 7@1|x 21:51, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

That would be a lot of fun - I had to switch to waitlist, though, because something has come up and it might prevent me from going. Hopefully not! --David Shankbone 03:03, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

The WikiProject National Archives Newsletter

The first ever WikiProject National Archives newsletter has been published. Please read on to find out what we're up to and how to help out! There are many opportunities for getting more involved. Dominic·t 21:20, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

The WikiProject National Archives Newsletter July 2011 News Featured article contest This week, our first multilingual featured article contest was announced. We are aiming to improve the articles on the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, or Bill of Rights to featured or good status in English and other languages. Prizes for winners will be a gift package from the National Archives including a book of your choice or a tote bag, and other swag, plus, of course, a special barnstar. August 6 backstage pass Plans are in the works for a meetup and backstage pass event at the National Archives II facility in College Park, MD. There will be a regular social meetup, a discussion with Dominic about WP:NARA, a tour of the building by NARA staff, and then time for a scanathon and editathon in the research rooms and library until the building closes at 5 pm. Keep your schedules open! From our recent uploads: 68px ...see more. Special requests: This section includes special requests from the NARA staff: Archival Recovery Team The National Archives' Archival Recovery Team (ART) is a team of law enforcement agents and archivists who investigate NARA's lost and stolen documents. They have received media attention ([5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12]) and would like to request an article be written for the team, if Wikipedians deem it notable. It is hoped that making more information about the group available on Wikipedia will increase public awareness of the documents they are seeking to recover. Ongoing Today's Document challenge The Today's Document challenge is an opportunity for Wikipedians to get their work related to National Archives holdings spotlighted on Archives.gov and the National Archives' tumblr. Each day the National Archives selects a document related to the day's date to showcase. The goal is to get articles related to the selected documents on the main page in ""Did You Know...?" the same day that the National Archives features the document. Alternatively, other appropriate articles related to National Archives holdings not already selected will be used for new documents of the day by NARA staff and posted to their tumblr. Wikisource WP:NARA has a sister WikiProject on Wikisource, WS:NARA. On Wikisource, editors transcribe, proofread, and arrange documents. This helps to make little-known documents more discoverable, or well-known documents more searchable, and improves accessibility. See the files being worked on. If you are new to Wikisource and would like to participate, there are experienced Wikisourcerors willing to be mentors. New contributions A list of some recent contributions to the project: Wikipedia District of Columbia Compensated Emancipation Act (Fetchcomms) Court of the Patriarchs (CutOffTies) Opposition to the overthrow of the Hawaiian Kingdom (Fetchcomms) Wikisource1 Memorial of Queen Liliuokalani in relation to the Crown lands of Hawaii Petition from women of Brookline Resolutions of the Joint Committee on the Washington Monument H. R. 4982 A Petition For Universal Suffrage Susan B. Anthony petition for remission of fine Alexander Hamilton's commission to take rank as Colonel 1Credit goes to Prosody, Theornamentalist, Inductiveload, Digipoke, George Orwell III, Kathleen.wright5, BirgitteSB, and Zhaladshar Tools Archives.gov grabber (Slakr) Future plans Major image contribution The National Archives has hundreds of thousands of digitized documents in its holdings. We are working on a bulk upload to Commons of one particular cache of about 123,000 TIFF master files in the next few days! Once uploaded, these will require a massive community effort to help categorize the files on Commons and add them to articles on Wikipedia or transcribe them on Wikisource. Inclusion in the online catalog We are currently working on a system for including links to pages on Wikimedia projects in the National Archives online catalog. The Wikimedia projects are hosting an increasing number of transcriptions of National Archives documents and high-quality image and video files that are not available through NARA's own site. Links to these Wikimedia pages in the documents' actual catalog records will benefit the end user by providing them access to further resources about the documents, and they will also demonstrate the National Archives commitment to supporting Wikimedians' efforts. To stop receiving this newsletter, please remove your name from the list.

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	You obviously deserve this for your thousands of great photographs. Keep up the awesome work! InverseHypercube 03:45, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you - that was really nice! --David Shankbone 21:07, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Bachmann

Thanks for your response here, I'm not going to respond on the AfD because I've said more than enough there already. Unsurprisingly I'm not really convinced by your thinking in terms of not doing a merge, but that's okay. --Bigtimepeace | talk | contribs 06:41, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

You raised good points, and I don't think if the AfD goes one way or the other it will be the end of the Wiki. My timing wasn't the best after the 'santorum' issues, which I largely stayed out of and didn't really follow. Unfortunately, my individual effort was seen by some as part of a bigger concern, which was disconcerting but understandable. --David Shankbone 12:27, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

DC Meetup, July 29

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Marcus Bachmann III

You have slandered me at the AN/I discussion and I would kindly ask you to edit or strike your remark. I take accusations and insinuations of bigotry very seriously. If you cannot produce any evidence of your claim, as you cannot since there is none, you need to strike your comment. Please do that.Griswaldo (talk) 12:12, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

What outside of my personhood led you to make unevidenced claims at ArbCom? [13][14]. Will you please support those claims with evidence now? --David Shankbone 12:30, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Are you joking? I don't consider that people should be parties to arbitration based on their personhood ever. Do you? As you know very well from the related discussion we were having I consider the article you created as a "political attack article." Gay politics, IMO had nothing to do with it. In fact, and I have no idea if you will believe me, but at that time I had no clue that you were gay yourself. In my view this has to do with a very conservative candidate's run for office - Michelle Bachmann - much more so than with her husband's bigoted counseling practice. In my view the politics involved are very broad conservative/liberal politics. I feel exactly the same way about Santorum. Do you think that I and others believe that Cirt is gay by the way? That the RfC and that Arbitration were initiated because he's a gay guy pushing gay politics? If you do think that I suggest you take a step back and consider that your being completely paranoid. This is a much broader political activism issue to me, as I assume it is for nearly all the people who object to your article. Now please remove your slander.Griswaldo (talk) 12:39, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Do you intend on doing anything about this or answering me? Thanks.Griswaldo (talk) 13:13, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

By the way, personally I'm very, very far to the left both fiscally and socially. I deplore bigotry against anybody including homosexuals (in fact if I were to divulge a level of personal information that I will not on Wikipedia this would become even more obvious). I support gay marriage fully. I deplore activities like those engaged in by Marcus Bachmann and I would rather move to Canada than see Michele in office. I have no problem making my personal views known to you or anyone else. What I have a problem with is when editors try to use the encyclopedia to promote their personal political views. You clearly do not agree with me about your own activities. Fine, but understand that this is the basis of my own position in the Marcus Bachmann situation. The fact that I am, as I have described above, not even remotely biased against gays is why I take such offense to your comment.Griswaldo (talk) 12:45, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

You don't have to be a bigot to say or do bigoted things. I wrote an article about a high-profile subject, an article where every sentence had a mainstream source for a total of 20 sources. You provided no diffs nor examples to make these claims. I don't actually edit many political articles (outside of photos, none for years) - did you know that before you made these offensive claims? --David Shankbone 13:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC) I will be at work, so I won't be responding for the remainder of the day --David Shankbone 13:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Your diffs don't even remotely back the comment you made at AN/I, which is the one I remain offended by. Your comment there remains slander. Here's what I said in each of those diffs maybe you can show me here how any of that supports your claims about me "say[ing] or do[ing] biggoted things."

• A jerk? I think he's calling a spade a spade after the spade said, "Hey look at me I'm a spade." There already is an arbcom case in the works, in the wake of the Cirt RfC which is aiming to deal with these issues broadly speaking. It looks like this example is fair game, with the exception that editorial misconduct wont be looked at. In other words Shankbone wont get dragged into it, but this article will.Griswaldo (talk) 00:19, 22 July 2011 (UTC)*
• What's clear is that you have created a political attack page. As to notability WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTINHERITED apply. What is becoming more clear at the moment is that your political attack page is fair game for inclusion in an upcoming arbitration case. Hopefully this and other political gaming will be dealt with adequately in that venue. Cheers.Griswaldo (talk) 13:42, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
• I think that would only be an issue if Shankbone's activities were to be looked at in terms of sanctioning him as opposed to aiding in the creation of more general principles. Such general principles, solidified in an Arbcom decision could be the basis for discretionary sanctions on anyone going forward.Griswaldo (talk) 13:51, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Now the first "spade" comment was in relation to Tarc's post, verbatim here:

• Thank you for, finally, after much prodding, clearly stating that you created this article because of your personally-held views rather than for any reason of simple Wikipedia notability. As agenda-driven BLP-editing is becoming more and more problematic in the project, this sort of frank admission will be useful if this matter ever goes to RfC or ArtbCom. Tarc (talk) 00:05, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

The claim that you created a political attack page is clearly based on my opinion of what that page is, something that a few editors agree with me about, and a few others do not. But the fact that this is based on my judgement is obvious and does not need "diffs." The comment Tarc made, which prompted me to comment on "spades," directly followed a comment of yours that suggests rather clearly that you wrote the article "because of your personall-held views." What you wrote is this: I think it's important we have a Marcus article because, for the first time in our country's history, we have a contender for the Presidency who has stated she is Biblically commanded to be submissive to her husband. Now back to the issue at hand. What does any of this have to do with me accusing you of doing anything based on your own sexuality? You say you will not make any more edits today because you are at work. That's completely irresponsible. Don't make slanderous comments if you are not prepared to deal with the fall out.Griswaldo (talk) 13:36, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

The irony here is that you are indignant over what you feel are specious claims I have made about you, without evidence, but that I believe. Yet I am bothered that you continually made specious claims about my motivations all over that AfD and at ArbCom, without evidence, but that you believe to be true. So, I guess we have hit an impasse and I don't see either of us convincing the other. Hopefully our next interaction will be more pleasant. --David Shankbone 03:45, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

DC-area Meetup, Saturday, August 6

National Archives Backstage Pass - Who should come? You should. Really.
	On Saturday, August 6, the National Archives is hosting a Wikipedia meetup, backstage pass tour, and edit-a-thon in College Park, Maryland. Meet staff and fellow Wikipedians, go behind the scenes at the National Archives, help digitize documents, and edit together! Dominic·t 21:20, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

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SandboxMB

What is the status of User:David Shankbone/SandboxMB? The easiest route to closing this entire chapter would be to put a user-requested speedy-delete on it. Tarc (talk) 17:42, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to keep it around as a draft and try to improve it; hopefully some new sources will come about in the next month or so. If not, I'll probably abandon it. --David Shankbone 22:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

One month later, it is completely untouched. I am giving this a courtesy blanking, as IMO BLPs that have been deleted or redirected via community consensus should not languish in user-space. If this is undone, then MfD will be the next step. Tarc (talk) 22:55, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Tarc I have to say I am impressed that you came here to courtesy blank a random sandbox article at exactly one month and 38 minutes from the moment I said that. Like an egg timer! We may have our disagreements, but one thing we have in common is how much we love the project, and I can't touch what you just displayed. I hope all is well. --David Shankbone 05:53, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Venice

So... were you there? La Ciccone looks gorgeous at the press photos, but none of them would change their license. Can you pull some strings? :( — Legolas ^(talk2me) 18:20, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Legolas - you have to know by now I am not jet-setting off to Venice! Today I went to Brooklyn IKEA to buy some cheap "velvet" curtains. I wasn't in Italy photographing Madonna!  ;-) Would be great. I have to tell you, I feel like that 2008 moment was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, and it remains the stand-out moment in all my photos (for me). The idea it would ever be repeated is a dream. I've never been able to convince professionals to give any of their photos up, even less Venice :-( People are possessive - it's a cultural affliction. --David Shankbone 05:58, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I can understand David. The people at Flickr won't even bother to reply. :( Anyhoo, velvet curtains? Dark color I hope. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

No - light tan! They are floor to ceiling and meant to give the illusion of a wall :-) --David Shankbone 02:47, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello Mr. Shankbone :)

Hi David! I was wondering if you had any good Toni Braxton photographs? The current ones are not that good :( Novice7 (talk) 14:10, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey Novice! Would you believe that I had a chance to photograph her earlier this year, and I passed it up for something else? I can't remember who I photographed instead, but I remember finding it hard to pass up the woman who recorded Unbreak My Heart, a favorite of mine from the 90s. I'll keep my eyes peeled. --David Shankbone 02:46, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Really!? Wow. Thank you so much David! Novice7 (talk) 04:39, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

Request for pictures

Hello. I have noticed all your amazing photos of various celebrities, politicians, etc. I was wondering if you could take some requests. Would you be able to take a photo of Elizabeth Gillies, since the current photo is up for deletion. Also, could you possibly take a photo of Keke Palmer, and some other Nickelodeon actors that currently do not have photos on their pages. Thanks very much! Tinton5 (talk) 07:05, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Tinton - I'll keep an eye out for them, but if you happen to know that they'll be at some event then please let me know in advance and I'll see if I can arrange something, if my schedule permits. Work hasn't allowed for a lot of time for photography lately, although it feels like that's all I did this weekend. Thanks for the note and drop by anytime. --David Shankbone 12:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Bandiera Rossa

Hi David!

Your picture of YDS activists on Wall Street contains a background of red flags. If the red flags were not carried by YDS/DSAers (but were carried instead by RCPers, etc.), perhaps they might be cropped?

Cheers,  Kiefer.Wolfowitz 10:10, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Hello - is there a way to tell? Is it known that RCPers were present with the DSAers? Otherwise I'm fine to crop out the red flags if you want - let me know. --David Shankbone 12:22, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

You're invited! Wikimedia DC Annual Membership Meeting

DC Meetup 23 & Annual Membership Meeting

Wikimedia District of Columbia, the newest officially recognized chapter, is holding its Annual Membership Meeting at 1pm on Saturday, October 1, 2011 at the Tenley-Friendship Neighborhood Library. Agenda items include: election of the Board of Directors for the next two years approval of a budget for the 2011-2012 fiscal year report on the activities and accomplishments of the past year social gathering afterwards at a nearby restaurant Candidate nominations are open until 11:59pm EDT on Saturday, September 24. We encourage you to consider being a candidate. (see see candidate instructions) The meeting is open to both the general public and members from within the DC-MD-VA-WV-DE region and beyond. We encourage everyone to attend! You may join the chapter at the meeting or online.

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DC-area Meetup, Saturday, October 8

National Archives Backstage Pass - Who should come? You should. Really.
	You are invited to the National Archives in College Park for a special backstage pass and scanathon meetup with Archivist of the United States David Ferriero, on Saturday, October 8. Go behind the scenes and into the stacks at the National Archives, help digitize documents, and edit together! Free catered lunch provided! Dominic·t 16:06, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Kate Mulgrew

Thanks for taking the photo of Kate Mulgrew at the Met in 2009. I'm curious, did you just happen to see her or what? Viriditas (talk) 11:29, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Hey Viriditas - Hope all is well. I don't do street photography (for celebrities) just event photography - this was taken from the press section at opening night of the 2009 Met. --David Shankbone 22:40, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Oh, thanks for the link to that category. I had not seen it before. You got some great shots of Leelee Sobieski. The camera loves her. Viriditas (talk) 00:05, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

I know! Even preggers! I'd like to get a photo at her normal weight - I had that issue with Karolina Kurkova where her pregnant photo was her main profile photo for a long time, until I was lucky to get her at her normal weight at Tribeca this year. Maybe Sobieski next year! Nothing happens in the winter except book tours. --David Shankbone 00:52, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Anything new with your equipment? Have you played around with any interesting gear? I would love to get into strobes. Viriditas (talk) 01:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Nothing new, except I bought a Pentax this year. I'm still learning its tricks. --David Shankbone 23:28, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Occupy Wall Street

IMO, this is some of your best photography I've ever seen. Keep it up, you might get a Pulitzer! Viriditas (talk) 12:07, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Wow! That's high praise! Let me know when you submit my name and I will buy you a beer. I was excited to run into noted Tea Partier and former SNL castmember Victoria Jackson today at OWS. --David Shankbone 23:26, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Great photos! Wow, the marching nurses is really a good one! We are lucky to have you. Gandydancer (talk) 00:59, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Gandy. You're doing a nice job with the article - it's really growing! --David Shankbone 14:40, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

That Pulitzer might be closer than you think. One of your images was being used as the lead image in Jaclyn Bruntfield's "Occupy Wall Street, Sustainability and 'The Unsettling of America'", which was the lead story on Google News several minutes ago.[15] Viriditas (talk) 10:11, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't know who is doing the AP photography, but it can't compare to yours. They should hire you. Viriditas (talk) 12:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - I hadn't seen that. This guy has some amazing Creative Commons photos of the protest. --David Shankbone 17:03, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

His composition is good, but look at how every image he took is frenetic, claustrophobic and framed in by the city. His images don't only show conflict, it's as if that's the only thing he can shoot. Your photos, OTOH, show the humanity, the inner conflict, the human struggle. Viriditas (talk) 20:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I wish I had been photographing on the Brooklyn Bridge that day, but then again I could have ended up arrested, and that wouldn't have been so good. --David Shankbone 22:30, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Video of the "human megaphone" was perfect. Massive props to you David! LoveUxoxo (talk) 06:32, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks I had a better one but the file was too large and I had trouble downloading it off the phone :-/ I've covered quite a few protests for Wikipedia, but I've never covered one so extensively. --David Shankbone 03:45, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at OWS

If it was not your intention to disengage from the discussion regarding the comments by Brian Phillips, could you please reply to my most recent comment? Centrify (f / k / a FCAYS) (talk) (contribs) 21:19, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I responded. I was waiting to see if some other voices would pop in. --David Shankbone 22:38, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC Oct 22

Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC

You are invited to Wikipedia:The Musical in NYC, an editathon, Wikipedia meet-up and lectures that will be held on Saturday, October 22, 2011, at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts (at Lincoln Center), as part of the Wikipedia Loves Libraries events being held across the USA.

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Recent photo addition to Occupy Wall Street

Your new image File:The Corporatist State 2011 Shankbone.JPG has a couple of problems, both here and at Commons. For the purposes at Wikipedia the image is unusable in it's current form as you have indicated that you are the copyright owner and have released it with Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported. Unfortunately, you do not own the rights to the artwork being used in the image, do not attribute the author/artist and have not licensed it as fair use. I will not remove the image as there is certainly every reason to believe that this can easily be overcome. Please see your commons talk page for further details.--Amadscientist (talk) 23:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

A sculpture surrounded by police and barricaded off is not a derivative work of that sculpture. The photograph is about the police officers surrounding the sculpture, not about the sculpture itself. --David Shankbone 23:25, 22 October 2011 (UTC)

More kudos

Great interview here David; given the quality of your work it's no surprise that you're garnering so much attention. Your support of free media is a huge boon for the principles of Wikipedia. Given the past shoddy treatment you've received from some members of the community we are very lucky that you returned and continue to donate your time and talent. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:55, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Ponyo, that's really nice to say, although I think a lot of people around here showed a good deal of patience with me at times. I wasn't always an angel. It's been interesting to watch OWS up close - who knew it would become what it has become. Is everything going well with you? --David Shankbone 16:57, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Always being an angel = boring! All is well on my end, if not a little dreary and wet now that fall has hit Vancouver. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 18:21, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

You're invited! Wikipedia Loves Libraries DC

Wikipedia Loves Libraries DC & edit-a-thon
Wikipedia Loves Libraries comes to DC on Saturday, November 5th, from 1-5pm, at the Martin Luther King Jr Memorial Library. We will be holding an edit-a-thon, working together to improve Wikipedia content related to DC history, arts, civil rights, or whatever suits your interests. There may also be opportunities to help with scanning historic photos plus some swag! You're invited and we hope to see you there!
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Lost Link

Mr. Shankbone I have lost a link. Do you remember the shoot you did with the dominatrix whose slave wanted to pickup cotton balls off the floor?--Wlmg (talk) 19:15, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Is this what you are looking for? --David Shankbone 15:26, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes, thank you.--Wlmg (talk) 16:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

		The Original Barnstar
		For your tremendous contribution to our image bank and in particular, for helping to improve biographies.Span (talk) 10:34, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you - that was really nice. --David Shankbone 04:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC)

Barn Star

		The Photographer's Barnstar
		For your work on Occupy Wall Street. While I think you could trim back some images, your have great stuff and relevant, especially your latest of the "Hipster cop". Great photo journalism. Amadscientist (talk) 07:47, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much AMS! And please feel free to prune any images you don't think are the best fit for the article. --David Shankbone 23:10, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Occupy Wall Street Image

The following file has been continuously removed from the Occupy Wall Street article under the rationale that the presence of corporate logos in the image is a copy vio, which is contestable. They're miniscule logos. When I attempted to add a fair-use template to the Wikipedia page, it redirects to the Commons page, which was apparently just recently created (redirect). In this manner, since Commons doesn't allow fair use, what to do? Some type of formatting error occurred in which the fair use rationale template for Wikipedia appears as a delete template in Commons! I don't want to delete the image.

Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

• Also, I've started a discussion about this at Talk:Occupy Wall Street — Image for use in Media section. I feel that the small logos within the image aren't in violation of copyright, and that the image improves the article in terms of being more comprehensive. Northamerica1000^(talk) 01:56, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks - I replied at the talk page. --David Shankbone 02:20, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

No problemo. Northamerica1000^(talk) 04:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Someone removed it again

President Paul Kagame of Rwanda

Alicja Bachleda-Curuś and Colin Farrell

Sarah Palin

This image is obviously not in violation of copyright laws, nor Wikipedia policies regarding copyright. Nevertheless, an editor continues to rationalize its removal per an overly-strict interpretation of Wikipedia policy. Northamerica1000^(talk) 15:15, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

I agree with you. If this image is a problem then we need to delete most of the images on Times Square, Picadilly Circus and Kabukichō, Tokyo. User:Amadscientist needs to be careful with these copyright paranoia arguments because if he is successful, and people agree it's problematic for copyright, many, many of my celebrity photographs will need to be taken off Wikipedia or be drastically altered. My event photographs tend to have backdrops that are there to specifically advertise the event and its sponsors, and those are far more germane to the image than the 'media blackout' shot above. We are talking 5 years of Tribeca Film Festival and Time 100 shots, as well as many photographs that User:Toglenn and others have taken. There are thousands of celebrity images with these backdrops that contain logos. In the 'media blackout' photo the logos aren't germane to the image. You could crop out most of that poster and leave the words "welcome to the media blackout" and it would still be the same photo with the same idea: this man believed there was a media blackout.

Regarding the use of my photos on OWS as "presenting an over weighted view of the photographer", I don't even know how to comprehend the merits of that argument. To the best of my knowledge I'm the only one on here who has been seriously photographing this event to document it. I have photographed roughly a dozen other protests that span the ideological spectrum. Only on Wikipedia does this become controversial, and it's why we lose contributors who simply don't want to weed through dumb arguments just to contribute. User:Arzel makes an even more foolish argument not backed by any guideline or policy anywhere. Regardless, it's a low bar in this instance, since my OWS photos have been so widely published, even in the New Yorker if you can believe it, that I was interviewed about my work by a RS along with a slideshow of my favorites. But if Arzel's "Wikipedia can only use images published by reliable sources" argument held sway, we'd need to delete the vast majority of Wikipedia's images. Anyway, all of this is so dumb that I don't want to participate in the discussion over at Talk:OWS. Every image I have ever taken could be removed from Wikipedia and it would not make any difference in my life, so I don't really care. --David Shankbone 17:39, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes. Many of the arguments occurring there are people making up their own policy ideas. Seems like some of it could also be intentional obfuscation, or attempts to take control of the article and/or censor the article. Anyway, happy editing! Northamerica1000^(talk) 17:47, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Images of Haredi women?

Hi -- I understand you have added quite a number of images to Commons, including this one of women in the western wall tunnels. In reading articles on Haredi Judaism and related topics, it strikes me that there is a lack of articles depicting Haredi women, and it might be useful to add a couple in appropriate places e.g. in sections on dress. The one I link to here is meant to illustrate different head/hair coverings, and I think it would be preferable to have one that includes faces. Do you have any photographs along these lines? If not, any thoughts on who might provide one? many thanks, Nomoskedasticity (talk) 15:36, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't, all of my photos from Israel are here but I believe that photo you pointed out is the only one I have of Haredi women (it was an awkward photo to take because the tunnels are so narrow, they were praying, and I was maybe seven feet behind them using my flash). Have you tried doing a search on Flickr for CC images? --David Shankbone 16:32, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Happy Thanksgiving

Happy WHAT? It sure ain't happy for me!

Happy Thanksgiving Tony the Marine (talk) 15:49, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Happy T-Day Tony! I'm out in Colorado with family having a great time. Now I'm off to gamble in Cripple Creek with my mom. --David Shankbone 19:18, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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Fine Art Edit-a-Thon & DC Meetup 26!

Fine Art Edit-a-Thon & Meetup - Who should come? You should. Really.

FINE ART EDIT-A-THON & DC MEETUP 26 is December 17! The Edit-a-Thon will cover fine art subjects from the Federal Art Project and the meet up will involve Wikipedians from the area as well as Wiki-loving GLAM professionals. You don't have to attend both to attend one (but we hope you do!) Click the link above and sign up & spread the word! See you there! SarahStierch (talk) 17:18, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

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Congratulations!

I see that Yahoo! honored you for having one of the 18 Top news photos of 2011. It was Day 14 of the Occupy Wall Street movement. Your photos are always great and you have a HUGE feature in your cap! Royalbroil 03:54, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Royal! I only found out because I checked my Flickr stats and all of a sudden that shot was getting thousands of hits. I didn't even know it was under consideration. It's strange how OWS seems so long ago already. --David Shankbone 02:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

OWS criticism section dispute resolution

I have requested dispute resolution here, and named you as one of the parties involved in the dispute. Cheers! B^e——C_ritical 04:44, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Photographer's Barnstar
	Thank you! Especially nice photograph of Joan Jett... :) Fluppy (talk) 16:16, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

National Archives ExtravaSCANza

You are invited to the National Archives ExtravaSCANza, taking place every day next week from January 4–7, Wednesday to Saturday, in College Park, Maryland (Washington, DC metro area). Come help me cap off my stint as Wikipedian in Residence at the National Archives with one last success! This will be a casual working event in which Wikipedians are getting together to scan interesting documents at the National Archives related to a different theme each day—currently: spaceflight, women's suffrage, Chile, and battleships—for use on Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons. The event is being held on multiple days, and in the evenings and weekend, so that as many locals and out-of-towners from nearby regions1 as possible can come. Please join us! Dominic·t 01:13, 30 December 2011 (UTC) 1 Wikipedians from DC, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Newark, New York City, and Pittsburgh have been invited.

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You're invited to DC Meetup #28!

DC Meetup #28: March 10 at Capitol City Brewery
DC Wikipedia meetup #28 is on Saturday, March 10, 2012, from 7pm on at Capitol City Brewery in downtown DC. (11th & H St NW). Join us for an evening of socializing, chatting about Wikipedia, discussing Wikimedia DC activities and the latest preparations for Wikimania 2012. (RSVP + details)

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You're invited: Smithsonian Institution Women in Science Edit-a-Thon!

Who should come? You should. Really.
	She Blinded Me with Science: Smithsonian Women in Science Edit-a-Thon will be held on Friday, March 30, 2012 at the Smithsonian Archives in Washington, D.C. This edit-a-thon will focus on improving and writing Wikipedia content about women from the Smithsonian who contributed to the sciences. It will be followed by a happy hour meetup! We look forward to seeing you there!

Sarah (talk) 22:42, 7 March 2012 (UTC)