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Notice Coming here to ask why I deleted your article? Read this page first...

If that doesn't help, read these FAQs.

1. Why did you delete my page when I hadn't finished writing it?

Answer: Don't create new articles unless you are sure they meet wikipedia's criteria, particularly notability and verifiability. If you want to practice, there is the sandbox facility and Wikipedia:Articles for creation where you can get a second opinion from a more experienced contributor. And if you really can't help yourself, use {{underconstruction}} so other people will know you are still working on it.

2. Why did you delete my page for advertising? I wasn't trying to advertise!

Answer: Read Wikipedia:NPOV for guidance on how to word an article so that it doesn't sound like an advertisement.

3. Why did you delete my page for advertising? It was about a non-profit organisation!

Answer: Non-profit organisations advertise all the time - it's still promotion and the rule applies to them just as it does to commercial bodies. See no 2 above.

4. Why did you delete my article without warning?

Answer: Because you are not entitled to a warning if you don't follow the guidelines. See no 1 above.

5. Why didn't you do a google search and find references for my article and put them in for me instead of just deleting it?

Answer: Because I don't have time to do the boring bits for you. I have enough boring bits of my own to work on, thank you.

And please SIGN YOUR POSTS, otherwise I don't know who is asking me the question!

Cautionary reading[edit]

I would like all my readers, both regular and irregular, to note the content of these three sub-sections. This is the calibre of comment you can expect to find on your talk page if you become an administrator and try to fulfil your duties conscientiously. Miraculously, none of those who have contributed to this section are administrators themselves, even though they clearly have superior skills that would make them far better at the job than any existing admin. Between them, they have amassed the impressive total of 18,460 article edits – in one case, a staggering 334! Sadly, their efforts have remained unappreciated by the community as a whole and they have been victimised by having some of their accomplished work deleted for mere failure to comply with the inclusion criteria. The world is a cruel place.

BeerXML deletion[edit]

I've already been through this with another deleter. BeerXML is not a product it is a data interchange format, and is a subset of XML. If you don't know what that means then you should not delete it. You are quite simply factually wrong. I will put the page back up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PrivateWiddle (talkcontribs) 16:16, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

  • I have to agree with PrivateWiddle, you apparently don't have a good grasp on technology and probably shouldn't be commenting on those articles. It also appears that you have a personal issue with PrivateWiddle. Perhaps you should refrain from commenting on his articles as well. Ucanlookitup (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
And you're an administrator? And you don't understand WP:BEFORE? Shameful. Are you willing to stand for recall?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Ę=== Wrongful deletion of BeerXML rejected ===

If you have come here to find out why your article has been deleted then take heart from BeerXML

Despite a concerted campaign of tagging User_talk:PrivateWiddle, outrageous accusations of sexism Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/PrivateWiddle#Views a failed AFD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/BeerXML, attempts to use admin status to silence oppostion and wilful misreading of the guidelines; this user has failed to get away with deleting an article just because they really want to.

Don't allow yourself to be bullied and be aware that this user has a henchperson that they call in, particularly if you are on your own. Expect heavy templating of your user page, accusations of offensiveness if you disagree with them and an RFC on a trumped up charge if they feel they are losing.

Stick to WP policy, get other users involved and don't be intimidated. I remain Devils In Skirts! (talk) 00:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Comment: Deb is an excellent editor and administrator here; one of the good people who stands up against the tide of crap and chaos that always threatens to engulf the encyclopaedia. She may or may not have been in error about the article and your username/sig; if she was, then it's part of a rather small error count against a vast amount of good that she does here. On the other hand, your ungracious crowing above presumably makes you feel good, but does exactly what to help the encyclopaedia? Nothing, I fear - it comes across as snotty and triumphalist; the mark of an editor to avoid. A more mature response would have retained your dignity very much better. DBaK (talk) 10:28, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Additional Comment: We all make mistakes, I'll grant you that. But Deb has doubled down on her's. She has tried to intimated editors that have disagreed with her. And, at a last resort, she has played the gender card. I do not mean to negate the positive that she has done, but that doesn't mean she gets a free pass on the mistakes. She should simply admit her mistake and grow from it. Ucanlookitup (talk) 02:34, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Interesting comment (well, actually, not very interesting but I don't like to be rude). You have a very hazy view of exactly what you think my "mistake" is. It can't be the original deletion on the grounds of promotional wording, because no one disputed that. It can't be the fact that I voted in the deletion debate - everyone is allowed to do that. So what it boils down to is the fact that I found another contributor's signature to be offensive. And that's just a matter of opinion. The fact that a lot of male contributors couldn't see the reason why a female contributor would object to the signature does not make it a "mistake" on my part, although I was always going to be banging my head against a brick wall bringing it to Rfc. So U can keep Ur opinions to Urself. Deb (talk) 09:44, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Your rfc accusation of sexism against me[edit]

I take the accusation of sexism from you extremely seriously. You have defamed me publicly and I am considering my options on how to respond to this appalling, baseless, slur. I would like to give you the opportunity to retract this accusation and apologise. If not then we will find ourselves taking the matter forward for resolution.

It would have been useful had you looked up the reference at Carry On Up The Khyber before launching a complaint against me for sexism. Specifically, even five seconds reading Carry_On..._Up_the_Khyber#The_regiment

Libelling me as a sexist is a rather extreme response to not getting your way in the debate at BeerXML AfD and if you had read the Wikipedia page on the film, you might have spared yourself the indignity of being hauled over the coals by those who responded to your rfc against me.

The idea that my username or signature is somehow directed against you personally is risible and speaks volumes. Be assured that I will not be changing anything.

As far as the BeerXML debacle is concerned, I think your time might be well spent responding to all the keeps on its AfD page (there's also one on the talk page). At the moment yourself and the seconder of your complaint against me are the only people who have a problem with the article, even though you are not very clear on what the problem is.

If I could offer you one piece of advice, it would be to address the points made by those users by making reasonable points in return that convince them that you are correct. This, I have found, seems to work better than hectoring, personal abuse, templating and launching rfcs against everyone who does not agree with you.

I note that you have managed to get admin status and use the authority that comes with it as a weapon against people who disagree with you. To save you a lot of typing, I'm really not in the slightest intimidated by that. Don't forget that authority comes with responsibility. If you continue to misuse your position as admin to persue personal vendettas against people who challenge your decisions, you may find that it is removed from you.

Devils In Skirts! (talk) 14:15, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Your allegation of calculated method of insulting female wikipedians is indeed extremely serious. Also I don't think I (or any other random editor) have any chance of guessing your gender if I haven't noticed the RFC. Solomon7968 08:23, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
P.S. You first threatened PrivateWiddle about opening a RFC about his signature at 10:23, 15 February 2014 without bothering to ask him what the intended meaning of the signature is. Perhaps he would have changed it if asked politely? Assumption of bad faith from the very first indeed constitutes a personal attack and you should apologise unless there is good reason to believe PrivateWiddle is indeed sexist. Unfounded accusations of sexism is no better than real sexism. Solomon7968 08:37, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Issues with CMDportal Page[edit]

  • Advertisement, citations and general notability of CMDportal page

Hi Deb, thanks for your comments on the CMDportal page that I created. Sorry for using your talk page about your comments on a wikipedia page. I had a look at the links you mentioned above for further information on neutrality and POV and unfortunately, I still don't understand what the problem with this page is. As far as I can see, there is no advertisement and everything is properly sourced, without a single source from the company's website, thus avoiding conflict of interest or advertisement and clearly showing relevance of its activities. If you could perhaps pinpoint some of the issues, that would be very much appreciated. Thanks for your time. Best regards, Manuel0506 (talk) 15:27, 27 January 2014 (GMT)

Did you think Manuel0506s answer was Insufficient? Am I wrong in believing he answered in an hour? Fischblubl (talk) 11:50, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes. And no. Deb (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Would you care to elaborate how it was insufficient? Fischblubl (talk) 12:41, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I don't see any reason to discuss this with a new contributor. The appropriate place for you to ask these questions will be at the deletion review, if and when he submits it. Deb (talk) 12:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry but am I understanding Correctly that my Experience concerning Wikipedia is a Guideline for you to not Discuss this? I think that Manuel0506s Arguments were fully sufficient. I would like you to explain why you don't. Do I need to be a long-established contributor to do that? Fischblubl (talk) 12:58, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
You're on the verge of badgering conduct that is discouraged here. Please desist. Deb (talk) 13:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I am very sorry if this hurt your feelings in any way, and my contribution was not Intended to do so. However I see "I don't see any reason to discuss this with a new contributor." may, even if as I am sure not to be intended "discourage them from editing entirely"[1]. But I apologize again if you have found any of my posts badgering you in any kind of way and I hope that you forgive me if that was the case. Fischblubl (talk) 13:14, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
I would also like to give you some recommended Reading(look at "what Harassment is not") concerning the definition of harassment according to the page linked above. I realize that it may not be the same to your definition of harassment, but you may find it interesting. Fischblubl (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Nice Work...
Muhammad Aftab 14:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Michael the Maven[edit]

You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been rather rudely requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL#Proposed deletion I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 10:14, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Deb is reviewing pages with head closed[edit]

I see you deleted a page for a bakery that i made which i don't own/am affiliated with. It would be better if you cross verify before acting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rico25new (talkcontribs) 12:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

@Rico25new, maybe you want to read the linked page and the FAQ at the top of this talk page before making vague and offensive accusations. ~ twsx | talkcont | ~ 12:53, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

You are a dumbass ;/ Even the stupidest of person would care enough to learn before acting. I will bring that page back when I figure out howto — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rico25new (talkcontribs) 12:58, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

@Rico25new: There's no reason to attack me, my friend. I can assure you that Deb was deleting your page not only in good faith, but also in full accordance to Wikipedia's deletion policy. Articles on Wikipedia must adhere to a couple of policies and guidelines. The link and FAQ on the top of this page, which I've already mentioned in my first post, will give you an idea what they are. ~ twsx | talkcont | ~ 13:02, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Blue Giraffe[edit]

Dear Deb. I did not fully understand why the article about Blue Giraffe was deleted. The company is a split-off of Zylom and is continuing its game studio activities. Other studio articles seem to be relevant, unfortunatly Blue Giraffe isn't. Could you clarify to why specifically this one was deleted or what needs to be added in order to comply? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartjezzz (talkcontribs) 16:28, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Ninetails =[edit]

Ninetails are a significant band, with substantial buzz around them at the moment, being written about positivley by The Quietus, The Independent, Drowned in Sound and more ( and have recently signed with Talk Talk's manager. I would appreciate your help in the creation of the page for the band, as I do believe they meet WP:Notability and can provide references to support so

Thank you in advance Deb Betacrizzle (talk) 14:22, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Mid-Bay Bridge[edit]

I think you're supposed to do the move (using the reason in the {{db-move}} template) so it doesn't end up as a redlink. No worries - I've done it. --NE2 03:24, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I just assumed someone was watching it. Deb (talk) 12:43, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Danielle Tunstall[edit]

Hi Deb. You deleted a page I was just starting to work on about a photographer who strangely has not yet been written about here on Wikipedia. I would like to know under which section of the criteria for speedy deletion you based your decision on? The notability component of the page is without doubt there, her work has been featured and discussed in publications across the world so finding reliable third party sources wouldn't be a problem. She has also for instance photographed several celebrities from the United Kingdom, and the way in which her compositions are done are very unique and engrossing to her large following. She now has almost a 100,000 likes on Facebook for instance. I am assuming it was under A7 in which you based your decision? Thank you for your time. Kind regards, jokern102 (talk) 00:32, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


Hi Deb, you might want to keep an eye on this user. See the history of his talk page. jni (delete)...just not interested 20:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Jni: Nothing left to watch. After their removal of your comment yet again, I decided that they were not doing anything productive and indef'ed them. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:23, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Digi-Capital new page[edit]

I would like to submit an article for Digi-Capital (see below), and saw that you deleted a previous one. Below is the text and references I would like to submit, please let me know if there are any issues with it, otherwise I will go ahead and post it next week.

Digi-Capital [1] is an investment bank for games, mobile apps, digital/media services and tech/telecoms across America, Asia (China, Japan, South Korea) and Europe.

Digi-Capital delivers sell-side M&A, buy-side M&A, fundraising, investment, Board advisory, strategic consulting and industry analysis services [2].

Digi-Capital publishes its Global Games Investment Review [3], including economics, industry dynamics, trends, M&A and investment transactions, and public company comparables/indices for mobile/tablet, social/casual, MMO, console/PC, tech/gamification and games advertising sectors. The Review is published annually, with quarterly updates. In the 2014 Review, Digi-Capital forecast that “Mobile games could drive total games software industry revenue to ~$100B by 2017. The mobile and online games sectors combined could grow to ~$60B revenue (23.6% CAGR 11-17F), and take 60% games software market share by 2017.” {ref 1 below}

Digi-Capital is used as a reference source by financial {ref 2 below} and industry {ref 3 below} media for data and analysis on games and mobile apps markets.

Ref 1: [4]

Ref 2:

Ref 3: [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11] IzzyGregson (talk) 10:53, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for these edits:. But do you think this might be a block evasion? Looks a bit of a coincidence. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Good call. Generally I'm not in favour of blank/redirect of any sourced article but this wasn't sourced. Seems the other albums by same editor (or 2 editors) are similar. Btw - are you an admin? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:33, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. Could I btw encourage adding an admin category to user page, while optional I believe it is helpful for Users seeking helpful admins. No need to reply to this either way. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:38, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Hey, that suggests you think I belong to the "helpful" category! What a compliment! :-) Deb (talk) 08:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

About Philips Innovation Campus[edit]

Deb, I think I re-written the article enough to meet WP:A7 and to avoid WP:G11 and WP:G12. I make it a personal policy not to use rev-del without another user requesting it, so I'm not going to do it here. Your thoughts? Peter in Australia aka --Shirt58 (talk) 12:51, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

"Perhaps even the book to restore the serious reading public's faith in the contemporary novel... You should make time for it. It will keep you company for the rest of your life." (Daniel Johnson, The Times). --Shirt58 (talk) 13:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

And BTW-[edit]

Hope you are well! Would you care to glance at the discussion on my TP just above your RfC post? The user keeps deleting stuff from another user's page. Quite obsessive behaviour to say the least... thank you! Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 10:58, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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User:KIBI NATHAN[edit]

Hi, you moved this to user space, but "KIBI NATHAN" is not an existing user. The article was in fact created by User:KIIBI NATHAN (took me a while to actually see the difference... :-), but I cannot move this page there. Perhaps you can have a look at it. Thanks. --Randykitty (talk) 18:32, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Easy Taxi[edit]

Information icon Hi mister Deb! It's Paul.malicki here. I just wanted to let you know that I fixed all suggested items related to the article you removed. Please take a look at it. Looking forward to your feedback. —Preceding undated comment added 13:02, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi again. I added quotations and fixed the language errors. Please feel free to take a look at it at your convenient time. I hope it's now polished. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul.malicki (talkcontribs) 01:17, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Deb! May I follow up on this thread, please? Did you have a chance to check the updated version? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul.malicki (talkcontribs) 00:06, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

As per you request, I moved the article there for the review. Is there anything else I can do to speed up the process? Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul.malicki (talkcontribs) 12:18, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Which accomplished work is that, Deb?[edit]

You say about me: "they have been victimised by having some of their accomplished work deleted for mere failure to comply with the inclusion criteria." Which work is that, Deb? And you never explained your multiple accusations of canvassing against me? So yes, you're claiming I'm motivated because I've "been victimised" by having some of my "accomplished work deleted" and that I am guilty of canvassing. What are you talking about, exactly? Please be specific.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 15:05, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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Amazon Instant Video UK[edit]

Hi this article I just created will be expanded over time and has been renamed from lovefilm to Amazon Instant Video UK Paladox2017 (talk) 16:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Joy Mallari[edit]

What, wait, how on earth is that written like an ad? It's a pretty standard bio for a prominent contemporary Philippine visual artist/painter. There's an entire section on major works that I haven't had the time to write yet, but I don't think that'd change this article significantly. I mean, as far as I can tell, this is better written than most articles about National Artists of the Philippines. I'm starting on a series for prominent contemporary Philippine Artists, so I would really like more detailed input than just that tophat. Also, I have nothing to disclose: no relationship with Mallari, no income from the Philippine art sector. If anything, I'm a museumgoing newbie who's writing wikis in order to learn more. Would appreciate more detailed input. Thank you. - Alternativity (talk) 12:42, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Request to Userfy the Page[edit]

Hello, I am a student and I have a problem. I built a page named BioScrip but it has been deleted for it looks like an advertisement, I am very sorry for that, I want to modify it to meet the standard of Wiki, would you please userfy the page for me? Thank you very much! ReganChai (talk) 03:24, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

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Discussion: Two pieces for wind quintet (Ropartz)[edit]


Noticed that you added and then an IP user removed a noteability tag on this article, I've restored it and consolidated it with a "Multiple issues" template.

I would just like to begin by stating that when I write articles like this (eg. Based off an ISMLP score, for a composer who has a biographical article on wikipedia.) I am doing so in the hope that someone else will join me in the research/improvement of the article after it is created.

I am a firm opponent of what is sometimes referred to as the "Great Composer Racket" and also understand that simply because information is not online (or at least not findable by Google or other search engine) does not mean that the information does not exist. I also firmly believe that dialog between Wikipedia editors is the best way to do things, hence this message.

I invite you to continue the discussion on the articles talk page.

Graham1973 (talk) 15:18, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Black Adder I ---> Princes in the Tower and the ePetition for DNA testing[edit]

Was watching pilot of The Black Adder, The Foretelling, and bounced around refreshing my memory of the Battle of Bosworth and who the heck is Brian Blessed playing (King Richard IV of England who???) but finally got interested in why they haven't DNA tested the possible skeletons of the boys bodies. Looks like the e-petition at Her Majesties Government website has been closed without reason 9 months before the 12/02/2014 expected closing date. Sent an email response asking and will see what they say. It's a shame but this article in The Guardian explains the motivations of her majesty and the church. Alatari (talk) 22:48, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I know Blackadder is fiction. Clearly I'm talking about the real boys who were murdered in their youth... Alatari (talk) 17:51, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
As I recall, I was just explaining why King Richard IV appeared. Deb (talk) 03:54, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for page protection[edit]

Hi Deb. I'd be grateful if you could protect the article for A Touch of Sin. There's currently an IP editor adding unsourced information. Thank you. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:06, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Deb. I would do, but they keep moving from one IP address to another! Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:47, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Source:
子川 (2013-10-07). "「專訪賈樟柯:電影《天注定》通過虛構達到真實」". BBC中文網 (in Chinese) (BBC). "(traditional Chinese)(simplified Chinese)" 

Moved ... without leaving a redirect[edit]

Hi Deb. Is a move without leaving a redirect like the one you performed here restricted to users flying the suppressredirect flag (WP:RIGHTS) from their mizzen? Best, Sam Sailor Sing 12:22, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Source, BBC news , A Touch of Sin[edit]

子川 (2013-10-07). "「專訪賈樟柯:電影《天注定》通過虛構達到真實」". BBC中文網 (in Chinese) (BBC). "(traditional Chinese)(simplified Chinese)" 

Deletion of Apply AS[edit]

Deb, with respect I have been editing merrily on WP for years and I've never experienced any user so trigger-happy in their deletion of a newly created article. You deleted the stub I created literally seconds after I created it. I'm very aware of the deletion policies, but I think this behaviour fails to live up to WP:AGF. Looking at your disclaimer at the top of this page it seems like you have been criticised for this on more than one occasion and perhaps you need to think about moderating your own behaviour before you try to dictate how other people work on WP. It is unreasonable to insist that an article is fully verified and notability established from the very first edit. I will be recreating this page (adhering to you frankly ridiculous expectations) at some point in the future, but if really expect your to assume good faith for longer than half a minute next time.

Famousdog (c) 08:52, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Yes, the article failed the inclusion criteria because I had literally just created it and was about to add the necessary citations regarding verification/notability. Sadly, you did not give me that opportunity. You say in your response that you are "disappointed that (I) expected it to remain there", but I simply expected it to remain there for at least a couple minutes while I added some sources. That doesn't seem too much to ask, does it? I think your attitude is a little gung-ho for somebody with admin responsibilties and I'd like you simply to consider checking timestamps for article creation next time before you go all delete-happy. (PS the legal name of the company is Apply AS, which I chose as the article title because 'apply' is a verb and therefore too generic and Apply is already taken for an article on the programming function)
Famousdog (c) 09:58, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

Owen Glendower[edit]

I reverted your recent edit because the attribution is incorrect. The Powys Society webpage is probably your source, but I carefully checked the article. I think that the phrase may be from a publisher's blurb, and it seems highly likely that it is by Kavanagh (but that's speculation). Rwood128 (talk) 11:28, 26 March 2014 (UTC).

I carefully checked the full (brief) article and the quotation on the Powys Society web page isn't there. The cover of the Duckworth edition may be the true source, as the original link connected with Duckworth. I'll contact the Powys Society. Rwood128 (talk) 18:00, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Sorry but the above message states that I read the "full article", which surely indicates that I had accesses to the article! Yes I have a copy of Newsletter no.70 and I checked it more than once! Furthermore I have reported the error to the Powys's Society's web master. I would have thought that the web site was a poor source (incomplete), especially as there are better ones available. I'll of course restore the quotation if the Powys Society responds with the correct information. But this is surely not of major importance? Rwood128 (talk) 11:12, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Re your last message, I'm not a member of the Hardy Society, though I have tried to improve the Wikipedia Hardy article. Rwood128 (talk) 12:31, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind comments. Yes, I'm nervous re original research. I plan to add further discussion at some point. I'm glad that you also plan to work on this and that you will also be keeping an eye on things. Rwood128 (talk) 11:47, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Why my WikiPage for GuruAid has been deleted?[edit]

ok but why is my wikipage deleted? did i do something wrong? i dont understand :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micheal28 (talkcontribs) 15:22, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

hello deb, why did you deleted my wikipage of Cabo Love? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micheal28 (talkcontribs) 15:06, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Deb,

I had created WikiPage for GuruAid on 20th March 2014, which was deleted due to promotional content.

Kindly let me know which part of the content sounds like advertising, so that I can make the changes and republish the same.


Ravi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raviiarora2014 (talkcontribs) 13:20, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Date linking and tony1[edit]

tony1 is at it again removing date linking from "INTRINSICALLY DATE-ORIENTED" articles as in here 2014 in Canada - please help-- (talk) 08:23, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

USER Denisarona is reverting the reverts that i have made to tony1's date linking removals-- (talk) 08:29, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
as in here

-- (talk) 08:33, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Destructive and stupid. Too silly to bother with, and reintroduced other damage to the articles. It's really disgusting. Very fitting to come here to the Queen of Silly Links. Tony (talk) 08:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
Tsk, tsk, remember your wikiquette. Deb (talk) 08:41, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Note that this is a world edit war: it's also going on at the articles on 2014 in Moldova, Romania, Spain, etc. (And 1892 in Brazil, great.) The history of 2014 in Canada is a sight to see, with all the edit-warring, and especially the appeal-to-authority edit summaries of the IP when reverting Tony and Denisarona: "Administrator Deb says you are to be reverted without comment", etc. (Isn't that a comment, btw?) I have seen plenty of examples of new users assuming that administrators are God, perhaps even that there is only one Administrator and what the divine Admin says goes, but in experienced users, as the IP is, that notion has usually worn off against the edges of reality. Anyway, as far as I can see, Deb hasn't said that, at least not this time round. Also, since she is editing this and similar articles, taking sides with the IP, she is of course not going to exert any admin authority in the context.
I notice the IP was blocked in December for edit warring on 2014 in the United States (alternating between their IP and their account S-d n r), where they had expressed the same religious faith in admin authority.[12] (Another charming edit summary here.) This is a static IP and very belligerent. I'll monitor it too.
I won't touch 2014 in Canada (let alone the other lot), as I want to remain uninvolved in case admin action is needed — also because I'm reluctant to get into MOS quarrels in any capacity, they depress me — but I want to see much more discussion on talk. At least, if it has been thoroughly discussed before, please put a link to the archive. Deb, for the record, I disagree with your recent revert after so much edit warring by different hands, especially with the lack of edit summary and/or talkpage note, and also with your similar edits to other articles today and yesterday. I don't see much support for them in MOS. Bishonen | talk 10:23, 28 March 2014 (UTC).
I do recognise your concern, but, frankly, this debate - if you can call it that - has been going on for literally years. It centres on the fact that User:Tony1 and several others refuse to accept that Year in Topic articles are Year articles. You are quite correct, I didn't say what the anon claims I said. However, I think it is quite reasonable for any user to revert changes that are made by what are essentially bots, based on a peculiar interpretation of policy that isn't supported by the Years project or the wording of the Manual of Style. Deb (talk) 11:32, 28 March 2014 (UTC)


Hi Deb, thank you for your recent post regarding advertising on my recently created page. I have read the guidance and amended accordingly. Hope it is now acceptable. Thanks Hendy275 (talk) 14:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

YRViceChair & Buncombe County Young Republicans[edit]

Deb, I don't quite understand how the organization that I made a page about does not meet the requirements for verification and notability. The page wasn't well sourced, I admit, but the group website should prove that we do exist and we do significant work in both a political and community service aspects in our county. What are we missing to meet your standard of verification? Help! Thank you.

Ohconfucius has a perosnal vendete started against me and has begun to vandalize anything i have worked on[edit]

Ohconfucius has a perosnal vendete (over his inccorect use of date linking) started against me and has begun to vandalize anything i have worked on as in here (talk) 21:06, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

i cannot just ignore him he has begun this Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deaths of Lawrence and Glenna Shapiro-- (talk) 21:12, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your RfA support[edit]

Hi there, a bit of a form letter from me, Cyphoidbomb, but I wanted to drop you a line and thank you for your support at my recent RfA. Although I was not successful, I certainly learned quite a bit both about the RfA process and about how the community views my contributions. It was an eye-opener, to say the least. Thank you! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:55, 30 March 2014 (UTC)

Belated thanks[edit]

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I know this is late but I wanted to take a moment to thank you for your participation at my RfA. I was very inspired by the many that supported me and it’s that feeling of friendship and camaraderie that keeps me coming back to the project. So, thank you for your support and for your continued sense of fairness and compassion in all areas of WP. I look forward to the opportunity to work together in the days to come. Best wishes, -- KeithbobTalk 19:14, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no "like" button on wikipedia.Deb (talk) 14:44, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Metal-Pages Ltd[edit]

Hi Debs,

Thank you for your comment, however, I have verified sources to add to the page. I simply want to state that Metal-Pages is in fact a company, and outline what they do.

Below is my proposed text, with the links to add as reference.

'Metal-Pages Ltd is an independent provider of news, reports, benchmark pricing, and events to the rare earths, ferr-alloys and minor metals industry.

The company was founded in 2000 and is based in London, with offices in 5 continents.'

If this is still not acceptable as an article, could you please explain to me what I would need to add/remove/adjust to make this a valid article?

Kind regards, Minximoodle (talk) 12:02, 14 April 2014 (UTC)minximoodle


Hello Deb, please re-instate the DigitalOcean article I just wrote. I came to Wikipedia looking for unbiased information on DigitalOcean, a fairly significant service in my version of the world, and found that the article has been deleted twice. I'm sorry if you're unaware, but this company is on par with Amazon as a entrepreneurial resource. I specifically cited market-based criteria, like Netcraft, because the company is focused on markets. I note it is entirely comparable to other services, like Bluehost and Amazon AWS. Please undelete the article. Niels Olson (talk) 17:38, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

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some other converation[edit]

Hi Deb, i want to contribute adding articles of games published in the stores, making a litle review of what the games are and what cool things they have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evacolasso (talkcontribs) 17:43, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Ah yeah i forget, i found that there are similar articles like this:

Best! Evacolasso — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evacolasso (talkcontribs) 17:45, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
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