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Persian Gulf

I see you on Persian Gulf's talk page, so I thought I'd bug you. I've found a user changing "Persian Gulf" to the "Arabian Gulf". What is the policy on this? Bgwhite (talk) 22:26, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Your link was to User:Kamran the Great. That user changes it in the opposite direction, i.e. "Arabian Gulf" to "Persian Gulf". Generally, that's per reliable sources and common usage as described in Persian Gulf naming dispute. DeCausa (talk) 22:54, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I meant "Arabian Gulf" to "Persian Gulf". Thank you for the reply and now I know. Bgwhite (talk) 22:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz

Hi DeCausa, I noticed you have done a lot of work on the Abd al-Aziz ibn Baz article lately. Now I wonder if you could assist in cleaning the Wikiquote article here?

What is needed is that sources are added correctly. The current article for example does mention "Mawaaqif madhee.ah fee hayaat al-Imaam 'Abdul-'Azeez Ibn Baaz - Page 196". The only conformation I can find on the web is this website which content is copied about 95%, which is not allowed. So if no other sources can be found, I guess we should delete the whole article, which would be a shame. Do you see a solution here? -- Mdd (talk) 02:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't think I can help. I've never worked on Wikiquote and so I'm unfamiliar with the policies there. Also, I'm no expert on Bin baz primary sources/translations. You might try User:Wiqi55 - he seems to be familiar these. DeCausa (talk) 08:11, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Regarding Prophecy of the Popes/Pope Francis

I started a talk section relating to TRGUY's repeated changes to Prophecy of the Popes - thought I'd mention it as you just reverted his last change. Link is [[1]]Blelbach (talk) 07:15, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

I've reported him to WP:AN3. DeCausa (talk) 07:25, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Seems prudent. Thanks! Blelbach (talk) 07:37, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Ghulat category

There is a discussion started on the Alawite talk page. You can weigh in there on your revert. Alatari (talk) 22:16, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Prophecy of the Popes....

...I have (fully) protected again; the next step should probably be WP:DRN. Thanks for the heads-up. Lectonar (talk) 16:00, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm not sure how DRN would work here as it's not as though it's one "theory" in dispute. It's pretty much one theory per editor! DeCausa (talk) 16:03, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

I agree, but that is kind of the best we got; perhaps multiple WP:third opinions....All this reminds me of Erich von Däniken, in a way. Lectonar (talk) 16:11, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Pallottine Martyrs

Disagree on value of the events now twice deleted from article. Controversial as these events were at the time, Pope Francis considers them of great spiritual value since he approved the promotio of their process towards beatification. Pls reconsider your brutal approach to redacting material that is not just 'material'.MrsKrishan (talk) 16:58, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

His approval of their beatification is already in the article in a different section. The text you want to add in is general information about the murders that has nothing to do with Francis. Why don't you write a separate article about them, if that's what you are interested in? DeCausa (talk) 17:05, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

No need to be condescending when you're incorrect - there is a separate page already on the massacre (and image in wikicommons) and I linked to it but you deleted the link in deleting the subsegment. Have asked user (User:Bmclaughlin9) to conciliate if possible otherwise may have to resort to WP:DRNMrsKrishan (talk) 17:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

That's what the article talk page is for. If you gain consensus support for your edit, then it will go in per WP:CONSENSUS. DeCausa (talk) 17:30, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm rather befuddled by this focus on 'material facts' that supposedly must be "telling us something about Francis" as if events in his life were just political or historical coincidences, when quite obviously they are not, they are of immense spiritual value, a POV that belongs in an article on a spirital personage elevated to the highest office. In a Catholic understanding, which I can't assume (User:Bmclaughlin9) or (talk) share, Pope Francis has the power of the keys, to elevate these murder victims to saints or lock them out as one of a number of usual victims of the tyranny of relativism/dictatorship of ideology such as aborted babies etc.). Will attempt a third undo/modification, then may have to seek WP:DRN to open up the parsing of what "value" means to other religiously-minded editorsMrsKrishan (talk) 17:43, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

If you do you'll be heading into edit-warring. If you are "befuddled by this focus on 'material facts' that supposedly must be "telling us something about Francis"" then it sounds like you shouldn't be editing Wikipedia because that's what goes on here. It also sounds like you have a religious POV to push. You need to cut that out if you want to edit Wikipedia. That's not what it's here for. Btw, I see that User:Bmclaughlin9 has posted his agreement with my deletion on the talk page. DeCausa (talk) 17:52, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

I said religiously-minded -- that's an intellectual category shared by many here on Wikipedia (see articles on Islam, Hinduism et al) -- which in your subjective opinion is of no value (thankfully you don't have the power of the keys to exclude all the religiously-minded material from Wikipedia) and sorry but your insults don't impress me, you sound like you're a bully "it sounds like you shouldn't be editing Wikipedia" (have been threatened with banishment before in 7 years of contributing so I know what it sounds like, and it doesn't intimidate me at all) and you're not the only tyrannt of their own relative opinion I've encountered here, I'm not backing down on the validity of the martyrdom material. Will concede it may be rather inelegantly expressed, but that seems to be the case elsewhere in the article and those segments still stand, so style isn't what you're taking issue with, its the content you don't like.MrsKrishan (talk) 18:17, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

What I and others have issue with is that it is off-topic. DeCausa (talk) 21:24, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Promised tweaks

Dear sir, it has come to my attention that you gave a verbal agreement for a series of tweaks on Talk:Salafi; to date, said tweaks have not been delivered. I'm sure that the gravity of such a situation is apparent to you and that the promised tweaks will soon arrive. Thank you. MezzoMezzo (talk) 11:38, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

The only tweaks I remember are these. They're now in the article. Were there others? To be honest I've slightly lost track were that article's got to. DeCausa (talk) 16:17, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

It appears I've lost track too, let me double check and continue on the article's talk page. MezzoMezzo (talk) 17:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Strange

Remember this discussion? Take a look at this and this. I can barely follow what she's saying except for the insulting parts. Your read on her was probably correct, although, frankly, I'm not sure what to do about it, at least at this point.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:25, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

Yes, they're along similar lines to what I've seen (including on this talk page). One of the reasons I didn't pursue it before was that there have only been 1300 edits since 2007. Given that rate, the slight disruptive effect didn't seem worth the hassle. Don't know if that's the right way of looking at it though! I suspect the problem is that warnings/coaching/trying to get them to have a better understanding of WP policies etc just aren't going to work here. DeCausa (talk) 08:24, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

However, they do seem to be stepping up their activity. I just had a look at their last edit. Leaving aside the mis-use/non-use of sources, it's an "interesting" addition to that article. I'd revert - but I'm never too sure in this sort of situation of WP:HOUND. DeCausa (talk) 12:07, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

I wouldn't worry about HOUND. As long as you're comfortable that the edit should be reverted, you should do so. I know nothing about the material, but the paragraph she added sounds preposterous to me, and the sources don't appear to support any of what she says. What does this have to do with the Virgin Mary and the Immaculate Conception? There is a passing mention of a "Virgin figure" in the first source, but the paragraph goes on and on about, well, I'm not sure what. And the second source doesn't even mention the Bavarian flag. Some sort of odd, attenuated synthesis on her part maybe.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:10, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

I've reverted. The contribs are generally in this preposterous vein. Take a look at the article for the talk page you linked to. It's about a specific 18th century German painting and the user's been trying to turn it into a general spiritual essay on the underlying religious subject and the art history connected with that subject, with edits like this. DeCausa (talk) 09:39, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.

This message is being sent to you let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding a content dispute discussion you may have participated in. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult for editors. You do not need to participate however, you are invited to help find a resolution. The discussion is about the topic Talk:Pope Francis. Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you! — TransporterMan (TALK) 17:03, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, DeCausa. You have new messages at Talk:Byzantine Empire.
Message added 13:33, 8 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

 —Sowlos  13:33, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

In case you already took the page off your watch-list, it doesn't seem to have exploded. In a fit of mad optimism, I even created Talk:Byzantine Empire#Rewriting the lead. If you're feeling up to it, I'd be interested in your input.  —Sowlos  23:11, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Roman emperor

Thank you for reverting my recent edit to the article Roman emperor. I recognised the remark in the article as rather remarkable, so I felt the need to reword it. But really, my addition should have been reliable. JIP | Talk 18:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

… for not abandoning Talk:Byzantine Empire. Your input was very helpful.  —Sowlos  10:58, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Revelation

I'm just wondering why my contributions keep getting deleted in the Revelation page under the Seventh-day Adventist interpretation.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Boko9223 (talk • contribs)

Replied on your user talk page. DeCausa (talk) 10:52, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Byzantine Empire#"Continuation"

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Byzantine Empire#"Continuation".
DIREKTOR (talk · contribs) has proposed a modification to intro sentence for Byzantine Empire (from: "The Byzantine Empire was the predominantly Greek-speaking continuation of the Roman Empire during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages." → "The Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages"). As you participated in the revising the lead, you may be interested to weigh in.  —Sowlos  22:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Why Undo?

You have recently reverted my changes to Saudi Arabia. Can you, please, explain the reason for doing so? --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 18:18, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

Apologies, my mistake. There's a long running attempt to change "Persian Gulf" to "Arabian Gulf", and this somehow got confused with that. I didn't check closely enough what you did. DeCausa (talk) 20:47, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

Apology accepted! --Wahj-asSaif (talk) 01:50, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Constantinople

Hello DeCausa: I have proposed, and provisionally implemented, a way to handle nomenclature on Fall of Constantinople. Let us know your thoughts on the talk page there. Thank you (and my apologies for the ancient ditty linked in the title here, which I cannot seem to get out of my mind when editing this article). Kablammo (talk) 19:16, 30 May 2013 (UTC)